| Well... it has a point, though. |
| "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything." - Tyler Durden, Fight Club |
| Huh? I mean that said "philosophy" holds true most of the time. I don't really find Elfen Lied that 'philosophical' myself, though [on the other hand I'm not sure what the requirements are anyway; except addressing popular philosophic problems, that is]. |
| "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything." - Tyler Durden, Fight Club |
| Well, like I said in a previous post, english is not my birth language. I'll try my best. 1 - We should avoid strict definitions, in order to improve brainstorming. Strict definitions often leads to purely rethoric debates and other socratic-like methods based purely on structured logical reasoning. This opinion holds for (almost) every philosophical discussion (or we would end up like Kant said: debating is ultimately useless); 2 - Here I propose a conceptual difference between what is philosophical and what is psychological. Elfen Lied undoubtly have some good points to discuss/think about, but I felt that Anime's main line is feelings between Kouta and Nyu. Although I personally could think and cry for hours wondering about how that persona and their actions reached my own feelings and psyche, it's not a deep plot in a wide sense. Secondary themes like "humanity-inhumanity" are surely controversal, but maybe NOT ENOUGH to be interesting in a philosophical analysis 3 - BUT the arguments above are true for most Anime and themes that could be proposen subject for analysis and discussion. Don't know if I made my english clear: It's true that Elfen Lied is not "good enough", but, if so, we won't have many things besides Boogiepop, S.E. Lain and Ergo Proxy That's how I see this "is/ isn't" question. The particular subject in se is innocuous to me as I really prefer to discuss psychological/emotional content |
| There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary and those who don't Real men don't use Task Manager: they sudo kill -9 Computers are like air-conditioning: pretty much useless if you open Windows "I cannot refute you, Socrates." - said Agathon Symposium - Plato"Rather, dear Agathon, what you can't refute is the truth; for Socrates is easily refuted." |
| Okay, when I first read this topic's title I thought it was a joke, but now I see it's serious, so here are my thoughts: Elfen Lied shouldn't be added simply because if focuses more on explicit and utterly out of focus fan-service and random gore imagery than on developing any kind of further philosophical discussion. |
| 90% of Anime is shit, but then, 90% of everything is shit. |
| When people see Elfen lied they are too distracted by the gore and nudity to realize the true meaning of the anime/manga.The series wants to show how barbaric and intolerant humans can be for the ones different from them.The human nature is to expel everything they visually consider a threat without trying to understand and accept it.I think that Elfen lied has the full right to be in this philosophy related club so that people can understand its meaning.Last I want to apologize if I made some grammatical or punctual errors in my writing because English is not my native language. |
| Well, as for me, Elfen Lied tackles an important subject in Philosophy ~ Being Human. What is moral and what is not? What can we legitimately do to ourselves or to others? |
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