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07-10-09, 7:08 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ein's more skillful than Zwei! She can shoot for that far of direction!
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07-10-09, 10:20 AM

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You didn't wrote anything.
Well now we know that Ein is alive.

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07-10-09, 11:39 AM

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Blackbird said:
Well now we know that Ein is alive.


I think we always knew that would be the case... Never for a minute thought that she had died.
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07-10-09, 1:47 PM

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Quick spoiler summary:

o Reiji is shaken about Elen's appearance - he's still convinced to have killed her

o Godoh Daisuke is calling in some more yakuza mobsters to give him some muscle

o Claudia is still convinced that Wisemel is behind the assassinations and orders Reiji (who failed the protection mission) to come up with an approach to counter Wisemel's likely impending assassination attempt to screw up the entry of the Godoh Group in Inferno

o Cal continues to exhibit some amazing skills by tinkering around with the Steyr Aug she found in Reiji's apartment. Reiji decides to enlist her as assistant for the counter-sniper mission.

o During their scouting of the meeting location surroundings, Reiji purchases the pocket watch of doom for Cal, who is ecstatic about the gift. Hearing the familiar haunting tune as background music really makes me feel all nostalgic... and boy, did Noir steal it from PoI, too.

o Cal and Reiji believe they've found the most likely sniper spot and set themselves up as counter-sniper team. Godoh Group/Inferno negotiations start, Reiji is operating the rifle, Cal is lookout - and indeed, she manages to spot the attacking sniper

o Reiji is shaken whether or not the sniper might be Elen, so he can't get himself to fire blindly without identifying her/him. Therefore he purposely misses the first shot to force the enemy sniper out of hiding. It turns out to be Wisemel's right-hand goon, and they trade shots, resulting in a cheek-grazed Reiji and dead goon.

o Believing that the danger is averted, they relax - and another shot from a far far away range smashes through the glass of the negotiation room and pulverizes the head of a statue right beside Godoh Daisuke's head (who himself remains unharmed).

o The attacker used a fairly gigantic anti-tank rifle to snipe from over 1500 yards - and it turns out to be Elen, who signs off with a "Mission accomplished, Master". End of episode. But not of the scene, which will continue in episode 16.
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Blackbird said:
You didn't wrote anything.


Yeah, sorry that I didn't write anything.
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07-12-09, 5:47 AM

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It's getting more and more boring from episode to episode ('hello Noir'). Nothing spectacular you couldn't came up with.
 
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07-12-09, 6:05 AM

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I don't see the similarities to Noir at all anymore. Outside of the main characters being assassins. And the brass pocketwatch in this episode.
 
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07-12-09, 6:28 AM

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Meh episode, the series is slowing down bad. The only important development of this episode is that Ein/Elen is indeed alive and back to her old brainwashed self.
 
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07-12-09, 8:41 AM

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Cheesyhoboe said:
I don't see the similarities to Noir at all anymore.

Phantom just started boring me similar way Noir did (and same studio, director, etc analogy).
 
07-12-09, 9:00 AM

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Hmmm Elen should have just died back then, it's just totally illogical that she's alive and back, and it doesn't make the script progress at all. Except that Cal will one day confront her and Ryuji will have to choose between them, but we all knew it the moment the young girl appeared on screen and we all know how it will end if we have seen Noir/Madlax/Cazador/Avenger etc... And too bad the direction and animation are both going down too. Average episode.

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07-12-09, 9:08 AM

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It's kind of funny to see people make constant predictions about this anime which always turn out wrong, especially since I've already played the visual novel and already know everything that happens.
 
07-12-09, 9:16 AM

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Too much of the episode was really slow. I liked the end though, just when he thinks it is safe, the huge anti tank rifle fires, although kind of disappointing that she didn't actually kill someone (i guess she didn't need to though).

I still think cal is an extremely annoying character though.

Elen had about as much chance to live as Reiji if you think about it, probably more so. both got shot in the body, more or less. Reiji also fell in to the water which would decrease his chances. Elen was in the middle of a battlefield, but scythe master could have carried her off.

I do hope you're right cheesyhoboe, i do hope so.
 
07-12-09, 9:37 AM

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Well not bad but the pace of the series is now kind of slow. I would have preferred Elen to be dead though I didn't want her to become like Lira of Tytania with the main hero obsessing about her in every episode.
 
07-12-09, 9:45 AM

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J3T said:
Meh episode, the series is slowing down bad. The only important development of this episode is that Ein/Elen is indeed alive and back to her old brainwashed self.


I don't quite see the slowdown, particularly since the first chapter around Ein took much longer while having no more "action" at all.

Some more food for thoughts you missed to mention:

1) What was Wisemel's right hand man Randy Weber doing there, sniping at the meeting? Think about Wisemel's "che!" reaction, too.

2) Why is SM working for Shiga, and at the same time ordering Ein to put a bullet through the statue head next to Daisuke?
 
07-12-09, 9:55 AM

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my fanboy wants: more Elen please~.
 
07-12-09, 9:57 AM

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tsubasalover said:
Blackbird said:
You didn't wrote anything.


Yeah, sorry that I didn't write anything.


LOL XD

anyways looks like Eln IS ALIVE OMG !!! O.o
as expected.

Mentar said:

1) What was Wisemel's right hand man Randy Weber doing there, sniping at the meeting? Think about Wisemel's "che!" reaction, too.

Wisemel probably wanted his guy to kill the uh the Daisuke guy , to prevent Cludia from getting the support.

Mentar said:

2) Why is SM working for Shiga, and at the same time ordering Ein to put a bullet through the statue head next to Daisuke?


SM working for Shiga , not sure but I guess it's a way for SM to destroy Inferno. The reason why Ein shot the head of the statue was to show that she can easily have killed anyone in there, and bring fear into the conference braking the relationship between Inferno and the Japanese guys. The reason why Daisuke was not killed by Ein was cuz i guess Shiga is still loyal to Daisuke and doesnt want him dead, so i assume he requested SM to not kill him <_<
 
07-12-09, 10:29 AM

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is it just me or did elen make that shot through a building?
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07-12-09, 11:19 AM

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Nice one
i guess hitting the statue was just a show that they could have killed him, just to show them what they can do.
Looking at the muzzle and appaerance of the gun it looks like a barett sniper rifle but i'm no expert at this :D
At least Wisemel will get killed next apisode it's clear his right-hand was also conspiring against the Godoh group hence against Claudia


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07-12-09, 11:42 AM

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The preview has got me curious o___o
there was a screenshot of McGuire with blood on himself...WHO'S IS IT?!?! O__O


anyway...ep felt a little too much on the relaxing side a bit....but Reiji has convinced me that Cal IS some sort of genius..........though probably not with assassinations...

And Shiga is starting to REALLY annoy me D=

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07-12-09, 12:13 PM

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Hopefully Reiji will be able to compose himself now that he's basically confirmed that Elen is still alive.

That weapon looked like it weighs as much if not more than Elen.

Not finding Cal annoying whatsoever. She's proven to be quite skillful and sharp, yet her emotions seem pretty reasonable given her age and cirmcustances.
 
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