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04-13-07, 8:55 PM

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kumagorobunny said:
I loved this episode! Hehe... the foot massage scene was just so cute! Love the yaoi~

If that was yaoi, then I'm a fluffy plushie named Kon.......

04-13-07, 10:00 PM

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That scene wasn't "yaoi" but it was definitely fanservice to all the teenage yaoi fans who watch Death Note. It unimpressed me and kinda ruined the otherwise excellent episode.
Episode 25 would have been a great last episode, I'm not looking forward to the rest even though I know that I'll end up liking it no matter what.
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04-14-07, 3:39 AM

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Great episode! Kind of understood what was going to happen when they suddenly started to show L as a kid :/
04-14-07, 3:47 AM

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Ufozile said:
Great episode! Kind of understood what was going to happen when they suddenly started to show L as a kid :/

Same here. I just knew that finally, L would bite the dust. Great episode although it had it's share of weirdness. But again Light pwns all!
08-25-07, 9:47 PM

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Finally. It's been quite the mind game, hasn't it?

When Light killed Rem as well, it just reminded me how deep that hole of dark power has gotten to him. I'm guessing this is the last "really kickass" episode of DN, since i hear that Mello and Near aren't that great and it's really rushed. Kind of like the last 20 seconds of "What's Up People?"
08-26-07, 10:20 AM

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one of my fave episodes, without doubts. 1st half is ok, but second half is perfection.

masterpiece. ^^
01-30-08, 12:24 PM

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Light: Oh, my, we really should get out of these wet clothes!
L: Let me help you with that! Also, may I massage your foot?
Light: I thought you'd never ask!

kei-clone said:
really, killing Rem was unnecessary, that was just bad

Naw, man, technically, she killed herself.

01-31-08, 1:26 PM

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Omg, I mean I knew that in one episode L will die eventually, but... He was the greatest character in that story! How it can be still as interesting as it was after his death? ;< And then scene like 'well, we still have 2 of his kind! So you better watch out!' after L's death? It was really weird... Well, I still haven't watched DN to the end, but I doubt if it'll be the same without L...
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02-01-08, 12:15 PM

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foot massage was very weird indeed, but this episode is AWESOME!
02-21-08, 3:31 PM

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BloodyW said:
foot massage was very weird indeed, but this episode is AWESOME!

The foot massaging scene is a reference to the bible. Jesus washes his disciples' feet right before Judas betrays him.
03-23-08, 1:13 PM

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Awwwww... Dat was the saddest ep ever!!! i spent the whole time crying my eyes out!!!... i wasnt ready for him to die yet!!! i loved him to bits!!!
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03-27-08, 5:47 AM

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Meatguy said:
BloodyW said:
foot massage was very weird indeed, but this episode is AWESOME!

The foot massaging scene is a reference to the bible. Jesus washes his disciples' feet right before Judas betrays him.

Figured it had some meaning, it wasn't that hard to tell. Just by simply seeing L in a lower position under Light on the staircase kind of showed that Light had won.

Pretty epic episode. Definitely sad.
03-28-08, 7:20 AM

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I knew it was coming... But it still madE me and my friend cry like babies! T_T
AWSOME EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03-28-08, 5:25 PM

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Roketsu said:
Neverender said:
Roketsu said:
I'm thinking it relates to the whole 'god' complex Light has. Think of the story of Jesus washing the disciples feet for them.

This is the correct answer. I can't say I enjoyed that scene much though... Other than that, episode owned as usual.
Sweet, what do I win =&thorn;

John 13
Jesus Washes His Disciples' Feet
1) It was just before the Passover Feast. Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them the full extent of his love.[a]
2) The evening meal was being served, and the devil had already prompted Judas Iscariot, son of Simon, to betray Jesus. 3) Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; 4) so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5) After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples' feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.

6) He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, "Lord, are you going to wash my feet?"

7) Jesus replied, "You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand."

8) "No," said Peter, "you shall never wash my feet."
Jesus answered, "Unless I wash you, you have no part with me."

9) "Then, Lord," Simon Peter replied, "not just my feet but my hands and my head as well!"

10) Jesus answered, "A person who has had a bath needs only to wash his feet; his whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you." 11) For he knew who was going to betray him, and that was why he said not every one was clean.

12) When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. "Do you understand what I have done for you?" he asked them. 13) "You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14) Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another's feet. 15) I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16) I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17) Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

Jesus Predicts His Betrayal
18) "I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill the scripture: 'He who shares my bread has lifted up his heel against me.'[a]
19) "I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He. 20) I tell you the truth, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me."

21) After he had said this, Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified, "I tell you the truth, one of you is going to betray me."

22) His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23) One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24) Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, "Ask him which one he means."

25)Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, "Lord, who is it?"

26)Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish." Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27) As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.

"What you are about to do, do quickly," Jesus told him, 28) but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29) Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor. 30) As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.

04-08-08, 4:50 PM

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When I was watching Death Note I was still using google video to stream all of my anime, and when I searched for "Death Note episode 25" one of the first results was "L's death in episode 25", so the episode was completely ruined for me.

04-12-08, 5:24 PM

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My final thoughts: Finally! L's dead!
04-13-08, 5:46 AM

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The Jesus foot washing refrence scene is what choked me up the most. I dont look at it as yaio because I dont think thats what it was meant to represent.
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04-26-08, 10:55 PM

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So... have you all noticed that the people aren't doing CPR when someone has a heart attack...?

Sort of evil when you think about it...
05-07-08, 2:22 PM

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"Silence"... The most emotional episode.

08-19-08, 3:12 PM

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Woo! Yaoi moment!
Very sad episode >.<
I'm gonna miss Rem and L ;---;
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11-12-08, 1:40 PM

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I loved Rem. Made me sad to see her go. *tear*
11-24-08, 6:04 PM

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I thought Ryuzaki and Light wuold have such a friendly relashionship.
WHY L!!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12-19-08, 1:23 PM

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I managed to just watch this for the first time without knowing that L was going to die.

With hindsight, the Judas feet washing was symbolically ominous, but I just kind of figured that if L or Light was going to die, it would have to be very close to episode 37.

What on Earth can happen now that one of the two main characters is dead and Light appears to have just won? Well, I guess there's one way to find out, but I was very surprised that L died so long before the end of the story.

After Light Vs L, I think it would be hard for anything else not to be an anticlimax, especially if new characters are just introduced.
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12-20-08, 7:06 PM

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This episode is why I dropped DN.
12-20-08, 7:23 PM

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Oh wow. I was so pissed that L is dead. this anime is nothing without L.
12-21-08, 1:42 AM

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when i watched that episode......
I felt sad 'coz L died......awwww

the part when L massaged Light's feet is my favorite part
it made me laugh....

the part when Misa was walking was really weird for me.
03-10-09, 7:15 PM

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man L being dead really sucks. and now you even tell me the series will get worse...

03-22-09, 4:00 PM

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I was so worried that the anime wouldn't do the manga-version of L's death justice and so delayed watching this episode for aages >.< but I was impressed.. I mean seriously, the symbolism in this anime is ricidulously good -- it's almost like a film rather than an anime.. I loved the bit where Misa was there singing like a doll - she looked so much like a puppet it was creepy and really got across Light's hold on her. Also love to Light's red eyes when he looks back at Rem << awesome shot ^w^

and though the rain + towel scene was new (and totally unexpected xD), I really liked it *w* but maybe that's only because I'm a fan of the pairing anyway ^__^;; FANSERVICE!!!!! xD

but best of all was the way they did L's death TT_____TT I was so glad that they had Light smirking and that that shot was pulled directly from the manga.. I mean, wow.. what an ending.. though would have liked to hear L's thoughts then -- after all, he dies knowing that although he didn't get to solve the case, he was right.
03-22-09, 10:47 PM

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03-29-09, 2:40 PM

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L dying is still a massive shock even to me after reading the manga. The manga had a much different kind of suspense, with thoughts flying all over the pages. This is a lot more rushed and as a result, it feels just as good to watch but in a different sense, if you get my meaning.

I was pretty annoyed at the Yaoi fanservicing though - I REALLY don't recall that scene from the manga at all, and I just checked and no, it wasn't there. Clearly a fanservice, but I can overlook it because the death scene was played out oh-so well. It'll be interesting to see how Near and Melo develop in the anime, although I didn't really like either of them in the manga. It seemed like they seperated the two sides of L and apart, they weren't exactly appealing.

Regardless, I'm still intrigued to keep on watching.
03-30-09, 11:07 AM

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Wow, that was intense. >w<

The foot washing scene totally caught me off guard, and at first I thought it had to be random fanservice, but halfway through I realized the symbolism. xD

Man, I'm gonna miss L. He was my favorite. ;-; I hate Kira.
03-30-09, 8:10 PM

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Ontario said:
This episode is why I dropped DN.

Yes I agree. The anime just goes downhill from here. D:
04-01-09, 1:43 PM

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Loved it: L was adorable in it, the scene at Whammy's was just...amazing (I dunno, I liked seeing the top of L's little head 83), the LxLight footrub XD, and L looked HOT in the rain. I also liked Misa no Uta (Japanese is on my MP3 player)

Hated it: L. WHY?!?!?!?!?!???!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!

This episode, if I didn't hate him already, it made me LOATHE Light "I'm a gay". DAMN YOU!!!!!!!! KILL MISA OFF INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DDDDDDX
04-17-09, 5:53 AM

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Brilliant episode, but I'm a bit embarrassed to say this, but I've never cried so much at a show.:(

04-24-09, 11:18 AM

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This episode was really sad and I hated that L died,and W, something I never would have expected. But in the end it was a really good episode.

I miss L!! :(
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04-30-09, 8:31 AM

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They killed off my favorite character. Bitches.

I mean, I knew that one or the other had to die, but this early in the series?

It's gonna be like that big middle part of the series where Light wasn't Kira -- just didn't feel right or have the original suspense.


At least I'm glad I wasn't somehow spoiled on the whole death thing.. though it also throws out my idea that L was somehow "not quite human".. which I guess was far-fetched wishful thinking.

Like others have said, my final thought is that this would have been an amazing, possibly perfect ending to the series. As it is, having 10 episodes left, I'm not hopeful for a good conclusion to everything.

05-04-09, 2:29 PM

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This was an incredible ending to the series.
05-10-09, 7:35 PM

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waaa!! is L really dead?!??!?!!? i don't see rem's predicament at all.. is she saying that the only way to save misa is to kill L but by killing L, she's also gonna die because she saved misa??? is that really the only way? if i was rem, i would kill light... that way, i'm not gonna die cuz i'm not directly saving misa.. and at the same time, L's not gonna believe misa's kira because L's all too aware of misa's love for light, which he said time and time again right??? it doesn't make sense at all.. and its not like they have proof that misa's actually kira. although, that'll probably hurt misa.. but it'll save her at lease, i mean, rem knows that light doesn't really love misa, he's just using her... ugh!!!! DONT DIE L!!!!

anyway.. that scene after the rain thing... i thought it was a yaoi for one moment there. hahaha
06-09-09, 5:37 PM

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This is the actual finale of Death Note...

I don't know what to rate.. It was absolutely the saddest and one of the most shocking episodes of the DN. It was so great and i liked it. But it wasn't ok.. after seeing that scene.
I was all like "What? Really? No-no no-- how can it be? Why L ?"

Misa's singing.. was a little spine-chilling. Didn't get the point in this.

Though everything happened, really nice ep.
07-18-09, 10:05 AM

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rem should have gotten rid of light as well even if it made misa sad.
and then just let the anime end after they catch misa and imprison them for life.
08-02-09, 12:58 PM

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best episode ever... but also killed the series when they dragged the series on after L died, :(
08-07-09, 10:39 AM

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OH GOD! L WAS GAY! (sorry for capslock and spoilers)
08-18-09, 12:14 PM

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itainteazy said:
I dont know what to say.........L giving Light a foot massage was probably the weirdest most random thing that ever happened in the series. Besides that it was a good episode.

I swear I thought it was going to turn into a yaoi scene.
08-26-09, 9:20 PM

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if i was Rem i'd have killed Light along with L to give him one final @#$% you
08-28-09, 8:58 PM

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protoman96 said:
i think it might be symbolic of l's total submission to light, his complete subjugation/failure.

also, hirano aya ftw.

I agree, it is. Its not fanservice of course lol.

''Oh, and it's such a shame that they didn't do the scene when after Light smiles right before L dies, L thinks to himself that he knew that Light was Kira.''

Shit ,I didn't know that was left out. That part was so important, I felt L's dead was so stupid and casual... I felt they needed more of a '' I am Kira'' before L died.. \: Now its just stupid.

BUt i'm gonna miss him.

Damn rem, and damn misa, their both stupid.

Just, L knew he was gonna die.. he said ''This is farewell'' And, ''You've played it well.'' or ''everything went well''

damn \:..
08-31-09, 9:53 AM

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L knew he was going to die.
Light kept acting like he was L's friend till the end and after.
He has become so much darker, I wonder how much worse can it get.
09-10-09, 5:33 PM

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The massage scene really was weird, but I think that L was trying to see whether Light was a real friend, even if he was Kira, or not. Also during that discussion in the rain.
I've gotta say, so far it was brilliant, but with L gone I'm not sure whether it can keep this quality.
Before reading this thread I thought it was a ploy by L and that smirk by Light gave him the answer he was looking for, but now... He's really dead? :'(

But this episode: Brilliant.
09-11-09, 12:48 PM

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I honestly don't know why I've watched this show until now. It relies a bit too much on the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" cliché as the only reason why someone as pure-intentioned as the real Yagami Light would become this wicked, smirking sadist bent on becoming the 'god' of a 'new world' and all this crap.

I think the only reason I can't side with him over L is that he's just not convincing as a character. Of course this has lead to some impressive scenes, like when Light takes the Death Note from L's hands while sitting in the helicopter, and his face is momentarily frozen in horror as his memories of his Kira alter-ego flood back into his mind (leading to his oft-quoted, "Just as planned")... Yet still, I prefer L over Light simply because he's more ambiguous and intriguing as a character. Light is just this inexplicably warped, sinister version of his true self. And since it's never suggested that the Death Note actually has the power to drastically change its possessor's personality, I just don't accept Light as a believable character.

The only way I could rationalize it is that his discovery of the Death Note brought about some kind of psychological split or subconscious 'evil'... but the show never really goes into anything like this. He just discovers the Death Note, realizes what he can do with it, and boom: completely different person. Same smarts, but his personality change is such a betrayal of who he is otherwise...

The fact that Light has won and L is dead might upset me if Light (rather, Kira) felt more believable to me, but as it is, it's more like I'm disappointed in the anime as a whole, even though it has qualities that have kept me watching until now. I don't know if I'll continue, since I can't imagine that anything beyond L's death has any relevance.

Of course, all anyone else can think about is the 'yaoi' scene.
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09-12-09, 12:42 PM

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I hated it!!!!! And i cried a bit.... L was my favourite from Death Note... :(
10-30-09, 5:22 PM

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Okay, Rem is an idiot, and this show is so depressing and frustrating. I knew L was going to die because unfortunately everyone spoils it >.>

Anyway, Light has to be the pure essence of evil. No person would go through all that and feel no compassion.
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