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DaBigD said: i think it was less about romantic love, on Shinji's side anyways, then about have someone accept him completely and totallyOk...that was...creepy...i guess. Mr. Last Angel is in love with Shinji. And Shinji accepts his love. No more shounen-ai please. WTB more Asuka |
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| well....... that was gay. didnt liked it |
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| I don't agree that Kaworu is gay, in hope for the prayer's of god he is not "gay", in the evangelion 3 movie. also for me i just think that is the way he act's. now i am not Homofobic, but i don't like kaworu x Shinji |
| "No homo", they say. |
sfaddic182 said: well....... that was gay. didnt liked it Wow, you're a shallow little man. |
| New child is gay and is an angel meaning the angels are gay... It also seems Asuka is totally broken mentally... But yea really lol that ending... Well disliked this, didn't fit in the whole story but well the last angel died, what will the 2 last episodes be about? |
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| ...What was this. Shinji acted like he knew the Fifth Child longer than he actually did. |
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ThreePercent said: ...What was this. Shinji acted like he knew the Fifth Child longer than he actually did. It's important to understand where Shinji is coming from here. In his mind no one cares for him, they just throw him into Eva Unit 01 and make him suffer. He was forced to crush one of his friends, Asuka gives him hell all the time, and his dad seems to pay more attention to Rei than him and only contacted him to pilot the Eva. Now, when someone comes to him and seems to actually appreciate him as a human being you bet he is going to grow attached to them no matter how short a time period it is. People want to be loved....and it's no different here. I would say he also saw Kaworu as a sort of "escape" as well. Keep in mind that merely stating this from Shinji's point of view. It's clear that Misato, for example, really does genuinely care about him...but with his broken way of thinking he just doesn't see it. And, in her weird way, Asuka cared too. As well as others. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| lol, the gay angel. |
| Mfw i never knew how many homophobes were on MAL |
| Wow, lots of immaturity in this thread. In my opinion, Kaworu represented a type of Jesus figure for Shinji. The only being in the entire Universe who actually listened to him and, as far as we can tell, understood him for who he was entirely. Kaworu's "way" of being does not necessarily mean he had homosexual feelings for Shinji, or vice verse (though, there would be nothing wrong with that) just that he represented and acted upon true unconditional love (which would be key). It could also be argued that Kaworu had no specific gender, as the Angel's of before never had a gender to begin with (again, as far as we can tell), therefore it can be concluded that Kaworu, intrinsically, was neither a male or female, which could have also played a part with his behavior. Indeed, it is a never ending game of speculation, but I rather enjoy dealing with such ambiguity; being able to consider the large spectrum of possibilities instead of just merely "having" all the answers in my hand. That is how life is in reality, afterall. |
| Good episode. Though, I wish Shinji would have another intimate moment with Asuka. I feel he hasn't made up with anyone. |
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| >User since 2008 Please god help me quit this website. Such great community that doesn't even know how demographics work, AND gives """detailed"""" reviews after first episodes. |
CitizenGeek said: Episode 24 is by far my favourite episode in the series. It's immensely powerful! Those that are using words like "shonen-ai" about this episode really, really don't understand it at all. Labels like that totally cheapen the series and the experience. Shinji was sexually attracted to Kaworu, but this is an important character point not just some fan service shonen-ai ... lol you apparently didnt understand this episode too well either. I highly doubt Gainax was trying to prove a 14 year old boy was sexually attracted to Kaworu. I think the point was he was emotionally attracted or in "love" with him, as he could relate to him. I saw no signs of Shinji being sexually attracted to him. either way, didnt enjoy this ep too much. I dunno why they decide to pull this crap on the 24th episode of the series. |
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| Ughhh. This episode really pissed me off. |
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| WOW this episode was really good but that info O_O Thoughts from Episode 24 ADAM sure is mysterious and this kid "The Fifth Children" Nagase Kaoru. I like his personality and his character desiign was cool. He singging in top of that rock was pretty cool way of introducing him. And that guys was probably "Final Angel" And he doesn't have soul when he said that Rei is same like him. Were he also clone made of ADAM or Lilith now like Kaoru calls it. Kaoru calls human beans "Lilim" and he was also born from ADAM like Rei was. So Gendo is no human and he is something else interesting. That battle with Kaoru and Shinji were really good. Gainax sure like to use those over 3 min repeating same picture and characters don't move. So now we at least know how "Third Impact" could be created if Angel reaches Lilith and that would be results. Misato becomes watching other guys haha :P Best parts: Shinji fighting with Kaoru. Kaoru's appereances. |
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| not sure if gay or just hardcore bromance |
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| The mind fuck is great, but I wish it was throughout the show, I feel like i'm watching another show even though it's still Evangelion. Hoping for a good finish |
 "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" |
Venom900 said: The mind fuck is great, but I wish it was throughout the show, I feel like i'm watching another show even though it's still Evangelion. Hoping for a good finish I suggest watching End of Evangelion now instead of ep. 25 and 26. |
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| Unforunately it's too late, already watched episode 25 before I saw your advice...starting to regret it a little |
| "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" |
| I found it ironic they used ode to joy for the majority of the episode. |
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| This was the first episode where I just went to pure WTF and decided to give up on using my brain at all. The introduction of the Fifth Child, Kaoru was too short-lived though. We didn't even get to see much scenes on how their friendship developed, and Shinji already 'loves' him. Maybe I just dislike yaoi/shounen-ai, but damn, this episode is disappointing. |
| I haven't commented on the past few episodes, so this will just catch up. Eeeeeuh, where did all this pretentiousness come from when the show was just fine befoe? Shinji's a weak, feminine male with, apparently, not enough male influence in his life. He would be naturally be susceptible to Nagisa's passes, but the show introduced the new character so late that their relationship had no time to develop. From what we see, he practically shows up out of the blue to say he loves Shinji and ask him to kill him an episode later. That had the potential to be really emotional, but it was just too rushed and ended up seeming so pointless. :< I'm sure the manga takes the time to do that (I'll have to check it out of the library next time I'm there), but I'm not sure if it could correct the bad writing that has cropped up lately. :\ Talking heads, really? And all this stuff about Adam's first wife and man creating men in his own image and euh. It's irreverent to begin with, but I would be more sympathetic if the writing was more capable. It almost seems like they use jargon to make the show more difficult to follow than it needs to be in an attempt to seem deeper or more intelligent. Euh. This is probably more of a subjective thing, but the Handel piece didn't fit at all with Asuka's emotional breakdown. I had to burst out laughing there. The classical music doesn't merge well with the rest of the soundtrack or, really, the scenes in my opinion. I just find it a little cheesy, hehehe. and NO Pen Pen! The only character I care about, nooooo! |
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This anime just keeps confusing me. I can barely think. I like to think I'm not a clueless idiot and this anime shamelessly keeps making me feel stupid. Damn it, why did some people have to flood the thread with homophobic comments? I mean, seriously, this episode had a lot more to offer than only those "gay moments". Can't believe that was the only thing you thought was worth mentioning. |
Cathedral said: (...) Shinji's a weak, feminine male with, apparently, not enough male influence in his life. He would be naturally be susceptible to Nagisa's passes, but the show introduced the new character so late that their relationship had no time to develop. From what we see, he practically shows up out of the blue to say he loves Shinji and ask him to kill him an episode later. That had the potential to be really emotional, but it was just too rushed and ended up seeming so pointless. :< (...) This is probably more of a subjective thing, but the Handel piece didn't fit at all with Asuka's emotional breakdown. I had to burst out laughing there. The classical music doesn't merge well with the rest of the soundtrack or, really, the scenes in my opinion. I just find it a little cheesy, hehehe. (...) My thoughts basically. |
| I want to know what will happen now?Because they killed the last angel... Btw shinji is gay? Omg xD |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| Still haven't seen any eye in a hand thing ... I guess that must be directors cut stuff lol. Kinda glad I haven't lol. I absolutely adored this episode! Kaworu was amazing! I can't believe he died ... "but I loved him"~ He just loved mankind and not just Shinji I think. Shinji clearly liked him back because he showed such kindness to him, something no one has ever really afforded him before ... I don't think it was necessarily supposed to be gay at all tbh. Sometimes people just get overwhelmed and don't always know how to take people being nice to them when they aren't used to it. The classical music goes so well with this series, they should've used it more. I agree, a lot of what was said on this thread came across as a bit homophobic which did quite amaze me, especially in this day and age.  Especially when this was seen earlier in the series. |
stephtastropheAug 14, 2013 5:53 AM
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CanadaAotS said: Well. That was a gay moment and a half. Super gay. |
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| Hahh!!! Gayiiiiiii !!! |
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| I'm not sure if Kaoru loved Shinji in a romantic sense. I think he meant that he loved Shinji as a person/human being. Shinji said that nobody has ever told him that and not even his father said that he loved him. Although i'm totally guessing here so I could be wrong. |
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| I don't think they're using their blankets correctly... |
| I like the idea of this episode as a whole but I was disappointed on how the plot points were portrayed. They honestly should have docked one of the less important episodes in the beginning and made room for some more character development of Kaworu. I understand where they were coming from and how Shinji became attached, but as a viewer, it would have been much more dramatic if Kaworu was introduced earlier and given more screen time. I guess his death didn't pull at my heart strings like the other deaths and tragedies shown before :c |
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| Just when Shinji found someone who actually acknowledges him, he turns out to be an Angel. Other than being Shinji's friend, what was the point of Kaoru? There's just so many things I still don't understand. And it really doesn't help tha they're throwing in another term this late in the series (unless I missed it from the earlier episodes). What's a Lilim? And SEELE can now send Angels? I've had a hunch that everything was happening because it's planned but how...ugh I don't think I want to think anymore. The last two episodes better be good. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| I don't think Kaoru really understood human sexual relations or appropriate behaviour in a platonic context, etc. TO BE EXPECTED TO BE HONEST. Shinji's just been headf'ed all series (/his life) too. *calling "not gay"* He did need another episode for development though. |
| did that just turn yaoi |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| beautiful, tragic, and mysterious side note: NERV needs some freakin staff therapists side note pt 2.: ALL these characters need Jesus lol... but seriously faith is a powerful thing, especially at the depths of despair. |
DaydreamHeroMar 8, 2014 1:07 AM
| Love and Peace!!! |
| Well, I'm glad you liked this episode. It's probably one of my favorites as well. It will be interesting what you think of the last two episodes and End of Evangelion. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
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