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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 77 | 30.80% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 75 | 30.00% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 50 | 20.00% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 31 | 12.40% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 17 | 6.80% |
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#21
07-02-09, 12:46 PM
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That was an interesting end. I was thinking how they'll end is, I liked this. The movie was very nice. Loved all the moments with Eureka and Renton together. Scenery was beautiful as well, just like Eureka. Very enjoyable movie. 9/10 |
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07-02-09, 1:07 PM
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EmmanuelVR said: MetatronM said: Of course, the other fault of the movie is what they did with the Gekko crew. While the series portrayed them clearly as good guys who had to fight for what they believed in, the movie couldn't seem to really figure out what they were. Were they villains willing to do anything it took to see their goals fulfilled? Were they good guys who were just misunderstood and had to do what was necessary? It's all pretty vague. That made it all that much better in my opinion. They were not good guys, they were not bad guys. They were people trying to keep on living, just like the military and the rest of humanity. Their objectives just collided, so they had to fight each other to live. I, for one, loved this change. My problem isn't the change in and of itself but how poorly executed it was and how profoundly uninteresting and unlikeable they were. Aside from Talho, all of them were either made into non-entities or into downright assholes. Half of them didn't even have more than one or two lines of dialogue, if they were even lucky to get that much. They almost would have been better served leaving the Gekko out entirely, since ultimately they had really a whole lot of nothing to do with what Renton and Eureka needed to do (or apparently needed to do...or didn't need to do but decided to do anyway...or, eh, who the hell even knows). I'm all for turning the tables on characters (for example, what they did with the Sages was very interesting and substantially better handled), but this was just shoddily done. Modified by MetatronM, 07-02-09, 1:11 PM |
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07-02-09, 5:05 PM
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Felt nice to see all the characters again. This was a really enjoyable movie for me, although I found the story pretty confusing. But as a movie that's not supposed to have anything to do with the the tv-series, I liked it a lot. Animation, voice acting and the music was all top notch. 4/5 ![]() |
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07-02-09, 5:48 PM
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MetatronM said: My problem isn't the change in and of itself but how poorly executed it was and how profoundly uninteresting and unlikeable they were. Aside from Talho, all of them were either made into non-entities or into downright assholes. Half of them didn't even have more than one or two lines of dialogue, if they were even lucky to get that much. They almost would have been better served leaving the Gekko out entirely, since ultimately they had really a whole lot of nothing to do with what Renton and Eureka needed to do (or apparently needed to do...or didn't need to do but decided to do anyway...or, eh, who the hell even knows). I'm all for turning the tables on characters (for example, what they did with the Sages was very interesting and substantially better handled), but this was just shoddily done. I disagree, I found their point of view for things rather interesting, and how well it collided with Renton's. I'll give you that everyone not named Holland/Talho was there on name only, as "the Gekko State", or 303 youth army to be exact. (except Stoner and Hap, which would be my only complain, specially Hap, but then again this is not the same people.) They represented a group of children (weird to say this huh?) affected by what had happened before, all thanks to the stupidity of humanity and not being able to communicate with the Imagine/Coral. And it was way better to use them rather than create generic characters for that purpose only. Holland was an asshole, yes, but to deny that his character was interesting is another thing. Considering all that happened, and that this Holland was neither particularly fond of Eureka or Renton indirectly (the sister thing), the way things played out was very interesting (at least for me). I don't really understand what you meant by the "needed to do" part, so I won't say anything about that. Modified by EmmanuelVR, 07-02-09, 5:53 PM |
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07-02-09, 6:16 PM
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EmmanuelVR said: But Holland WASN'T interesting, because I have no friggin' idea what he wanted. He was fickle as hell, believed in fairy tales, didn't seem to even know if what he was searching for was literal or a metaphor, and just generally wasn't well established.MetatronM said: My problem isn't the change in and of itself but how poorly executed it was and how profoundly uninteresting and unlikeable they were. Aside from Talho, all of them were either made into non-entities or into downright assholes. Half of them didn't even have more than one or two lines of dialogue, if they were even lucky to get that much. They almost would have been better served leaving the Gekko out entirely, since ultimately they had really a whole lot of nothing to do with what Renton and Eureka needed to do (or apparently needed to do...or didn't need to do but decided to do anyway...or, eh, who the hell even knows). I'm all for turning the tables on characters (for example, what they did with the Sages was very interesting and substantially better handled), but this was just shoddily done. I disagree, I found their point of view for things rather interesting, and how well it collided with Renton's. I'll give you that everyone not named Holland/Talho was there on name only, as "the Gekko State", or 303 youth army to be exact. (except Stoner and Hap, which would be my only complain, specially Hap, but then again this is not the same people.) They represented a group of children (weird to say this huh?) affected by what had happened before, all thanks to the stupidity of humanity and not being able to communicate with the Imagine/Coral. And it was way better to use them rather than create generic characters for that purpose only. Holland was an asshole, yes, but to deny that his character was interesting is another thing. Considering all that happened, and that this Holland was neither particularly fond of Eureka or Renton indirectly (the sister thing), the way things played out was very interesting (at least for me). I don't really understand what you meant by the "needed to do" part, so I won't say anything about that. The rest of the 303 army was basically given no foundation as individual characters. They're just a group of poor saps with a sob story who happen to look like characters from a TV show I've seen before. But none of them had any actual characterization or anything going on with them. The only ones who DID, Hap and Stoner, were wholly unsympathetic, presumptuous, unintelligent, and unlikable. Also, I don't know what "sister" thing you're talking about. Diane was not Renton's sister in the movie (and, as near as I can remember, wasn't even named Diane EDIT-just checked, her name is A. Yamashita in the movie), and there's no evidence that she had anything to do with movie!Holland at all. Not to mention Holland's name isn't actually Holland in the movie. He just took that name so he could take over command of the 303 without anyone knowing (though why everybody continues to call him that even after the fact is beyond me). |
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07-02-09, 6:47 PM
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I was supremely disappointed by this simply because I was led to believe that it would be a continuation, rather than a "parallel universe" story. I thought it looked nice, but was absolutely drivel. I feel supremely cheated, both out of my time and bandwidth. Unbelievable. Editor - qq Fansubs - #qqkthx@irc.rizon.net - http://www.qqkthx.org/ |
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07-02-09, 7:00 PM
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Spoilers ahead for anyone that hasn't seen it: MetatronM said: But Holland WASN'T interesting, because I have no friggin' idea what he wanted. He was fickle as hell, believed in fairy tales, didn't seem to even know if what he was searching for was literal or a metaphor, and just generally wasn't well established. He was trying to reach Neverland, the place he believes they were meant to be and was the only place where they would be able to live normally. A place where time had stopped. Holland tried to use the Nirvash, Renton and Eureka, together with the Hammer of god, to reach said place (but as explained with the subatom theory, would actually just modify that one). The only reason he stopped was because of Talho getting pregnant, which would mean that achieving neverland would not let that baby be born. Fickle? I wouldn't call him that at all. He was pretty straightforward about what he wanted, and even expressed remorse on using Renton, but would have if it saved everyone on the Gekko-go and specially Talho. MetatronM said: The rest of the 303 army was basically given no foundation as individual characters. They're just a group of poor saps with a sob story who happen to look like characters from a TV show I've seen before. But none of them had any actual characterization or anything going on with them. The only ones who DID, Hap and Stoner, were wholly unsympathetic, presumptuous, unintelligent, and unlikable. Yeah, basically. They were there as a group, not as single entities. And better to use them rather than create new generic characters. I already said what I felt about Hap and Stoner, and basically matches what you said. But they were never even important, and only used as part of the plot during the movie. MetatronM said: Also, I don't know what "sister" thing you're talking about. Diane was not Renton's sister in the movie (and, as near as I can remember, wasn't even named Diane EDIT-just checked, her name is A. Yamashita in the movie), and there's no evidence that she had anything to do with movie!Holland at all. I meant something more along the lines of "Holland wasn't fond of Eureka, or even Renton indirectly (as he did in the series thanks to his relationship with his sister). Sorry if I didn't explain myself well. MetatronM said: Not to mention Holland's name isn't actually Holland in the movie. He just took that name so he could take over command of the 303 without anyone knowing (though why everybody continues to call him that even after the fact is beyond me). Yeah, they most likely did that for the viewers more than anything. My guess? He is probably called norb! (just joking). Stadtfeld said: I was supremely disappointed by this simply because I was led to believe that it would be a continuation, rather than a "parallel universe" story. I thought it looked nice, but was absolutely drivel. I feel supremely cheated, both out of my time and bandwidth. Unbelievable. What the hell led you to believe that? XD From day one we were told it would be an alternative universe. Modified by EmmanuelVR, 07-02-09, 7:08 PM |
#28
07-02-09, 8:17 PM
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I'm not gonna Write something long or quote on quote come one guys just watch the movie enjoy it and say what u felt about it. briefly. so ya it was a interesting take to Eureka seveN im don't really want to compare the anime and the movie, i saw them for what they were different takes at the story both were good in its own way liked the new animation of course and long hair Eureka all in all it was a nice watch. we still got the holding hand ending and looking off so that's GOOD> on to the next anime or manga bye aas. ![]() |
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07-02-09, 8:27 PM
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i was also disappointed, it just dint have what the eureka 7 had euraka 7 brought up emotions, this dint aldo it was a good movie. it very hard to make a parallel universe movie as good as the original, which was EPIC |
#30
07-02-09, 9:35 PM
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snakekiller said: i was also disappointed, it just dint have what the eureka 7 had euraka 7 brought up emotions, this dint aldo it was a good movie. it very hard to make a parallel universe movie as good as the original, which was EPIC of course its hard to make parallel universe movie knowing that no matter what Bones does people are still gonna compare. like how our moms do with this like ur friend Johnny got a A in math and u didn;'t Fuck off mom. ![]() |
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07-02-09, 10:22 PM
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I was wtf throughout the whole movie. But I highly enjoyed this movie, its a great standalone film, unless anyone is superly anal about the original story line; which I'm not, 5/5 on my part. |
#32
07-02-09, 10:58 PM
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YEAH, Hap and Stoner got what they deserved! Now I only wish that Holland would die. At first, I was disappointed because I believed that I would only see an old Anemone; luckily, I was wrong. I'm glad how the story kept forwarding itself, and there were rarely any dull parts for me. I had a feeling that there wouldn't be a totally happy ending, but Eureka really should have kept growing out her hair; she almost rivals the beauty of Anemone. <3 I was hoping that Ray and Charles would appear somewhere though... ![]() |
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07-03-09, 12:40 AM
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The movie was very disappointing in my opinion, I was enjoying the movie just before Renton got locked inside the prison cell aboard the Gekko, then everything went down-hill until I saw the long-haired and naked Eureka (Bones, thank you for the fan service, you've made a happy man).The story was difficult to follow since it jumped from point to point with very little clarity, the dialogue was mediocre in some parts, and some of the reasoning behind the characters' actions was absurd. Then the characters, why were Nirvash and TheEnd freaking plushies? WTF?!, why were Hap and Stoner a pair of a-holes with very stupid reasoning?, why make Holland seem like a weak idiotic kid?, and where was the great character development that the series had?. And the end was way too open and somewhat confusing, why did Eureka lose her memories? Why?. Oh yeah, I hated the freaking recycled scenes from the series (why was Bones so lazy). However, I did like that the new Renton was less of a depressed little bitch, then that Eureka seemed more like a human, and Anemone wasn't crazy anymore in fact she seemed rather wise and mature. The music was superb as it was in the series and the new action scenes were pretty bad ass but they could not save the story. So, I would rather stick to the series, even if this movie was set in a parallel universe with a new mythos , it was executed rather poorly. |
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07-03-09, 1:50 AM
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I'll give it a 9/10 if you gonna watch this forget about the 50 episode series and just try to enjoy this movie. this beats a gay ass 1 hour and 30 minute recap of the series made into a movie, just try to enjoy the movie. The thing I like most about bones and there animations is the romance/action ratio I enjoy romance/action animes a lot and this is one of the best. The only thing that got me was why the hell did eureka lose her memories at the end other than that I enjoyed this movie a lot. stop thinking about the series too much and just try to enjoy the movie. |
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07-03-09, 3:41 AM
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Stadtfeld said: I was supremely disappointed by this simply because I was led to believe that it would be a continuation, rather than a "parallel universe" story. I thought it looked nice, but was absolutely drivel. I feel supremely cheated, both out of my time and bandwidth. Unbelievable. Its been said for a long time that it wasnt a continuation... So kinda your own fault for not reading up :P As for how i liked the Movie? I thought it was good, although another ending that i would have liked to see more of to see how everything turned out. |
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07-03-09, 5:40 AM
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Hard to judge this one and not echo what has already been said about this series being less then perfect. I'd just like to add a few things. One, the music by Naoki Sato this time around just wasn't as emotional. It definitely had a different feel though and in a way guess it was better that it did because this story also had a different feel to it. The animation and the art in this film was fun. Not sure about the Puni Nirvash but it added a level of cuteness to the film. I was also flushed by the young Eureka and Renton.(They were just so kawaii it's hard not to smile when you first see them) my smile was almost immediate. The character designs where almost carbon copies of the original series, but I'm another big fan of Eureka's long blue hair at the end. There were slight differences but nothing major. As for the story? Well at first it almost felt as if it could be a prequel. My brain kept trying to squeeze it into some sort of pre-time line, but after about the first twenty or thirty minutes, I noticed it was all in my head. It took me about half the movie to finally just sit back and enjoy it as something that was different, close that door in my mind to the tv series, and watch it as alternate version. Yes, I knew it was an alternate retelling but what can I say, my mind was playing tricks on me. Or was it Bones? Ultimately IMO, I liked it!!! The battle scenes where great, the tiny Eureka, Renton and Nirvash were Kawaii, and the new interpretation of the Gekkostate state crew was different. Art, music and an interesting new interpretation got this series a 7/9 from me. It lost points because of issues already mentioned, like the condensed script which made this movie feel a bit rushed and confusing at times. Modified by Orion1, 07-03-09, 5:50 AM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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07-03-09, 8:16 AM
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hmmm the movie overall was alright i was really hoping more on a continuation of the original series but i guess this would have to do... it was great to have all the characters back, but i hated how they recycled a lot of the scenes from the series but just changed a few parts. overall i liked it, it was like watching a whole new anime but with characters that i really love. |
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07-03-09, 11:44 AM
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Oh you know that Hap turned evil when he opened his eyes...... I'm a little mad that everyone else in gekkostate didn't say much that and the story had to many WTF moments. 7/10 |
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07-03-09, 11:02 PM
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Chimasternmay said: snakekiller said: i was also disappointed, it just dint have what the eureka 7 had euraka 7 brought up emotions, this dint aldo it was a good movie. it very hard to make a parallel universe movie as good as the original, which was EPIC of course its hard to make parallel universe movie knowing that no matter what Bones does people are still gonna compare. like how our moms do with this like ur friend Johnny got a A in math and u didn;'t Fuck off mom. LOL the movie itself was great and enjoyable, but felt rushed and confusing no character development, very good music i give it 7/9 I loved eureka with long hair |
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07-04-09, 2:10 AM
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Huh. I just finished watching this and am quite at a loss for words. The movie itself, as a standalone, is not bad in its own right, not bad at all. However, being based off of Eureka 7 and its amazing source material, this movie fails to come up to par. For me anyways. There were a fair share of problems that were in this movie. One that constantly got on my nerves was how recycled the movie felt. Many scenes were completely identical to those seen in the TV series, just far too many for my liking. Also, the plot wasn't compelling at all and character development was quite dead. This led to the plot feeling very rushed as it seemed that they tried to do too many things with only 120 minutes. However, I must say that what they tried to do with the plot and characters of the series is daring as a whole new story is made and not a continuation (even though I would prefer a continuation of sorts). On the other hand, there were a number of positive notes. New animation is crisp and clean, only to be expected from BONES. The soundtrack is also noteworthy, staying true to its roots back in the series. Other smaller, certain, miscellaneous details are also quite nice such as more Devilfish action and more aerial combat in general. Given the negatives to this movie, there are a few redeeming qualities. I give the movie a 7/10 as I honestly don't think it deserves a 6, but there are too many flaws to reach an 8. |
















