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May 30, 2009 3:29 AM
#1
The episode 403 of One Piece with English subtitles was leaked to video sharing websites. The episode was supposed to be streamed on FUNimation channel on May 30th at 9:00 pm central, one hour after the airing in Japan. The leaked file was downloaded from FUNimation server by illegal access. Source: Anime!Anime! Update FUNimation released a statement regarding the leak. The simulcast will be suspended for the time being. FUNimation official blog Related topic: One Piece to Be Broadcasted Simultaneously Starting from the Episode 403 Update2 FUNimation will resume the streaming of One Piece on August 21st. The suspended episodes from Episode 391 will be aired for free. The simultaneous streaming of the newest episode will be resumed on August 29th from Episode 415. Source: Anime!Anime! |
dtshykAug 20, 2009 12:05 AM
May 30, 2009 3:39 AM
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May 30, 2009 3:51 AM
#4
There are some lucky people. One Piece Episode 403 Discussion Funi and TV Tokyo Fuji TV were betting a lot on this simulcast. I can see Funi staff being in cold sweats about how to make an excuse to raged TV Tokyo Fuji TV. oh it's Fuji TV not TV Tokyo. *edited |
dtshykMay 30, 2009 6:52 AM
May 30, 2009 4:22 AM
#6
This is quite interesting news, even though they don't affect me directly. I don't wanna see Funi succeeding in these endeavors because it'll get in the way of people that want to watch their anime without getting eye cancer, and I don't particularly care for sponsoring the japanese anime industry for now. since anime won't hit my country's mainstream media anytime soon. I'd rather not have the only way of legally watching current airing anime being low quality web streams, simultaneous or not. |
May 30, 2009 4:36 AM
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RandomOugi said: I'd rather not have the only way of legally watching current airing anime being low quality web streams, simultaneous or not. I completely agree. It upsets me a lot TV is removing what little anime it already showed in favour of streaming. Streaming is not a real solution. >.< And I'm giving the industry less of my money than I used to due to their recent retardation and the treatment of real fans in areas such as this. |
May 30, 2009 4:40 AM
#8
Aww, poor Funimation. xD |
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May 30, 2009 5:36 AM
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bad 360 p with annoying Toei Animation watermark on the bottom right ... sigh but still lol dtshyk said: Funi and TV Tokyo were betting a lot on this simulcast. I can see Funi staff being in cold sweats about how to make an excuse to raged TV Tokyo. lol'ed again |
May 30, 2009 6:20 AM
#11
lol it happened about midnight my time, itll be fun to see how they explain this lol stupid funimation:p |
May 30, 2009 7:58 AM
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May 30, 2009 9:14 AM
#15
Oh snap... |
May 30, 2009 11:02 AM
#16
Oh man... |
May 30, 2009 11:34 AM
#17
I hate to say it but the ones who stole the video from Funimation's site probably ruined it for those that where actually looking forward to watching this. Maybe I'm one of the few who actually wanted this to succeed because then maybe more options other than streaming would be available. Honestly, we're even lucky to get this because in the past most of the Japanese companies would have said no to this but if fans keep trying to sabotage the companies like this then no other progress is going to be made to get more legal options for viewing anime. Though then again nothing may happen, it's not like things have never been leaked out before. |
May 30, 2009 12:54 PM
#18
I am also one of the those whom wanted to see this succeed. I have taken on the practice of watching streamed episodes that are subbed on legitimate websites in order to support the anime industry. It would really be a terrible shame if simulcasting was to suffer due to something like this. Videos have been brought down on the official US One Piece site (run by Funimation) and Hulu is reporting that today they were asked to remove Episode 391 (the only recent subbed episode they are hosting) from their site. For those complaining about the quality of the streams, I have watched several subbed anime on Funimation's site and they are of very acceptable quality (I watched Gunslinger Girl 2 and currently watch FMA2). |
May 30, 2009 1:33 PM
#19
o wowz no wonder it's alrdy subbed XD and here i thought something was wrong XD |
May 30, 2009 2:00 PM
#20
Funimation just posted this on US One Piece website: As anime fans know, FUNimation Entertainment and Toei Animation had planned for the first ever online simulcast of the series ‘One Piece’ tonight at 9:00 pm CDT., just one hour after its premiere on Japan’s Fuji Television. Unfortunately, in the last 24 hours we have determined that the FUNimation servers were compromised, even though we employ strict security standards. An unknown individual accessed and posted episode 403 online and as a direct result of this illegal act, all U.S. and Canadian fans will be deprived of access to this great anime series for the immediate future. We will make every effort to locate and prosecute the perpetrator(s)to the fullest extent of the law and will provide updates regarding this most serious matter |
May 30, 2009 2:21 PM
#21
Well, at least everybody's fucked now. Whoever did this is clearly retarded. I can't even access that site and I don't care about One Piece but this seriously sabotaged any further attempts at a (global) simulcast. |
May 30, 2009 2:32 PM
#22
Yep, that pretty much ruined it. As far as companies wanting to try any other simulcast whether it's through streaming or in any other format, it may not happen now with this. Who says that something like this won't happen again? Honestly, the whole thing is stupid. |
May 30, 2009 2:39 PM
#23
Capellabun said: Yep, that pretty much ruined it. As far as companies wanting to try any other simulcast whether it's through streaming or in any other format, it may not happen now with this. Who says that something like this won't happen again? Honestly, the whole thing is stupid. who cares |
May 30, 2009 2:44 PM
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Loverhina said: Capellabun said: Yep, that pretty much ruined it. As far as companies wanting to try any other simulcast whether it's through streaming or in any other format, it may not happen now with this. Who says that something like this won't happen again? Honestly, the whole thing is stupid. who cares Those who where looking forward to it? Those who may have wanted more simulcasts like this to happen. |
May 30, 2009 2:47 PM
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May 30, 2009 2:48 PM
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Anyone who enjoys anime should care. This was an attempt to tap into the possibility of generating profit from American viewers that have to use fansubs to watch up-to-date anime. How does helping the anime industry generate profit help fans of anime? That should be apparent without having to say it but I guess it isn't. Although I highly doubt the anime industry as a whole would ever completely disappear, but if things like DVD sales continue to trend down there will be an effect. There would be less incentive to adapt new mangas for anime or existing manga that are popular. Shows that don't do extremely well in ratings would be less likely to get seconds seasons. I can understand that not everyone has enough disposable income to support the industry by doing things like buying DVD box sets (I am one of those people), but it is rather sickening to hear people say they would refuse to even watch official streams/other official web releases. Are there really that many people who wouldn't even support an industry they get entertainment from if they are given a way to do it for free? |
May 30, 2009 3:02 PM
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lostcause said: Anyone who enjoys anime should care. This was an attempt to tap into the possibility of generating profit from American viewers that have to use fansubs to watch up-to-date anime. How does helping the anime industry generate profit help fans of anime? That should be apparent without having to say it but I guess it isn't. Although I highly doubt the anime industry as a whole would ever completely disappear, but if things like DVD sales continue to trend down there will be an effect. There would be less incentive to adapt new mangas for anime or existing manga that are popular. Shows that don't do extremely well in ratings would be less likely to get seconds seasons. I can understand that not everyone has enough disposable income to support the industry by doing things like buying DVD box sets (I am one of those people), but it is rather sickening to hear people say they would refuse to even watch official streams/other official web releases. Are there really that many people who wouldn't even support an industry they get entertainment from if they are given a way to do it for free? i couldn't even read your whole post. funimation sub/dub are horrible. If you want to help the anime industry consider getting satellite from whatever boonies you are located because streaming is free nub. are you thinking "oh i can help the industry but streaming free episode that i am going to watch because of my prevoius post i dont have enough money to buy the box sets" ... sigh the "anime industry" isnt goin to profit if you watch free streaming or not |
May 30, 2009 3:08 PM
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Loverhina said: i couldn't even read your whole post. funimation sub/dub are horrible. If you want to help the anime industry consider getting satellite from whatever boonies you are located because streaming is free nub. are you thinking "oh i can help the industry but streaming free episode that i am going to watch because of my prevoius post i dont have enough money to buy the box sets" ... sigh the "anime industry" isnt goin to profit if you watch free streaming or not You obviously haven't watched subbed anime on FUNimation, Hulu, or Joost. All of those streaming services have some commercial interruption or advertisement. So while you are correct it is free to viewer, it does generate some profit per view. I won't resort to calling you some immature name, but do some research before you say there is nothing gained by individuals watching streamed media. |
May 30, 2009 3:13 PM
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lostcause said: Loverhina said: i couldn't even read your whole post. funimation sub/dub are horrible. If you want to help the anime industry consider getting satellite from whatever boonies you are located because streaming is free nub. are you thinking "oh i can help the industry but streaming free episode that i am going to watch because of my prevoius post i dont have enough money to buy the box sets" ... sigh the "anime industry" isnt goin to profit if you watch free streaming or not You obviously haven't watched subbed anime on FUNimation, Hulu, or Joost. All of those streaming services have some commercial interruption or advertisement. So while you are correct it is free to viewer, it does generate some profit per view. I won't resort to calling you some immature name, but do some research before you say there is nothing gained by individuals watching streamed media. are you paying for it? no . do you click on the advertisments? no... its still free for you so doesn't make sense how you connect free streaming to the anime industry |
May 30, 2009 3:31 PM
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Loverhina said: lostcause said: Loverhina said: i couldn't even read your whole post. funimation sub/dub are horrible. If you want to help the anime industry consider getting satellite from whatever boonies you are located because streaming is free nub. are you thinking "oh i can help the industry but streaming free episode that i am going to watch because of my prevoius post i dont have enough money to buy the box sets" ... sigh the "anime industry" isnt goin to profit if you watch free streaming or not You obviously haven't watched subbed anime on FUNimation, Hulu, or Joost. All of those streaming services have some commercial interruption or advertisement. So while you are correct it is free to viewer, it does generate some profit per view. I won't resort to calling you some immature name, but do some research before you say there is nothing gained by individuals watching streamed media. are you paying for it? no . do you click on the advertisments? no... its still free for you so doesn't make sense how you connect free streaming to the anime industry Uh, how do you not connect free streaming to the anime industry? They do profit from advertisements, just because you don't click on it or pay for doesn't mean they don't get any money for it. If you watch Funimation's streams or watch anything on Hulu you are pretty much forced into watching those advertisements which companies pay to put in streams. If they didn't get any money from it they wouldn't bother with putting them up. |
May 30, 2009 4:20 PM
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Splitter said: Oh, boo-freakedy-hoo! Because having to switch to another screen for 30 seconds is just SOOOOOOOO painful! Shut the f*ck up, you wannabe fan! From your post I can't tell who or what your replying to. |
May 30, 2009 4:32 PM
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Capellabun said: Splitter said: Oh, boo-freakedy-hoo! Because having to switch to another screen for 30 seconds is just SOOOOOOOO painful! Shut the f*ck up, you wannabe fan! From your post I can't tell who or what your replying to. I don't think Splitter was directing that to you; it was probably just a mistake in the quoting. As for this whole fiasco, consider me bummed. While I wasn't going to take advantage of the free streaming, I was all for this setup. Sure, it wasn't a perfect release/setup, but at least it was a step in the right direction. And somebody just HAD to f it up for those who were going to support it. |
May 30, 2009 5:25 PM
#33
I misread something. Sorry for yelling where it didn't need to be yelling. |
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May 30, 2009 5:55 PM
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lostcause said: Funimation just posted this on US One Piece website: As anime fans know, FUNimation Entertainment and Toei Animation had planned for the first ever online simulcast of the series ‘One Piece’ tonight at 9:00 pm CDT., just one hour after its premiere on Japan’s Fuji Television. Unfortunately, in the last 24 hours we have determined that the FUNimation servers were compromised, even though we employ strict security standards. An unknown individual accessed and posted episode 403 online and as a direct result of this illegal act, all U.S. and Canadian fans will be deprived of access to this great anime series for the immediate future. We will make every effort to locate and prosecute the perpetrator(s)to the fullest extent of the law and will provide updates regarding this most serious matter Fuck. I seriously hope Funimation is allowed to continue this service. |
May 30, 2009 7:07 PM
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either way if you watch it or not u wont be contributing because the advertisements would already be paid for ... if you actually want to do something buy the DVDs that they release on amazon , might have more of an impact than ur mindless "qq i help out by free streaming " nonsense |
May 30, 2009 7:15 PM
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May 30, 2009 7:21 PM
#37
I don't care until it affects HQ fansubs. I can see how some people would like to watch this stream but ohh well. Now you just have to watch it from somewhere else like you have been doing. Its they're lost not ours. |
May 30, 2009 7:32 PM
#38
Wow, leaking an episode of a weekly anime series a few hours early is probably the most useless thing that is humanly possible to leak. I hope whoever did it feels really good about themselves, because they've done absolutely no one any favors. And to the people that range from indignant to happy with the idea that simulcasts may become less of a possibility in the future: you kind of disgust me. Sure, you'll always have your honorific-laden fansubs with hideously annoying karaoke, but that's a given no matter what. |
youngerMay 30, 2009 7:35 PM
May 30, 2009 7:41 PM
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Serious fucking Business Blog said: This is a big fucking pile of bullshit. Your servers were compromised my ass. Let me tell you something about Funimation streaming: It’s a fucking joke. “Strict security standards”? What “strict security standards”? Back when they put Negima!? on their streaming service I checked it out and it was a streamed .FLV file that you could download with a Firefox add-on like say, Download Helper. Even though Fullmetal Alchemist: Brohood is supposed to be “region locked” you can get the link to the .FLV still and download it from a foreign country even though you can’t view it directly on the page. And since their server is paper thin and you can’t really fluidly stream FMA anyway, downloading it is the better option. Additionally, all of the streaming videos are in the same folder on their server and they all follow a certain naming format: So if you’ve been downloading FMA: Brohood or whatever else from Funimation’s website, you could use the same format and enter “ONE_PIECE” and “403″ and spam the link all day until it gets uploaded, which might as well be what happened yesterday. |
May 30, 2009 8:47 PM
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I want Capellabun to respond because she tickles me much=p |
May 30, 2009 10:22 PM
#41
This is actually very bad for fansubs too, for so long fansubs have been skirting being legal or not, now someone has jumped in and actually stole unreleased materials, and Toei is pissed. Toei is going to start going after these people now, I think fansubs might come to an end because of this, or at least some will end up in prison. And we still won't get legal streams, it is very wrong that one person might have begun the end of anime. |
May 30, 2009 10:53 PM
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mitamaking said: This is actually very bad for fansubs too, for so long fansubs have been skirting being legal or not, now someone has jumped in and actually stole unreleased materials, and Toei is pissed. Toei is going to start going after these people now, I think fansubs might come to an end because of this, or at least some will end up in prison. And we still won't get legal streams, it is very wrong that one person might have begun the end of anime. Way to overdramatise it. Sure Toei may go after some people, but it won't dent the fansub community in the slightest. |
May 30, 2009 10:57 PM
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Asako said: mitamaking said: This is actually very bad for fansubs too, for so long fansubs have been skirting being legal or not, now someone has jumped in and actually stole unreleased materials, and Toei is pissed. Toei is going to start going after these people now, I think fansubs might come to an end because of this, or at least some will end up in prison. And we still won't get legal streams, it is very wrong that one person might have begun the end of anime. Way to overdramatise it. Sure Toei may go after some people, but it won't dent the fansub community in the slightest. This is the straw that broke the camels back, once they go after one they will go after all, there will be a huge test case and if it goes the way of the companies expect the fansubbers to back off, because they don't really care about the fans, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple groups doing one show, there wouldn't be fansub groups that just steal the Crunchyroll subs and bloom them, for the fans died when dattebayo got popular. |
May 30, 2009 11:13 PM
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mitamaking said: This is the straw that broke the camels back, once they go after one they will go after all, there will be a huge test case and if it goes the way of the companies expect the fansubbers to back off, because they don't really care about the fans, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple groups doing one show, there wouldn't be fansub groups that just steal the Crunchyroll subs and bloom them, for the fans died when dattebayo got popular. I'll believe it when it happens. RIAA and MPAA etc haven't made a dent in piracy and digital sharing in the US or anywhere else, why do you think fansubs will suddenly die because of one leaked episode which is actually entirely Funimation's fault for breaching their security contract? |
May 31, 2009 9:56 AM
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Loverhina said: I want Capellabun to respond because she tickles me much=p ? If you're expecting me to argue that it's not Funimation's fault for not taking better secure measures then I'm really sorry to disappoint you. Fact still is that someone still bothered to leak it and now the simulcast for One Piece is over. As far as I know, from more recent news, they seem to be taking measures to hopefully secure their videos more. Asako said: mitamaking said: This is actually very bad for fansubs too, for so long fansubs have been skirting being legal or not, now someone has jumped in and actually stole unreleased materials, and Toei is pissed. Toei is going to start going after these people now, I think fansubs might come to an end because of this, or at least some will end up in prison. And we still won't get legal streams, it is very wrong that one person might have begun the end of anime. Way to overdramatise it. Sure Toei may go after some people, but it won't dent the fansub community in the slightest. I have to agree with Asako. Toei probably isn't going to start going out and attacking fansubbers and if they do it will probably have little effect on them as a whole. Honestly, I think the only thing Toei is doing at the moment is reconsidering simulcasting or perhaps a better way of doing it. |
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May 31, 2009 1:20 PM
#46
Heh |
May 31, 2009 1:25 PM
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May 31, 2009 9:46 PM
#49
ntHai said: Lulzin b4 WWIII But it's really a damn shame. Stimulcasts are getting popular and since it was happening to One Piece I was happy for it thinking this'll make Funimation dub the rest of the show (even though I don't watch it). There'll always be fansubs at least. We all know if a fansub goes down there will always be another one. |
May 31, 2009 10:13 PM
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This is friggin hillarious. According to some sources on the web, so-called security of the videos on the Funimation website was non-existant for the long time. Instead of taking the blame and firing the admin responsible they take it out on 'omg we're hax000red 11one!!elefven'. It clearly shows how the media people in the U.S. react. When some time ago quite a few minutes of unaired Code Geass R2 episode was leaked they quickly deleted the vid from YT and apologized to the community. And of course staff responsible for the screwup was somehow affected. The crime here is to distribute the unaired episode and not downloading an unsecured file. Admin must be someone's grandparent with knowledge of Solitaire if (s)he can't even set appropriate CHMOD to protect file from accessing by unauthorized people. |
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