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Dec 10, 2007 1:11 PM
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Yeah totally thought Touji died. I mean, that dummy plug eva demolished eva3 and the entry plug O_O

I'm sure if commander Ikari had his way, he'd switch all the pilots with those dummy plugs >_>
Mar 2, 2008 2:24 PM
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Yeah, this is quite a hard-hitting episode! I was so glad that Toji didn't die, though! :/
Jun 12, 2008 8:15 PM
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Fuck yeah...

This episode = Pure ownge...

Nothing more to say except...

NEXT EPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Jul 31, 2008 4:52 PM
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Wow, the use of the dummy plugs on the Evas might be even more fearful than an Angel itself. Thought Touji was pretty much a goner too after that obliteration. Great episode.
Aug 6, 2008 11:25 PM
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i may be a horrible person, but i was actually expecting touji to die.... i mean, they even put so much attention on him, and the mood was so depressing.... well, shinji still went crazy at the end...

dummy plugs = eva out of control?
still makes me wonder why the eva is a copy of adam, and why it has bloody teeth....

i demand more asuka...
Aug 10, 2008 11:47 AM
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Wow totally disappointed in this episode. It was a cop out in letting Touki die, I mean they even showed him destroying the entry plug and Shinji being such a wuss during this episode was ridiculous.

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Sep 2, 2008 5:36 AM
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First of all: I have to thank Gainax for using proper English.

Shinji is pretty much crazed right now. Wonder why he'd still pilot a Eva. Katsuragi doesn't understand him at all. Maybe he could've actually fought with Eva 03 if he knew that Touji was piloting him - to rescue him of course.

Is it just me or does the teacher always say the same things?
Oct 21, 2008 5:19 AM
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Holy crap, what an episode.
Touji didn't die, what a surprise :O
Nov 25, 2008 7:35 PM
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I'm surprised Touji lived after being demolished by Eva...
Nov 30, 2008 1:11 PM

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aero said:
Holy crap, what an episode.
Touji didn't die, what a surprise :O


indeed

WOW Commander Ikari sure doesn't care about anyone, the demolishing was outstanding XD
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Jan 5, 2009 8:36 PM

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That was quite a bloody episode..thought Touji was a goner also.

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Yeah, Touji's not dead after having his entry plug broken in half? I was thinking that Shinji was gonna do something crazy and somehow override the dummy plug and stop at the last minute.
Jul 26, 2009 4:59 PM

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Even if Touji survives, that guy's not going to be mentally sound. So...par for the course, given the cast of this show. :P
Aug 8, 2009 10:34 PM

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Shinji = Pussbag
Aug 9, 2009 8:31 PM
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controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.
Aug 12, 2009 1:55 PM

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zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.


Most 14 year old children aren't as insecure and self-destructing as Shinji.
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controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.


Most 14 year old children aren't as insecure and self-destructing as Shinji.


Most children haven't had a shitty childhood and aren't forced to pilot an eva. I think just about any child would act similar to Shinji if given the same circumstances.
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zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.


Most 14 year old children aren't as insecure and self-destructing as Shinji.


Most children haven't had a shitty childhood and aren't forced to pilot an eva. I think just about any child would act similar to Shinji if given the same circumstances.
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zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.


Most 14 year old children aren't as insecure and self-destructing as Shinji.


Most children haven't had a shitty childhood and aren't forced to pilot an eva. I think just about any child would act similar to Shinji if given the same circumstances.


So how exactly is Shinji a normal 14 year old child?

Think about what you're saying.

Plus, Shinji wasn't forced to pilot anything. He was given numerous opportunities to leave, but refused to do so because he's an idiot who doesn't know what he wants.
Aug 25, 2009 11:59 PM

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Great episode. My god, I feel for Shinji.
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Oct 13, 2009 11:01 AM

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What...the fuck.
If I'm right (and I must be, seeing that Rei had felt it when the arm was cut off), Touji felt all of it. ALL of the freaking carnage show.
And mind you, Shinji didn't know that it was Touji, while Touji knew it was Shinji sitting there. Which basically gives you:
- being chosen as the one who's gonna pilot a freaky semi-living mecha
- having said mecha possessed (first time using it)
- unwillingly destroying half of the city
- numbing pain in every little part of your body, as another freaky semi-living mecha rips yours to shreds
- realization of the fact that it's your friend that's ripping you apart.
God damn it. Talk about bad luck.
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What...the fuck.
If I'm right (and I must be, seeing that Rei had felt it when the arm was cut off), Touji felt all of it. ALL of the freaking carnage show.
And mind you, Shinji didn't know that it was Touji, while Touji knew it was Shinji sitting there. Which basically gives you:
- being chosen as the one who's gonna pilot a freaky semi-living mecha
- having said mecha possessed (first time using it)
- unwillingly destroying half of the city
- numbing pain in every little part of your body, as another freaky semi-living mecha rips yours to shreds
- realization of the fact that it's your friend that's ripping you apart.
God damn it. Talk about bad luck.


After seeing that scene I just thought "damn if that guy survives he's gonna be the next Darth Vader!"

This was an AMAZING episode, very intense.

This series is becoming so violent on so many levels... I'm not talking about graphic violence here, I'm talking about the disturbing events those kids are going through... what makes NGE so frightening is how it manages to make it look so freaking real.
Nov 9, 2009 5:07 PM

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I understand how Shinji feels... I wouldn't be able to kill somebody, regardless of the situation. Very dramatic episode.
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controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.


Most 14 year old children aren't as insecure and self-destructing as Shinji.


Most children haven't had a shitty childhood and aren't forced to pilot an eva. I think just about any child would act similar to Shinji if given the same circumstances.


So how exactly is Shinji a normal 14 year old child?

Think about what you're saying.

Plus, Shinji wasn't forced to pilot anything. He was given numerous opportunities to leave, but refused to do so because he's an idiot who doesn't know what he wants.


He was fine for the last several episodes, until he was trapped in a fucking black hole inside a living mecha for 16 hours, then tripped out and saw his dead mother plus a lot of fucked up shit. THEN saw his own living mecha going berserk, mutilating and dismembering another living mecha that had one of his classmates inside.
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controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
zarwin said:
controlmajortom said:
Shinji = Pussbag


Shinji=Normal 14 year old child.


Most 14 year old children aren't as insecure and self-destructing as Shinji.


Most children haven't had a shitty childhood and aren't forced to pilot an eva. I think just about any child would act similar to Shinji if given the same circumstances.


So how exactly is Shinji a normal 14 year old child?

Think about what you're saying.

Plus, Shinji wasn't forced to pilot anything. He was given numerous opportunities to leave, but refused to do so because he's an idiot who doesn't know what he wants.

Exactly. Shinji really is a little pussbag. I'm also pretty sure he could have subdued the angel without killing the pilot. I mean, look at what the dummy system did and Touji still survived. He needs to man up.
Dec 29, 2009 8:41 PM
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As far as intense action goes in this series, this episode takes the cake. Also, the "massacre" scene was pretty chilling and all around excellently done.
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WT*?? O.o

Shinji's father is an...! Argh! I've never thought that an EVA would bleed so much!

Just one word for this episode: gory
Jan 28, 2010 3:35 PM

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Toji can do whatever he wants for all I care. I don't like his character anyway...

And Rei cares for Shinji <3
Apr 23, 2010 11:19 AM
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Wow. Traumatic. Wasn't that supposed to be Rei's personality in the dummy plug? I really think that EVA-01 crushed that entry plug so badly no one could have survived, but that might be just a little bit too mean.

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This series is becoming so violent on so many levels... I'm not talking about graphic violence here, I'm talking about the disturbing events those kids are going through... what makes NGE so frightening is how it manages to make it look so freaking real.


I've had that feeling since the first episode, this was a really hard hitting episode. I was sure Toji was gonna die. But of a copout :(
May 11, 2010 11:13 AM
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What...the fuck.
If I'm right (and I must be, seeing that Rei had felt it when the arm was cut off), Touji felt all of it. ALL of the freaking carnage show.
And mind you, Shinji didn't know that it was Touji, while Touji knew it was Shinji sitting there. Which basically gives you:
- being chosen as the one who's gonna pilot a freaky semi-living mecha
- having said mecha possessed (first time using it)
- unwillingly destroying half of the city
- numbing pain in every little part of your body, as another freaky semi-living mecha rips yours to shreds
- realization of the fact that it's your friend that's ripping you apart.
God damn it. Talk about bad luck.


Might be a long time, since you posted.

But EVA03 REJECTED (or the nerv impulses reversed, dunno exactley )Touji, so there was no nerve connenction, thus he didn't feel any of the EVA mutilation.
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How is his body not mangled beyond human recognition...?
May 29, 2010 8:34 AM

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What...the fuck.
If I'm right (and I must be, seeing that Rei had felt it when the arm was cut off), Touji felt all of it. ALL of the freaking carnage show.
And mind you, Shinji didn't know that it was Touji, while Touji knew it was Shinji sitting there. Which basically gives you:
- being chosen as the one who's gonna pilot a freaky semi-living mecha
- having said mecha possessed (first time using it)
- unwillingly destroying half of the city
- numbing pain in every little part of your body, as another freaky semi-living mecha rips yours to shreds
- realization of the fact that it's your friend that's ripping you apart.
God damn it. Talk about bad luck.


Might be a long time, since you posted.

But EVA03 REJECTED (or the nerv impulses reversed, dunno exactley )Touji, so there was no nerve connenction, thus he didn't feel any of the EVA mutilation.

THANK GOD YOU SAID THAT. I regained a little bit of my sanity.
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That was gross.
Jul 25, 2010 1:54 PM

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I seriously thought that Touji died, I almost cried....
Very intense ending, I loved this episode~
Jul 31, 2010 11:59 AM

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That was an intense, hard hitting episode. This series is just getting better.
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lol mechas bleeding and moving like a normal human.Anyway, good episode, could have been 100x better if they didn't "tell" us who was the 4th child and if he was actually killed during that "bloody" fight.

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lol at you thinking they are mechas when they are not.
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The only episode that REALLY caught my attention. Alot of NGE is really uneventful for me, to be honest....
Aug 24, 2010 9:33 PM

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Fuck man such an intense episode.

I knew the pilot was Touji but I didn't know that Eva-03 would go run amok. I feel sorry for Shinji just because noone told him who the pilot was. I mean Asuka tried to inform him several times but she always gets interupted. Misato didn't inform him either. I mean I would go berserk if someone really close to me was inside of that cockpit and noone told me about it.

Let me tell you one thing. The dummy plug sure did its job. I mean it destroyed the enemy without mercy. I guess that's what the NERV wanted all along. An Evangelion who doesn't have mercy and always follow orders.
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First of all: I have to thank Gainax for using proper English.

Shinji is pretty much crazed right now. Wonder why he'd still pilot a Eva. Katsuragi doesn't understand him at all. Maybe he could've actually fought with Eva 03 if he knew that Touji was piloting him - to rescue him of course.

Is it just me or does the teacher always say the same things?


Yeah, all they talk about at school is the Second Impact and its consequences. It's like they only have history lessons and nothing ever existed before the Second Impact...

I thought Touji was dead. It was still a pretty brutal episode. Shiji, seeing all of that happen without being able to do anything... And what will Touji think if his memory is alright? I mean, he knew that it was Shinji inside Unit-01...

One more thing: Doesn't the dummy plug have Rei's personality? Pretty scary o.o
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The dummy plug is supposed to have Rei's personality.
But I hope it was encoded on before Rei started getting all emotional and disobeying orders now.

Otherwise, I see Shinji and EVA-01 going berserk next episode.
You know, the berserk with the blackouts and the, "Ohh no, not this ceiling again" berserk.
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A truly amazing episode! I felt so sorry for Suzuhara... And Shinji... But if I were Shinji I'd try to get to Unit's 03 entry plug, take it out and destroy the Eva. But it could've been impossible to even hurt it without that fu***ing dummy plug...
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Oh man, the carnage in those last scenes was insane. I was definitely grimacing when Shinji (or rather Eva 01) was tearing 03 to pieces, and considering that pain is transferred directly to Touji...shit. HUGE amounts of blood too, enough to dye the entire river red o.o And of course, it cuts to Hikari in the end who's still happy and oblivious to everything that's going on. I feel so bad for her T.T

This episode confirms that Gendou Ikari is one giant asshole who'd probably use dummy plugs over actual pilots all the time if he could, and also that Shinji REALLY needs to man up. He could've tried fighting 03, and considering Touji was still alive after having his entry plug crushed, Shinji could've easily subdued the unit without doing nearly as much damage as the dummy controlled Eva.

Can't wait to see how this all resolves. Easily 5/5
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That was an um...interesting episode.
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How the fuck did Touji survive that massacre?

And yes, Shinji confirmed as major pussbag.
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Fuck man such an intense episode.

I knew the pilot was Touji but I didn't know that Eva-03 would go run amok. I feel sorry for Shinji just because noone told him who the pilot was. I mean Asuka tried to inform him several times but she always gets interupted. Misato didn't inform him either. I mean I would go berserk if someone really close to me was inside of that cockpit and noone told me about it.

Let me tell you one thing. The dummy plug sure did its job. I mean it destroyed the enemy without mercy. I guess that's what the NERV wanted all along. An Evangelion who doesn't have mercy and always follow orders.

Especially now that their precious Rei has been tainted by human emotions.

I'm totally not getting any of your guys logic on Shini being a "Pussbag"
He doesn't want to kill humans....fucking duh. This isn't Gundam. He hasn't been killing humans since his first fight.
That was his first encounter against a human enemy and I'm sure deep inside Shinji knew who the pilot was. Since he isn't exactly a dumb kid.

I liked how Rei could have taken down Unit Three but was stopped by her pesky newfound human emotions. Character development I quite frankly wasn't expecting.

Penguins would have been a better choice to pilot Unit Three.
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God, I remember this episode from when I first saw.....8 FRICKIN YEARS AGO.

Intense. This is the Eva I remember. Can't wait to see the "ending" again.
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Whoa whoa. Poor Shinji.

I thought Touji was dead for a second. ;_;
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Moonfrost said:
Fuck man such an intense episode.

I knew the pilot was Touji but I didn't know that Eva-03 would go run amok. I feel sorry for Shinji just because noone told him who the pilot was. I mean Asuka tried to inform him several times but she always gets interupted. Misato didn't inform him either. I mean I would go berserk if someone really close to me was inside of that cockpit and noone told me about it.

Let me tell you one thing. The dummy plug sure did its job. I mean it destroyed the enemy without mercy. I guess that's what the NERV wanted all along. An Evangelion who doesn't have mercy and always follow orders.

Especially now that their precious Rei has been tainted by human emotions.

I'm totally not getting any of your guys logic on Shini being a "Pussbag"
He doesn't want to kill humans....fucking duh. This isn't Gundam. He hasn't been killing humans since his first fight.
That was his first encounter against a human enemy and I'm sure deep inside Shinji knew who the pilot was. Since he isn't exactly a dumb kid.


My exact thoughts, I mean shinji is only human for me its natural not wanting to kill another human being (if it wasn't like that he would really have issues...) and the fact that HE IS 14 YEARS OLD dammit all those ppl calling him "pussbag" its because they really haven't got a clue of the suffering and experiences shinji might have try to put yourself in his place, talking is cheap you know...
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