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wdlkmpx said: This is one of most retarded shows I've ever seen. It combines stupid harem-ecchi-moe elements with horror. In the end the plot was left completely aside. Harem lovers rejoice. I don't understand how this atrocity is so popular. When I think of horror animes, this is one of the worst I can think of. Get over yourself |
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kramXD said: B****** please why not harem route? harem route is life I agree. They already fucked the story with this ending, so why not go all the way? |
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| That was awesome. Wanta <333 |
| I was actually wondering if they gonna pull a Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood style reboot that goes with the manga. I think this Elfen Lied is good at the beginning but it pretty much went downhill in the middle towards the end. |
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kramXD said: Meisian said: I agree with most of what you speculated. I was thinking the same thing, except for the part where Kouta and Yuta ends up getting married. I think what Kouta with Lucy had was more than just a strong friendship/father-daughter relationship. If I remember correctly, Kouta did mention to Lucy that he liked her. Even though Yuka's character had a motherly, house wife kind of role, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me that she's the one Kouta marries But then I could be being biased since I'm a bigger fan of Lucy than Yuka. B****** please why not harem route? harem route is life Really felt a bit depressed after watching in one sitting the whole series... The final left an uneasiness on my heart which really bothers me. These comments cured that stuff a bit. I believe it's most likely a harem ending by the way it was presented. I love to believe that Lucy is alive and living with Kouta. Because otherwise, those guys will search for Nana and Kouta, and Lucy letting herself be killed will put them in danger. What's the most probable reason the show ended like that: The studio was expecting to make a second season. The director saying that it's only the beginning; that woman stuffing Kouta's picture in her pocket; kinda really say that they wanted to continue this. Lucy appearing at the door, but not really being revealed was a way for the authors to excite viewers and make them wait painfully. Overall the anime was nice. However, I was waiting the whole show for a Kouta&Lucy moment and I didn't get it. The scene from the final episode doesn't cover that , because Lucy is implying that it's all over for them and that sh*t makes me feel uneasy and sad. A lot of people say that sad endings are the most memorable, but I disagree. With a song like "Baby, I wanna be your girl" as the ending credits this show ought to have had a closed happy ending with more romantic moments with Lucy. All I saw was Kouta constantly searching the city for someone... |
| Not as enjoyable as Akame ga Kill, meh. |
| The ending was ambiguous and aside the last 2 episodes the events were rather silent (having like only 2 songs per episode). Even so I liked it. It was very exciting to follow the story and find more and more info about the Elfen Lied world, about the characters, about their past and the motives behind their actions. I also liked that this show wasn't afraid to show disturbing events in order to involve us emotionally in the story and to make us understand better the characters. The gore was also a good point (after all injuries are not made only by scratches and punches). All those things did a great job compensating for the lack of OST. What I didn't like about this anime was the art style. Also some of the characters were so despicable or so dumb that I wouldn't mind seeing them dead. Something I found interesting is that the anime reminded me of Half-Life 2, for some reason. Maybe because of the lack of soundtrack. Or because of the gore. Anyways, after I finished Elfen Lied I had a similar feeling of fulfillment with the feeling I had after finishing the game, which was great :D Overall, I really enjoyed this anime. Maybe I'll start reading the manga one day. |
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| Well... I guess objectively it was a good show, but it was just not my genre. Or that kind of characters I enjoy in general. 4/10 |
| Lucy or Nyuu? I'm not sure... Maybe dead? No... I don't know anymore... But I like this anime, especially that opening... I won't forget that opening! I enjoyed watching it, even if it's just 13 episodes long. |
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Vahriel said: I finshed watching Elfen Lied last night, and i think it's the greatest anime ever, if i had this and Blood+ i can live forever off of it, anyway, about the ending... Because I didn't quite understand it i went to Wiki to take a quick look at various things that they have said. Now it was said on there that when a Diclonii looses both horns they are stuck in a comatose state forever, i higly doubt this though, because it needed citation and in the Manga Lucy looses both her horns and they regrow, or are on the eventual path to regeneration. The Manga has a much more definite end to the series, I mean I'm not gonna give it away or anything, but, Its defiently more conclusive than the anime is. Now my interpretation of the clock and the music box, and something that has yet to be discussed from what i could see, Wanta. Now it has been noted that Wanta growls at Lucy in the anime, but it fine around Nyu, and when the silhoutte is at the door, Wanta is very cheerful and wants to see the silhoutte (hes pulling on his leashe) Now, as described earlier, the Music Box is a direct refrence to Lucy, but not to Nyu, when Nyu hears the song, it taps into her Lucy personality (early in the series) so, to me, it maintains that Lilium is only relevent to Lucy, and when it suddenly stops, Wether or not the silhoutte is Lucy or not, i think it removes the sadistic nature of Lucy/Nyu. And finally, the clock getting fixed and working, as noted, Nyu was working on the clock, and even though her first time proved unsuccessful, I think it eludes to her 2nd try being sucessful, but why does it work just at the time a silhoutte comes to the door, that i elude to once again, the recognising of a memorable person of the house coming back. Now, I'm going to just assume the silhoutte is Lucy/Nyu and I blieve that it is Lucy, not Nyu at the door, but, Like in the anime, Lucy puts back her sadistic side and stops killing ( well for a little while :O ) but because the anime in concised, they couldnt get into that much detail with the plot (eluding to the fact i want a 2nd series but anyway). Everything that related with her sadism, hate towards humans and what not has been alieviated and she can be empathetic with humans and enjoy their company, and live with them and what not (as long as nobody goes crazy as hell on her :P ) But then again, how did she survive the army, and will they ever stop chasing her? Probably not, so, quite possibly she could sacrafice herself for the good of her friends, a throwing up of her vectors certainly wont stop any bullets, unless the soliders were flying -.-; If this is the case i think it has a similar ending to the manga in which Kohta actually meets 2 other people, without giving anything away, you can look up who he meets on Wiki. So, wether she sarcaficed herself for the good of her friends, after feeling empathetic with the humans and Nana. Or wether she did survive that hellish attack and decided to live with Kohta at the Inn once again, is unknown and up to our interpretation, I think that's what the writers we're trying to do, like the end of every good book or movie, your always left with wanting more, and I blieve that the writers have done a magnificent job on this anime. P.S I had an idea :O Nana says "I have to get home" as she is walking up the steps to the Inn, and is contrasted with Lucy's final stand, what could that mean - i believe that has some signifigant meaning... so far from off the top of my head, all i can gather about that is Nana has to escape the same fate as Lucy (following if she did sacrafice herself) and be safe. But, I'm sure it goes a lot more deep that that - if you guys have any idea, please share, I'm going to think about it really hard and see what more i can come up with... Thanks for listening to my suggestions :) Rufusruferson/Para-Mount~ I loved this post but it's too bad you don't seem to have taken into account the thing about the Director, revealing himself to be a Diclonius as well. I originally intended to write a really deliberate post concluding the entire series, but now in light of those interpretations I think I'll refrain. Other than that, it is a pretty great anime. Perhaps not the best in history, but certainly very worthwhile. |
| I just finished this anime, and all I've got to say is: |
MMiyamotoAug 7, 2015 5:47 PM
| Semi happy ending? I'm glad nana is alive but Lucy I don't know... I feel like she died but that ending showed us that she might still be alive. Well anyway it was a great anime! |
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| The Ending was just ... sad. All of this emotion ... I hope in a return. I want to read the manga and hope lucy will be there and ... have her love story. just this unconditional love .... |
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| Damn this has been one hell of a feels train....finally finished it. As to the ending ...well it really is open to interpretation ...it was left like that cause it left it ambiguous enough so that the audience would be the one to how to see the ending ...it was done in a way that a lot of the scenario's people interpret could fit without compromising the other. I also know of the ending..and the one common element that is present in both of them despite not being the same...is it was a little left open of what Lucy's fate would be.... both of them showed them she would die...and yet..there was hope she might comeback in some form or another. So in the end it really is up to each individual to see how events ended up. I like it.....the animation was the real downer ..i know it has been more than a decade since it aired...but there were other better animated series that came out that year..so the animation could have been better. The soundtrack while lacking...is powerful ..particularly the opening intro..man that does realy really fits with this tone of the series...nearly in every situation you hear some type of version of it and it scares you how it well it fits in each one. A very emotional impact full driven show...i can see why it is very popular....9/10 in the end. it was a fun(depressing) show. |
| This was very Beautiful, very beautiful indeed. I really wanna know what happened exactly. I'm glad that Nana didn't die. Oh the feels. This is sad and beautiful and I cried. |
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| Not a terrible ending. It was certainly very emotional :'( While I don't exactly enjoy watching people die, I was satisfied with how Kurama ended up. He was finally able to rid himself of the guilt of killing others' daughters yet not his own, and he doesn't have to deal with the guilt of killing his daughter after all. Kind of a bad deal for his daughter though. I feel kinda empty though. Why did Lucy not kill the macho guy (Blanking on the name, but the guy who had to have surgery) even when she didn't snap back into Nyu mode? And what even happened to him at the end? Why did Lucy almost die after having her horn broken off then regain consciousness so quickly? What's going to happen to all the other diclonius that are born or will be born? Overall I feel like a lot of issues were only partially resolved. So this wasn't a bad anime, but it wasn't really outstanding. I really enjoyed the setting and ost, and (most of) the characters weren't bad (Yuka was annoying for a lot of the show). For the most part, I enjoyed it, but it didn't really ever WOW! me. Also, at times it was really disturbing or hard to watch. Also I felt like there were a lot of flaws, such as puerile getting seriously injured and then 5 seconds later having all the pain gone and the blood washed away. Yet despite these flaws, I still liked it. 7/10 from me. |
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| This was the only good episode in the whole series . |
| Whew, finally done. This show was shitty. The violence was ridiculous rather than scary, the story was boring and the characters were retarded. 2/5 for the episode, bouncing between a 2/10 or 3/10 rating for the show, but I'll rate it 3/10 for now. |
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| never thought that i would see a show even more overrated than sao or nge...like wtf did i just watch. I think the person who wrote this story based nyu character on his own persona This was just plain garbage...not even debatable |
| Definitely an interesting plot but good golly, but I think there was more crying than Clannad to the point it's a bit excessive. Also, there's still a lot of questions unanswered, especially for the guy with the sunglasses and the director. There are cases where the plot flows too conveniently. For example, when lucy attacked Mayu and gave a huge clean X marked scratch on her back because Lucy was "hungry and irritated", any normal person would have been suspicious. Even if the person were to attack, someone who is irritated is not likely to make double knife cuts to the back. But the boy just shrugged it off like it's no big deal. It's true that he is somewhat naive, but it's too unrealistic. He just had to remember everything at the end conveniently. I don't understand why the SAT would continue to try shooting when it clearly doesn't work. Basically, they're asking themselves to die. Should have at least tried different weapons or methods. Rate this 6/10 |
HikariJake said: Your post is here, so I'll respond to it (sorry for being such a bother): why the hell would you give the show a 2/10 or a 3/10... if you literally rated every damn episode a 2/5 (aka a 4/10)? I just don't see the logic to this. Meh, number ratings are dumb either way. I rate shows like this: 1/5 is the equivalent of 1-2 out of 10, 2/5 is the equivalent of 3-4 out of 10, etc. In this case, I was rating the episodes a 'low' 2/5. I rated episode 1 a 1/5 anyway, and if I rated shows the way you suggested, then every odd-numbered numerical rating would go unused. For me, a rating of 4/10 means that it doesn't have really anything going for it, but the negatives don't affect the show enough to make it any worse than inoffensively boring. Harmless fluff, basically. Or, in some cases, I rate it like that because of its flaws, but it's not bad enough for me to look at it with much disdain. I judge shows based on the quality of the content as a whole, rather than on the quality of its individual episodes, and I rate shows lower if they have pervasive problems throughout that make the show annoying to watch, rather than boring. For instance, I rated most Nisekoi episodes 2/5, but I rated the show 3/10 because the unlikability of the characters was, in my opinion, a pervasive problem. In the case of Elfen Lied, I rated it 3/10 because I felt the show overused shock value and characters being retarded, and those were its pervasive problems. And sometimes, I just have different opinions when it comes to the value of certain shows as I'm watching, and after I finish watching. That's why I rated Attack on Titan 7/10 upon finishing it, and later changed my rating to 6/10. Opinions change. |
D-ohnutsApr 26, 2016 7:39 PM
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| Can't say I liked the ending. Too much unnecessary drama, and I'm not 100% sure what exactly happened at the end. The beginning of this anime was rather good, but it went downhill in the middle. If I had found the ending as good as the beginning, I would've rated it highter. I thought I'd give it a 5, but I'll give it a 6 since there were some memorable scenes. |
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| I am sooooo disappointed...i was expecting way more from this anime. |
| The ending was great, but i hope Lucy didn't died. |
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| I'm so glad i found this anime, it was truly a masterpiece (atleast for me). 10/10 |
| Great series Although the open end... |
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| Damn that ending... Poor Nana loosing her dad, also feeling sad for Mariko, in the end she just wanted to see her real parents, at least she met her father. |
| just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it? |
| Beautiful anime and there's uncertainty in the ending but having Kohta and Lucy talk to each other, that part was great. |
| Well the ending was kinda strange but as I saw I think Lucy survived and killed all the organization, I felt so sad for Kurama and 35 poor girl I don't even know her name, All of the girls had a really sad past. |
| Not a bad show overall though I hated a good portion of the characters *cough* Kouta and Yuka *cough* and that ending is just "???????!!!!!!!!!!" Anyways, 7/10 for Lucy and sad Kurama & Mariko scene. |
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| Finally got around to binge that "gem", and what can I say - w/o any exaggeration, this is the most abysmal shit I've touched in a long time! Nothing makes sense, noone acts logical, as if that sad excuse for a plot wasn't horrible enough it's so friggin' convenient and predictable that it physically hurts etc. - just stupid harem, gore/nudity and looots of cliché and tropes. A trainwreck like School Days at least had the decency to go out with a bang... |
| Finally finished it! Overall this was an awesome show. This episode was fairly good. Only thing I hated was the Lucy Khouta scene, it made absolutely zero sense after Khouta learned that she killed his sister and father. Easily the biggest flaw in the entire show and it completely teared down the Lucy Kouta story line and made it totally obsolete. Khouta should have been very angry at Lucy and then Lucy somehow dies and permanently becomes Nyu or something. I created my own head cannon for what happens at the end between Lucy and Khouta, basically Khouta gets really angry at Lucy and never meets her and Lucy realizes she doesn't want to live anymore and goes on the bridge and gets killed. But ignoring that, the rest of the show was awesome. The music was top notch and some parts of this show made me emotional. I really liked Mayu and Nana, their scenes were some of the best. Bando was an ass at first but I grew to like him more as well. The ending was awkward and could have been way better handled IMO but I mainly liked the beginning and middle parts and seeing the build up. The last 2 episodes were mediocre at best, I hear the manga had a better ending. I'm excited to start the manga and learn more about the overall story and characters. I'm going to take a long time to read the manga, I want to stretch all 12 volumes over the next year or so, to forget some parts of the anime so I can reread it in the manga. This show was really good, ending was really weak and should have been different, but the rest of the show was brilliant and so brutal and raw. Music was so beautiful and I love how it was set in a small beach town. Awesome anime. |
Platinum-PalaceAug 29, 2017 6:05 PM
| The afternoon has gently passed me by The evening spreads its sail against the sky Waiting for tomorrow Just another day God bid yesterday goodbye... |
| There won't be a season 2. Anyway, here's a rushed half assed spoiler: At the end, with the clock ticking, that's Lucy coming through the door. At the ENDDDDDDDDDDD (manga) after the clock scene and so much shit happening, Lucy dies. (But in a good way) The mc and his cousin have kids and they visit Lucy grave or some shit. But Lucy dies AT THE END so trust me, her and mc have a lot of memories and shit. Lucy dies for the greater cause or some shit. Her and MC have one last kiss and sht. Happy ending imo. |
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