Elfen Lied Episode 13 Discussion
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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 488 | 75.31% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 103 | 15.90% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 32 | 4.94% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 11 | 1.70% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 14 | 2.16% |
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#-39
12-27-08, 10:15 PM
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And so, it ends. This was the BEST episode, for me! XD 10/10 for me. XD And it leaves us the feeling that something's gonna happen later on. I have a lot of unanswered questions as well. XD Awesome ending for an awesome anime! XD   |
#-38
01-01-09, 4:18 PM
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WHOA, this ending gave me the chills!! O_O I mean, not the whole episode, but the ENDING of it!! XD  |
#-37
01-02-09, 11:16 AM
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I quite liked this anime. Not my favorite ever, but probably the best I've seen overall. Overall I give the series a 9/10, just because I wish they would have made it longer and explored more of the manga plot. But at the same time I did like the unique way it ended. |
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01-09-09, 1:18 PM
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i loved this show, and I'm glad the number 35 girl is gone, since she was annoying and a brat <img src="http://oi41.tinypic.com/1zf0hhk.png" /> |
#-35
01-17-09, 2:04 PM
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From what I can tell, Lucy died at that bridge,she let herself do so. the horn flying just was a way of showing just that. the bolw had to do with that they didn't want to let go of her memory right away. And about the ending,the clock and the playbox had some supernatural meaning, wich also may have something to do with the shadow of a person(wich most likely supposed to be Lucy's appearance) on the other side of the outer gate. deep ending I suppose,but I liked it. similar ending to most anime. there were questions left out,but it kinda do fill you with the hope of that there, sometime in the future will be a 2nd season of this. |
#-34
01-18-09, 9:47 AM
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I have absolutely no idea what to make of this episode, it was great but wtf |
#-33
01-19-09, 10:28 PM
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Incredible, this anime is incrideble. New ideas, new situation, new to me at last.... Very good Ending really means NYuu coming back, since : -Music box stoped (end of the connection with lucy) -Big ben started (repaired by Nyuu) -Same shape Guzen ? nai, desho!      |
#-32
01-21-09, 4:14 PM
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Yep incredible anime. Not a 10/10 imo but a very decent 9/10. I loved the open ending simply because it makes me think more about the show to try and decipher answers from the questions which the ending brought up. IMO: Nyuu is the person at the door at the very end of the show. Why else would the music box stop working and the clock start working? The music box first of all basically signifies Kohta's past with Nyuu/Lucy and their personal connection. The clock was what Nyuu wanted to fix throughout the show but couldn't, why is it that it starts working exactly when "someone" randomly shows up on Kohta's doorstep? It isn't all a coincidence. Nyuu/Lucy is alive and along with Kohta they will all live happily ever after in the Kanae house. The reason they didn't actually show this in the anime itself is because its called ELFEN LIED, its meant to be sad and depressing and a happily after ending would never fit. -- Well thats my personal take on the ending, it's just something I would like to believe happened lol =). |
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03-09-09, 3:07 PM
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Manifest said: Yep incredible anime. Not a 10/10 imo but a very decent 9/10. I loved the open ending simply because it makes me think more about the show to try and decipher answers from the questions which the ending brought up. IMO: Nyuu is the person at the door at the very end of the show. Why else would the music box stop working and the clock start working? The music box first of all basically signifies Kohta's past with Nyuu/Lucy and their personal connection. The clock was what Nyuu wanted to fix throughout the show but couldn't, why is it that it starts working exactly when "someone" randomly shows up on Kohta's doorstep? It isn't all a coincidence. Nyuu/Lucy is alive and along with Kohta they will all live happily ever after in the Kanae house. The reason they didn't actually show this in the anime itself is because its called ELFEN LIED, its meant to be sad and depressing and a happily after ending would never fit. -- Well thats my personal take on the ending, it's just something I would like to believe happened lol =). I have to concur, seems convincing that that would be a plausible reason. I thought it was a great series and a great way to end it.      |
#-30
03-10-09, 8:28 PM
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Even though in the end they just leave you hanging there it's actually really good. ha can't beleive I cried xD I think lucy did live though because if you do remember, the clock started to work. so I think that was a sign that she was back. :D I don't want a second season to be made though because I think it'd ruin the beauty of the first season. D: |
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03-18-09, 1:29 AM
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I agree with Manifest. That's what I figured out too. Additionally, the horns breaking probably signifies that "Lucy" died, and the person who was actually at the doorstep was Nyuu. Like a rebirth of some kind. Obviously, the chairman (or whatever the old man with the horns' name is) is going to continue with his campaign of populating the world with dicloni and trying to either kill or capture Lucy, if he is able to do either would (probably) never be known. Also...I didn't really find Nyuu all that cute, rather annoying in fact, though the side of Lucy on this episode was simply charming. Annoyingly abrupt ending though. Just my two cents. |
#-28
03-20-09, 12:42 PM
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Awh this was a very good anime, I bawled the last 2 episodes. It was a good ending, so did Lucy come back? Im happy she and Kouta finally kissed, their relationship is too cute. The opening song is beautiful, too bad it was such a short anime. Blood. Gore. Nudity. Romance. Sounds good to me. I'd like tossing your salad.-"Yuru"/MMMKD DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM MOTHERFUCKER?-SophieWophie<3 |
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04-08-09, 12:36 AM
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Rufusruferson said: I finshed watching Elfen Lied last night, and i think it's the greatest anime ever, if i had this and Blood+ i can live forever off of it, anyway, about the ending... Because I didn't quite understand it i went to Wiki to take a quick look at various things that they have said. Now it was said on there that when a Diclonii looses both horns they are stuck in a comatose state forever, i higly doubt this though, because it needed citation and in the Manga Lucy looses both her horns and they regrow, or are on the eventual path to regeneration. The Manga has a much more definite end to the series, I mean I'm not gonna give it away or anything, but, Its defiently more conclusive than the anime is. Now my interpretation of the clock and the music box, and something that has yet to be discussed from what i could see, Wanta. Now it has been noted that Wanta growls at Lucy in the anime, but it fine around Nyu, and when the silhoutte is at the door, Wanta is very cheerful and wants to see the silhoutte (hes pulling on his leashe) Now, as described earlier, the Music Box is a direct refrence to Lucy, but not to Nyu, when Nyu hears the song, it taps into her Lucy personality (early in the series) so, to me, it maintains that Lilium is only relevent to Lucy, and when it suddenly stops, Wether or not the silhoutte is Lucy or not, i think it removes the sadistic nature of Lucy/Nyu. And finally, the clock getting fixed and working, as noted, Nyu was working on the clock, and even though her first time proved unsuccessful, I think it eludes to her 2nd try being sucessful, but why does it work just at the time a silhoutte comes to the door, that i elude to once again, the recognising of a memorable person of the house coming back. Now, I'm going to just assume the silhoutte is Lucy/Nyu and I blieve that it is Lucy, not Nyu at the door, but, Like in the anime, Lucy puts back her sadistic side and stops killing ( well for a little while :O ) but because the anime in concised, they couldnt get into that much detail with the plot (eluding to the fact i want a 2nd series but anyway). Everything that related with her sadism, hate towards humans and what not has been alieviated and she can be empathetic with humans and enjoy their company, and live with them and what not (as long as nobody goes crazy as hell on her :P ) But then again, how did she survive the army, and will they ever stop chasing her? Probably not, so, quite possibly she could sacrafice herself for the good of her friends, a throwing up of her vectors certainly wont stop any bullets, unless the soliders were flying -.-; If this is the case i think it has a similar ending to the manga in which Kohta actually meets 2 other people, without giving anything away, you can look up who he meets on Wiki. So, wether she sarcaficed herself for the good of her friends, after feeling empathetic with the humans and Nana. Or wether she did survive that hellish attack and decided to live with Kohta at the Inn once again, is unknown and up to our interpretation, I think that's what the writers we're trying to do, like the end of every good book or movie, your always left with wanting more, and I blieve that the writers have done a magnificent job on this anime. P.S I had an idea :O Nana says "I have to get home" as she is walking up the steps to the Inn, and is contrasted with Lucy's final stand, what could that mean - i believe that has some signifigant meaning... so far from off the top of my head, all i can gather about that is Nana has to escape the same fate as Lucy (following if she did sacrafice herself) and be safe. But, I'm sure it goes a lot more deep that that - if you guys have any idea, please share, I'm going to think about it really hard and see what more i can come up with... Thanks for listening to my suggestions :) Rufusruferson/Para-Mount~ You have very good points, and I agree, and your actually probably right. Though I see one more possibility...as I will state below the other quote. Cero said: mickal555 said: Though there are a fair few unanswered questions, what is that horned guy going to do? DId Lucy die? Looks like it, if so then who's that at the end? I liked it, but as you said there are a few unanswered questions. - Who was standing at the gate? - What is that psycho old man gonna do? - What are Kouta and the others gonna do now? - What did taking off Lucy's other horn do? - My personal question - Why did the OVA suck so much shit (fucking 10.5) - And where did Nyuu learn to fix a clock? O:< - What about that renegade SAT guy Lucy didn't kill? I'm thinking from what the first guy I quoted above said is that, Lucy/Nyuu is still alive. And they left this renegade alive so he can once again come and hunt down Lucy/Nyuu *Leaving a reason for a possible Season 2 to have a battle scene for* I also would like to think that the music box stopping would signal the "Old" Lucy dieing, and the clock that Nyuu was UNABLE to fix being the "New Lucy". Where maybe Lucy has survived, and will now give up on killing humans *Unless she has to*. Because as someone else stated...if it signal Lucy dieing, wouldn't it have stopped/started at night, when the battle happened? (Maybe the "New" Lucy moved it with her vectors? Or fixed it with her vectors...if she has any left after losing her horns?). At least that's what I hope for lol. Nyuu was great...but I liked Lucy more *Because she was "all there" in a way*. Just my thoughts. And +Plus, if those soldiers did kill Lucy, wouldn't see be dead dead? As in swiss cheese, take the body back as proof, bury 6-feet deep? I'm assuming with so many soldiers...and if she's giving up. She wouldn't run away, or they wouldn't just leave the body there. ImaginAsian said: Maybe the music box stopping signifies that Lucy is no more, but the clock starting up signifies that Nyuu has returned? It's been 5 years...maybe we should all right them and beg them for a season 2? This series gets a 9/10 from me. Only reason...I WANTED A HAPPY ENDING FOR ONCE (Usually I don't care). And...GREAT ANIME...so it being short SUCKED, because it leaves you wanting more :(. 9/10. Here's to hoping for Season 2 and a rap up to the cliff hanger! Modified by Fatentity, 04-08-09, 12:40 AM |
#-26
04-09-09, 5:09 AM
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Cero said: mickal555 said: Though there are a fair few unanswered questions, what is that horned guy going to do? DId Lucy die? Looks like it, if so then who's that at the end? I liked it, but as you said there are a few unanswered questions. - Who was standing at the gate? - What is that psycho old man gonna do? - What are Kouta and the others gonna do now? - What did taking off Lucy's other horn do? - My personal question - Why did the OVA suck so much shit (fucking 10.5) - And where did Nyuu learn to fix a clock? O:< The last episode shares almost nothing with the manga, therefore noone knows who stood at the gate. The old man wants to make a diclonious world if i remember correctly. Kouta is gonna fuck his little harem girls like always. The horn doesnt have anything to do with her ability, its in her brain. OVAs always suck unless they make a fan service OVA like in amaenaideyo! or ikkitousen. No idea on the last question. All these questions are pretty stupid, the only reason they made it end in a "mess" is because its a very easy way to add mystery to the series. Tragic endings always fool people into thinking it actually had a deep meaning afterall. The true tragedy of life is not the death of the man, but what dies in that man while he still lives. |
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04-15-09, 5:48 AM
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You should get a pretty good picture of that it is Nyuu that's at the gates at the end, even though not in a way you would picture it,but I do find it most likely to be here. How can I describe it, as a ghost maybe? |
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04-18-09, 1:54 AM
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i loved it 10/10. i must say i shed a tear when Kurama and his daughter blew up:'( loved the whole anime it was the perfect length  |
#-23
04-18-09, 9:21 AM
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Unless there was a second season there is no way to answer any of the anime's unanswered questions since it strays away from the manga storyline. So in other words if you to have all the loose ends answered read the manga (the old man question is answered, what happens to Lucy but not in the way the anime displays it). |
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05-05-09, 1:22 AM
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negative1111 said: Cero said: mickal555 said: Though there are a fair few unanswered questions, what is that horned guy going to do? DId Lucy die? Looks like it, if so then who's that at the end? I liked it, but as you said there are a few unanswered questions. - Who was standing at the gate? - What is that psycho old man gonna do? - What are Kouta and the others gonna do now? - What did taking off Lucy's other horn do? - My personal question - Why did the OVA suck so much shit (fucking 10.5) - And where did Nyuu learn to fix a clock? O:< The last episode shares almost nothing with the manga, therefore noone knows who stood at the gate. The old man wants to make a diclonious world if i remember correctly. Kouta is gonna fuck his little harem girls like always. The horn doesnt have anything to do with her ability, its in her brain. OVAs always suck unless they make a fan service OVA like in amaenaideyo! or ikkitousen. No idea on the last question. All these questions are pretty stupid, the only reason they made it end in a "mess" is because its a very easy way to add mystery to the series. Tragic endings always fool people into thinking it actually had a deep meaning afterall. [NecroBump!!] Actually, sorry to disappoint but, these questions aren't stupid at all, they're quite viable in my opinion. 1. The Standing at the Gate Question has be answered by many people, and it truly is up to our own interpretation with what were given (discussed by myself, and many others) 2. That Psycho Old Dude whos name no-one can ever remember, well, im not gonna tell you what happens... but i hope you can read :D 3. Kouta and the others... well as we could see from the final minutes, they will lead normal lives until, perhaps, they meet the person at the gate, which may cause for another plot-twist... and a new series! (One can dream...right?) 4. This is the question I didn't like how Negative1111 answered, because in the manga, it discloses that it does effect her ability - and is thus replicated in the anime, each horn shares half of the Diclonius' power (vectors), and therefore, in Lucy's case, she would lose 2 vectors, and in the final episode, she throws up only 2 vectors... see how that works... 5. Well, while the OVA didn't disclose anything about the end - i doubted it would, for the simple reason that, the end is meant to be a mystery, i think thats one of the things that makes this series so good. Nevertheless, i thought the OVA was a good storyline as we could see what things really made Lucy deranged, and we can feel more sympathetic for her and have a closer understanding to her - which i think the Director and Producer were tyring to mimic from the manga - because if you read it, you really get attached to Lucy, and, i don't know about anyone else but i can relate in multiple ways, and it has excellent character-reader relationships all the way throughout and this feeling that we get just makes the series all that much better - i believe the OVA was meant for this purpose. 6. Nyuu fixing a clock... well i can't comment much about this because i don't know how to fix a clock... but i could imagine it is hard (it took Bart and Milhouse 30 or so years!) though... with the proper guide and tools and Nyuu's rock-hard determination, anything is possible! :) So yes, that's my thoughts on this matter, and i hope i could spread some light your way, also, don't hate the OVA too much... there are worse... and you just gotta take it for what it is, rather than what you want, and then you'll understand the Director's purpose... and personally, even though i woulda rathered a concluding episode, i thought this was an excellent choice.    |
#-21
05-05-09, 4:30 PM
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ImaginAsian said: Maybe the music box stopping signifies that Lucy is no more, but the clock starting up signifies that Nyuu has returned? This was exactly what I was thinking. |
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05-06-09, 12:29 PM
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10/10, i never thought, I can find such anime, in just 13 episodes, it crushed my mind- that was so awesome and sad indeed. I cryed while watching it, and about ending - it's really PERFECT, creators left you to figure all out by yourself (actually, i could fly if I can see at least 1 more episode :3 ). In my opinion, behind those doors stands Nyu - the stoped music box represents death of Lucy, and clock represents nyu - the new ticking of life (CLOCK IS ALIVE AGAIN, YAY). I think Lucy launched vectors to kill attackers right after shooting, this way she killed herself - and gave life to Nyu. Why i'm thinking about this kind of ending? - I think, Lucy wanted to stop the deaths and end her "salty" life, full of tears and darkness. She wanted to reborn as Nyu - with no memory, no past - begin new life. That's my opinion, I'm even now hardly stop tears, when i remember Lucy... I even can't imagine, i think, NO ANIME can be better than this. Anime, which made my heart explode... - TMiracle Modified by TMiracle, 05-09-09, 3:51 AM |