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05-02-09, 9:36 AM

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Ah good old Spice and Wolf. Great as usual, want season 2 now!

PS: I'm stealing that facepalm pic for my forum avatar.
 
05-02-09, 9:44 AM

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God, it's so good to have Horo back!

Interesting ep, lots of great, cute Horo moments, but what I found really interesting was her dream sequences. I wonder how much they'll expand upon them in the new season.

I'm sufficiently psyched for season 2. Bring it on!
 
05-02-09, 9:54 AM

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DaBigD said:
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I love Horo<3
Someone post a pic of Horo's faceplam xDD


Anyway, BSS' subs are out for your enjoyment.


Thanks ;***********

Yes I'm gratefult hat we can watch it subbed.
The feeling of familiarity with the characters and everything is just awesome even though the first season only had 12 episodes.

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Kind of something else compared to the other stuff airing at the moment :] Can't wait for the new season.


Amen.

I see that reaper beat me to it XDDDD nice avatar anyways :3
Can't help it! Horo rocks!
 
05-02-09, 10:22 AM

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<3 Horo...

This was a great little episode to bring me back into why I loved season one so much. Seeing Horo get so much more flustered over Lawrence was great.

The nose part was great, when Lawrence went to check her temperature and she was going to say it was like we just kissed...

Getting all temperamental when Lawrence wasn't around...

Still getting excited over apples... she is so cute when she does that, maybe even more so this episode with the apple cider and sheep's milk / apples dish Lawrence made.

Ahh can't wait till season 2!
 
05-02-09, 11:24 AM

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I totally love that anime I was waiting for the second season forever. I think the art is a little different but everything is good can't wait for it to start!
 
05-02-09, 11:56 AM

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the music was a bit strange imo.
but good to see holo back. it was a really nice paced episode. but maybe a little too slow. since it was a ova it was ok.


 
05-02-09, 11:59 AM

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i wouldn't consider horo's nakid scenes to be fan service. especially when you consider what context they portray. this was a good setup episode for the next season. there was a serious moment though, where she realizes just how fragile Lawrence is(and ultimately will become)

the music was kind of annoying, but its not that big of a deal.
 
05-02-09, 12:05 PM

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That was a great warm-up for the new season. I enjoyed some of the ideas the OVA touched on.

One thing I didn't like though - since when was Horo so cutesy? Somehow I remember her being slightly less, well, moe. Or is it just me?
 
05-02-09, 12:37 PM

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One thing I didn't like though - since when was Horo so cutesy? Somehow I remember her being slightly less, well, moe. Or is it just me?


We never really saw Horo's outright affections towards Lawrence through the story (so far). More than often we got bits of that "sexual tension" between the two with her teasing and her obvious jealousy towards Nola later on.

I think the OVA had a good setup, Horo becoming "sick" gave her time to really think about how much different life has been with Lawrence and how she doesn't want to loose it. Hence giving us the "lighter" side of Horo.

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05-02-09, 12:42 PM

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Omegaoveride said:
url_elf said:


One thing I didn't like though - since when was Horo so cutesy? Somehow I remember her being slightly less, well, moe. Or is it just me?


We never really saw Horo's outright affections towards Lawrence through the story (so far). More than often we got bits of that "sexual tension" between the two with her teasing and her obvious jealousy towards Nola later on.

That was one of the things I liked most about the pairing. Hopefully the second season doesn't incorporate too much of these cutesy moments. *Fingers crossed*
 
05-02-09, 12:50 PM

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LucySky said:
Omegaoveride said:
url_elf said:


One thing I didn't like though - since when was Horo so cutesy? Somehow I remember her being slightly less, well, moe. Or is it just me?


We never really saw Horo's outright affections towards Lawrence through the story (so far). More than often we got bits of that "sexual tension" between the two with her teasing and her obvious jealousy towards Nola later on.

That was one of the things I liked most about the pairing. Hopefully the second season doesn't incorporate too much of these cutesy moments. *Fingers crossed*


True, I agree the atmosphere of the first series is what hooked me too. If it were to be more of the "love struck" girl ditsy moments the second series just wont have that chemistry any more.
 
05-02-09, 12:59 PM

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I think it will be ok to have a little bit of this Horo in season 2....



But we still need this Horo....


 
05-02-09, 1:44 PM

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Am I the only one who didn't understand Nora and Horo's joke at the end? xD


They were talking about Lawrence and laughed at how he didn't realize what was going on at all :P


What does it mean to have an open heart when you're herding sheep? Does that mean Lawrence is the sheep, and that when "herding" him, Horo should be more forgiving?
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05-02-09, 2:13 PM

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Am I the only one who didn't understand Nora and Horo's joke at the end? xD


They were talking about Lawrence and laughed at how he didn't realize what was going on at all :P


What does it mean to have an open heart when you're herding sheep? Does that mean Lawrence is the sheep, and that when "herding" him, Horo should be more forgiving?


Basically to have an open heart with a man.

Keep in mind that Horo is a wolf deity and not a woman. Since this OVA was more about her feelings about Lawrence she was asking "advice" from Nola.

Horo obviously senses Lawrence's attraction to Nola and wonders why he is seems to be so brain dead around her at times. "Shepherds" and "Sheep" was a reference to a woman attracting a man. Towards the end when Horo replies about shepherds thinking they are clever was Horo's "outing" Nola's intentions/feelings towards Lawrence. Hence why she was embarrassed when Lawrence came into the conversation.
 
05-02-09, 2:27 PM

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I hadnt realized how much I've missed Horo(whom the guys at BSS annoyingly call Holo) till I watched this... now I cant wait for the second season.

I could do without the opening music though....
 
05-02-09, 3:03 PM

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Good episode with Horo x Lawrence indeed.



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05-02-09, 4:13 PM

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I just hope you call her Horo not Holo. Seeing groups call her Holo is depressing.


The thing is, that her official name is actually "Holo." As long as you don't pronounce it with an English L, but with a Japanese "[r/l]o" you get a good sounding name.

Anyway, I really enjoyed this first episode and can't wait for the second season. It's been awhile since I saw the original, but I don't believe they ever put Holo's love interest with Lawrence really out in the open like this; so it's definitely going to be interesting.

 
05-02-09, 4:46 PM

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Ah good to see Holo again. Wasn't quite like the first season, but Spice and Wolf is really relaxing. I'm pretty hyped for season 2 now.
 
05-02-09, 5:37 PM

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I didn't mind the art as much as I thought I would. Horo felt a bit out of character at some points however. Obviously the whole love triangle thing was played up for the OVA but Horo's shy and blushing moments were a bit much at times. Still left a smile on my face and I'm hoping for something a little more substantial in season two.

I agree much with what you say. I think it was a tad different from the first season where in Horo's personality changed quite a bit into a more lovestruck harem girl than the clever smart wise wolf we all loved. Even Horo's speech tone differed, but that might be because of the atmosphere of this whole episode it brings out. The animation itself to me i believe has taken a decline along with subtle character designs from the previous season although that is to be expected knowing its being done by a different production company now. Thats a matter of preference though. I know this shouldn't be criticized to much knowing that this is more of a fun get-back-into episode having really nothing to do with the overall story. Hopefully by June when the new season starts they'll get back with the roots of what the first season did and hook us in like just like before.
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05-02-09, 5:47 PM

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I like the "new" Horo better than the last one so I'm digging this
 
05-02-09, 5:53 PM

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Good op for the second season, hopefully the 2nd season won't be a disappointment. Funny seeing Horo love struck to Lawrence
 
05-02-09, 6:02 PM

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Ah. Like some other posters have commented, while watching, I thought it seemed like naked Horo got a lot of screen time, approaching the level of gratuity. This is not to say that it didn't make sense in its context of the dreams, but that it was presented in a manner that could engender that assessment. Also, agreed that it was heavier on the "cutesy" / "love struck ditsy" moments, resulting from Horo's antagonism towards Nora being foregrounded, which again is not to say that didn't make sense considering the goal of the episode -- to focus on downtime character relationships and build excitement for the season to come. However, it seemed like, in the first season, there was a bit more subtlety and a lot more cleverness in the way the relationships were presented.

Overall, this OVA seemed to have a quite different tone compared to the original series. It's not bad in its own right, but it doesn't feel the same as the first season. Hopefully, the second season will successfully mediate between the two, especially as Lawrence and Horo start traveling and trading again. I welcome romance and complications to it, but I could do without excessive cuteness and the focus on naked wolf deities
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05-02-09, 6:34 PM

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Now it has became Spice-sheep and Tsun-wolf.


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05-02-09, 7:18 PM

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The thing is, that her official name is actually "Holo." As long as you don't pronounce it with an English L, but with a Japanese "[r/l]o" you get a good sounding name.


I know it is officially Holo, but since when do people care about official spellings with R/Ls? Use whichever is best, which in this case is R.
 
05-03-09, 5:42 AM

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Damn this OVA left me wanting more Horo.
 
05-03-09, 6:59 AM

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Am I the only one who didn't understand Nora and Horo's joke at the end? xD


They were talking about Lawrence and laughed at how he didn't realize what was going on at all :P


What does it mean to have an open heart when you're herding sheep? Does that mean Lawrence is the sheep, and that when "herding" him, Horo should be more forgiving?


Basically to have an open heart with a man.

Keep in mind that Horo is a wolf deity and not a woman. Since this OVA was more about her feelings about Lawrence she was asking "advice" from Nola.

Horo obviously senses Lawrence's attraction to Nola and wonders why he is seems to be so brain dead around her at times. "Shepherds" and "Sheep" was a reference to a woman attracting a man. Towards the end when Horo replies about shepherds thinking they are clever was Horo's "outing" Nola's intentions/feelings towards Lawrence. Hence why she was embarrassed when Lawrence came into the conversation.

Okay, that makes a bunch of sense. Now I know what happened at the end, and why that was how it ended up.

But am I the only one that was left wondering why Nola didn't take a step back after seeing Holo's ears?
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05-03-09, 7:32 AM

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But am I the only one that was left wondering why Nola didn't take a step back after seeing Holo's ears?


Why would she? She knows that Horo is a wolf and has even seen her true form
 
05-03-09, 10:20 AM

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damn holo was so cute! moar plz!
 
05-03-09, 1:54 PM

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Hooray!
Horo's back! that was nice to watch. 8/10
Can't wait for the 2nd season.

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05-03-09, 4:29 PM

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Well I watched it subbed now. There really wasn't much I didn't catch the first time around. I just wanted to reassure folks who don't want to much of a cutesy Horo in the second season that they have naught to fear. Without giving any spoilers I can say that the plot makes a ditsy character impossible. The plot wouldn't work unless Horo is the Horo we all know and love.
 
05-03-09, 5:45 PM

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ahh...Horo....<3
We look forward to more of you~
 
05-03-09, 6:40 PM

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Horo was so adorable in this episode. :)

Can't wait for the next season.
 
05-03-09, 7:37 PM

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05-03-09, 9:58 PM

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Lawrence's insightful facts about pathology left me doubting some parts ... Eat Apples! Can't go wrong with that one though ^^

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Hooray!
Horo's back! that was nice to watch. 8/10
Can't wait for the 2nd season.

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Hah! You thought so too? xD
 
05-03-09, 10:22 PM

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The music and animation was very good, and it’s nice to see Horo and Lawrence again. Having different studio won’t affect at me at all because Horo is the one of two reasons that I want to watch the OVA and Spice and Wolf II. I really can’t wait to watch the second season!
 
05-04-09, 12:00 AM

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Nora moe.

Lawrence must be getting to me..
 
05-04-09, 1:28 AM

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Well that was enjoyable.

The beginning intro music was like nails to a chalkboard to me though. I couldn't stand it at all. That was about my only complaint.

I'm surprised the animation resembles the first season so well, I expected it to be a lot different.

Horo is still fun to watch, I'll be looking forward to season 2 when it finally airs.

 
05-04-09, 11:39 AM

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But am I the only one that was left wondering why Nola didn't take a step back after seeing Holo's ears?


Why would she? She knows that Horo is a wolf and has even seen her true form

Was that in the last episode of the first season? I'll have to rewatch that because I don't remember her knowing about Horo's true form.
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05-04-09, 2:16 PM

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that was unimaginable sweet... ^^
 
05-04-09, 9:05 PM

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hmm the dream of night and lawrance becoming a corpse bothered me the most tho
 
05-04-09, 11:04 PM

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More Horo/Holo w/e is always good :D
 
05-05-09, 2:53 AM

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I AM AMAZED :D

After reading some posts beforehand I expected a very "out of character" Horo with way too much moeness. But when I finally found the time to watch the OVA (several times) yesterday, I was squealing with glee. ^^

Horo was just marvelous. I couldnt stop smiling during the whole episode. So many hilarious and heartwarming moments. This made my week!
ARRRGGHH... how can Lawrence resist this permanent desire to hug her which I felt the whole time? He seems to be damn strong in controlling his feelings.

But most of all:

WHERE IS MY KISS? ;(

Why do they tease the audience that much? Thats so cruel! Or was I the only one who stopped breathing when Lawrence and Horo were about to kiss two times in one of the dream sequences. Seriously my heart was about to skip a beat. I was screaming "Give her a proper kiss you idiot", but apparently all they did was rubbing their noses. *sigh*



About the last conversation between Nora and Horo:

I understood that conversation a bit different. I dont think that Nora has special feelings for Lawrence. He is just a good business-friend:
From Horos perspective, Lawrence is a dumb sheep. Nora is used to herd sheeps, so for her its easy to come along with Lawrence. But Horo is a Wolf deity. So she needs advice from Nora how to deal with "a sheep".
When Horo gazes at Lawrence at the end of the conversation, Nora immediately understands, that Lawrence was refered to as "sheep" and that he was the reason for Horos question. Therefore both start laughing when he (stupidly) asks whats going on.


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hmm for some reason i think horo's pregnant

That line perked my interests. Where you getting that guess? LoL not I gotta go back and re-watch the end of the first season to see if there was something I missed.

Somehow I got the same Idea watching these scenes:
 
05-05-09, 3:22 AM

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Special Sickness --> Pregnancy? 0_0


Please no.
 
05-05-09, 8:13 AM

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Special Sickness --> Pregnancy? 0_0


Simply love, I think.
I rewatched it again and it looks like Horo is... in heat? lol
 
05-05-09, 8:38 AM

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I think you are right, she is clearly in heat. Don't really see how people connected it with pregnancy though and those that did go study pregnancy and how it works
 
05-05-09, 11:37 AM

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lol, people thought pregnancy, thats great. was a bit concerned about the intro music, but its good to see that it looks like they tried to hold up to s1
 
05-05-09, 12:25 PM

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Huh, MAL changed character name from Horo to Holo... i'm waitning for Lawlence then -,-'
 
05-05-09, 2:30 PM

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Huh, MAL changed character name from Horo to Holo... i'm waitning for Lawlence then -,-'
They what? Oh you have got to be fuckin' kidding me...
 
05-05-09, 10:06 PM

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yay horo!! well i do forget lawrence name, but i miss them
it was funny to see horo burning in jealousy, and then the 2 girls became friends
xant wait for S2, i do forgot that they were heading to the nort in the first place,but did horo said why did she needed to go??
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05-06-09, 12:59 AM

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Starting was a bit lame, but overall episode was alright considering it was an pretty much a promotional OVA ep. Really looking forward to the series now, this episode is working out greatly as a advert for the season coming up lol.

Gonna love S2. 7/10 for the OVA.
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