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May 25, 2009 7:32 AM
#41
Yes, I'm sure everyone decided to watch FF7: Advent Children because of the red pony-tailed comic-relief dude. I played FF7 while you were still in diapers. Maybe... But that was a long time ago.. Perhaps its time for you to play FF7 again, no? Anyway, if you have played ff7 and still say that the turks are random characters that no one gives a shit about... I think that you haven't understand FF7 history... Bah, i don't want to start a flamewar... |
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May 29, 2009 4:28 PM
#42
May 30, 2009 11:09 AM
#43
Zhao_Yun said: I don't know whether it was because of the video file I watched, but could it be that they made the bgm more quiet during the fights? One Winged Angel was so quiet that it was drowned by the sound of the clashing sowrds... no ur right, the bgm is quiter and not as effective as the original, one of the few flaws of complete |
Jun 1, 2009 11:07 PM
#45
Beatnik said: I'm a FF fan. (I'm playing FFIII now actually) I'm also a fan of movies and anime, basically good narrative. There is no good narrative in FF: Advent Children. It's a string of badly edited, written and acted scenes strung together in awful fashion. There were so many scenes that just cut away to other scenes at horrible moments intercut with stupid music choices. The film lacks coherent pacing, tempo and even basic fucking mis-en-scene. The director's cut takes a movie that wasnt even good anyway, but memorable for its insane action scenes, and makes it all worse with ham-fisted hand-holding exposition that STILL makes no fucking sense, because the movie is just glued together with cliche after cliche. Reno flying a chopper into a cloud then flying off? Really? That's how you want to start a FF movie? Fuck that shit, its lazy, uninspired and insulting. If you want to start your movie with the theft of Jenovah then FUCKING SHOW IT, dont give me a fucking static shot of clouds and grunting, what the fuck? The movie is shit. Its action scenes are off the wall crazy fun, but that's all its got going for it, all of its over the top stylish direction is utterly wasted and also utterly pointless, there is literally no point to all the shots in the movie, there's no theme to it, its just crazy angles and shots for the hell of it, making the movie even more devoid of any kind of meaning, a shallow, empty, hollow animated mess that not only shits on the franchise but on all viewers of all race, colour or creed. Yes, some of the animation was nice, Tifa looks hot, visual kei Cloud's hair is all visual kei-like, but the kids look like fucking zombies from the lower demonic dimension. You cant say the animation hasnt been topped, because I havent seen a CGI movie that had such ugly plastic characters. Try watching that other (very boring) FF movie: The Spirits Within. THAT hasnt been topped, well much anyway. You'll all realise this when you're older and your tastes have matured, trust me. For now I'm willing to be looked down on and have rotten cabbage thrown at me. Go ahead. I like cabbage anyway! I'm going to go and have to disagree with you there. Thought you say you're an FF Fan, you aren't a big FF7 or else you wouldn't have focused so much on the faults (though non-existent). There are a couple points to which I agree with you. The fighting and action sequences were ridiculously un-realistic, and the animation on the children did seem a little stiff. (When I say animation, I mean the movements, not the actually 3d model.) The beginning of the movie draws suspense out of the viewer. Obviously not most of us, as we've seen it before. But what you really get is; a character you recognize from the old game flying into a mountain. You aren't supposed to know that Jenova's head is being stolen. You're supposed to be surprised and drawn in. Though I suppose that this is relative. As for your crazy shots, and angles comment; well in filmmaking there is a rule: The mind can only focus on one thing for 7 seconds before getting bored. This is why you see so many different transitions and angles. If it was one static shot the entire time, say when Rufus and Cloud were speaking. I'm sure you would have been even more bored than you actually were. Also have to disagree with you on the quality of CGI. Some of the best I've seen. If you're talking about how much detail there put in the characters that are just walking around on the street. Well then I would almost agree with you. Would you put in a whole ton of effort into something that isn't really going to be noticed. If you're talking about the mood and colors. They hit it off pretty well. It seemed like a very unhappy place to be, and judging from the colors, and interactions I'm pretty sure I"m right. And you're comment about being more mature was just rude. |
Jun 2, 2009 7:14 AM
#46
Deadrocks said: As for your crazy shots, and angles comment; well in filmmaking there is a rule: The mind can only focus on one thing for 7 seconds before getting bored. This is why you see so many different transitions and angles. If it was one static shot the entire time, say when Rufus and Cloud were speaking. I'm sure you would have been even more bored than you actually were. Well done, this is the most retarded thing I've read all month. |
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Jun 2, 2009 8:00 AM
#47
Jun 2, 2009 3:17 PM
#48
Beatnik said: Deadrocks said: As for your crazy shots, and angles comment; well in filmmaking there is a rule: The mind can only focus on one thing for 7 seconds before getting bored. This is why you see so many different transitions and angles. If it was one static shot the entire time, say when Rufus and Cloud were speaking. I'm sure you would have been even more bored than you actually were. Well done, this is the most retarded thing I've read all month. Think what you will, but it is true. |
Jun 10, 2009 9:31 AM
#49
David Lean probably farted a little in his grave right now. His little act of defiance against retardation in the world today. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Jun 10, 2009 10:20 AM
#50
coffeeNiK said: The movie gave the same feeling it gave you when u first saw it. Total Awesome S**T!!! There, fixed. Everything Beatnik says is accurate and I couldn't agree more. As a FF fan and as a movie and anime fan myself, this was just another offering to the most incomprehensible anime franchises ever made. Not to mention boring and irritating. If I wasn't falling asleep, I was confused. It's the effing Michael Bay's Transformers of anime: no coherent plot, utterly boring when no action is taking place, a total visual vomit-fest, and caricature characters that are about as deep a puddle of puppy urine. But then, who cares, right? It's a puppy! Let's ignore that it pissed. Let's ignore that Final Fantasy Advent Children is one of the poorest transitions from game to anime. It makes no different that it looks like heaven since the script and storyboard were indubitably spat out from hell. |
tehnominatorJun 10, 2009 10:26 AM
Jun 10, 2009 7:52 PM
#51
For anyone who thought the action scenes and visuals in this film were average, let alone good, I think your eyes will bulge out of their sockets after seeing this; http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/115884.html http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/dead-fantasy-ii/193489 By http://montyoum.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=fanmovs They were both made by a 27 year-old high school dropout with no training whatsoever in 3D animation. He did it in his spare time, without any money, while working a shitty, low-paying, low-skilled 9 to 5. One guy. Using programs and character models that any 12 year old can successfully find, install, and use from the Internet. Comparing it to Michael Bay's Transformers really isn't fair. Say what you will about the live action adaptation of a children's cartoon meant to popularize a line of toys, but there's no way a single amateur with no money can produce anything close to the visuals in "Transformers", let alone surpass it by about three or four levels... |
YoungVagabondJun 10, 2009 8:02 PM
Jun 10, 2009 8:10 PM
#52
ShaolinRibeiro said: Comparing it to Michael Bay's Transformers really isn't fair. Say what you will about the live action adaptation of a children's cartoon meant to popularize a line of toys, but there's no way a single amateur with no money can produce anything close to the visuals in "Transformers", let alone surpass it by about three or four levels... We were asking for a simple movie, not a potential visual seizure. I'd have rather the dropout direct Transformers in any case. I might at least have understood what was happening onscreen. |
Jun 11, 2009 5:22 AM
#53
Shaolin, the only reason I gave FF any points at all was because of the action scenes. I'm an action junkie just as much as a po-faced movie buff, but FF is clearly not aiming to be just an action fix, its got higher ambitions and fails miserably, its narrative is shit and the direction, especially for its action scenes, is meaningless, there's no meaning at all for the way its shot, but the worst thing is the editing. So its got great action, but it whizzes past so quick I can barely register any of the cinematography or staging, its a waste. The only time I could fully appreciate some of the action was during the group fight with the summoned monster, the scale of it even forced the director to restrain himself to show what the hell was going on. I'm also a fan of those 'amateur' groups, mostly American (and probably west coasters), who do fight choreography and stunts, sometimes for profit and sometimes just for the hell of it. They put all of Hollywood to shame, in choreography, stunts, direction and editing. (other than the Wachowskis and their excellent scene blocking and penchant for working with good choreographers and stuntmen) |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Jun 11, 2009 3:30 PM
#54
Beatnik said: So its got great action, Haha. Not at all. Beatnik said: I'm also a fan of those 'amateur' groups, mostly American (and probably west coasters), who do fight choreography and stunts, sometimes for profit and sometimes just for the hell of it. Are you talking about groups like the presently disbanded EMC Monkeys? (Random- I've met the main guy in their group through a friend when I was in high school) In that case, you couldn't be more wrong. They're good at what they do, but they're about 100 years behind the choreography of the old-school Hong Kong kung fu movies, and about 200 years behind innovators like Tony Jaa, David Belle, Cyril Raffaelli, or Donnie Yen. Seriously; their movie fighting abilities are barely above that of a decent extra or minor villain in a low-budget 70's kung fu film, let alone some of the ridiculously good action films that have come out in the last 12 years. Their parkour skills are more impressive, but also nowhere close to world-class, or even as good as some European amateur groups. Your mistake is that you're focusing on Hollywood, when the martial arts genre isn't, and never has been, particularly prominent there, especially nowadays, when the action genre is almost dead. Beatnik said: They put all of Hollywood to shame, in choreography, stunts, direction and editing. Even if we're considering Hollywood, there are some Jet Li and Jackie Chan films made over here that far outstrip what any amateur group has done. Beatnik said: (other than the Wachowskis and their excellent scene blocking and penchant for working with good choreographers and stuntmen) Seriously? The Matrix films are the last ones I would point to as a beacon of great action scenes. The first film did okay in this regard, because of its mind-blowing special effects, amazingly high level of computer graphics, HUGE BUDGET, and because Yuen Wo-Ping was smart enough to go for short fight scenes featuring the same two set positions. The strength of its fight scenes was all thanks to the CG, whose sole intended goal was to mask the weakness of its human component. The second film mostly continued this trend, but then got too creative for its own good, with Neo's fight against the Oracle's bodyguard being one of the most pathetically bad action scenes I've ever seen. I was laughing when I saw that in the theaters. That was like, "Undefeatable" level bad. Also, the fight against the multiple Smiths in the alleyway was nice...but it was all COMPUTER GENERATED. No humans, period! The third film had horrible fight scenes where they tried to do too much and took too long. Anyways, those three films were a fine illustration of what can be done with a huge budget and a bunch of great graphical artists, but not in terms of action choreography, where it was quite standard, if anything. |
Jun 11, 2009 3:58 PM
#55
ShaolinRibeiro said: In that case, you couldn't be more wrong. They're good at what they do, but they're about 100 years behind the choreography of the old-school Hong Kong kung fu movies, and about 200 years behind innovators like Tony Jaa, David Belle, Cyril Raffaelli, or Donnie Yen. Yeah but none of those work in Hollywood which was what I was criticising. Being that FF: AC is hyper-stylized and produced to a degree that belongs in Hollywood and not HK cinema, that was the allusion I was creating. There is better action, direction and editing in amateur groups than in nearly every single Hollywood fight scene released this, or any, year. We both know how Hollywood directors film close up to the actors and shake the camera around to fool the viewer into believing an actual fight is taking place. FF: AC is taking the same approach which is mind-boggling because there are no actors involved! Even if we're considering Hollywood, there are some Jet Li and Jackie Chan films made over here that far outstrip what any amateur group has done. Any of their stuff that wasnt directed by an American yeah, everything else not so much. Just a couple of examples of the types of groups I was talking about: ZeroGravity TheStuntPeople ehrgeiz A few years ago when I first stumbled onto these kinds of groups, I was really impressed by how dedicated they were, they had some good setpieces and skirmishes filmed in all kinds of environments. Its not about fighting skill, but how to bring a fight to a viewer and make it exciting and coherent, they were very much in the vein of HK cinema, not original or innovative at all, except for the fact that Americans (mostly of Chinese heritage) were doing it. Seriously? The Matrix films are the last ones I would point to as a beacon of great action scenes. The point of the Matrix fight scenes was that you could actually see what was going on, you get a sense of scope and tempo, you get iconic imagery and are given enough time to register it. I'm not talking about actual martial arts or the skill involved, but the movie depiction of it, the direction and editing. The Wachowskis shoot wide a lot of the time, they allow the actors to duke it out and for us to see it, unlike other directors who push the camera up close to mask what the reality is, which is actors fumbling around like idiots. The Wachowskis apparently filmed the fight scenes for Ninja Assassin coming out later this year, so lets see how they're keeping up these days... Actually, I dont know why we're talking about martial arts because I'm pretty sure FF doesnt have any. Back to the main point: FF sucks donkey dick. |
BeatnikJun 11, 2009 4:01 PM
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Jun 11, 2009 4:11 PM
#56
Beatnik said: Back to the main point: FF sucks donkey dick. Poor donkey. |
Jun 11, 2009 5:54 PM
#57
Oh man...I just remembered. At some point late last year, Beatnik, you wrote a comment on my wall about why I gave FFAC such a low rating, and shouldn't it deserve to be much higher? Heh...you've come around to my way of thinking. Beatnik said: There is better action, direction and editing in amateur groups than in nearly every single Hollywood fight scene released this, or any, year. We both know how Hollywood directors film close up to the actors and shake the camera around to fool the viewer into believing an actual fight is taking place. FF: AC is taking the same approach which is mind-boggling because there are no actors involved! I couldn't agree more with the last two sentences (the shaky cam is one of the most retarded "film techniques" ever introduced), but you're going way too far when you say that those amateur groups are somehow better than what we see in Hollywood action films. They're not. I thought of a few more examples, actually; the first "XXX" and "Transporter 2" both featured way more innovative and interesting stunts, and the latter vastly superior fight scenes to the content of your posted links. Beatnik said: Any of their stuff that wasnt directed by an American yeah, everything else not so much. That's a meaningless distinction; many Hollywood films aren't directed by Americans. As long as it's a Hollywood production, it makes no difference; "Kiss of the Dragon", "The One", and "Romeo Must Die", off the top of my head. Beatnik said: The point of the Matrix fight scenes was that you could actually see what was going on, you get a sense of scope and tempo, you get iconic imagery and are given enough time to register it. I never said they were outright bad; only that they were founded in great CG, and were merely decent, nothing great or even particularly good. I'm not talking about actual martial arts or the skill involved, but the movie depiction of it, the direction and editing. Oh, I see. In that case, I'd say it's pretty hit and miss; a lot of the scenes in the first film had fine directing and editing, that laughable scene in Matrix 2 I mentioned didn't, and then the third one had lazy, poorly constructed shots and shoddy presentation. Actually, I dont know why we're talking about martial arts because I'm pretty sure FF doesnt have any. A lot of those films we're talking about would be characterized more as "action" (especially The Matrix), not "martial arts", and besides, the necessary presentation and choreography is similar enough. Back to the main point: FF sucks donkey dick. Well yes, but the point is; it fails precisely because of its awful fight scenes. If the fight scenes were at least decent, I'd probably give the film a 4 or 5, despite all of its other laughable flaws. |
Jun 20, 2009 5:56 AM
#58
Ouch ... this discussion thread just became a FF punching bag. Flame shield on. |
Jun 28, 2009 5:20 AM
#59
I can ramble on and on how awesome Advent Children Complete was,but I'll 'try' to make this as short(but not too short)as possible. First off,the movie looks awesome and fantastic in HD WAY better quality,not surprising coming from an already great CG movie given a Blu-ray HD makeover. The added 26 mins of additional footage not only makes the movie ten times better but,it also makes the plot more understandable for those who never played the original FFVII game and/or were confused with the plot the first time around.Denzel's past finally explained how he ended up in Cloud and Tifa's care and he's no longer some random character that has no role in the plot once so ever. Now out of all the new scenes added in the Complete version of AC my most favorite new scenes had to be when Cloud saves Tifa and Denzel.Some FFVII fans would recognize that it was a movie reference of the promise Cloud made to Tifa in the game that he'll always be there to rescue her if or whenever she was in danger,that and it finally suggests their relationship is more than just friends is awesome. My other favorite new scene they added is without a doubt the extended fight scene with Cloud and Sephiroth,HE FINALLY GETS HIS BLACK WING!!! Now as much I like Cloud and thinks he's a great character and all...CLOUD GOT FUCKED UP BY SEPHIROTH THIS TIME! I mean Cloud got hurt in the original AC but this time HOLY SHIT!!! He gets fucking stabbed all over the place.He gets a Deja Vu stab as seen in Crisis Core:FFVII,his arms,upper body area,half his face and worse in the foot and through the leg or kneecap THEN gets his ass tossed towards the building below as if he were a baseball or something lol.As much as I'd like to recall all my favorite added scenes,I don't want this to be too long. So in conclusion I recommend this new "Complete" version to anyone who never bought or seen the movie the first time,any Final Fantasy fan,to anyone who likes their movies with great action scenes and to anyone who enjoy a good CG movie every now and then. |
Jul 16, 2009 5:00 PM
#60
Please note, I am not exactly what you would call a "Final Fantasy fan". I've only played one Final Fantasy game (FF XII) so I don't know much about the series or any of the stories. With that said, I recently bought this movie on Blu-Ray. That's two firsts for me. For one, I rarely buy movies and I have never bought a Japanese movie. I always download them. The other thing is that this is the first Blu-Ray movie I have bought though I have rented them before. I already have this movie on my computer, both the English dub and subtitled version but I had some money to spend and it was the only movie on Wal-Mart's amazingly minuscule Blu-Ray rack that remotely interested me plus I was curious about the extra footage and other features. My conclusion: I already liked this movie but, in my opinion, the extra footage made it better and cleared up a few things. I was a little disappointed in the HD quality though. It didn't seem to be as sharp as it should be. It might just be my TV though. |
Jul 17, 2009 7:03 AM
#61
Jul 17, 2009 7:37 AM
#62
Yukito097 said: has this been subbed yet? If so, where can I watch it? kaminakun said: Also if you can find an English DVD torrent it should have subtitles. Or you can do like me and just buy the DVD/Blu-Ray.Actually, it's just been subbed and released by THORA in 720p ... but it is 6.5GB =.= If you mean streaming, I don't know. |
Jul 25, 2009 7:52 AM
#63
Sep 4, 2009 5:03 AM
#65
Sep 16, 2009 6:43 AM
#66
I think i came a little while watching this. Original FFAC was plain awesome, and this just makes it all x10. Visuals are totally mindblowing, fullHD really is what it's supposed to be. Everything is so sharp, detailed and clear that most watchers might end up having to change their pants after the movie. Especially fighting scenes are absolutely gorgeous. Audiotrack won't let you down either, there's now more dialogue and it's well done. Music is 100% FF quality. Extra scenes fill up the holes that appeared in original FFAC, in a way that now even those who didn't play FFVII can enjoy this. Maybe not to the fullest but still... I gave this 9/10. -1 point because IMO the plot is bit... stupid to be honest. It goes well with the game, though. |
Oct 11, 2009 9:12 AM
#67
the movie is crazy |
Oct 24, 2009 9:30 PM
#68
This movie was pure fan-service, I loved every minute of it. Tifa's fight was awesome as espected and Vincent is still a BA. |
Nov 11, 2009 1:37 PM
#69
SoulSlayerShika said: This movie was pure fan-service, I loved every minute of it. Tifa's fight was awesome as espected and Vincent is still a BA. i love TIFA and CLOUD fight is so cool-nya |
Nov 29, 2009 4:43 AM
#70
Beatnik said: (...) opening five minutes which were so incomprehensible and laughable featuring a helicopter with a random character no one gives a shit about (...) I'm not going to argue with the rest of your post because if that's how you feel then it's none of my business... but this is so untrue D: Reno is one of the coolest characters in FFVII so obviously many people care. Member Favorites: 269 Just wanted to point it out XD Too bad I could only watch the dubbed version D: my pc couldn't handle the 11gb matroska file, damn. I watched it on Megavideo. OH THE PAIN. New footage blew me away. I mean, WHOA. Cloud/Sephiroth fight extension? Awesome. Many plot holes filled, makes more sense now...That's a good thing, I was kind of confused when I watched non-Complete. And Zack! They added some Zack! Yusss x3 Seeing Vincent is always a good thing, I don't even have to comment on that. Makes me want to play the game again D: |
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Nov 29, 2009 4:46 AM
#71
Reno is a comic-relief side character who has a total of ten minutes screentime, in the context of the film, he really is meaningless and a poor choice to start the movie with. DONT DOUBT ME. |
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Nov 29, 2009 4:52 AM
#72
Beatnik said: DONT DOUBT ME. XD I agree that his role was reduced to crappy comic relief in THE MOVIE. Yes. But he's not a character that nodoby gives a damn about. I liked him since I played the game and while his role in the movie disappointed me, I never stopped liking him. And I'm sure many people think the same :D But you know, to each his own. |
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Nov 29, 2009 5:34 AM
#73
YOU'RE DOUBTING ME! Why do you have to hurt me so!? I actually cant remember him in the game, but it's been years since I played it. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Nov 29, 2009 5:56 AM
#74
Beatnik said: YOU'RE DOUBTING ME! Why do you have to hurt me so!? I actually cant remember him in the game, but it's been years since I played it. I never knew I could cause this much pain D: I AM SORRY. Really? You don't remember Reno? o.o The guy that wanted to capture Aeris/th at the very beginning? Helped you during the Wutai side quest? Blew up the plate in Sector 7 and killed all those innocents? Blasphemy. (Please don't shout Sparta D:) |
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Feb 9, 2010 1:53 AM
#76
I enjoyed this movie. This is definitely better than the original version, and comparing the two, I think I'll lower the original version score by one and give the better score to this one. There are some nice nostalgic scenes with Zach for people who played Crisis Core. This also looked really good in full 1080p...(took a long time to download though) |
Mar 10, 2010 6:17 AM
#77
Haha lucky I brought the blue ray :) no need to download and hey...I gotta agree with saxophone15 I might lower the score of the original... |
May 21, 2010 11:22 PM
#78
May 29, 2010 9:38 AM
#79
Beatnik said: Reno is a comic-relief side character who has a total of ten minutes screentime, in the context of the film, he really is meaningless and a poor choice to start the movie with. DONT DOUBT ME. I'd have to agree, they were really grasping for an epic opening. They wanted mountains, fog and something they could do a earth orbit zoom into. It just didn't work towards the story, character presentation or setting. For the film in general the fight scenes were ok, they made me want a motorcycle but didn't leave me in awe or anything. The graphics were really of one palette; which left the children looking like zombies and the zombies looking like well groomed emo teens. I don't know the FF universe that well, I played through half of FF7 a long time ago so the lack of character development really hurt. For example 20 minutes after the extra crew showed up (leftover characters that showed up with the helicopter) I didn't know half of their names, and the movie ended with me not knowing some of them. "There is no good narrative in FF: Advent Children. It's a string of badly edited, written and acted scenes strung together in awful fashion. There were so many scenes that just cut away to other scenes at horrible moments intercut with stupid music choices. The film lacks coherent pacing, tempo and even basic fucking mis-en-scene." This I also agree with, the story was terrible. Some bad guys showed up just to give the characters a reason to fight together against a new enemy and revisit past memories. The scenes were randomly cutoff it did seem, and that really annoyed me to no end. But as far as anime go, this isn't unusual and overall it kept me entertained. I did give the Complete Edition a one point higher rating than the original, because they did give us more of the good stuff- fighting and back story. Oh well, I'm sure the Fanboys loved it and the haters hated it. I just don't see anything that great about it, it was just another action anime. I preferred the animation in Vexille, and was not impressed by the caricature-like design as far as body design and head to weight ratios. Character movement was over exaggerated. Also the people in the background and walking the streets were blobs with no variance in wardrobe. |
MerrilMay 29, 2010 9:43 AM
Jun 15, 2010 4:28 AM
#80
Jun 20, 2010 12:08 PM
#81
Beatnik, I think you might have watched the wrong movie. ACC starts with a creature that looks like Red, then shows Kadaj and Rufus, then we hear Tseng and Elena and THEN we get to Reno. Or you might have speedwatched it - which wouldn't be surprising if you've seen the original years ago. I liked this movie. I never played FFVII, just watched the cutscenes from Crisis Core and read the general descrition from wikipedia. and I still understood it. Well, AC not so much (since back then I barely had an idea of who Cloud was and what happened in the original game), but ACC had a very coherent and well put-together plot. There ARE three things I can complain about, though: the lazy animation in some scenes - one scene would be perfectly animated and drawn, and the next look like a plastic model. I'm glad they went all-out on the close-ups and the action scenes, though. Secondly, the lack of sceentime for the crew at the end. I understand that they had nowhere to participate in the movie's events, but it would have been nice to give them an excuse to have a reunion before the climax, when you honestly didn't care about them anymore. And the last, the absolute cheese in the 'let's throw Cloud' scene - nakama power go! - seriously? Ugh. Well, the good parts outrank the bad. Even if I'd have liked some more Tseng too, it's awesome that Reno, Rude and Rufus got so much screentime. The triplets kinda sucked in personality, but their motorbike fight scenes and Kadaj's overacting were win. The Rufus+Kadaj scenes were fantastic. Cloud was a still moody kid, but they sure made him a cool moody kid. Vincent and Zack had just enough screentime to be awesome and not steal the show. Denzel ad Marlene might have been boring by themselves, but the plot used them effectively. And Sephiroth... but everyone else already mentioned him. And, regardless of what anyone else thought about it, I absolutely, utterly, deeply adored the direction. |
Jul 20, 2010 4:36 AM
#82
Now that's some delicious 1080p Tifa. Anyway, I didn't expect it to be this much better in 1080p than the original was~ : > Also, I'd forgotten how ridiculously misplaced Red XIII's voice sounds. xD And lastly, Safe and Sound, is a pretty good song. |
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Aug 31, 2010 6:52 PM
#83
LitespeedEXE said: Damn, Safe and Sound was taken out of both the US and UK release. I was really looking forward to hearing that. Is the Advent Children Complete credit footage still in the US/UK release, it's just that Safe and Sound was just replaced with that song originally from AC's credits? I eventually want to buy this so I don't know if it'd be best to get the US release or import the Japanese blu-ray (whether or not it has English subs is fine by me). (I watched the THORA fansub today, It was brilliant. ACC gets 10/10 compared to my AC rating of 8/10.) |
Jan 11, 2011 6:24 AM
#84
Big disappointment~ In 1997 Square released Final Fantasy VII, a jRPG game for PlayStation that will soon enough influence whole gaming community, and not only. It will become some sort of exemplar, or icon in a field of jRPG, and will earn appreciation all around the world. Throughout years it became a phenomenon, and just like avalache it quickly aquired incredible fandom base. For me, FFVII was, and still is a gaming masterpiece. Because of many factors.. Nothing is absolute, including FFVII, but many people seem to value this game highly. There's no point in recalling elements that made FFVII special, because for each person it will be something different. I just want to remark that variety of outlooks is essential in fair criticism. And that being said, I want to state my opinion on FFVII:ACC movie.. It just isn't Final Fantasy VII for me. Considering myself a big FFVII fan I've been very reserved towards the idea of this whole 'Compilation' thing, from the very beginning. SquareEnix is not Square any more. And it's not just the name. It's people who work on the project. I did not want to raise any expectations.. but my fan-ish (?) soul couldn't wait without excitement for another audio-visual products with FFVII in their title name. And when it all came down.. I found my memories, and affections for FFVII being crumpled relentlessly. That was how I felt after watching this movie. And after playing in Crisis Core.. and after making some resarch on the plot of Before Crisis.. and after trailers of 2 OVA's that I still did not watch. FFVII:ACC is just.. swordsplay. With Cloud, and Sephiroth.. in CGI. That's all. It is entertaining, yes.. but.. My expectaton were to high. I was disappointed, and still am. If you are serious FFVII fan, you'll know what I mean. You'll see it. You'll see this visually stunning movie, and then you''ll feel, that.. it's just not what it used to be. It's different. It's a bit shallow, and made for money. You'll sense it, quickly. Please, Square.. do not EVER remake FFVII.. Let FFVII be an icon of jRPG, or RPG in general, as it was. |
ValwinJan 11, 2011 6:27 AM
Feb 17, 2011 6:51 AM
#85
well he movie was really quite well than the first one especially the graphics but yeah what valwin said is true... but if they are going to make an FF movie i would really like to watch FFVIII or versus XIII ^....,^ |
Mar 5, 2011 12:21 AM
#86
I just downloaded this movie last week. a 10GB movie sure contains good quality graphics. I won't get tired watching it over and over again. X) devilscorner said: if they are going to make an FF movie i would really like to watch FFVIII or versus XIII ^....,^ I would like to see FF8 turn into movie too, though I don't think square-enix will. :\ |
Mar 5, 2011 12:21 AM
#87
I just downloaded this movie last week. a 10GB movie sure contains good quality graphics. I won't get tired watching it over and over again. X) devilscorner said: if they are going to make an FF movie i would really like to watch FFVIII or versus XIII ^....,^ I would like to see FF8 turn into movie too, though I don't think square-enix will. :\ |
Mar 5, 2011 12:26 AM
#88
I just downloaded this movie last week. a 10GB movie sure contains good quality graphics. I won't get tired watching it over and over again. X) devilscorner said: if they are going to make an FF movie i would really like to watch FFVIII or versus XIII ^....,^ I would like to see FF8 turn into movie too, though I don't think square-enix will. :\ |
Sep 5, 2011 4:27 PM
#89
FF7 universe was and still is the best thing ever created (for me). I've replayed the games and rewatched the movies in triple digits. Watching this again after a year has proved to me once again... FF7 is Legendary. 10/10 Truly a masterpiece. Proud Bias ^^ |
Kayaba-Jan 4, 2013 6:34 PM
Sep 22, 2011 11:05 PM
#90
Shit. They actually made the movie understandable AND enjoyable! The small little fluff that actually EXPLAINED SHIT really went a long way in making the movie highly enjoyable. |
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