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Yea I also brought it up during that episode in that thread way back, very in depth too >_>.

About the wind chimes, I dunno...wiki isn't always right. I think I'll trust what I've learned about my own culture than random things posted on the internet. Even if it's true, I believe those windchimes have specific characteristics that make it special.

I'm guessing that what I know is something really old and isn't practiced anymore and developed into good luck. *shrugs* I mean, if it was just my mother who believed that then I'll have second thoughts, but I know more than one person who are all chinese who thinks that way :P

Plus, if windchimes are considered good luck and keeps bad spirits away, then it would definitely not make sense in the anime. Since we know that Natsume purposely took it down. We all know that Natsume does NOT want bad spirits to come and harm Touko and Shigeru...so then why would he take the windchime down instead of keeping it up? And it doesn't fit with what Touko-san said when she said "It's okay" right after Shigeru mentions Natsume taking it down and them putting it back up.

Also, of all times, why did Reiko appear when the windchime is put up (of course you can argue she could've visited when we weren't looking). Wind chimes are considered to be bad luck because it's sort of like a key that helps open the gateway for spirits in general, good and bad, so then it's easier for them to appear in a certain home, etc.

And really, trust me....fengshui is not so simple as to put a windchime up and bam you get good luck. It gets really extreme and has to do with the position of property and the location of where it's facing (NEWS). I had heard about it ALL the time when my family was picking a place to open their restaurant. I didn't believe in fengshui, so I got quite annoyed about hearing about how every place they checked had bad fengshui =_=;;

Why would monks walk around with staffs that make chime noises then? Obviously to scared and destroy "spirits". I may not be from china but everything I've ever heard about wind chimes, regardless of the location, have always resulted in meaning good luck. I can only assume that maybe your town and the towns around you have a specific reason for linking the wing chime to bad luck. It may be similar to how some villages believe a specific color or animal brings back luck but others believe it's good luck.

In any case I did a search on google and yahoo for "Chinese wind chimes back luck" and actually found nothing at all. Every site I saw mentions that it brings great luck or fortune.

PS. the anime takes place in Japan so our arguments are moot anyway. For all we know the wind chime could have reminded the family of Natsume's weird grandma.

I actually don't even remember natsume taking it down so I cant really comment on it.

Finally it's over. I'm sad that it's over since I really think that this series is really good in terms of character and plot development. Nice to see Natsume not so lonely anymore eventhough he has seen the worst in human and youkai.

I agree with a lot of you, there is still some story lines that need to be tied up but I'm fine with where it ended.

ERR...I was never born in China, I've never even been on the other side of the world before. So I dunno the details about villages and whatnot...it'll be a big village I guess since I know people who has the same knowledge as I do

And dude, internet is not the god of information, just because it's not posted up on the web doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's such a black and white way of thinking.

Japan actually originated from China a VEEEEEERRY long time ago, I have no idea how long. But there are bits and pieces of Japanese culture that I think are quite similar to chinese culture, but maybe that's just subjective, depending on your definition of what's considered to be similar or not.

I also don't remember seeing Natsume taking down the wind chime or anything, I'm totally referring everything to the subs:


Shigeru: "Takashi."


Shigeru: "Tanzaku hazushi darou?"

Now the problem is more like mistranslation or misunderstanding (I just recently realized how bad GSS subs are from the first two epis of fma ): ). Because when you read the subbed line you would assume he's talking about the windchime itself. But in fact, "tanzaku" is referring to that lil piece of paper. I looked up the meaning behind it using the almighty google-san, and it's basically something that's considered as good luck.

Let's just say for argument sake, that everything, this meaning both the windchime and tanzaku is considered good luck. Then someone please explain to me why Natsume took it down..for what logical reason would he take down something that's considered to be GOOD LUCK (and ward off bad spirits), when we all know he doesn't want anything to harm Touko and Shigeru..

Also, please explain to me the meaning behind the seemingly touching exchange between Touko-san and Natsume:


Touko: "Daijoubu yo."


Natsume: "Touko-san..."

I didn't understood the line "you took that down, right? as something about the wind chime being taken down but rather the opposite. And yes the line is somwehat misleading because why would one have to say "took it down" when they're looking at it up there. I'm not a native English speaker to begin with, so I sometimes get the wrong thought of English sentences and my very very little knowledge with Japanese language can never help me in noticing mistranslated lines. With that said, I don't/cannot complain about mistranslated lines, but rather how the translation makes sense. The chances of a translated line being confusing or misleading to me depends on how it matches the character's action, expression or the scene itself.

As for the wind chime, I re-watched a bit of some previous episodes of season 1 to see if there was actually a scene where Natsume took down the wind chime, but i didn't found one or there's no such scene in the anime. In episode 1 however, you can see the wind chime placed in exactly the same spot, but without the paper.

So, Shigeru might have actually referred to the paper in the wind chime that is placed there (not the wind chime that Natsume? took down).

Hahaha that is exactly what I meant by pointing out the difference between the subbed line and the actual line that had "tanzaku" in it; what Shigeru is talking about is NOT the wind chime, but the paper itself.

It's awesome that you found actual proof that he took the tanzaku down. But that still doesn't explain as to why he would do that. If it is considered to be good luck...why would he take it down? Especially since he doesn't want anything to harm Shigeru and Touko...

I only have a little knowledge about Chinese culture and foreign superstitions, so I can't really say anything that will help...

I just re-watched the final episode. My thoughts on the final scene..Shigeru was trying to confirm if Natsume really took down the tanzaku because he was quite certain that the chime had no tanzaku in it. Natsume who normally lies to them when it comes to things that involve youkai, wasn't able to reply at that moment. He was somewhat surprised since he's certain that he did not place the tanzaku back in the chime, so who did?. Proof to that was Natsume's reaction upon hearing the chime making sound; that as if someone's has just placed that tanzaku in the chime at that instant. Touko-san saying that "it's okay" is more of giving us more hint that they already knew all along about the Mystery surrounding Natsume.

I can't believe its over...
What a fantastic, well-written, beautiful series.
Absolutely one of my favorite of all time.

Err...I thought that it was Shigeru and Touko who put it back up (the tanzaku). Because I had my idea on how the windchime is considered bad luck, having Shigeru and Touko put it back up and saying "It's okay"...was something that confirmed my previous speculations in the past episodes on how they both know about Natsume's secret...or atleast have a hunch that there is something going on..

But now that I realized that Shigeru was referring to the "tanzaku" and not the windchime itself...everything doesn't make sense again....

Who would've thought that a simple decor such as the wind chime would make quite a symbol in this anime. I mean it's just a simple decor that you may not notice especially with the youkai's appearing here and there and Nyanko-senei standing out among any others inside Natsume's room. But for the sake of completely understanding that part with the chime, I will watch other subs of the final episode and hopefully that would help.

Niiice!!

Although all Shigeru said (as I posted above) is: tanzaku hazushi darou?

Which I think it's a pretty easy line to translate...

P.S. LOVE your icon XD hahahaha exasperated roy is too funny and cute~

Loved this anime, just great. Eager for more xD

The ending was what I expected him to choose, both youkai and humans. It's great to see all the main side characters get involved in the last epsiode. Too bad Kai just left without saying anything to them directly (except for Natsume, but he was knocked out). I expected Natsume to say that being either Youkai or Human, they are all similar, after all that he has been through. Hopefully they add another season or just add some OVAs, so then I can continue watching it.

Man how I wished it came to a conclusion, because it started with a continuous plot towards the end. But it wouldn't be the same and I wouldn't want it to end anyways. Great series 9/10. Hope there's more.

Btw Natsume and Touko should just get it on already, so much sexual tension there.

I hope there will be another season. I really wanted to know more about Notori's lizard birthmark!

I find it quite funny that people are looking this deeply into the anime. Overall, it was enjoyable despite how touchy and feminine the male protagonist is.

7/10

I'm glad Natsume made the choice he did... :) Both youkai (or ayakashi) and humans are of equal value and importance to him. The ending was really cute, when he invites those two random youkai from before to eat with them, haha. I liked how he made other lasting friends in this season (Taki)...

It was a lovely episode, but it doesn't really feel like an ending. There could be a third season and it would look completely natural (and I want more Natsume Yuujinchou, too). I still really enjoyed this season. It gets a 10 from me.

Reiko sitting in the window with the book of friends behind her at the end was just the perfect way to end this season.

That isn't really a surprise. Why would an anime producer polarize his main character and lose his fanbase?

love this series =D ... ok ending bah ...