| Top 20 Shounen Jump All Time (2013): http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/02/26/the-best-of-the-best-of-manga-shonen-jumps-20-best-sellers-of-all-time/ Top 50 Best-selling Manga (2010): http://mangable.com/forums/general-manga/639-top-50-best-selling-manga-of-all-time.html Top 10 Shounen Jump (graph; Oct 2012): http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-23/top-10-shonen-jump-manga-by-all-time-volume-sales One Piece stays strong at #1. Expectedly, other popular series like Naruto, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, Dragon Ball, Hunter x Hunter, Slam Dunk, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure also sell amazingly well. There are several titles that I have never even heard of though... Share your thoughts on this, and share relevant news/links too. Also I can't seem to find an English report about All time accumulated anime sales rank. Hmmm. |
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| It's better to use this for the top selling manga of all time. It looks like it's more recently updated than all of those. And that last link is only their sales in Japan. |
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-Zeaos said: Kinda hard to believe you when you've watched over 500 episodes and have it rated a 7(which is good).One Piece sucks. |
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-Zeaos said: One Piece sucks. not the best, but not the worst either :p |
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IntroverTurtle said: It's better to use this for the top selling manga of all time. It looks like it's more recently updated than all of those. And that last link is only their sales in Japan. Didn't know Golgo 13 sold THAT well. Same goes for Slam Dunk. Good for them. |
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NoSurrender1690 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: IntroverTurtle said: It's better to use this for the top selling manga of all time. It looks like it's more recently updated than all of those. And that last link is only their sales in Japan. Didn't know Golgo 13 sold THAT well. Same goes for Slam Dunk. Good for them. yep not so shocking for Giolgo if you conser the aount of anime its had as adveritsement ofr that manga Does anyone even care about its anime in Japan? They're pretty much unheard of 'round these parts. |
NoSurrender1690 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: IntroverTurtle said: It's better to use this for the top selling manga of all time. It looks like it's more recently updated than all of those. And that last link is only their sales in Japan. Didn't know Golgo 13 sold THAT well. Same goes for Slam Dunk. Good for them. yep not so shocking for Giolgo if you conser the aount of anime its had as adveritsement ofr that manga There are a lot of anime that get more seasons/movies/episodes and don't sell nearly as much. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: NoSurrender1690 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Didn't know Golgo 13 sold THAT well. Same goes for Slam Dunk. Good for them. yep not so shocking for Giolgo if you conser the aount of anime its had as adveritsement ofr that manga There are a lot of anime that get more seasons/movies/episodes and don't sell nearly as much. I suppose the flip-side is, how many non-gag seinen manga get a new adaptation every 10 years, 3 times consecutively? Hell, these days, isn't it only series with large target audiences that get 50 eps adaptations? I guess that says something. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Yeah, I'm surprised about Golgo too. It looks like they just changed it, I thought it was behind Kochikame.IntroverTurtle said: It's better to use this for the top selling manga of all time. It looks like it's more recently updated than all of those. And that last link is only their sales in Japan. Didn't know Golgo 13 sold THAT well. Same goes for Slam Dunk. Good for them. And also something else that's surprising. There's a lot of sports anime near the top. |
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IntroverTurtle said: shit. you are right.Higashi_no_Kaze said: Yeah, I'm surprised about Golgo too. It looks like they just changed it, I thought it was behind Kochikame.IntroverTurtle said: It's better to use this for the top selling manga of all time. It looks like it's more recently updated than all of those. And that last link is only their sales in Japan. Didn't know Golgo 13 sold THAT well. Same goes for Slam Dunk. Good for them. And also something else that's surprising. There's a lot of sports anime near the top. |
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| one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. |
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riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. |
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| One piece at first place That makes a lot of sense both the manga and Oda sensei deserve it, cos yhu don't get to be the best without good reason, and also bein called DBZ true successor I also read that Oda works 20 hour days working on One Piece *he only sleeps 3 hours* now that's dedication I'm jus sain' |
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IntroverTurtle said: -Zeaos said: Kinda hard to believe you when you've watched over 500 episodes and have it rated a 7(which is good).One Piece sucks. There's the possibility that he didn't really watched all of it. |
| One Piece number one, no surprise there. |
| Mashima worked so hard but his manga's sales was still nowhere near Togashi's. I felt bad for him. |
FlameWingman21 said: I do think that Rave Master (Not Fairy Tail as it is right now) deserves more recognition. However, most mangaka works very hard and don't get recognition, so...Mashima worked so hard but his manga's sales was still nowhere near Togashi's. I felt bad for him. |
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IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. But Dragon Ball franchise is huge,the games sell worldwide,the anime was released in almost all countries.I know that in Japan One Piece is first place for sure,but 4kids fucked the impact of One Piece in the rest of the world. One piece last movie was the one that most sold in Japan.But the last movie of DBZ sold more worldwide. |
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riqueterremoto said: Yes DBZ has the games, I did forget that. But from what I've heard One Piece's games are pretty popular in Japan. And even then, idk how much money overseas tv ratings bring them, probably not a lot. It fucked the impact up for America, but it's still popular elsewhere and even now the Funimation dub is doing fine in America. I think manga sales and dvd sales would go to the mangaka the most. And One Piece has sold over 120 million more volumes than DBZ. Also as One Piece is the most popular in Japan at this moment, there are a lot of ads with the One Piece characters, even One Piece stores(which DBZ probably has) and One Piece monuments or attractions(which I haven't heard of about DBZ yet).IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. But Dragon Ball franchise is huge,the games sell worldwide,the anime was released in almost all countries.I know that in Japan One Piece is first place for sure,but 4kids fucked the impact of One Piece in the rest of the world. One piece last movie was the one that most sold in Japan.But the last movie of DBZ sold more worldwide. Where did you hear about that? And sold as in in disc sales or in the movie theater? |
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IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Yes DBZ has the games, I did forget that. But from what I've heard One Piece's games are pretty popular in Japan. And even then, idk how much money overseas tv ratings bring them, probably not a lot. It fucked the impact up for America, but it's still popular elsewhere and even now the Funimation dub is doing fine in America. I think manga sales and dvd sales would go to the mangaka the most. And One Piece has sold over 120 million more volumes than DBZ. Also as One Piece is the most popular in Japan at this moment, there are a lot of ads with the One Piece characters, even One Piece stores(which DBZ probably has) and One Piece monuments or attractions(which I haven't heard of about DBZ yet).IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. But Dragon Ball franchise is huge,the games sell worldwide,the anime was released in almost all countries.I know that in Japan One Piece is first place for sure,but 4kids fucked the impact of One Piece in the rest of the world. One piece last movie was the one that most sold in Japan.But the last movie of DBZ sold more worldwide. Where did you hear about that? And sold as in in disc sales or in the movie theater? Uh my bad i just tought DBZ movie sold more because was released in so many countries(but the number of countries was lower than i tought).The Japanese sales of One Piece alone really surpassed DBZ worldwide.Sorry http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/? page=&id=_fDRAGONBALLZ02&sort=country&order=ASC&p=.htm As for One Piece Sale:US$ 77,822,122 |
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| I dunno. One Piece having the best manga sales in Japan always seemed like a bad joke to me, ever since I found out about it. I wonder if it's sales would have changed if it wasn't serialized after DB. Luck, luck. As for anime, here. I saw the same ranking in a Japanese website so this ranking seems legit, I don't know if it's updated or not. So NGE had the best sales after The golden egg (?), followed by Bakemonogatari. |
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IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Yes DBZ has the games, I did forget that. But from what I've heard One Piece's games are pretty popular in Japan. And even then, idk how much money overseas tv ratings bring them, probably not a lot. It fucked the impact up for America, but it's still popular elsewhere and even now the Funimation dub is doing fine in America. I think manga sales and dvd sales would go to the mangaka the most. And One Piece has sold over 120 million more volumes than DBZ. Also as One Piece is the most popular in Japan at this moment, there are a lot of ads with the One Piece characters, even One Piece stores(which DBZ probably has) and One Piece monuments or attractions(which I haven't heard of about DBZ yet).IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. But Dragon Ball franchise is huge,the games sell worldwide,the anime was released in almost all countries.I know that in Japan One Piece is first place for sure,but 4kids fucked the impact of One Piece in the rest of the world. One piece last movie was the one that most sold in Japan.But the last movie of DBZ sold more worldwide. Where did you hear about that? And sold as in in disc sales or in the movie theater? You're comparing Japan to Worldwide? and OP games are not that good. |
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tsudecimo said: What do you mean by luck? Both One Piece and Naruto were serialized after Dragon Ball ended. Both were influenced by Dragon Ball. Both were in the same magazine. Both had the same genre. Both aimed at the same demographic. Both were longer than Dragon Ball. But one had 100 millions sales more than Dragon Ball's and the other had 100 millions sales less than Dragon Ball's. Mind explaining why One Piece was lucky and Naruto was unlucky?I dunno. One Piece having the best manga sales in Japan always seemed like a bad joke to me, ever since I found out about it. I wonder if it's sales would have changed if it wasn't serialized after DB. Luck, luck. |
| ^not that I agree with his argument, but I think he meant One Piece was lucky not to have been serialised at the same time as Dragon Ball. |
Ckan said: ^not that I agree with his argument, but I think he meant One Piece was lucky not to have been serialised at the same time as Dragon Ball. The fact that it wasn't serialised at the same time isn't lucky.The time Dragon Ball was being serialised was the Gold Age of Mangas.The Mangas that time sold more,the manga merchant droped at 45% after Gold Age ended,weekly Shounen Jump droped by almost half.In Fact if One Piece and others mangas were published that time they would have sold even more(probably). |
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riqueterremoto said: tsudecimo,how about a little less hate? You didn't even readed One Piece.I don't like Naruto but i don't act like a hater of Naruto in every fucking Tread that it's mentioned. I watched the anime? .-. FlameWingman21 said: What do you mean by luck? Both One Piece and Naruto were serialized after Dragon Ball ended. Both were influenced by Dragon Ball. Both were in the same magazine. Both had the same genre. Both aimed at the same demographic. Both were longer than Dragon Ball. But one had 100 millions sales more than Dragon Ball's and the other had 100 millions sales less than Dragon Ball's. Mind explaining why One Piece was lucky and Naruto was unlucky? When DB ended it left a huge gap in Shounen Jump since it was their biggest hit. So obviously fans would want something to fill that gap and capture them with it's charm like DB did. one piece was able to fill that gap. My point is that the fact that one piece was serialized after DB is very significant and relevant to it's huge success. I think Naruto would have had one piece's success if it was serialized before it and after DB (not to forget having an anime after 2 years instead of 4 would have immensely helped). But those are just ''what if'' scenarios and theories, nothing worth going into a heated argument for and they can't really be backed up with substantial evidence. I don't think you can call Naruto unlucky. Kishimoto was going to give up if Naruto didn't become a hit, it was his last try to get a seralized manga, so Naruto's success also has it's fair share of luck. |
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IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. Good joke . Do you even know that DB (not DBZ) sold worldwide , let alone DBZ . Its games sold worldwide too . and you still think oda ? Nah ... One piece is only popular in japan . |
| One Piece wouldn't even exist without DBZ, what's with these talk about what if One Piece was serializing beside DBZ? -.- -Klad- said: IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. Good joke . Do you even know that DB (not DBZ) sold worldwide , let alone DBZ . Its games sold worldwide too . and you still think oda ? Nah ... One piece is only popular in japan . Well you seem confident. I am not denying it, but it would be much better if you post a link along too with your statement. |
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riqueterremoto said: Well I never said the anime didn't sell more I just said that's probably unlikely and we don't really have the stats. I don't think most fans of DBZ bought it as it's a long series and most of them are kids, they just watched it on tv. And then I don't know how much money Japan and then the mangakas make off of the tv ratings.Uh my bad i just tought DBZ movie sold more because was released in so many countries(but the number of countries was lower than i tought).The Japanese sales of One Piece alone really surpassed DBZ worldwide.Sorry http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/? page=&id=_fDRAGONBALLZ02&sort=country&order=ASC&p=.htm As for One Piece Sale:US$ 77,822,122 It's surpassed it in manga sales. I can't see anything about One Piece there. You said the last Dragonball movie sold more worldwide than the One Piece movie, I can't see that on that site. -Zeaos said: I don't even know exactly what you're talking about. But yes Japan does buy more anime and manga related goods than the rest of the world combined. It is their product made for themselves. Good =/= sell wellYou're comparing Japan to Worldwide? and OP games are not that good. -Klad- said: That DB sold more worldwide with it's manga? Because One Piece has sold like 50 million more copies just in Japan than DB has sold worldwide. If you're talking about anime or games, we don't have stats on that. But from what I hear One Piece's games are very popular in Japan so I wouldn't count it fully out even though they're probably less popular elsewhere. And how many ads are Dragonball characters in? And One Piece's anime has been airing longer and staying in the upper half of the ratings.IntroverTurtle said: riqueterremoto said: Oda definitely. His manga's made the most money, I think One Piece might be in more ads, and the movies break records.one thing i would like to know,who is the richest Oda-sensei or Toryama-sensei. Good joke . Do you even know that DB (not DBZ) sold worldwide , let alone DBZ . Its games sold worldwide too . and you still think oda ? Nah ... One piece is only popular in japan . |
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IntroverTurtle said: That DB sold more worldwide with it's manga? Because One Piece has sold like 50 million more copies just in Japan than DB has sold worldwide. If you're talking about anime or games, we don't have stats on that. But from what I hear One Piece's games are very popular in Japan so I wouldn't count it fully out even though they're probably less popular elsewhere. And how many ads are Dragonball characters in? And One Piece's anime has been airing longer and staying in the upper half of the ratings. No I mean that even DB was a success , let alone DBZ . Yeah , One Piece is only popular and probably the most popular manga on Japan only , but DBZ sold more worldwide . Worldwide sales > japan sales . By the way , DBZ is classic man , I don't know anyone who hasn't watched DBZ . |
-Klad- said: And One Piece has more episodes than DB and DBZ combined, and their manga is the same thing like Naruto. IntroverTurtle said: That DB sold more worldwide with it's manga? Because One Piece has sold like 50 million more copies just in Japan than DB has sold worldwide. If you're talking about anime or games, we don't have stats on that. But from what I hear One Piece's games are very popular in Japan so I wouldn't count it fully out even though they're probably less popular elsewhere. And how many ads are Dragonball characters in? And One Piece's anime has been airing longer and staying in the upper half of the ratings. No I mean that even DB was a success , let alone DBZ . Yeah , One Piece is only popular and probably the most popular manga on Japan only , but DBZ sold more worldwide . Worldwide sales > japan sales . By the way , DBZ is classic man , I don't know anyone who hasn't watched DBZ . "One Piece is only popular and probably the most popular manga on Japan only , but DBZ sold more worldwide . Worldwide sales > japan sales " What has sold more worldwide? Manga, anime, or games? Do you have any proof? (Keep in mind I've already told you One Piece's manga has sold more worldwide and this thread is about manga) BTW saying DBZ is classic and everyone you know(which is about 0.00000000000001% of the world's population) has heard of it is not proof. |
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-Klad- said: IntroverTurtle said: That DB sold more worldwide with it's manga? Because One Piece has sold like 50 million more copies just in Japan than DB has sold worldwide. If you're talking about anime or games, we don't have stats on that. But from what I hear One Piece's games are very popular in Japan so I wouldn't count it fully out even though they're probably less popular elsewhere. And how many ads are Dragonball characters in? And One Piece's anime has been airing longer and staying in the upper half of the ratings. No I mean that even DB was a success , let alone DBZ . Yeah , One Piece is only popular and probably the most popular manga on Japan only , but DBZ sold more worldwide . Worldwide sales > japan sales . By the way , DBZ is classic man , I don't know anyone who hasn't watched DBZ . You sure are naive. Japanese sales dwarves international sales, that's an obvious fact. Btw I haven't found reliable source about richest mangaka income, there's one here but I doubt the source. Then I got that Toriyama's net worth and Oda's annual income per 2010. Just do some simpe math here and we can estimate who is the richest. I might be an OP fan but I speak the truth and stats :/ |
IntroverTurtle said: -Klad- said: And One Piece has more episodes than DB and DBZ combined, and their manga is the same thing like Naruto. IntroverTurtle said: That DB sold more worldwide with it's manga? Because One Piece has sold like 50 million more copies just in Japan than DB has sold worldwide. If you're talking about anime or games, we don't have stats on that. But from what I hear One Piece's games are very popular in Japan so I wouldn't count it fully out even though they're probably less popular elsewhere. And how many ads are Dragonball characters in? And One Piece's anime has been airing longer and staying in the upper half of the ratings. No I mean that even DB was a success , let alone DBZ . Yeah , One Piece is only popular and probably the most popular manga on Japan only , but DBZ sold more worldwide . Worldwide sales > japan sales . By the way , DBZ is classic man , I don't know anyone who hasn't watched DBZ . "One Piece is only popular and probably the most popular manga on Japan only , but DBZ sold more worldwide . Worldwide sales > japan sales " What has sold more worldwide? Manga, anime, or games? Do you have any proof? (Keep in mind I've already told you One Piece's manga has sold more worldwide and this thread is about manga) BTW saying DBZ is classic and everyone you know(which is about 0.00000000000001% of the world's population) has heard of it is not proof. And what do episodes show ? Nope , One Piece is not that great in worldwide , only in Japan . Ok then , go and ask the whole internet if they know the name "Goku" . |
-Klad- said: Nope , One Piece is not that great in worldwide , only in Japan . Doesn't change the fact that One Piece sold more in Japan and outside Japan combined compare to DBZ, also in Japan and outside of Japan. |
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-Klad- said: I'm going to take it as your trolling since you didn't answer any of my questions and will ignore you from now on in this thread(at least). Just asking me to ask people if they know who Goku is, typical blind DB supporter.And what do episodes show ? Nope , One Piece is not that great in worldwide , only in Japan . Ok then , go and ask the whole internet if they know the name "Goku" . |
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IntroverTurtle said: -Klad- said: I'm going to take it as your trolling since you didn't answer any of my questions and will ignore you from now on in this thread(at least). Just asking me to ask people if they know who Goku is, typical blind DB supporter.And what do episodes show ? Nope , One Piece is not that great in worldwide , only in Japan . Ok then , go and ask the whole internet if they know the name "Goku" . lol alright then . DB supporter ? lol DB is not even in my favs . |
NoSurrender1690 said: Well I think that is mostly irrelevant as he's talking about the character in DB. Obviously he would ask about the character in the manga not just Goku in general. Since this is a thread about manga and we'd been talking about DB, I don't think he needed to specify.lol indeed hes does not know Goku is older than DB you could as litriture people who goku is ie people who dont care that DB is and thy will nkow they will know the name so saying people people will know goku is a stupid agument [ in the most popluls nation in the world [ as who Wukong/Goku is than they will know not form anime ] But he is someone who thinks that in order to be a supporter of an anime you have to have it in your favorites. |
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| He just means that one piece is less and popular and successful than DB outside of Japan. Which is a fact. This argument is just built on misunderstandings.. |
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tsudecimo said: He just means that one piece is less and popular and successful than DB outside of Japan. Which is a fact. This argument is just built on misunderstandings.. This guy is the only one who understands it . congrat . |
NoSurrender1690 said: one piece sales in Japan alone have osld more than DB outisde of Japan so yes |
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