| Alright... of course most people agree that Berserk is a great manga... but with sometimes months on end inbetween a single 20-ish page installment, what's the point? At this rate, Miura will die before finishing Berserk. Perpetually being on a cliffhanger is really annoying. Don't know about everyone else, but it really kills the story for me. Any thoughts? Is it still worth reading consistently despite the long waits? |
hikkyJan 24, 2012 7:15 PM
| well maybe it's jus because you don't like berserk all that much. Yeah, the waits are long and the reading is short,but that's missing the point. I'd read a single page of Berserk over 20 mangas of naruto anytime. The level of quality Miura delivers is far beyond anything else you'd see from other artists (speaking of "graphically" wise and of the story's plot). If you think Berserk is not worth reading anymore, then too bad for you, I don't think anyone's gonna cry about it. The point here is, Berserk is far above the mere term of epicness and I think a little patience (and 13 bucks every time a manga comes out =P ) is not too much a big price for it. So yeah, long live Miura ^.^ |
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Waza said: well maybe it's jus because you don't like berserk all that much. Yeah, the waits are long and the reading is short,but that's missing the point. I'd read a single page of Berserk over 20 mangas of naruto anytime. The level of quality Miura delivers is far beyond anything else you'd see from other artists (speaking of "graphically" wise and of the story's plot). If you think Berserk is not worth reading anymore, then too bad for you, I don't think anyone's gonna cry about it. The point here is, Berserk is far above the mere term of epicness and I think a little patience (and 13 bucks every time a manga comes out =P ) is not too much a big price for it. So yeah, long live Miura ^.^ Patience is one thing, waiting decades for a proper end to the story is another. I like the manga, but I don't think any manga would work as a never-ending story. |
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Talvi said: Just wait a couple of years and reread it again. Repeat it until its done. To see a new berserk chapter come out and then just ignore it and say: "no I'm going to wait one more year until i read this", is beyond hard. It's almost impossible. And at the same time how can you risk doing so? If you live your life without berserk for a couple of years you'll loose your attachment to it, and you will slowly forget about it. So imo that suggestion wasn't very good, but people are different and so are their opinions |
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hikky said: Patience is one thing, waiting decades for a proper end to the story is another. I like the manga, but I don't think any manga would work as a never-ending story. You are completly right about your point of view on berserk. It does kill the story and the good aspects of it. But i am too obsessed with knowing the end, i will just continue reading every chapter whenever it comes out until i get tired of it and drop it maybe for good. Until next chapter comes out i will fill my free time with reading and watching random stuff and also watching other on-going mangas and anime series and TV series. Know that TV show that started quite well, then it got retarded over the years ... it's called LOST, i am still wasting time watching it when it comes out although the quality clearly drop, but not from the waiting alone. I just want to see the damn ending and the answers to the mysteries in their dumbass dragged out overrated and probably very simplistic idea. I wouldn't call that trolling, rather a warning. :D |
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| wtf ? it was just the last 2 chapters... just to introduce the ''new world'' fantasia.. thats all, not like it will be forever like this.. :o) |
| I'm only up to volume 5 . I don't care |
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| I see a lot of discussion about how annoying the chapter breaks are, but there are always defensive voices almost saying "it'll be good once you read it in one go." I'm sorry guys, but I'm pretty sure reading this in one go isnt going to make any difference. You'll enjoy the story for about 10 volumes or something, then you're going to realise the plot is slowing down, then it's stopped, then a stupid witch girl has appeared, then people arent talking anymore...and....wait, WTF is a 'femto' again? I mean it's one thing for an author to worry about how current readers are perceiving his work, and another to think about future readers, but at this point in time it looks like Miura is going to lose in both categories. Sure the art is fantastic, the plot hasnt been flushed down the toilet, but after 300 chapters who can honestly say they've been satisfied with how things have turned out? When you were reading Berserk back in the good old days with demonic rape occuring, you were relishing the idea of Guts getting his revenge. Guys, we were in diapers when that infamous rape scene occured in the manga. I dont even remember how or why the fucking rape even happened, how can I relish a revenge for something I can barely remember? Why's Guts only got one eye open? I CANT FUCKING REMEMBER ANYMORE. Even if I marathoned the manga in a week, I still wouldnt remember, there's just too much lapse in storytelling. People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) /end rant |
BeatnikOct 13, 2009 5:46 PM
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? /end rant yes i noticed :((( but hey, from chapter 308 the storyline seems to moving well) i mean we are back to guts) |
smokes said: Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? /end rant yes i noticed :((( I as well. Finally reading through Berserk was awesome... for the first 15 volumes. After that, it started to feel almost shoneny in terms of the pacing, sidetracks, and focus on fights versus some relatively unimportant people. I'll probably still follow it, since I don't have any of the pent-up fatigue that long time fans have right now, but I wasn't really awed by it the way I expected. It wasn't bad at any point, just that the quality in the post-eclipse world feels like something I could get from a lot of other currently running (and more frequently serialized) manga. |
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) /end rant I just read it all and yes, it's been entertaining consistently, but that comes with not having to wait for the pace to pick up. If it was getting slower with no action, I just calmly kept reading and wasn't bothered by it at all. But when I realize I just read almost 20 years of work in 3 days, it puts things into perspective. Also, any kind of conclusion seems to be drifting away - Guts is leaving to the faraway land and instead of getting closer to the end, a new and probably long arc begins. Which really sucks now. And I love the witch btw. |
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| I have been reading Berserk for ages now.. The point in reading it anymore you ask? Simple.. I enjoy it.. I do not think it will 'go on forever' either some very key events have occured things are moving along.. SO honestly its a simple answer for me at least. |
| About 99% of the mal user has marathon-ed about 150 chapters of the story, at least, the tempo has always been slow for berserk ever since Miura got so burnt out after mass publishing the story a couple of years back. As for the story, i don't see any drop in quality, just a change of perceptive, that's all thanks to the fact that guts now has companions again, and can't go from boss fight to boss fight solo, and i like that, my favorite arc in berserk is in-fact the arc about the trolls, followed by the lost children, why? Because i wouldn't like the manga as much a i do if it was only hack-and-slash after the eclipse. Tl;dr The quality is the same, with a different perspective. |
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| I believe most of us have a life outside of just reading manga so stopping every month or so to continue reading doesn't really seem like much of a bother. |
Kuroe_Kurose said: Make that half a year instead of a month.I believe most of us have a life outside of just reading manga so stopping every month or so to continue reading doesn't really seem like much of a bother. |
| well I'm almost same opinion as Beatnik told before,but I dun think it doesn't entertain anymore,berserk isn't an epic failure lol:D Especially I loved Kushans,it made manga more livelier,but it'd be more wiser not to prolong story anymore |
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| The point? The thing I've been waiting for most is to see Caska brought back to normal and for the God Hand to be destroyed. It looks like it'll be a long ass time before that happens though. I don't know how long it's gonna take to see them get to Elfhelm. |
| Keep reading Berserk until the day I die....hmmmm....sounds like a good plan....I'm in ^^ I simply enjoy berserk that much....yeah it sucks to wait for about 3 months for the new chapter...but oh well, you can' have everything right?.....and a good friend of mine once said "shit happens"....... ...rNr... |
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Nope. In fact, I thought it was pretty awful up until around volume 7 or so, it was just tremendously awful world-building and an uninteresting chain of "woe is them!", which served no purpose other than to force one to go "woe is them!", like some bleeding Clannad ripoff, only with less interesting characters. The rest has just gotten better and better. Different, but definitely better. Considering the length of this, it's not exactly weird it changes massively as it progresses. It's going from dark fantasy to high fantasy, slowly but surely, I find that change pretty cool. Especially as it's fueled by the villain and not exactly a heartening change for your common man. |
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| I hate the long wait as much as the next but the story is quit possibly one of the best written stories in manga.I love all the characters (Except puck I dont diss like him I just tolerate him).All the characters have substance to them.... and despite Muira being a extremely sexist person(You know if it has a penis it's going to rape something no matter what it happens to be) He writes good female characters. I liked Farnes after she stopped getting off to burning people.I liked the witch chick and I love casca ...if their is one thing I want to see as much as gutts horribly mutilating Griffith it is casca getting better.She is one of my favorite characters of all time I want her back badly. As a aspiring artist and a fan of good story writing I will read this manga to the end of time.It is one of the few mangas that I read over again at least once a year....and in time I will own every volume. Plus soon we will have a new anime so It will make the wait go by faster But in tell then I will wait for nov 12 for ch 317 like every one else and I will most likely enjoy it |
Kurosagi91Nov 2, 2010 8:16 AM
| Anyone who says they prefer the state of the manga as it is now, with its degenerating shonen tendencies of featuring long extended scenes with kids and stupid berserker suits, compared to way back when Casca used to speak and not be fucking retard is A BALD FACED LIAR. This manga sucks donkey dick right now. Not even donkey balls, it doesn't even have the decency to go on its knees and suck balls, it's so lazy it just bends over and sucks donkey dick. It's painfully obvious Miura is, whether by his own will or not, aiming at a younger demographic. Despite the violence on display, because everyone knows kids watch/read violent media all the time anyway, the publisher of Berserk is shrewd and cynically capturing high school kids' pocket money via the stupid kid characters and shonen-level bullshit on display in this failure of a manga. Why do you think it's so popular now? It's even getting an anime remake! Because it's aiming at lowest common denominator. Miura has literally sold out, and is creatively bankrupt. |
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| Yes, because things aimed at adults are obviously inherently better than things aimed at youngsters? And because there's... What, exactly, in it now which was not before, which makes it more suitable for a younger audience? Magic? Magic armour? The presence of kids? What the hell? I don't see any connexion between that and worse quality nor a different age demographic. Possibly a shift in demographic from people who get off misery porn to people who enjoy occasional misery porn and frequent fantastical elements. It can't be the lack of violence or rape, as it is still present, and besides, anyone finding either as a sign of quality is quite juvenile to begin with. Beatnik said: Why do you think it's so popular now? It's even getting an anime remake! Which as far as we know will include or possibly only be, just like the first anime, the Golden Age arc, the part I'll assume you did not think aimed for the common lowest denominator and therefore should not be popular? People need to read all the preceding chapters to get to the more lighthearted arc it's in now, they can't presciently judge "oh there will be a bit less rape and some more silly side characters no one likes later on". Also, violence and sex are the commonly most accepted lowest denominators, and they have been quite constant. tl;dr you just mad 'cause you nostalgia |
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Degenerating quality in the story?......didn't feel like it.....it felt more of a transition from a dark fantasy to a high fantasy....or maybe that's just me.......anyways I'm just saying.....just like the golden age arc it's the main theme was about war...now we go to the Black Swordsman/Retribution arc and Hawk of the Millennium empire arc it's main theme was dark fantasy....and now moving on to the Fantasia arc you guessed it, it's main theme is high fantasy with a touch of dark fantasy here and there..... so it's not really a degenerating quality in the story line...or maybe that's just me...anyways, I'm just saying..... |
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Beatnik said: I see a lot of discussion about how annoying the chapter breaks are, but there are always defensive voices almost saying "it'll be good once you read it in one go." I'm sorry guys, but I'm pretty sure reading this in one go isnt going to make any difference. You'll enjoy the story for about 10 volumes or something, then you're going to realise the plot is slowing down, then it's stopped, then a stupid witch girl has appeared, then people arent talking anymore...and....wait, WTF is a 'femto' again? I mean it's one thing for an author to worry about how current readers are perceiving his work, and another to think about future readers, but at this point in time it looks like Miura is going to lose in both categories. Sure the art is fantastic, the plot hasnt been flushed down the toilet, but after 300 chapters who can honestly say they've been satisfied with how things have turned out? When you were reading Berserk back in the good old days with demonic rape occuring, you were relishing the idea of Guts getting his revenge. Guys, we were in diapers when that infamous rape scene occured in the manga. I dont even remember how or why the fucking rape even happened, how can I relish a revenge for something I can barely remember? Why's Guts only got one eye open? I CANT FUCKING REMEMBER ANYMORE. Even if I marathoned the manga in a week, I still wouldnt remember, there's just too much lapse in storytelling. People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) /end rant /applauds This is exactly how I feel about the manga, I am in love with the original concept of the story and how it was worked out (the arc before the "infamous scene" was so amazingly done) but I just can't be bothered to read it anymore. |
| Whats the point in reading berserk? Well if the quality doesnt decline, we could get the best final battle in..well ever!! no matter how many decades it takes, isn't worth it to see the best battle ever. Guts vs Griffith. Holy Shit. Man. The Word Epic. Doesn't even come close. |
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) /end rant I'm currently in the process of marathoning v1-34. I'd break it down like this: Pre-Golden Age (v1-3.5): Decent but unispiring monster-of-the-week-ing. Guts and the bleakness of it all held my interest, but Berserk would never have been anything special, had it remained the same. I've read at least one review by someone who felt compelled to drop Berserk before it truly got going because of its lackluster beginning. Golden Age (v3.5-13/14): Had a bit of everything. Arguably the best character-focused story ever written. The back-stories of the characters, political intrique, violence, love, hate and wonderful art combined to form a masterpiece. From the very beginning of the arc, it was always building up to Griffith's fall from grace, and the climax will never be erased from my memory. Such astounding character growth and fast-paced progression only occur when everything is planned out in advance; not just created in a rush to keep the series going. Fairy Apostle (up to v16/17?): As good as this arc was, what did it add to Guts' quest for vengeance and his relationship with Casca? Absolutely nothing. Like everything that followed, it could be described as filler. I'd rate the arc around the 8/10 mark because it stayed true to Berserk's dark tone and included some good new discardable characters, but the fact remains this arc is where the progression stopped. The Heretic Arc (v17-21?): Why did Griffith need a repeat performance of the eclipse, reliant on Guts and Casca escaping from what happened, in order to be reborn and edge closer to his dream? It made no sense. The entire arc was a clever way of not adding anything but deceiving people into thinking it was important. I enjoyed the arc immensely because of the excellent fights and twisted nature of the story-telling, as well as more great new discardable characters, but AGAIN it added very little of value. How long did it take just for Griffith to reappear? Traveling, Witches & JRPGing (v22-26+?): This is where Berserk started to come off the rails. The reunion with Griffith, fight with Zodd and breakdown of Guts relationship with Casca hinted at things finaly getting back on-track. But what happened after this? Guts formed his own little party of girls and kids. With so many characters around for comic relief on top of Puck now, and each of them receiving more and more panel time, the series will only continue to stray from how it began. The long-arse explanations about magic, spirtutal realms and a village needing to be saved from trolls/mythical creatures made it seem more likea JRPG than the Berserk of old. Even the raping shown was tame. Sadly, I can only see things getting worse, now that Guts' JRPG party and comic relief are a permanent fixture. I don't dislike the characters but their continued existence only highlights how Berserk has changed for the worse. Berserk started in 1990. That was before FFVII started a JRPG boom and the internet connected people. Berserk changing is probably as much to do with Miura being influenced by the times as it is to do with his editor's influence. ------ As for stricking with Berserk, the slow Japanese releases may actually work in my favour. Currently, there are 36 Japanese volumes released. There are 34 English volumes released. Dark Horse will soon catch-up with the Japanese releases. And when they do, I'll be able to buy and read one volume a year, hopefully. With me following so many other series, it should work out quite well. It'd be pointless to wait months for 20 or so new pages. Waiting a year for 200+ pages all it once is much more satisfying. |
AironicallyHumanJul 5, 2011 8:31 AM
| Here are my post-v34 comments. List tag abuse: c306: "Berserk's world has transformed into JRPGland. What happened to Guts' vengeance and Casca's love? Subplots within subsplots and Guts' kids & women harem mask a lack of progress since v13. Too much lightheartedness; too many needless characters." I just don't know where the Berserk the anime made me love has disappeared to. The last time the manga was the dark fantasy epic with a sense of purpose I remembered it to be was at the beginning of Griffith's monster army arc; the reunion and Guts' mental collapse as he tried to protect Casca's retarded self. Since then, he's got himself a tweens + women + stoic boredom harem, fought monsters plucked right out of JRPGs, learned all about witchcraft... and that's about it. He's off to Elfland in a desperate attempt to make his beloved less retarded, while Griffith just finished fighting a needless/scripted battle against Arabian invaders, but just what exactly has changed since the infamous events of the eclipse? Griffith, as well as his four other Godly friends, are all alive and well and there was never any need for a long-arse (but very good) rebirth arc, or page after page spent on one of God's fingers showing his Godliness to a whole swarm of newbie characters. The battling against the invading army might have been semi-interesting, if not for the there being prophecies/dreams revealing that the path to success was set long before. (Why does Birdman even need a medium when he's one with the script-writer of his newly created JRPG kingdom?...) I'm already tired of, in every other panel, silly humour getting chucked in, all in the name of giving Guts' fanclub increased panel time. And, I swear, the series is becoming more and more like a shounen work as time passes by. -- A monster within (...WHY CAN'T GUTS HATE WITHOUT CONVERSING WITH A DOG!?) needing to be internally fought; the monster powering-up the hero during his time's of need and the hero gradually losing himself to the darkness within. -- Everyone the hero encounters changing after viewing the straightforward manliness of the hero, time after time; becoming better people. -- The hero finding himself with a harem of girls/ladies; the lot of them finding themselves in love with his heroic self but never takingtheir feelings beyond the realm of purity. -- The hero and his nemesis never actually fighting, until the series ends, but occasionally sharing meaningful moments of eye contact together. ...Man, I'd rather just catch-up with Naruto - at least that never started out nasty before making its lead wear an orange jumpsuit. And Sasuke's betrayal/transformation into a weird lady man wasn't anywhere near as rage worthy. I'll keep buying the releases. I'll keep reading them, too--the art is too tasty to say no to. But the story is never going to end. All the author is intent on doing is keeping the money rolling in with slow releases. Not even the big bad dragon was killed, during the whole witch saga, so God knows how long it'll be before Guts even kills the all-new mid-bosses. PS: Casca's dirty looks as Guts keeps saving her retarded arse are starting to make me dislike her. You just know she's going to betray Guts for her demonic baby/the rapist, once she retains her memories, so it's seriously pissing me off how much the leading man is suffering for her. I DON'T CARE IF HE BIT HER BOOB; SHE DESERVED IT! PS2: I liked Farnese more when she got aroused over people buring to death/inflicting pain. Did her sexual desires vanish once she became mother to Casca? |
AironicallyHumanJul 10, 2011 7:26 PM
hikky said: Alright... of course most people agree that Berserk is a great manga... but with sometimes months on end inbetween a single 20-ish page installment, what's the point? At this rate, Miura will die before finishing Berserk. Perpetually being on a cliffhanger is really annoying. Don't know about everyone else, but it really kills the story for me. Any thoughts? Is it still worth reading consistently despite the long waits? I doubt I'll still be reading berserk as a middle-aged man, finished or not. This is a problem with a lot of manga... the nice thing about books or movies or even anime is that they tend to tell a story... with an end included. First I would like to say that I am a big Berserk fan have been for years now, and i find your argument to be completely and totally valid. I always knew that Berserk was going to be a long running manga, and I normally don't have a problem with those types of mangas (One Piece is one of my favorites). The problem lies with the author, yes Kentaro Miura is a master artist and excellent story teller but, for lack of a better word, he is incredibly lazy. I consider myself a patient person, but there is a difference between being patient and waiting months or sometimes years for miniscule amounts of content. I'd like to say i will continue to read Berserk as long as Miura continues to write/draw it but i know eventually it will fade away in my mind, unless he concludes it before that happens. I think that if Miura doesn't wrap up the story in 10 years or less it will begin to fall apart. He is not the type of author who writes weekly or monthly he releases chapters at his leisure and progress the plot of his manga at a whim. I still think Miura was at his best during the Golden Age Arc, back then he had more pressure and he had momentum. Now he is constantly distracted by mere trifles (IDOLM@STER I'm looking at you) which seems to keep Berserk on the back-burner. The only thing i can say to give you some sort of comfort is that with the release of his new movie(s), he might gain that momentum he once had and might start releasing monthly again. This is of course highly unlikely knowing his track record but more of a possibility now then ever before. Oh and for those people that dismiss hikky argument by stating that he needs that time to draw the amazing panels he makes, that's nonsense. He doesn't need 6 months to draw 17-20 pages, my best friend is an artist and animator and although he may not be as good as Miura he does 4x the work in a month; while getting paid a meager amount. |
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) I marathoned it recently (last six months, took me about two weeks). I didn't notice any drop in the quality of the story, but it does annoy me that I see no end to it. I hope it doesn't end abruptly. I remember thinking the quality of the art dropped when it started to be Miura and <insert studio name>, but looking at random chapters now doesn't seem to agree with that memory. Must have been my imagination. |
| Berserk has always been epic to me, but I really hope the story continues with DARK fantasy. That's maybe what most people wants? And if it's REALLY true that Miura is Lazy, I hope he has planned for the future how the Berserk manga will conclude and how much time it will take at his pace. Don't dissapoint me, Miura, don't get Berserk manga into a mediocrity. Keep it seinen, Go back to Berserk roots!! |
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Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) Last October, I read Berserk for the first time, from Chapter 1 to Chapter 325. I didn't even know until reading this thread that there have recently been half-year gaps between twenty-page chapters. Everything was relatively seamless. I really enjoy the way he gradually introduces characters, and every important character (even unimportant ones) are around for a while and are given an opportunity to be fleshed out a little. As far as the plot goes, the parts that I thought moved slowly must have been agonizing for those who read it over years. But looking at the entire work as a whole, I think the pacing is pretty fantastic, and the digressions necessary. None of the more controversial elements (a new party of comrades, introduction of magic, the hell hound) seem out of place to me. In fact, it seems like every one of those pieces were premeditated from the start. The art continued to amaze me from beginning to, erm, middle, and I never noticed any significant loss of quality. Frankly, I think that the qualms people are saying here are really a result of the medium of manga in the first place. Manga is inherently going to be slow to develop based on the schedule of the magazines, and it seems that stories like Berserk have outgrown this medium. Come at me if you'd like for comparing the two, but when I first got into Bleach, I read from the beginning all the way to when Ichigo had entered Hueco Mundo and was fighting the Arrancar. I thought the entire story was fucking fantastic up to that point, and when I had to start waiting a week or two between chapters, I got less excited, and the reading experience seemed less consistent. It's because you can't get lost in a book in 20 pages the same way you can with 1000 pages. I think this is just an inevitability in reading a manga that has yet to finish, when the author has an indefinite contract. It's just something we're gonna have to deal with. |
| rofl just marathoned 1-325 in a few days. Fuck what an awesome way to spend time. And no, the manga hasn't gotten slower. Berserk has an impeccably precise way of approaching character development. This is just another opportunity to showcase that. |
Obby said: rofl just marathoned 1-325 in a few days. Fuck what an awesome way to spend time. And no, the manga hasn't gotten slower. Berserk has an impeccably precise way of approaching character development. This is just another opportunity to showcase that. Its going to start feeling slow for you soon, trust me lol. I marathoned like 100+ chapters, years ago and i have been waiting and waiting and waiting for plot progression, its like watching the lord of the rings trilogy frame by frame. Miura releases chapters very leisurely. |
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| hmm I've actually heard from some people who marathoned it recently that it gets better when Guts gets some companions. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
AzureEclipse said: Beatnik said: People who happen to have marathoned this up to chapter 300-ish, please chime in with your thoughts. Have you noticed degenerating quality in the story? Or has Berserk been consistently entertaining? I just cant see myself re-reading this manga in the future, or if I do I'm sure the drop in quality will hit me like a slap in the face. (I'm talking about story, the art is perfectly fine) Last October, I read Berserk for the first time, from Chapter 1 to Chapter 325. I didn't even know until reading this thread that there have recently been half-year gaps between twenty-page chapters. Everything was relatively seamless. I really enjoy the way he gradually introduces characters, and every important character (even unimportant ones) are around for a while and are given an opportunity to be fleshed out a little. As far as the plot goes, the parts that I thought moved slowly must have been agonizing for those who read it over years. But looking at the entire work as a whole, I think the pacing is pretty fantastic, and the digressions necessary. None of the more controversial elements (a new party of comrades, introduction of magic, the hell hound) seem out of place to me. In fact, it seems like every one of those pieces were premeditated from the start. The art continued to amaze me from beginning to, erm, middle, and I never noticed any significant loss of quality. Frankly, I think that the qualms people are saying here are really a result of the medium of manga in the first place. Manga is inherently going to be slow to develop based on the schedule of the magazines, and it seems that stories like Berserk have outgrown this medium. Come at me if you'd like for comparing the two, but when I first got into Bleach, I read from the beginning all the way to when Ichigo had entered Hueco Mundo and was fighting the Arrancar. I thought the entire story was fucking fantastic up to that point, and when I had to start waiting a week or two between chapters, I got less excited, and the reading experience seemed less consistent. It's because you can't get lost in a book in 20 pages the same way you can with 1000 pages. I think this is just an inevitability in reading a manga that has yet to finish, when the author has an indefinite contract. It's just something we're gonna have to deal with. This. |
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