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Mar 22, 2009 3:07 PM

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If there is one thing i hate the most in series (other than obvious multi season series that get cut after 1 season) it is when the last episode in the season is so completely not epic that you couldn't tell it was the season finale unless you were told straight to your face.

Lets face it, there was no epic finish, no epic struggle, no epic revelation. Just a short, maybe 5 minute fight where toma punched the mage a few times and then hit the golem. Never any suspense and it never really looked like he was even trying, much less worrying that index might actually die. He spent more time doing his "generic perfect good guy hero" rant than actually fighting her!

And yes, i agree with the person saying the best part of the episode was the end scene hinting at the second season which is a shame because generally when a series hits its last episode, you expect something memorable.

I've never read the novel or what not, but the story cannot be this... dry in its native format. This season has not just been an introduction to the world and characters, it has been maybe 1/3 that at most and the rest random daily life. The least they could have done was add some resemblance of struggle to it other than Touma creating his inter ability harem. I can't think of a time i saw an anime with a season finale so uninspiring.
 
Mar 22, 2009 3:56 PM

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So they throw Aleister Crowley's motives and Laura Stuart at us... only to announce that they're animating a spinoff series instead. Such a great move that was.
 
Mar 22, 2009 4:14 PM

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Ha. I love the part when Touma comes to the doctor and says that he didn't get hurt this time. It seems like JCStaff knows that and decided to poke fun at that.
 
Mar 22, 2009 5:12 PM

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So they throw Aleister Crowley's motives and Laura Stuart at us... only to announce that they're animating a spinoff series instead. Such a great move that was.


The wait for 2nd season of Index would have stayed the same anyway. Maybe even the staff ain't the same.
With the epilogue, they wanted to show two things:
1. There will definetely be a 2nd season
2. 2nd season will be more connetced with the main plot

Ha. I love the part when Touma comes to the doctor and says that he didn't get hurt this time. It seems like JCStaff knows that and decided to poke fun at that.


They made fun of that few times already.
 
Mar 22, 2009 5:41 PM

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I'm really enjoyed this end ! =)

But after this ending, a next is obligatory, there are so much things without answer !


 
Mar 22, 2009 6:13 PM

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The series itself doesn't have a good story to begin with. There were just too many characters. Although, it's not the main factor of why the show didn't shine at all. Probably, because the story is not hitting on the right direction. It might be intended at the very beginning. Therefore, it requires another season.

Anyway, this series itself has its own ups and downs. I didn't fully enjoyed it like the other shows last year. There were a couple of good ones and a lot of bad ones too. It doesn't stand out too much except for its entire set of characters. That's the only thing that kept me watching until the end. I am not after the story anymore after I watched it halfway. I watched this show simply for fun and that's it.

Another thing is that the action scenes were always cut out short. Each episode doesn't stir you up a bit to watch the next episode. However, I did enjoy watching him build up his harem.

Therefore, I gave this a final score of 6. It's still watchable but I wouldn't recommend watching it if you are after the story of this show. I hope that the story will be filled up on season two.


 
Mar 22, 2009 6:21 PM

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it wasn't a great ending to the season, but wasn't bad per se. It left things open as if it wasn't the end. i personally would probably give it a 7.5 but since theres no decimal ratings in this system heh, ill give it an 7 because the first half was capturing and interesting while the 2nd half was an assortment of short arcs that didn't really have many interesting stories or characters. Especially the Accelerator arc. It went way too fast where in the prior episodes he was a maniacal killing psycho and now he suddenly becomes a good guy without a reason or enough time to comprehend. It needed more development. Also the 2nd half when touma loses his memory kinda pissed me off because it was like he was starting off new when the audience didn't need that at all because we had already gotten to like the prior "i lost my memory" touma. For me personally at that point i lost interest in touma as a leading character. I think thats the problem because touma's state of mind was always "who's this? and whats happening? (in a more annoying way)" when the audience already knew and was pointless. The first half was story driven while the 2nd latter was like fillers. Well to finish it off, this became a mediocre series, but a good way to past time.
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Mar 22, 2009 6:27 PM

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good last ep for this season
they crammed alota things in the last episode though
i thought that
2nd seasons gonna be worth watching
 
Mar 22, 2009 6:38 PM

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That was a nice ending. Would be nice to see Hyouka again though.
I'm looking forward to the side story.

9/10
 
Mar 22, 2009 6:42 PM

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Based on the light novels, there's just not enough material for a second season yet. With that said, I'm just looking forward to more Biribiri lol.
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Mar 22, 2009 6:57 PM

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Cool anime, I liked it.
It seems all set for a 2nd season too (still waiting for Shana 3 too xD)... At least the Biribiri Spin-off has been confirmed for now.
 
Mar 22, 2009 6:58 PM

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naked mikoto and kuroko at the end was a nice touch.

fukou da being the last words of the series was very nice.

good to see the beginning of the next season will involve stiyl and uneven jeans-tan.

rounded this up to a 6 because of mikoto, last order, and accelerator. the characters are excellent but the actual events never seem to get tied up properly. overall, a mostly enjoyable watch.
 
Mar 22, 2009 7:00 PM

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yunadestined said:
Based on the light novels, there's just not enough material for a second season yet. With that said, I'm just looking forward to more Biribiri lol.


You kidding me? There's like 17 novels. They adapted six. There's almost enough for another two seasons. (Not that I've read them).

At any rate, second half was far weaker than the first half. So-So ending, to an alright show that didn't really innovate, but didn't do anything really wrong with the exception of inundating me with a ton of jargon.

6/10(from 5/10) because of Mikoto.

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Mar 22, 2009 7:41 PM

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Ok series. What annoyed me most about it however was the endless dialogue scenes that Touma would have, which would last like half an episode. Nevertheless, I liked the characters and I wouldn't mind watching a second season since the ending was left pretty open. (6/10)
 
Mar 22, 2009 7:43 PM

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damn that foggy shower censor. =P

i was a little surprised they let kazakiri disappear, the goodbye was actually quite touching.

otherwise, i thought this episode was a microcosm of the season. good comedy, nicely done action, and way too much self-righteous, nonsensical dialogue bringing down all the good parts. 24 episodes through, a probable 2nd season pending, and I still couldn't tell you what the story is actually about.

i am looking forward to the biribiri spinoff though!
 
Mar 22, 2009 8:50 PM

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After finishing the first season I'm still under the impression that Touma is God's right hand so to speak. The reason for this is because in the bible the term "God's right hand" in prophecy refers to the Messiah to whom is given the power and authority to subdue His enemies (Psalm 110:1; Psalm 118:16) (source http://www.gotquestions.org/right-hand-God.html). I mean we have seen and heard about Angels so I wouldn't be surprised at all if Touma's power really was a gift from the gods to keep magic and ESPers in line.
 
Mar 22, 2009 10:21 PM

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they have alot missing. there better be a second season especially for a season ender it was really lack luster and hinted at a second one alot.
 
Mar 22, 2009 10:34 PM

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This just makes me hate Touma more 1.) for all the girls he gets and 2.) for his haxxor arm of his D:
 
Mar 22, 2009 11:55 PM

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I am still angry that they never got around to exposing that Touma lost his memories, I was waiting for that the whole series and left disappointed.

Thank you that was the main thing that made me mad that
The main reason this show pissed me off is the factthat they never explained his arm His arm was brought up as something being more than esper at the end and thats that, Alister has a huge plot, but i guess we never mind that.
the fact they never really explored index it was like " hey we dont have to erase her memory. Opps Touma's got erased instead oh well moving on to the next story." Well bring up new characters do some character development and get rid of them for the next episode, never fully explaining them, and basically explaining it as "well Touma has the Captain save a chick complex". The fact that the 103,000 grimoires in Index's brain were barely touched upon or used also pissed me off (except being important in the beginning), and I was hoping a relationship would actually progress with Touma and Index nope, nada.
but my biggest beef was there was no real resolution.... to ANYTHING
I feel like this show was made for kids with ADHD. Well start to explain whats going on with everyone, and everything and in the middle of explaining we are going to break off to explosions. O.O OOH light sound color, and all of a sudden it dosent matter anymore, sigh.

And the only thing that seems confirmed is a rail gun spinoff...sigh If they dont do a sequel Im going to be so disappointed in this anime 2/10 if left as is.
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Mar 23, 2009 12:26 AM

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It was a great episode but not a really a great ending. It felt as if it was just another episode. It didn't really tie up anything at all. If I didn't check online I would think there would another episode next week... I don't know what you guys are talking about but I liked the new girl... Haha, there has to be a second season... I mean just look at the second half of the episode? It was just basically saying "The filler-like arcs are over the main story will begin" but noo... it was the end. Well, I relatively new to cliff hanger endings. Once again, great episode but... it didn't have the closure necessary to be considered a good ending. Didn't tie up anything at all, all it did was bring up more questions and make us ask "What's going to happen next"? There has to be a season 2, I mean come on... This would have made a good episode 18 where 19-24 would continue where 18 left off... actually thinking about it this would be a great episode 24 if 25-48 were based on it. There was enough cliffhangers to make a second season... I mean really... with it's own new plot and everything.

Season 2!
 
Mar 23, 2009 12:39 AM

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Great series, looking forward to the side stoy and hopefully season 2 down the road. I really have no complaints about this one.
 
Mar 23, 2009 12:53 AM

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I'm glad I waited till this series ended so I could watch it in one stretch since I did enjoy this series a lot but I got to agree with several posters, there's nothing as annoying as a final episode where you even can't tell if it's the last episode. And I was also hoping they would do a whole lot more with the part where he lost all his memories. Hoping at a 2nd season since this series still left so much unanswered and hopefully it has some more Touma Index moments since the second half of the season Index felt more like a supporting character then a main character.
 
Mar 23, 2009 1:19 AM

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Very fun series. Had a hiccup with that whole "angels fall" arc, but other than that it was good.

7/10 - can't wait for Rail Gun.
 
Mar 23, 2009 1:25 AM

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jaikross said:
GodsDragon said:
I am still angry that they never got around to exposing that Touma lost his memories, I was waiting for that the whole series and left disappointed.

Thank you that was the main thing that made me mad that
The main reason this show pissed me off is the factthat they never explained his arm His arm was brought up as something being more than esper at the end and thats that, Alister has a huge plot, but i guess we never mind that.
the fact they never really explored index it was like " hey we dont have to erase her memory. Opps Touma's got erased instead oh well moving on to the next story." Well bring up new characters do some character development and get rid of them for the next episode, never fully explaining them, and basically explaining it as "well Touma has the Captain save a chick complex". The fact that the 103,000 grimoires in Index's brain were barely touched upon or used also pissed me off (except being important in the beginning), and I was hoping a relationship would actually progress with Touma and Index nope, nada.
but my biggest beef was there was no real resolution.... to ANYTHING
I feel like this show was made for kids with ADHD. Well start to explain whats going on with everyone, and everything and in the middle of explaining we are going to break off to explosions. O.O OOH light sound color, and all of a sudden it dosent matter anymore, sigh.

And the only thing that seems confirmed is a rail gun spinoff...sigh If they dont do a sequel Im going to be so disappointed in this anime 2/10 if left as is.
well, there are a ton of novels left...it's not like this is the Final Episode.
 
Mar 23, 2009 2:56 AM

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The episode definitely didn't feel like an ending, or even a season ending. All I have to say is season 2, here we come. Assuming JC Staff will animate Shana 3 for Fall 2009, and then Biribiri's spin off, we'll probably have to wait until Fall 2010 for Index 2. (No I definitely don't want them to sacrifice Shana for this)

The series wasn't bad, I watched it light hearted and I actually enjoyed it quite a lot, especially the first half. The ride was fun, like a roller coster with ups and downs, and I had some great laughs. Giving it a 6/10.
 
Mar 23, 2009 5:17 AM

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The start was the start worthy of only the greatest of anime. But the rest was not so very good... this episode was no real ending, Angel Fall was one of the crapiest anime arcs ever. But the side chars pown and the story is pretty good. I like the idea of combining magic with esper powers and all.

This was a decent ep but deffinetly unworthy as an ending.
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Mar 23, 2009 5:34 AM

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i'm gonna miss them
 
Mar 23, 2009 8:53 AM

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This show would be good if it had an actual plot, still maybe they will fix things up with the second season
 
Mar 23, 2009 9:08 AM

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While the show had a lot of bad sides, it managed to become one of my favourite shows with its colorful cast of characters, setting and potential. 9/10 from me.
Judging by the novel summaries and spoilers, 2nd season is where things start to get interesting (can't wait for the war arcs)

Looking forward to To Aru Kagaku no Railgun anime as well. The manga was great and I have great expectations for this one. Hopefuly the author of Index and Railgun will cooporate with J.C. Staff so the anime will go beyond its manga counterpart. Just three arcs ceartanly won't satisfy me.
 
Mar 23, 2009 9:51 AM

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6/10.

If they're going to obviously include a second season or heavily hint at one, they could have made the first season, you know, good. Too many loose ends and so many barely explained arcs really crippled this show.


 
Mar 23, 2009 10:12 AM

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Schizophrenic and very inconsistent show that still ended up being rather decent overall. Not looking forward to the second season, but will watch it anyway.

6/10
 
Mar 23, 2009 11:31 AM

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I really enjoyed this series....I loved the characters, most arcs were interesting and both the soundtrack and the animation were awesome. I would've given this one a 8, but because some characters *cough*Biribiri*cough* I'm giving this a weak 9. :)
 
Mar 23, 2009 11:47 AM

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I started watching this show with some expectations and got my hopes high...
Turned out to be absolutely unsatisfying and fulfilled none of my expectations. As said somewhere above, the show is very inconsistant and barely decent and Im getting this feeling, that the makers stuffed way too much of the novels progress into the first season, thus ending up having an overload of content which resulted in showing said content in a rather poor manner.

A weak 6/10 for the sake of Misaka.
 
Mar 23, 2009 2:04 PM

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Great episode, nice ending. A bit sad Hyouka disappeared in the end. But the next season will surely be interesting. "Angels", "Heaven"... wow^^

Can't wait for Biri-biri's spin-off too :)
 
Mar 23, 2009 3:35 PM

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Man, this series started good, WAS good for most of the part then last few eps sucked. Especialy the last one.
 
Mar 23, 2009 6:29 PM

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Not enough Misaka. Overall the show was a disappointment, I thought it'll be epic after I was impressed by the animation quality of the first few episodes. Then it quickly dropped down to a meaningless ramble of long speeches and "wtf are you doing" moments.
Show should of been called "To Aru Speechu no Touma"
 
Mar 23, 2009 7:24 PM

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This show really could've been better in many ways. It started on a decent track with some straight objectives and we understood what was going on. Then, Index became a comic relief character and the entire show went on a mumbo jumbo rollercoaster of confusion and unnecessary plot fillers. Here they have a cast of some good characters like Misaka and a few more I can't remember the names of, but none were used at their full potentials. When there was a chance, it was wasted and then came along new characters to fill in some more strange occurrences to throw us off and then cliche monologues and information we probably don't even have to care about. So, in the end, the show didn't know what to do and how to go about solving all the cans it opened. Either we get season 2 or this is it. And, by the end of the show, I totally forgot that Kanzaki was a part of the same series. I still hand it a 7 for the animation, fights, Misaka and for the first half of the show.
 
Mar 23, 2009 7:35 PM

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I'm sorry.

Why does everyone like Misaka? What did she do that was so out of the norm for tsunderes? I don't get it.
 
Mar 23, 2009 8:42 PM

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Was a pretty good anime. I know I'll be watching season 2 whenever that comes out. I think the best part of the show was Index.
 
Mar 23, 2009 8:48 PM

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I'm sorry.

Why does everyone like Misaka? What did she do that was so out of the norm for tsunderes? I don't get it.
It's all in the name. "Biri Biri". Rolls right off the tongue.

Plus, imagine how awesome the sex would be. Electro-gasm?
 
Mar 23, 2009 10:39 PM

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The series was okay. I stopped trying to take this anime seriously like five episodes in. Sometimes it got really corny when they tried to make things serious, especially at the parts where they keep talking for an hour straight or try to be bad ass. Also I kept saying to myself while watching, wow that was dumb, who the hell cares, so predictable, calm the hell down you crazy hoe, couldn't you have done that stuff earlier, it would have saved a lot of blood, energy, and time, that was easy, wtf?, man my wang ain't hard at all from the action. A lot of things seemed forgotten all together or at least not played out well. It has some awesome potential and is great aside from the action bits. Really hope the next seasons or spin offs will be better than this as I LOVE all the characters. 7/10, Glad I finally got through this.
 
Mar 24, 2009 12:38 AM

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I like how it ends and it just doesn't feel finished, i'd rather have it that way leading into a second season, than having it climax here then start form a low point again. good stuff, sad to see if gone for a while til we get the spin off and season 2.

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I'm sorry.

Why does everyone like Misaka? What did she do that was so out of the norm for tsunderes? I don't get it.


Maybe just because she is a tsundere that controls lightning? that's pretty cool in my book.

 
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Yeh it feels incomplete, but that just means that we'll get a seconds season sooner or later. Or maybe it'll somehow continue in Rail Gun.

Anyway, really enjoyed the series. Great animation, funny episodes and awesome music. Also kinda got a Shana vibe from every episode. Biribiri. 9/10
 
Mar 24, 2009 1:59 AM

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noteDhero said:
I'm sorry.

Why does everyone like Misaka? What did she do that was so out of the norm for tsunderes? I don't get it.
i really don't know. there's just something about her. she is a goddess.
 
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noteDhero said:
I'm sorry.

Why does everyone like Misaka? What did she do that was so out of the norm for tsunderes? I don't get it.
Well she can create and control electromagnetic fields and use this to form a rail gun which is the most coolest thing ever! Plus it's good to see for a change a tsundere that isn't Kugimiya Rie and doesn't fail (*cough* melon *cough*)..
 
Mar 24, 2009 7:49 AM

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Well, nice ending. Some final farewells and It's shown that life of Index and Touma continues as normal. Many things were left open, though, so I hope for a second season.
 
Mar 24, 2009 9:09 AM

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I guess I don't understand because it's the first character able to control elsectricity that I don't really care about...I'll also fan flames and say that Felli from Regios and Taiga from Toradora are far better characters than Misaka, if only because there is no depth to her character and that she isn't funny.
 
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noteDhero said:
I guess I don't understand because it's the first character able to control elsectricity that I don't really care about...I'll also fan flames and say that Felli from Regios and Taiga from Toradora are far better characters than Misaka, if only because there is no depth to her character and that she isn't funny.

I'd agree with this but it isn't surprising. Can anyone name one character in this series that had any sort of depth to them? Even the character the series is named after is barely developed and the main character Touma is the most generic (and thus annoying) male anime hero ever that never changes one bit throughout the series, EVEN AFTER COMPLETELY LOSING HIS MEMORY (maybe he forgot he lost his memory too?).

Misaki is just another member of Touma's harem that after saving, he discarded to fall back in to the shadows with the rest. Like the rest of his harem, it seems her sole purpose in the series is to create situations for Touma to need to rescue her.
 
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I dislike the fact that Touma seems to be able to run at incredible speed some times, yet, sometimes looks like his body is in slowmotion... Specially when he is giving a speech while rushing towards the enemy.

On a side note, that blond bitch plot was hell too stupid.
Like, producers only picked up randomical and overused plot devices, and mixed up with even more over used stuff.

Its already the 10th time i saw a character like Hyouka on a series.
And its always like that.
She is a monster, but she doesn't know, the antagonist throws some brainwash bullshit at her, she goes emo, and tries to sacrifice her self for the ones who become her friends.
then the main character suddenly manages to run his way out of the underground, and miracously arrives at the fight scene to kick the bad guy's ass.

Damn it. Its so overused even power rangers have that.
 
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Needs more seasons to be any good. This one was just a mashup of unrelated or semiunrelated arcs with no true central story. At the end of the episode, there was some sort of bigger picture, but with that, the first season is over.
 
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