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You have said some of this, but honestly it's nothing confirmed in the show. The most we have to go on that Ringo is Leda's child is that tiny moment in episode 23. I don't remember the show ever talking about how Leda's child could live.

The thing is, unless you have read something or these things were stated in the other incarnations of Casshern, they aren't facts. And even if they are in different adaptations, that doesn't mean that the writing can be so lazy as to connect things with fishing line. In my mind this is a separate show for a reason.

Both can be themes if they weren't so close together in what they were trying to say. Of course, I like to think that my theme works more because it is broader and present the whole of the series.

The stuff I talked about was mostly heavily implied in the series actually. I don't expect the series to spoon-feed me with dense explanations, and I'm glad it didn't. (for leda, we have both episode 23 and before, the episode dedicated to her [can't remember the number], and several conversations all over the show.)
The wrong of eternal life is also present throughout the show, just becomes more apparent towards the ending. I mean, it's the whole basis of why the ruin exists, and that is from the get go.

wow are you kidding....
they talked about ruin in every episode
ruin is mostly when the robot starts to rust

o rly?

Come on, that's obviously not what I'm talking about.

I don't expect to be spoon fed either. However, important plot points such as those can't go without being confirmed, yet made implied with tangential conversation. Again, I wouldn't have a problem if these implications weren't so integral to the series. It shows a lack of focus on the right things in my eyes.

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Honestly, now that you mention it, it is weird that Ruin affects all life except for humans. I don't think that we saw any humans suffer from Ruin directly. They only became hunted as a point of rage by robots who couldn't handle dying. I don't really know why it would affect the plant life.

I must thank Casshern Sins for having reminded me in the last 6 months that Japanese animation can be an Art and not just entertainment.

Casshern Sins and Kaiba are without a doubt the two shows released in 2008 that proved this fact and I think we must be thankful at least for that. Then, is the script exceptional, are there no mistakes, are the characters perfectly developed from beginning to end, is the structure flawless, was everything relevent to the plot etc...? Of course not, but for me, all these questions are meaningless before this particular series, and that's precisely why it's a masterpiece.

Casshern Sins is like if we had put 12 times in a row the last two episodes of Evangelion : it's pure emotional impact and extraordinarily detailled atmosphere mixed with great psychology as well as incredible direction and animation. Still, I understand why some are disapointed, but I'm not ;) 10/10

Yeah, it's weird! Remember the scene where Luna freaks out because the flowers are being Ruined a few episodes back? Why did that suddenly change? Luna obviously didn't cover the planet in her blood, so there's got to be some better explanation.

yes, what he said.




Most of the flowers there were actually pretty healthy (which is why Luna is always wading in fields of them at that point)... but every garden needs pruning, even if it's healthy. Although the dying flowers were meant to be symbolic of ruin/death, it's not like the flowers were all dying off en masse as the robots were.

Overall I really enjoyed this series, although I had trouble relating to a lot of the discussion... I've had it rated as 9/10, but the unfulfilling ending is greatly tempting me to drop it down a point. A few main characters die (fleetingly)...."I'm death"-"I'm life".... *the end*..... I was hoping for some greater revelation. Just that you should live life to the fullest didn't really have much of an impact for me.

Humans do not ruin. We are not robots. Some people may be "tools", but we are not made of metal. Ruin is equal to aging in my opinion the robots just could not take it because they were used to eternal life. The flowers were dying because they were not being care of properly. They were living when Lyuze was planiting because Ohji was making fertilizer.

I am giving this anime a 9/10, but I may lower the scores on some other anime and give this a 10/10 because of the story, development of characters, and the fact that Casshern is a pimp. Everything was understandable and I liked the ending.

Maybe that's why I'm so hard on Casshern. I just watched Kaiba about a month ago, and with Kaiba, I have a lot of the same issues. Perhaps the exact same issues. The difference is though that Kaiba was half as long, and therefore didn't really wear out its welcome. Also, Kaiba went really far to be inventive with music, animation and art, and Casshern just looked like a throwback to me and didn't really vary itself with music.

The shame is that this show could have been a 10 with more story direction. As others have said, I enjoyed it, I will watch the next casshern saga but it will never be a rewatch.

Yes I said "the next". Casshern is a Japanese Batman. There's always another, but never really a "sequal"

Oh! I didn't know it was that popular.

It is pretty clear that Ringo has eternal life now and that stone should have explained why Ringo is special. And everyone is being saved by Luna now regardless how they looked which is going to lead this world become an immortal world.

As for the final theme of this show, shouldn't it be about "SINs" rather than "eternal life is wrong"? The only way to tell something is wrong, isn't it their action?

In ep 23 Casshern learned about having eternal life is wrong but what he learned in this episode after Lyuze died is being alive is also important because you can live together with the one you loved. So he couldn't deny the others that they want to be saved by Luna and live on. The reason Casshern attacked Luna and her robots because what they were doing was wrong, they only saved the one they want to save. They decided someone is right or wrong, or deserved to be saved or not base on their appearance alone. Which is pretty much similar to how Casshern used to view eternal life is wrong.

Well, the only thing that I don't like about this show is how they already stated something clear but say otherwise later only to make thing more confusing.

becuase life is still better than death , and eternal life WITH the realisation of death is better than not existing at all . Ringo is the sign of this being the next gen robot that is a life that COULD eternally exist but has the realisation and is capable of death .
>.> talk about shallow understanding

9/10 last episode
8/10 as an anime
10/10 personal rating

8/10

So, anyone know what the story of the live-action movie is?

"The Sun that was called the Moon." I thought it was obvious. Plus, it's originally from Latin.

Not really sure what you're trying to say. Ringo "COULD" eternally exist, but is capable of death? What is that supposed to mean? I thought Ringo was basically a regular human now.

did you all just miss the entire idea of the series? because you have to take

did you not get the point of the whole series? in the first 15 or so episodes (i forget) we see Casshern dealing with the effects of the Ruin, making it seem that death is bad no matter what but its HOW people deal with it that defines them (remember the human with the cough?)

But then Casshen and co. met the robots who had recieved Luna's eternal behave like drunkards and abusing it... this was the turning point of Casshern who had believed that the Ruin was all bad but it was the realisation of death, as he actually explicitly said at Dio's death, that made people live to the full and not have a meaningless existance.

the last episode was a bit of a dissapointment though but the series still deserves a s 10/10 i think

Great ending of great show.


I just...don't have anything else to say.


Casshern SINS was the kind of series where you do not talk about the plot that much, you think it through, understanding and analyzing the message behind it

9/10

Wow, it ended.
There is not much I can say about this.
I am pretty much speechless.
The art, the message, everything was greatly done.

A 9\10 for me.

Apparently not. *sigh*