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So... we did get an "art house" ending.

Everyone who thought that Casshern had really sworn off fighting was wrong.

Teen Ringo is a lot better than her kid self.

And, gawd help us, there is even the possibility of a sequel, if the sales justify it.

All-in-all, I found it worth my time to watch it, but I don't think that I would bother to re-watch it.

just read the blogs...looks like it diddnt end in a abortion...everything looks like it wasnt left open

cant wait for the subs to come out...hopefully they dont take long...

really i dont know where this second season rumor is comin from but they should just leave where it is now...

So...

No insight on Braiking Boss
No insight on Luna
Casshern lied when he said he wouldn't kill again.
And in fact killed for absolutely no reason.
Ringo's (probably) completely human.
We wasted more time on flowers.

Ultimately, Casshern was an exercise in style over substance. There were some really great ideas that pretty much ran out after 12 episodes. Casshern is a puppet of an inconsistent character tailored to serve an equally inconsistent story.

I don't think that this show is worth watching in its entirety.
Watch the first few episodes, and leave with a good taste in your mouth.

oh man Lyuze. got pretty emotional there. and wow, older Ringo, wished she was like that the whole time.

overall, i really enjoyed this series. The first half with all its one shot stories were great, second half was a bit weaker, but was still interesting. gets an 8 from me.

*Enough needed for the story. You don't need to know his full life. He was the Robot King that "created" Casshern and ordered him to kill Luna because she was giving death to immortal beings (his army). He thought all the shit that happened because of this was also his sin.

*There was enough. Luna gave death in her former self, now gives eternal life. She hated what she did previously, and after the ending still is a bitch. But she is a needed "evil". Ruin is not normal death, and she is the only cure. The proble is her eternal life also takes the "true" life out of robots, so to speak. See point 4 for continuation =P

*People change opinions when they realize things are wrong/ are not what they thought. If you don't like it, go watch something with more one-dimensional characters, like a fighting shonen or something. One of the few times we see this kind of development, and all there is is bitching.

*...Did you just miss the point of the entire series? Eternal life is wrong, but ruin in itself is not normal death. Casshern understood this, and so decided to become a sort of god of death. He will not kill unnecesarily, but will be a shadow for people (robots) not to forget that eternal life is not for sure, and that they can still die.

*Ringo is the first "next generation" robot. She will live and eventually die like a human. So she can "fully live" and not live in the false dream that is eternal life. More like her will supposedly come, and sooner or later everyone left will be like her.

Oh, 8/10 for the whole series.

It was a solid series full of emotion. I also give it a 8/10. Ringo turned into a hottie which is a plus and Im still wondering if she was Leda's child. I'm also wondering if Dio and Leda died since they never confirmed it.

I agree with noteDhero - this should have been a 13 episode series. The main story was completely worthless.

What did he want to do in the first place? Wasn't he trying to conquer the world? What made him stop? I thought the reason he wanted Luna dead was because "the world doesn't need two suns".

What do you mean she "gave death"? What does that even mean? She went around killing people? Isn't she supposed to be the source of life? Makes no sense at all.

Then why the fuck is Luna still giving people eternal life?

*He built a robot empire to fight humans. (not all robots were in his side, many were in the human's)
He basically does and conquers the world. Then Luna is summoned by humans (I'm guessing created) to save them, and becomes a menace for Braiking boss's empire. She becames almost an empress/goddess. Thus he decides to kill her and sends his best assassins, Casshern and company. This was pretty explained.
What made him stop? Basically, something like the end of the world, that in casshern sins is called ruin.

*Let's get this straight: Luna helped humans combat Braiking Boss's empire. What does this mean? She helped kill people/robots. Now how? I have no idea. She probably did something to opposing robots that granted death. Would have loved to know in a more detailed way, but ultimately does not affect the story at all. We know why the ruin started, why she was "killed", why she changed her personality/way of being, why she basically existed, and her ultimate relationship with casshern.

*Wtf? Are you serious? Did you just not watch the series at all? Luna was scared of death and hated it. She wanted to erase it from the face of earth. It's repeated to death (no pun intended) in the series.

@ EmmanuelVR
thanks for that cleared all my confusions with the ending and series.

Nooo Lyuze,no ; (

Oh man I didn't recognized her death in that scene

I loved this show,the best sci fi anime I've ever watched
The first part was better than the second,thats true

was the ending satisfactory to me?
Mhh I don't really know

on the pro side
- Friender didn't die

on the con side
- Oji died
- Lyuze died ; (

What was that stone

i give this serie a 8/10 :). I really enjoyed the serie and i totally agree with EmmanuelVR. There were some holes but every anime has that.

@ Naikou.
What do you mean she "gave death"? What does that even mean? She went around killing people? Isn't she supposed to be the source of life? Makes no sense at all.

^ She was the source of life. Because with life comes death. When she was "killed" she changed her way of thinking and began to hate death.

One last thing i want to say ;_; lyuze

I agree with this part of what you said, I still somewhat enjoyed the series but the second half was a bit allovertheplace. 7/10 from me.

excellent question..

Even though completely unrelated but go watch ghost in the shell

Comrade reporting in:
Some food for thought, in one slavic language "Luna" means "Moon"...
So i liek such final. 9/10, highly rewatchable.

Just wanna add that the music for this series is awesome too! Really enjoyed the ride.

Solid 8/10 for one of few anime which give more to talk about than pairings and action scenes. Overall, C:S is very similar to Ergo Proxy, a huge potential which could be better developed. But still, very memorable sountrack and art.

Loved the music and the feel of the show but the story itself was kind of bleh. But I actually did enjoy it quite a bit so it gets a 6/10 from me

Braiking Boss did not conquer the world. Everyone worshipped Luna before she "died" and worhshipped her afterward. No one gave Braiking Boss a second thought. Casshern was the one who swayed people's emotions in an equal way to Luna. And then Dio and Leda came along. As far as commanding people's hearts go, it was
1.Luna
2.Casshern
3.Dio & Leda (Leda was the real mastermind after all)
4.Braiking Boss

But like Braiking Boss said, she is scared of Death, yet is the one ultimately responsible for it (she granted death in the beginning, caused ruin, and now kills anyone on their last legs).

The problem is that everything they ever presented for the main story was later contradicted or made vague by a new piece of information later. Sure every show has plot holes, but this show had plot holes concerning main characters and to a lesser extent their motivations.

Now, if the theme of the show is that "Eternal life is wrong, but ruin itself is not normal death" (which is impossible because themes are supposed to be a bit broader than that); then as naikou said, "why allow Luna to live?" You can't present a theme and then not follow through with it.

This is what begot most of my confusion in the latter episodes. They presented Luna as the figure of hope and answers, it then turned out not to be the case, and then everything after that was a downard spiral into trying to make everything fit together. I could have done without Casshern confronting Leda and instead had more words with Teen Ringo at the end. That was a better way of trying to say anything.

Wasn't it supposed to be the whole deal behind immortality? That stone is supposed to be full of nanomachines. The thing is ohji said he would investigate it, so normally most would think that it would be something important for the development of the series, and in the end didn't and was more of a backstory/the reason for them to being immortal.



In spanish Luna means moon.