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| A lot of these episodes in this anime when it all comes down to it were wasted, to many wasted scenes as well. Didn't have to be 24 episodes just dragged on and on and we somehow still got a ending that felt rushed. 6/10. |
| so... after rewatching episode 13, Braiking Boss is explaining what happened before the ruin, the creation of Casshern, whatnot. Meanwhile Ringo is off cutting her finger, bleeding in the water... and they make it a point to show her gazing into the pool at her reflection while Braiking Boss says: "But there is something robots could never do, create descendants." I've said multiple times that Ringo is very likely to be Leda's child. I think this only reinforces the idea. When she's waiting for Casshern to return... if she is the product of Dio and Leda, maybe she'll get to repopulate the world with Casshern. That's kinda weird, but in other science fiction where time becomes sketchy and people live forever, weirder coupling happens. |
| There is a deepness in the sky. So high, so low, so many things to know. |
| I fucking bawled my eyes out when Lyuze died, I had a strong feeling earlier in the show she was gonna go, but still man...fuck 9.5/10 anime, my god this is a hidden gem Fuck MAL and it's shitty ratings, this deserves to be a 8.70+ |
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DoctorWasabi said: I fucking bawled my eyes out when Lyuze died, I had a strong feeling earlier in the show she was gonna go, but still man...fuck 9.5/10 anime, my god this is a hidden gem Fuck MAL and it's shitty ratings, this deserves to be a 8.70+ Couldn't agree with you more. It's a masterpiece in my book. It may not be perfect for some people, but I think they intended to convey ideas and feelings and really produced a remarkable piece of art. |
| There is a deepness in the sky. So high, so low, so many things to know. |
| I can't believe I got tricked into watching this. The only enjoyment I got out of this show was seeing Lyuze get blacked in her dreams, the rest of it was torture. |
| to me, a truly wonderful show and masterpiece from the inside-out. I can get why people may get confused by the shift in tone and roles from the original version (which I never really watched, tbh) and/or the heavy themes and peculiar pacing of the story narrative, but to me, if one pays more attention to why these characters are the way they are, and why their words can resonate with Casshern and us as viewers, then one can see the true beauty. The animation quality is among the best I've seen overall, to where I can actually find it fairly comparable to today's animation styles. Not an easy recommendation, but honestly a fine piece of artwork in the endless ocean of anime that has run with too much generic and/or one-dimensional shows nowadays. |
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| can confidently say that that this wasnt that good. better than nothing but worse than everything else. casshen was the symbol of christ bearing the crescent letter c. surprised how nobody noticed such a major detail until the final episode. goes to show how little viewers pay attention. |
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| Overall, the anime had some good ideas, but the execution wasn't quite there. |
| Meh, I actually like philosophical type of shows, but I guess they are only good when Mr. Konaka directs them. Good final episode, boring Anime. The episodic nature of the first half was unnecessary, some of the episodes with Lyuze were unnecessary and I feel like the show dragged on for way too long. |
EmmanuelVR said: noteDhero said: So... No insight on Braiking Boss No insight on Luna Casshern lied when he said he wouldn't kill again. And in fact killed for absolutely no reason. Ringo's (probably) completely human. We wasted more time on flowers. *Enough needed for the story. You don't need to know his full life. He was the Robot King that "created" Casshern and ordered him to kill Luna because she was giving death to immortal beings (his army). He thought all the shit that happened because of this was also his sin. *There was enough. Luna gave death in her former self, now gives eternal life. She hated what she did previously, and after the ending still is a bitch. But she is a needed "evil". Ruin is not normal death, and she is the only cure. The proble is her eternal life also takes the "true" life out of robots, so to speak. See point 4 for continuation =P *People change opinions when they realize things are wrong/ are not what they thought. If you don't like it, go watch something with more one-dimensional characters, like a fighting shonen or something. One of the few times we see this kind of development, and all there is is bitching. *...Did you just miss the point of the entire series? Eternal life is wrong, but ruin in itself is not normal death. Casshern understood this, and so decided to become a sort of god of death. He will not kill unnecesarily, but will be a shadow for people (robots) not to forget that eternal life is not for sure, and that they can still die. *Ringo is the first "next generation" robot. She will live and eventually die like a human. So she can "fully live" and not live in the false dream that is eternal life. More like her will supposedly come, and sooner or later everyone left will be like her. Oh, 8/10 for the whole series. Good points. I liked the show and I was crossing my fingers in hope they wouldn't botch the finale - and they didn't. The final few episodes were really good and the conclusion was satisfying which is hard to achieve considering the topic. |
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kalinime said: So, um, whatever happened to that multi-colored rock/mineral/crystal/whatever of Luna bits that those kids gave to Ringo which Ohji took to research? Was its only purpose so that Ohji could figure out that she used to give death? Couldn't the kids have literally just told him that? Why keep it such a well guarded secret? "Death evil, so keep it away from me and kill all the dying that I could otherwise save!" I can't feel sad about Lyuze's and Ohji's deaths as they were the ones who rejected eternal life. Last episode Casshern: "I will never fight or kill again!" This episode Casshern: "I have slaughtered my way through your protectors so that I can tell you that I won't kill you unless you forget death, whatever the fuck that means." Sucks to be humans in this world, since all the metal will be rusted except for whatever's making up salvationed robots. "I will live... until I can see him again." -> "I'll never see you again" ED starts, lol. Damn did this show ever take a nosedive in the end. Not even counting the godawful episode 18, the "good guys'" motivations and actions just made no sense. I'll still give it a 7/10, but only on the strength of the first 2/3. Totally agree, show went to crap near the end. |
| Braiking Boss ended up falling to death as well, I feel like somehow he was pulling the strings the entire time. That might just be how he acts tho, rather than reality. Also, adult Ringo made me happy, at least we got one of them to survive happily, also kind of returning to society as WE know it, with life being on a cycle of death. |
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| I had completely forgotten about that Luna stone some of you guys brought up) because it was just never mentioned after the Cradle ep. I assumed it was some kind of guidance or needed to stop the Ruin. "Luna's cells"? 7/10. I think I'm being safe but I enjoyed it. That's a good number and it's rare for me to go higher. it's visually well done, a great cast, great music (and I mean GREAT MUSIC that fit the damper mood). The "guest bots" (Bot a week?) kinda felt like family and secretly inspired Casshern. Everyone showed that life has purpose whether its fighting (Sophita, Dio), drinking and crapping ( human Acos), singing, building (Rizbell), revenge or love, etc. Or you can just wait until you die. Casshern was a bit too emo...for the majority of the show though. I'm so glad the pressure of Lyuze and Ohji came first before the last battle/meet. WHY COULDN'T THEY BE MARRIED ROBO-GOD WHYYY?!?!?! One and two cour stories can do this sometime. Leave us with an ending open to imagination. Within a ruined land, kind of like ours, with good and bad apples, we can't be scared of natural things like death. Ringo was...well uh. We have bots that can have kids and somehow, miracles happen. I wonder why there were bot-kids (XD) No one said its impossible. The purpose of poor Casshern. He kept trying to die but can't, so he'a now back to being a "weapon" for the "natural cycle"? Braiking...you're cool but what were you doing? I thought he was protecting Luna to protect the healing or am I dumb or forgotten something? |
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| I wanted to like this and I was pretty interested at first, but it ended up pretty disappointing. The whole idea of 'immortality bad because death gives life meaning' is incredibly stupid (see the Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant). The fights had no stakes because it was established early on that Casshern is unkillable. A lot of plot elements were completely forgotten (Luna's nanocells, Dio aiming to be the new Braiking Boss, Casshern promising never to fight again then going on a killing rampage the next episode, never confirming who Ringo is/if she's Leda's daughter, etc.). The Ruin, which I assumed was a metaphor for nihilism to begin with, ended up being an inconsistent plot device that only affected the main characters when the plot demanded it. That said, I very much enjoyed the OST, which I felt was suitably atmospheric and well-used (except for 'A Path' - that damn song was played far too often, and it wasn't even that good to begin with), and some of the animation was alright. I wish Braiking Boss had more screentime, too. |
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| Totally loved this series 8/10. |
| Slightly messy is what I think about this show. It has a lot of things going for it but honestly I could not care less for most of it. |
| So, the end didn't "resolve" anything material but played it safe by fully embracing the image around Death built early on. Decent enough, given the quantity of scenario tracks they've given up on. 4/5 A fine final episode. (I was expecting the page to be full of the questions it is indeed full of but I'm still amazed by anime consumers. You really have to feed them answers about anything directly.) =========== An immortal (empty-headed) being wandering in a decaying world and watching dying people accept or be revolted by Death, finding or not a meaning in death.* A series that wanders in search of a story, throwing potential keys and intrigues along the way only to give up on them immediately or later, and derails itself within its second half by finding one. *Obviously, this is a teenager series that doesn't go very far exploring anything, and the "lesson" can be foreseen from the beginning: Living and being alive are different. Death brings meaning to life, people "burn" brighter and accomplish things. Blablabla... Nice designs in rather dry landscapes, mostly fitting music albeit limited (hello, the Gunnm OAVs music track, I heard you), a great Tôru Furuya doing most of the speaking, and typical Yamauchi distortion and "flying dance" scenes that go well with the hero's suffering but don't get much to illustrate (this is no action show). The already simple drawings take a toll toward the last quarter. Score: 6,5/10 Enjoyment: 4/5 |
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| That was pretty emotional at the end, I don't know if I'd ever actually rewatch the entire series though. I gave it a 4/5 |
| What a disappointment this is. Don't think i've ever watched an anime with such atrocious pacing, each episode had almost no progression in plot whatsoever. 24 episodes that could've been cropped into less than 9. it's a shame because i find the concept of the show (creating something out of nothing) absolutely intriguing. at first i thought this was gonna be some sort of a masterpiece, the more it went on, the more i've realized that it isn't. I'm not regretting watching this due to the high artistic value. that alone isn't enough to carry it on its own without the proper writing of the plot and characters to back it up, though. 7/10 |
| I didnt think I'd enjoy this..but I actually really did! The whole cast grew on me so much even though I was so sick of them saying Casshern's name and "The Moon that was the Sun" over and over again. That whole flower scene and Ouji...gosh I cried. I really liked him and how much he cared for baby Ringo. I'm so glad Ringo was in this anime and gave the entire show so much joy when like 90% of this was soooo dark and depressing. |
| desu desu binches |
| Did not care at all for this series and it was a slog for me to finish. I got the major plot points: life/death, creation/destruction, living for the moment, etc. but everything fell flat. Like others say, it would've been better if it had been 13 episodes. There were some good ones in the beginning, though. And it's not because a lack of tastes, I watched Kaiba last year and it was one of the best shows I had ever seen. It's not completely terrible and I can see the appeal so 7/10 |
| "You can't decide the future, but I'm going to re-educate you in the past!" - Erna Kurtz |
| My guess was that Ringo was the daughter of Leda and a human as an experiment to create truly living robot hybrids that are able to age and procreate like humans. The body probably still relied on the nanomachines to survive which is why she was affected by the ruin. The stone which contained nanomachines was able fix the nanites in Ringo's body which is why afterwards it seemed like she'd forgotten about the ruin. |
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| 2000s anime were on a different level of greatness, amazing show 8/10 |
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| Decent show, definitely longer than it should had been, 14-18 episodes were enough to fit the plot, I hated Ringo though. There were some minor flags but overall everything was rightfully explained and the characters were good enough to follow up, 5.75/10. |
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