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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 17 | 34.69% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 7 | 14.29% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 4 | 8.16% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 14 | 28.57% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 7 | 14.29% |
#21
06-11-09, 12:50 PM
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Ending was meh. |
#22
06-21-09, 5:28 AM
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The ending was kinda annoying but I still would'nt call it stupid. I mean not every manga can end with butterflies floating about ;P and did anyone else spot Rei(wheel chair girl) giving an evil smile in chapter 2 after she faked her death? it's when Mitsuki walks in i think. DOUBT = AWSOMENESS!!! ![]() |
#23
07-02-09, 6:35 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 7 |
LOL they should've just ended it on mizuki confessing and they walked out the door then pull another suspense stunt somewhere. i really liked the manga it is just that they used useless ending and make it fall into pieces and look like a pile of shit. lol that ending was annoying. i hope they just deleted it. but i really liked the manga until before they walk out the door then rei just comes up without explaining how she became alive. lol i thought she was a zombie or a ghost or another deus ex machina type of explanation. lol |
#24
07-06-09, 4:00 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 560 |
Eh, whatever. I smiled when Rei got Hajime. Not because I particularly liked her or hated him but because she got him good. Dumbass Yuu. Should have jumped out the window. |
#25
09-01-09, 4:47 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1940 |
I figured out by chapter 8 that Mitsuki was the one doing the killings. That was obvious. And even though they waited until chapter 14 to reveal it, that was alright. But Rei being the mastermind with hypnosis? Sorry, you've just created about a billion logical inconsistencies and loose ends. What about Rei's body at the beginning? How the hell can that be easily duplicated? How does she get Hajime to go with the one investigator she has under control? I mean, really? When he's in a wheelchair no less? How is it that Mitsuki, who is under restraints and on death's door, suddenly break through her bonds AND gets a weapon AND evades hospital security AND knows where Yuu's room is? And how is she a perfect wolf, exactly? She's known in all of Japan as a killer. How will she even escape the hospital? You think that the investigator who kills Hajime won't be found out, too? It was just a completely unnecessary swerve at the very end that the manga didn't need. |
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09-01-09, 1:35 PM
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Offline Joined: May 2009 Posts: 301 |
Yea, gotta say the ending wasn't thought out all that well imo, still though, the series was an enjoyable read. |
#27
09-01-09, 3:30 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 2 |
I hated the ending but the rest was great, i woul probably give it a 9 with a decent ending but the whole hipnotism thing and Rei being alive(hated it on Saw hated it here) made me give it a 7 :P |
#28
09-01-09, 10:33 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 17 |
Tsunami said: I just marathoned it and this is my thought proccess: It's Rei! {Rei is crucified} Can't be Rei! It's Eiji! {Possibility remains} {Eiji dies} It's Haruka! ... {Haruka was kinda left out} It's Mizuki! {Mizuki becomes very ill, it can't be her} It's Hajime! {Everyone dies except for Mizuki, Yuu & Hajime} Mizuki is insane.. ... It's Rei. WHAT THE FUCK. well yes, that's about it. Although I enjoyed it, it had loads of holes. - Mizuki healing. - Rei .. alive? - Mizuki hanged and stabbed.. Haha, my thought process was pretty close to yours. But throughout it all, I had a nagging feeling that Rei wasn't dead. It just seemed a bit unnatural to me that she had died so early and was the only one who was crucified, while everyone was hung after they were killed. Edit: YoungVagabond said: I figured out by chapter 8 that Mitsuki was the one doing the killings. That was obvious. And even though they waited until chapter 14 to reveal it, that was alright. But Rei being the mastermind with hypnosis? Sorry, you've just created about a billion logical inconsistencies and loose ends. What about Rei's body at the beginning? How the hell can that be easily duplicated? How does she get Hajime to go with the one investigator she has under control? I mean, really? When he's in a wheelchair no less? How is it that Mitsuki, who is under restraints and on death's door, suddenly break through her bonds AND gets a weapon AND evades hospital security AND knows where Yuu's room is? And how is she a perfect wolf, exactly? She's known in all of Japan as a killer. How will she even escape the hospital? You think that the investigator who kills Hajime won't be found out, too? It was just a completely unnecessary swerve at the very end that the manga didn't need. I was wondering about Rei's, "dead body" too. And about Mitsuki. IIRC, Hajime advised Yuu to visit Mitsuki. So he was already in her room, then he found the cell phone, then he said the magic words, and then she came back from the dead(well... she wasn't exactly dead, but she was pretty damn close). But I agree, it was a completely unnecessary swerve of an ending. Modified by Aerolite, 09-01-09, 10:43 PM |
#29
09-02-09, 1:09 AM
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Aerolite said: And about Mitsuki. IIRC, Hajime advised Yuu to visit Mitsuki. Ah, good catch. I missed that. However, that only clears up one of the questions, and adds so many more. How did Rei get the cellphone there? That omniscient, deus ex machina investigator, again? How did she time things so perfectly with her call? Also, every hospital I've ever been in has tons of orderlies milling around the Critical Care unit. No way would they be alone. Would Mistuki even HEAR those words considering she's in a coma, and there's a glass window separating the two? Again, where was the editor on all this? Aerolite said: So he was already in her room, then he found the cell phone, then he said the magic words, and then she came back from the dead(well... she wasn't exactly dead, but she was pretty damn close). Rei isn't a hypnotist...she's actually...A NECROMANCER! |
#30
09-09-09, 10:06 PM
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Lame ending. The last 1/4th of this manga was as lame as American horror movies. |
#32
09-13-09, 12:46 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2009 Posts: 33 |
I'm actually a bit surprised at the people who were upset at the logical inconsistencies... it's a horror story, therefore logic does not really apply. I generally steer clear of horror/suspense for that reason, because it's main intent is to creep you out, make you jump, and keep you guessing - so of course they're going to have some logic issues on the 20th plot twist. You put up with the illogical story so that you can savor the "I didn't see that coming!" feeling. Of course, horror stories are also pretty much all the same...so after the first few it's just an illogical story that doesn't surprise you at all. Meh. Anyways, about the actual story - wow, that was a crazy ride. The setting was awesome for making the whole thing creepy as hell, and while I guessed the major plot shifts, it still had enough to surprise me. Oh, and the sudden reversal (how many is that now?) at the very end was pretty dang good, because I honestly didn't see that coming. But more importantly: I read that entire series in Japanese and managed to keep up with the story the whole way. I am quite proud of myself. |
#33
09-26-09, 5:19 AM
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Filicireg said: I'm actually a bit surprised at the people who were upset at the logical inconsistencies... it's a horror story, therefore logic does not really apply. Seriously? Why? Logic apply to everything. Of course, making up supernatural elements is necessary, but you can't just completely drain logic out. Good horror story has unnatural, creepy things, but also some consistency and no plot holes. I liked the ending. Not plot holes, of course, but the fact that it wasn't good ending. God, I hated Yuu with passion :> Btw, I actually guessed the ending. The only character who had some special ability. And she was innocent - looking, with tragic backstory and using a wheelchair. She was bound to be the killer :> But I was still hoping that everything would be somehow more complex and that I was wrong. Nah... And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, cause it's bugger all down here on Earth. |
#34
10-09-09, 8:09 AM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 130 |
it was a good ending i geuss.. but i didnt like it >_> |
#35
10-13-09, 5:39 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 44 |
The ending sucked. It's too unrealistic for rei to be the ultimate mastermind. sheesh, yuu should have at least found a way to defeat her or something.... And why the hell was the knife and apple there? Why the sht is it in a COMATOSED person's room? So she could eat it when she wakes up? I don't think her visitors just felt like an apple right before they decided to visit her and brought a knife to cut and eat it in her room... -_- |
#36
11-07-09, 8:52 PM
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Well, I liked that the ending took place outside of that stupid mental hospital, and that Hajime and Yuu made it out ok- oh wait that didn't happen. 6/10. Overall, pretty disappointed. |
#37
11-10-09, 2:47 AM
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Aerolite said: Tsunami said: I just marathoned it and this is my thought proccess: It's Rei! {Rei is crucified} Can't be Rei! It's Eiji! {Possibility remains} {Eiji dies} It's Haruka! ... {Haruka was kinda left out} It's Mizuki! {Mizuki becomes very ill, it can't be her} It's Hajime! {Everyone dies except for Mizuki, Yuu & Hajime} Mizuki is insane.. ... It's Rei. WHAT THE FUCK. well yes, that's about it. Although I enjoyed it, it had loads of holes. - Mizuki healing. - Rei .. alive? - Mizuki hanged and stabbed.. Haha, my thought process was pretty close to yours. But throughout it all, I had a nagging feeling that Rei wasn't dead. It just seemed a bit unnatural to me that she had died so early and was the only one who was crucified, while everyone was hung after they were killed. Wahahaha...Same thought process...except for the Rei part....but it wasn't a suprise too me...cause....It was so very SAW like...the main villain was already there on the start... YoungVagabond said: And how is she a perfect wolf, exactly? She's known in all of Japan as a killer. dame da...zen zen dame da... that's not what she meant....she is the perfect wolf cause.. Innocent mode ---> Keyword:for the ones i love ----> Wolf killing mode She's so emotionally destroyed that Rei has perfect control over her.... YoungVagabond said: Also, every hospital I've ever been in has tons of orderlies milling around the Critical Care unit. No way would they be alone. Would Mistuki even HEAR those words considering she's in a coma, and there's a glass window separating the two? What glass?? there is no glass...it's a normal hopsital room... Well...the mind can pick up waves...hypnotic waves...like how Cell phones could destroy your head with its frequency YoungVagabond said: How does she get Hajime to go with the one investigator she has under control? I mean, really? When he's in a wheelchair no less? Well..Hajime thought that HE should double check it so the crime scene couldn't be cheated no matter what.....and Well...bout the controlled investigator...Hypnotism again Well...all of your other questions can be answered by Rei's Ultra Super Cell phone Hypnotism... Logic...Rei's Ultra Super Mega Giga Terra Hypnotism destroyed your logic.... Well...Good manga..somewhat has an ending like SAW and that is not really that good 8/10 (I only give animes/mangas a grade of 6-10) |