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Jan 15, 2014 3:48 PM
#21
Krunchy said: FullMetalRain said: You would like to change higly philosophical anime into some crazy mindless action?Yea I get what you guys are saying, but did any of you else think before you started watching this that there maybe was going to be some crazy girlfriend mirai nikki stuff with vampires that didn't suck? I'm still bummed even though I did like the story...it was the complete opposite of what I had expected. Hell no. Haha why not, Shiki turns Mirai Nikki...think about it...think about it. |
Jan 15, 2014 3:51 PM
#22
Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. |
Jan 15, 2014 3:53 PM
#23
Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. No doubt it was still a good anime, but it wasn't what I expected and it also didn't do things right with the characters<---my opinion. |
Jan 15, 2014 3:53 PM
#24
FullMetalRain said: I think it would not be that good even if it would better version of Mirai Niki.Krunchy said: FullMetalRain said: You would like to change higly philosophical anime into some crazy mindless action?Yea I get what you guys are saying, but did any of you else think before you started watching this that there maybe was going to be some crazy girlfriend mirai nikki stuff with vampires that didn't suck? I'm still bummed even though I did like the story...it was the complete opposite of what I had expected. Hell no. Haha why not, Shiki turns Mirai Nikki...think about it...think about it. |
Jan 15, 2014 3:53 PM
#25
Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. |
Jan 15, 2014 3:53 PM
#26
Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Ouch ok guys we all have opinions so let's not fight k I want to hear why some people think it's crap and some who think its bloody good |
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Jan 15, 2014 3:55 PM
#27
Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! |
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Jan 15, 2014 3:57 PM
#28
Animefreak17a said: Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! Looked like the art I'd expect from like a battle shounen or something. It really threw me off as well |
Jan 15, 2014 3:57 PM
#29
Animefreak17a said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Ouch ok guys we all have opinions so let's not fight k I want to hear why some people think it's crap and some who think its bloody good I'm on both sides of it...There were times where I loved it and it had me on the edge of my seat ready to watch the next episode, but towards the end, while I was waiting for what I thought to be main protagonists to do something, everyone kept dying and *BOOM* Fin |
Jan 15, 2014 3:57 PM
#30
Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! |
Jan 15, 2014 3:58 PM
#31
Krunchy said: Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! original=/=good It just didn't fit a horror anime well. The art was too in-your-face and pointy. More realistic art could have made some scenes much more dramatic and intense |
Jan 15, 2014 4:01 PM
#32
The more I discuss Shiki...the more I begin to think of how awful it was. |
Jan 15, 2014 4:08 PM
#33
Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! original=/=good It just didn't fit a horror anime well. The art was too in-your-face and pointy. More realistic art could have made some scenes much more dramatic and intense Yep I agree |
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Jan 15, 2014 4:10 PM
#34
Cupquake said: Realistic Art in anime??Krunchy said: Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! original=/=good It just didn't fit a horror anime well. The art was too in-your-face and pointy. More realistic art could have made some scenes much more dramatic and intense |
Jan 15, 2014 4:12 PM
#35
FullMetalRain said: The more I discuss Shiki...the more I begin to think of how awful it was. But you have to admit it does bring up a good discussion on what was right and wrong and morality, it's like death note in many ways with its rights and wrongs morality and stuff like that get where I'm coming from |
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Jan 15, 2014 4:12 PM
#36
Krunchy said: Cupquake said: Realistic Art in anime??Krunchy said: Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! original=/=good It just didn't fit a horror anime well. The art was too in-your-face and pointy. More realistic art could have made some scenes much more dramatic and intense I think he means something like death notes art am I right |
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Jan 15, 2014 4:15 PM
#37
[spoiler Krunchy said: Realistic Art in anime??Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! original=/=good It just didn't fit a horror anime well. The art was too in-your-face and pointy. More realistic art could have made some scenes much more dramatic and intense it's relative. I hope you can agree that Baccano!'s art is more realistic than Lucky Stars. Shiki could have made it's art more realistic by making the faces less pointy and normalizing the hair colors. |
Jan 15, 2014 4:16 PM
#38
Animefreak17a said: I think he means something like death notes art am I right Yes Death Note's art style would have been better |
Jan 15, 2014 4:18 PM
#39
As for me it's too casual, orginal art is more satisfacting than watching same style all the time. |
Jan 15, 2014 4:22 PM
#40
Animefreak17a said: FullMetalRain said: The more I discuss Shiki...the more I begin to think of how awful it was. But you have to admit it does bring up a good discussion on what was right and wrong and morality, it's like death note in many ways with its rights and wrongs morality and stuff like that get where I'm coming from Yea you're right...it's just I had such high hopes for the anime and there were times where I felt like a little kid on Christmas day, overjoyed with excitement....im just depressed now :( |
Jan 15, 2014 4:30 PM
#41
I thought people loved this show, so the reaction in this thread is surprising. |
Jan 15, 2014 4:32 PM
#42
ovoon7 said: I thought people loved this show, so the reaction in this thread is surprising. I thought so too despite its fans and art |
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Jan 15, 2014 4:35 PM
#43
Animefreak17a said: ovoon7 said: I thought people loved this show, so the reaction in this thread is surprising. I thought so too despite its fans and art Every anime has it's haters. And Shiki isn't even rated that high on mal, so it's not that surprising that there are a lot of people who don't like it on mal |
Jan 15, 2014 4:46 PM
#44
Cupquake said: Animefreak17a said: ovoon7 said: I thought people loved this show, so the reaction in this thread is surprising. I thought so too despite its fans and art Every anime has it's haters. And Shiki isn't even rated that high on mal, so it's not that surprising that there are a lot of people who don't like it on mal No no I mean it's sides of seeing things in the anime you have fans on the humans side an on the shikis side and on side is always pissed off at the other sides opinion on the matters |
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Jan 15, 2014 4:47 PM
#45
Animefreak17a said: No no I mean it's sides of seeing things in the anime you have fans on the humans side an on the shikis side and on side is always pissed off at the other sides opinion on the matters No offense, but I don't really understand what you were trying to say here. |
Jan 15, 2014 4:52 PM
#46
Animefreak17a said: Ouch ok guys we all have opinions so let's not fight k I want to hear why some people think it's crap and some who think its bloody good I might be misremembering things a bit but this is why I didn't like it: The show had two distinct halves undeveloped characters disappearing and vampires getting slaughtered, basically nothing else happened. The only character that seemed to stick around was the doctor. Given how little the monk and vampires were actually on the screen it made the story too lopsided and made the ending choice the monk made seem a bit goofy (considering he ran off trying to save the lolita chick we saw for all of 5 minutes throughout the show). The vampire slaughter episodes were excessive to say the least and I'm not talking about violence or gore just the amount of episodes where only that happened in a row. |
There's no need for all this tension. |
Jan 15, 2014 4:55 PM
#47
Cupquake said: Animefreak17a said: No no I mean it's sides of seeing things in the anime you have fans on the humans side an on the shikis side and on side is always pissed off at the other sides opinion on the matters No offense, but I don't really understand what you were trying to say here. I'm explain in death note there's two sides isn't there 1 is that evil people should die which some fans agree on what light was trying to do The second 2 is that killing is wrong no matter what and no one deserves to die Your seen the posts for that. In shiki you have humans killing shiki and shiki drinking blood from humans in order to live. You ether side with the humans and see the shiki as evil and the monk is a idiot for joining them Or Your on the shikis side seeing them as the victims of the series and see how humans are more monster It depends on why you side with ether one or not. Some people don't choose a side and say everyone in the series is a victim and stuff like that you know |
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Jan 15, 2014 4:57 PM
#48
Animefreak17a said: Cupquake said: Animefreak17a said: No no I mean it's sides of seeing things in the anime you have fans on the humans side an on the shikis side and on side is always pissed off at the other sides opinion on the matters No offense, but I don't really understand what you were trying to say here. I'm explain in death note there's two sides isn't there 1 is that evil people should die which some fans agree on what light was trying to do The second 2 is that killing is wrong no matter what and no one deserves to die Your seen the posts for that. In shiki you have humans killing shiki and shiki drinking blood from humans in order to live. You ether side with the humans and see the shiki as evil and the monk is a idiot for joining them Or Your on the shikis side seeing them as the victims of the series and see how humans are more monster It depends on why you side with ether one or not. Some people don't choose a side and say everyone in the series is a victim and stuff like that you know yes it's very up for debate, I agree. Kinda like in Shinsekai Yori, where both sides were honestly justified |
Jan 15, 2014 4:58 PM
#49
] Cupquake said: it's relative. I hope you can agree that Baccano!'s art is more realistic than Lucky Stars. Shiki could have made it's art more realistic by making the faces less pointy and normalizing the hair colors. So why in Higurashi it isnt the problem? You are hypocrite. |
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Jan 15, 2014 5:00 PM
#50
Majikkusesu said: Animefreak17a said: Ouch ok guys we all have opinions so let's not fight k I want to hear why some people think it's crap and some who think its bloody good I might be misremembering things a bit but this is why I didn't like it: The show had two distinct halves undeveloped characters disappearing and vampires getting slaughtered, basically nothing else happened. The only character that seemed to stick around was the doctor. Given how little the monk and vampires were actually on the screen it made the story too lopsided and made the ending choice the monk made seem a bit goofy (considering he ran off trying to save the lolita chick we saw for all of 5 minutes throughout the show). The vampire slaughter episodes were excessive to say the least and I'm not talking about violence or gore just the amount of episodes where only that happened in a row. Would you say if it was a little longer for to give charecters more development and get to know them all more say.... another 15 or more episodes to give more development, I would say yes if that was the case then yes if it went on a lil longer and didn't have a rushed ending then maybe it might of been a bit better |
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Jan 15, 2014 5:01 PM
#51
Krunchy said: Cupquake said: [spoiler Krunchy said: Realistic Art in anime??Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Animefreak17a said: I think it was original.Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Majikkusesu said: Cause actualy it was good it's your fault if you arent able to count floor tiles.If you liked Shiki you might also like counting floor tiles. You could literally watch 4 episodes of the series and not miss out on any of the story. It boggles my mind that so many people actually thought it was good. Don't just say it was good, prove to me that it was. I am a horror fan, not just in anime, but in general. Shiki was a horrible horror anime imo because of the slow pacing and weird art. Yeah the art was distracting that was one of its down falls especially there hair I'm like ..........why?! original=/=good It just didn't fit a horror anime well. The art was too in-your-face and pointy. More realistic art could have made some scenes much more dramatic and intense it's relative. I hope you can agree that Baccano!'s art is more realistic than Lucky Stars. Shiki could have made it's art more realistic by making the faces less pointy and normalizing the hair colors. So why in Higurashi it isnt the problem? You are hypocrite. It was a problem in Higurashi. I honestly didn't like the moe art style in the serious scenes, but for the slice of life ones the art style was awesome. Just because I love Higurashi doesn't mean I don't appreciate the flaws. Also, art counts for very little to me. Enjoyment is the most important fact and I didn't enjoy Shiki. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:05 PM
#52
Well if you dont understand what's happening deeper behind the scenes you cant enjoy Shiki. I fully understand why kids dont like it. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:09 PM
#53
Krunchy said: Well if you dont know what's happening behind the scenes you cant enjoy Shiki. I fully understand why kids dont like it. wait wait Are you accusing me of being too immature to appreciate shiki? You can't use ad hominems; I'm going to be a douche about this sort of stuff from now on What do you mean 'behind the scenes?' I watched the series. That should be good enough for enjoyment. If I didn't enjoy it it means Shiki didn't suit my tastes. I don't understand why you think that someone who knows what happens 'behind the scenes' and is 'not a kid' is not able to not enjoy Shiki |
Jan 15, 2014 5:10 PM
#54
Krunchy said: Well if you dont understand what's happening deeper behind the scenes you cant enjoy Shiki. I fully understand why kids dont like it. I sure most understand what's going on, but the anime cannot be fully enjoyed because of the non-development of characters. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:10 PM
#55
Animefreak17a said: Would you say if it was a little longer for to give charecters more development and get to know them all more say.... another 15 or more episodes to give more development, I would say yes if that was the case then yes if it went on a lil longer and didn't have a rushed ending then maybe it might of been a bit better I don't think more episodes would have helped the team that created that show. If anything it should have been less episodes and just focused on the first chick that got turned, her love interest (cause he was important), a little less doctor, more monk and vampire interaction/explanation. It needs to fix the lopsidedness of the story to give it a better affect. Too many episodes were basically the same episode with different people and it just didn't develop well to me. |
There's no need for all this tension. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:11 PM
#56
Cupquake said: Krunchy said: Well if you dont know what's happening behind the scenes you cant enjoy Shiki. I fully understand why kids dont like it. wait wait Are you accusing me of being to immature too appreciate shiki? You can't use ad hominems; I'm going to be a douche about this sort of stuff from now on What do you mean 'behind the scenes?' I watched the series. That should be good enough for enjoyment. If I didn't enjoy it it means Shiki didn't suit my tastes. I don't understand why you think that someone who knows what happens 'behind the scenes' and is 'not a kid' is not able to not enjoy Shiki Let's keep our cool okay...oh and how was Elfen Lied? You seem to have a liking for it, hence the photo. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:12 PM
#57
Animefreak17a said: he could see the shiki didn't want to kill humans but they had no other choice if they still wanted to carry on living But the shiki's could have just rotated targets since t's the constant feeding on one person that killed them. Bear in mind that the original shiki's moved in with the explicit purpose of killing off the townsfolk to build their shitty kingdom. Animefreak17a said: the monk wanted peace and hated the killings, the humans killed out of hate, paranoia and fear and some of the humans was enjoying it But the shikis were at their core, human too. They just turned shiki's a few days/weeks/months ago. They have the memories of their human lives. They were the same person they were sans the blood craze and new found powers. You could argue that they're just using their power to do whatever the hell they want, thinking that they won't suffer the consequences. Having a shitty past doesn't justify ruining other people's lives. The woman who lost her son, Tohru was forced to kill his friend, the daughter that loved her mother so much she didn't mind getting fed on, Nao who lost her entire family and fell into despair, etc. All of those could have been avoided had Sunako been more mature. They could have had their steady supply of blood and the townsfolk would have been none the wiser. TL;DR: To me, both sides were human to the core. Some people deserved their fate and some didn't. Sunako brought all this misery upon herself. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:13 PM
#58
Majikkusesu said: Animefreak17a said: Would you say if it was a little longer for to give charecters more development and get to know them all more say.... another 15 or more episodes to give more development, I would say yes if that was the case then yes if it went on a lil longer and didn't have a rushed ending then maybe it might of been a bit better I don't think more episodes would have helped the team that created that show. If anything it should have been less episodes and just focused on the first chick that got turned, her love interest (cause he was important), a little less doctor, more monk and vampire interaction/explanation. It needs to fix the lopsidedness of the story to give it a better affect. Too many episodes were basically the same episode with different people and it just didn't develop well to me. That's something I'd want to watch...What you just said is basically what I thought the anime was going to be about, but no :( |
Jan 15, 2014 5:14 PM
#59
FullMetalRain said: Let's keep our cool okay...oh and how was Elfen Lied? You seem to have a liking for it, hence the photo. You probably won't like it. Elfen Lied is a good gateway anime, but i feel like the more experienced anime fans usually dislike it. With Elfen Lied it's important to maintain a strong suspension of disbelief and to not question why certain things are happening. Doing that makes the whole show very enjoyable. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:17 PM
#60
Cupquake said: FullMetalRain said: Let's keep our cool okay...oh and how was Elfen Lied? You seem to have a liking for it, hence the photo. You probably won't like it. Elfen Lied is a good gateway anime, but i feel like the more experienced anime fans usually dislike it. With Elfen Lied it's important to maintain a strong suspension of disbelief and to not question why certain things are happening. Doing that makes the whole show very enjoyable. Alright well hopefully I can prove you wrong by saying I will enjoy it :P saw the first episode and my first reactions well, doesn't seem like it would bore me. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:29 PM
#61
minescope said: Animefreak17a said: he could see the shiki didn't want to kill humans but they had no other choice if they still wanted to carry on living But the shiki's could have just rotated targets since t's the constant feeding on one person that killed them. Bear in mind that the original shiki's moved in with the explicit purpose of killing off the townsfolk to build their shitty kingdom. Animefreak17a said: the monk wanted peace and hated the killings, the humans killed out of hate, paranoia and fear and some of the humans was enjoying it But the shikis were at their core, human too. They just turned shiki's a few days/weeks/months ago. They have the memories of their human lives. They were the same person they were sans the blood craze and new found powers. You could argue that they're just using their power to do whatever the hell they want, thinking that they won't suffer the consequences. Having a shitty past doesn't justify ruining other people's lives. The woman who lost her son, Tohru was forced to kill his friend, the daughter that loved her mother so much she didn't mind getting fed on, Nao who lost her entire family and fell into despair, etc. All of those could have been avoided had Sunako been more mature. They could have had their steady supply of blood and the townsfolk would have been none the wiser. TL;DR: To me, both sides were human to the core. Some people deserved their fate and some didn't. Sunako brought all this misery upon herself. Oh and I suppose they could of done that for years with out being noticed if they rotated. Sunako was immature that's why I said it was a child's pipe dream. The humans was more at fault because of how they handled the hunt of the shiki. Humans fear and hate what they don't understand and intend to destroy them, its the doctors fault for not saying they was still them selfs like they was human, also humans are corrupted by having power all the time in the real world, the doctor knew they was still them selfs because he had that kid with him who turned in to one. |
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Jan 15, 2014 5:42 PM
#62
Cupquake said: If you don't know what happens behind the scenes you miss great part of the story, as for kids we know they haven't fully developed brain skills so sometimes they just aren't able to understand what's going on so thier entertainment is limited to action, blood and corpses.Krunchy said: Well if you dont know what's happening behind the scenes you cant enjoy Shiki. I fully understand why kids dont like it. wait wait Are you accusing me of being too immature to appreciate shiki? You can't use ad hominems; I'm going to be a douche about this sort of stuff from now on What do you mean 'behind the scenes?' I watched the series. That should be good enough for enjoyment. If I didn't enjoy it it means Shiki didn't suit my tastes. I don't understand why you think that someone who knows what happens 'behind the scenes' and is 'not a kid' is not able to not enjoy Shiki @Character development Victims usually dont recive any character development, in SHIKI we had long slow start just to gain feeling towards them what gave lot of emotions for momment of thier death. Character development was more than enough. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:45 PM
#63
Krunchy said: If you don't know what happens behind the scenes you miss great part of the story, as for kids we know they haven't fully developed brain skills so sometimes they just aren't able to understand what's going on a thier entertainment is limited to action, blood and corpses. @Character development Victims usually dont recive any character development, in SHIKI we had long slow start just to gain feeling towards them what gave lot of emotions for momment of thier death. Character development was more than enough. I don't think I cpmplained about poor character development; I complained about poor pacing because each episode felt like an eternity to me. So are you calling me a kid or not? Because if you aren't I see no point in you bringing that point up. And I assure you that I understood Shiki fully. I admit the plot was pretty good, but the way they went about doing the anime just bored the fuck out of me, as I've said countless times Also, you still haven't explained what you mean by 'behind the scenes' I watched all of each of the 18 episodes I completed. |
Jan 15, 2014 5:55 PM
#64
Animefreak17a said: Oh and I suppose they could of done that for years with out being noticed if they rotated. Sunako was immature that's why I said it was a child's pipe dream. It's certainly much better than deciding genocide from the get go. IIRC, shikis have the power to hypnotize and alter their memories so it wouldn't take much effort to do this. The point was that Sunako's intention from the get go was genocide. Animefreak17a said: The humans was more at fault because of how they handled the hunt of the shiki. There wouldn't be a a hunt for shikis in the first place if they didn't stupidly put themselves into the spotlight by murdering a good portion of the town's population. I'm also curious how you think they should have handled the hunt. These guys have lost their neighbors, mothers, fathers, children, grandchildren, etc. You can't expect them to say 'Hey, how about we pretend nothing happened'. You also can't expect them to just roll over and die. I agree that the sadism is something they could have done without but at the point the shiki's were revealed, coexistence wasn't a possibility. I sympathize more with the humans because I get where they are coming from. People have died and would have kept on dying if they didn't stop that shit pronto. |
Jan 15, 2014 6:10 PM
#65
minescope said: Animefreak17a said: Oh and I suppose they could of done that for years with out being noticed if they rotated. Sunako was immature that's why I said it was a child's pipe dream. It's certainly much better than deciding genocide from the get go. IIRC, shikis have the power to hypnotize and alter their memories so it wouldn't take much effort to do this. The point was that Sunako's intention from the get go was genocide. Animefreak17a said: The humans was more at fault because of how they handled the hunt of the shiki. There wouldn't be a a hunt for shikis in the first place if they didn't stupidly put themselves into the spotlight by murdering a good portion of the town's population. I'm also curious how you think they should have handled the hunt. These guys have lost their neighbors, mothers, fathers, children, grandchildren, etc. You can't expect them to say 'Hey, how about we pretend nothing happened'. You also can't expect them to just roll over and die. I agree that the sadism is something they could have done without but at the point the shiki's were revealed, coexistence wasn't a possibility. I sympathize more with the humans because I get where they are coming from. People have died and would have kept on dying if they didn't stop that shit pronto. Ok you stand by the crazy ass doctor who chopped up his wife and I'll stay with the peace loving monk What about the people the humans killed are you just going to say * it was for the great of good, it was the monks fault, it's normal for them to kill there fellow humans The pipe episode The temple episode The episode with the old man The human killed out of hate the shiki killed in order to live another day just like any other creature How is it different to what we do to animals Look at bull fighting in Spain Look a Thailand with there horse fights Look at us when we hunt for our food it's no different Look what we do to our fellow man Ok let's.say for example a mother tiger killed a loved one or two in order to feed her self and her cubs now these animals are just looking for nourishment in order to keep them selfs alive and siding have a choice how would you feel about that Would you kill the mother and cubs just because they was feeding them selfs, it's no different for the shiki they had no choice because they wanted to live another day, Humans killed out of hate and fear and paranoia and some was.enjoying it. Sorry but to me the series tells me that humans are more monster then what they are trying To kill. And I don't sympathies with the humans one bit |
I dislike lelouch vi Britannia. im a shiki supporter my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR90F0rzcss4CsrAbkZXTkg/featured?view_as=subscriber Just past the 1500th Mark bitches I approve this video http://youtu.be/U_0CCLxibFk |
Jan 15, 2014 6:32 PM
#66
Animefreak17a said: Ok you stand by the crazy ass doctor who chopped up his wife Not really. It's obvious what your stance on humans vs. anything is so it looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree. |
Jan 15, 2014 6:37 PM
#67
I sympathize with the Shikis. I mean look at the specials. |
Jan 15, 2014 6:41 PM
#68
BlueKite said: I sympathize with the Shikis. I mean look at the specials. Oh God that had me in tears. |
I dislike lelouch vi Britannia. im a shiki supporter my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR90F0rzcss4CsrAbkZXTkg/featured?view_as=subscriber Just past the 1500th Mark bitches I approve this video http://youtu.be/U_0CCLxibFk |
Jan 15, 2014 7:13 PM
#69
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Jan 16, 2014 6:08 AM
#70
Cupquake said: That was response to Fullmetalrein.Krunchy said: If you don't know what happens behind the scenes you miss great part of the story, as for kids we know they haven't fully developed brain skills so sometimes they just aren't able to understand what's going on a thier entertainment is limited to action, blood and corpses. @Character development Victims usually dont recive any character development, in SHIKI we had long slow start just to gain feeling towards them what gave lot of emotions for momment of thier death. Character development was more than enough. I don't think I cpmplained about poor character development; I complained about poor pacing because each episode felt like an eternity to me. So are you calling me a kid or not? Because if you aren't I see no point in you bringing that point up. And I assure you that I understood Shiki fully. I admit the plot was pretty good, but the way they went about doing the anime just bored the fuck out of me, as I've said countless times Also, you still haven't explained what you mean by 'behind the scenes' I watched all of each of the 18 episodes I completed. Your birth date says you are still kid, no without reason you cant be president if you haven't finished 40-45 years old (depend on country), I fully respect that rule and I know Im not mature enough and skilled to become president, but fear not it's typical in your age that you want to be mature. You say you understood Shiki fully and here comes your lie, even I dont understood Shiki fully after first watch and it's rather impossible to do for anyone expect creator. And here comes useful articles that will tell you what happen behind the scenes, if you havent lecture interpretation in highschool yet, you can use em to help yourself. Here you have one: http://gargarstegosaurus.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/the-massive-shiki-retrospective-part-one/ |
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