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Jan 12, 2014 8:10 AM

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She couldn't add Rudy to her friend's list, because you can't friendzone Rudy.
Jan 12, 2014 8:25 AM

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SetsukoHara said:
She couldn't add Rudy to her friend's list, because you can't friendzone Rudy.


BEST THEORY EVA!

hokaru said:
That's the only way to explain why Isuzu cried in the OP when Rudy dies.

Is this in the opening all the 15 episodes? I had never noticed it O.o.
Jan 12, 2014 8:39 AM

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very enjoyable episode 5/5
Jan 12, 2014 8:44 AM

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PauloDDD said:

Is this in the opening all the 15 episodes? I had never noticed it O.o.

Just how... how can you not notice it!!! Don't you watch the OP at all? Dx Because it's the scene whereby the dark sky, lightning and rain come running down! That's like the most beautiful scene in the OP, at least to me. I noticed that and had been concerned about 'that dying guy in the OP' since episode 1..
Jan 12, 2014 8:51 AM

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Ruby as a dog hihi. So... Izusu can't add him to friends list.
Those fish-mosters.. soo many.

Akatsuki had too little screen time ;_; .
Shiroe x Akatsuki :3
Jan 12, 2014 9:31 AM

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Lol Minori is too cute. ^_^ Good to see the party working together.
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて
Jan 12, 2014 9:33 AM
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Wow, looks like Rudy really is an NPC (Fuck you opening spoilers!). I'm not really surprised, but it's still going to be a really interesting development. I figured the People of the Land would start being able to level up and stuff at some point. If Rudy really is an NPC then it looks like he's the start of that chain... of course, he might've just been faking all of his stats.

One thing I wonder about that though, is if he's an NPC is how he eats hot sandwiches at a restaurant. I guess that could always be a new in-game place though... since I've seen them eating sandwiches before... it just seemed a little odd somehow.

jhinxsinx said:
i you played mmo like WoW and other ripoff of WoW that uses threat for some game mechanics.. Taunt /kite/aggro pull is very important for raid dungeon, this skill is needed to prevent mobs ganging healer and other low def range or melee dps.. being a tank is not that simple >.<
Ha! "ripoff of WoW"... I know for you and the other few people who for some reason alway think other MMORPGs are "rippoffs of WoW" this will fall on deaf ears, but World of Warcraft is NOT the first of it's kind. If anything, WoW is the very definition of a ripoff, albeit an extremely popular one. But I assure you that aggro didn't start with WoW (take Everquest, or Dark Age of Camelot for example). But I guess this really isn't the place to argue about World of Warcraft, I just can't resist when it comes to such nonsensical claims.


Every single RPG game must be ripping off to each other considering almost all (if not all) uses HP, MP, STR, AGI, INT, Swordsman, Archer, Magician, and the skills were pretty much the same.


WoW is the one that majorly mainstream MMORPG. What WoW did was rip-off the best features of a lot of classic mmorpg and refined it all into a single game. Currently, they are slowly moving into the realm of innovation for MMORPG by incorporating new features many MMORPG is overlooking in the past.

I've played WoW for a while, not a fan of it, but I still play it because of my friend. If it wasn't for WoW, the whole development of MMORPG would be stagnating, instead of developers trying to create that one amazing features that stands out and attract new gamers to their games.

If you look at only one of these system being introduce, the evolution of MMORPG is almost non-existant until you move back and look at it from a bigger time frame.
Jan 12, 2014 10:48 AM

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One word.

Murlocs.

(p.s. the episode was really eventful, can't wait for the next one.)
Jan 12, 2014 11:33 AM
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DejWoSWK said:
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ReGan is Sage of Mirror Lake and his level is only level 28, most soldier level are around 20-30
if Rudy is people of the land, being level 23 at his age mean he is one tough motherfucker for NPC. maybe he is a prodigy child that expert in magic, that could explain why he act so arrogant. but he still a landers his strength couldn't compare with adventurer


Rundelhaus could be a descendant of one of those legendary heroes,mentioned by Regan, who can rival even players in terms of strength.


As a npc rundelhaus level up 4 time less fast as an adventurer ( Novel ) .
Btw For those that want to know rudy's fate and can't wait the two next episodes :

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Jan 12, 2014 11:47 AM

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PauloDDD said:
SetsukoHara said:
She couldn't add Rudy to her friend's list, because you can't friendzone Rudy.


BEST THEORY EVA!

Lol'd, +1
Jan 12, 2014 1:35 PM

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I wonder whats going on with Rudy, good episode
Jan 12, 2014 2:05 PM

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yumekotan said:
All I could hear at the end was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMPpnCvCZvw

/war flashbacks


More like - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHgRAlkpxJw
Jan 12, 2014 2:45 PM

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Find it hilarious they reached lvl 25-30 without any remote knowledge of how to party, and have to sit down and explain all their skills? What did they do till lvl 25, kill boars? (South Park, WoW episode reference for the ones who didn't realise)

Also, a 2H wielding tank, tanking 4 mobs with the focus on taunt? That shit wouldn't fly in vanilla wow, as a former tank I'd guarantee you that. The tank would get raped to hard to the point that the healer would be spamming heal and steal agro. Also, the only thing Minori was doing was acting as a look out? Though in her report to Shirou she was a off healer...
But yeah, the way the group handled this piss easy mob patrol, hardly makes me think the author is an experienced mmorpger. Or he had to be playing one piss easy mmorpg.
Jan 12, 2014 3:36 PM

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Hey guys, let's not forget that for them it isn't a mmorpg, it's real life. They don't see anything else than what their eyes show them, if there's a skeleton behind the corner that you would obviously see with the camera, they won't know it until they turn the damn corner.
If they turn their back to an opponent to face another one, they completely lose sight of the rest of the environment behind them.

Making it so that the field is overseen the most possible is someone's job is a great idea in my opinion.

Fear, stress and other emotions can easily affect them as well. When you're behind your computer, clicking on stuff it's easy not to feel those but when you're running for your life, feel tired and have to swing the sword yourself it's another matter.

Personal skill also matter and I don't mean button masshing your macros. Dodging strikes is not the same as pressing a few key on your keyboard and when you turn your back to your oponent you completely lose sight of them (unlike simply starring at a camera like your typical mmorpg work)

Comparing the situation they live in Log Horizon with a real mmorpg like WoW is retarded as fuck so please stop.
Jan 12, 2014 4:43 PM

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Here's an excerpt from the translated novel pertaining to why they have trouble even though they're fighting trashy mobs:




Credit's to the translators and Baka-Tsuki (hosting site)
Jan 12, 2014 4:57 PM

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Alright episode. Not the most interesting, but well done I guess.
Jan 12, 2014 5:23 PM

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mugiwara84 said:
Find it hilarious they reached lvl 25-30 without any remote knowledge of how to party, and have to sit down and explain all their skills? What did they do till lvl 25, kill boars? (South Park, WoW episode reference for the ones who didn't realise)

Also, a 2H wielding tank, tanking 4 mobs with the focus on taunt? That shit wouldn't fly in vanilla wow, as a former tank I'd guarantee you that. The tank would get raped to hard to the point that the healer would be spamming heal and steal agro. Also, the only thing Minori was doing was acting as a look out? Though in her report to Shirou she was a off healer...
But yeah, the way the group handled this piss easy mob patrol, hardly makes me think the author is an experienced mmorpger. Or he had to be playing one piss easy mmorpg.


Look man. This isn't a typical "piss easy" mainstream MMORPG like goddamn WoW. This is modeled after older classics like EQ or D&D. And they are fighting in real time using their own bodies as opposed to clicking on a damn keyboard and staring at a damn screen sipping hot coco. For more details on why they have trouble w/ low level mobs and why they ABSOLUTELY NEED a look out refer to my post above.
Jan 12, 2014 5:45 PM

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Mikenzb said:
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wtf isnt Marielle lvl90 aswell? so even a max lvl Character can be the defenceless damsel in distress...

You know thats what I was thinking myself.


actually in the original LN when shouryu (?) arrived at the beach, marielle was fighting off hordes of those, bleeding while the lv 10's-20's were running for their life. he tells her to go back and gather others, while drawing his swords he spins, splatting black blood of the shanigans everywhere.
also, there were members of other guilds there fighting against them (like those from black sword knight guilds)

remember, the original LN is more detailed and much more brutal than the anime shows.
current LN reading:
Death March kara hajimaru isekai kyousoukyoku
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Jan 12, 2014 7:30 PM

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Ohh this is the last episode of their trainings, I'm quite relieved. Now I will get to see shiroe and akatsuki more...

Dat rudy...


Waaat! There's a lot of demi-humans/goblins! It looks like it'll be more exciting and action-packed next episode! :D
Jan 12, 2014 8:09 PM
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mugiwara84 said:

Also, a 2H wielding tank, tanking 4 mobs with the focus on taunt? That shit wouldn't fly in vanilla wow, as a former tank I'd guarantee you that.


And then came death knights... that aside vanilla WoW is a terrible comparison for balance.

mugiwara84 said:
Find it hilarious they reached lvl 25-30 without any remote knowledge of how to party

Why? It is pretty easy to do in pretty much every single MMORPG I have ever played. Hell in WoW I didn't party until like level ~40 and barely set foot into instances until ZG got released.

mugiwara84 said:

The tank would get raped to hard to the point that the healer would be spamming heal and steal agro. Also, the only thing Minori was doing was acting as a look out?

He is higher level then the rest of the group, not to mention aggro mechanics work pretty differently then in WoW.


swordstriker21 said:
Here's an excerpt from the translated novel pertaining to why they have trouble even though they're fighting trashy mobs


Honestly, a large part of why they have trouble is because their group is really weak. Gear wise the majority have gear for players ~10 levels lower then themselves, and their composition is poor as well.
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Jan 12, 2014 8:51 PM

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everytime just when I thought everything is going to calm down and stuff, you give me a plot twist urghhh

now who the heck is Rudy?!
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Jan 12, 2014 9:34 PM

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590292009 said:
Honestly, a large part of why they have trouble is because their group is really weak. Gear wise the majority have gear for players ~10 levels lower then themselves, and their composition is poor as well.


That's only a part of the overall problem. As you can see from the excerpt even Naotsugu and Shiroe had trouble fighting off lvl. 20 Goblins at first. Not because of how strong the mobs were but because they had trouble adjusting to real battles as opposed to controlling your avatar through a PC. They were Lvl. 90 and had a wealth of experience playing MMOs and ET. Now throw those same problems at under leveled, under equipped noobs like Minori and company and you have got a major problem.
Jan 12, 2014 10:38 PM

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Dang, so many cliff hangers. What's up with the friend list and that huge army? Who's the Goblin King? What a great episode. I appreciate how well though out this world is. Can't wait to see true politics in action now that they've been trying to forge bonds with the POTL so far. Great to see that Minori was able to resolve their issues.

I hope no one loses their memories, though :'C
These faces are so cute that I might just leave them here (#`Д´)´∀`)・ω・) ゚Д゚)゚∀゚)・∀・) ̄ー ̄)´_ゝ`)
Jan 12, 2014 11:25 PM

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It doesn't make sense how Rudy can not be an adventurer. He clearly gains experience and levels up. The People of the Land don't have that capability. Surely he can't gain it just from wanting to be an adventurer? Also, he's been to the real world I think, because he was reminiscing about a sandwich shop he used to visit there.
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Jan 12, 2014 11:43 PM

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brass2themax said:
He clearly gains experience and levels up.

I don't remember the show ever saying that Landers can or can't level up.

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He was reminiscing about a sandwich shop he used to visit there.

IIRC, weren't there new food shops set up in Akihabara after they disclosed the cooking method? I vaguely remember that even the PK group back in the early episodes have a shop.

It could go either ways really, there's ample and heavy handed suspicion being cast on Rudie but then again there's no concrete proof on what exactly are they hinting.
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Jan 13, 2014 12:51 AM

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Love this episode, , minori voice is so adorable. the expression of shiroe when he hear minori's story is like when you hear story from someone which you already know how it would be process (cause you already know the fact or have same experience)

I think Rudy will become key figure here, I think he has connection with the one who cast the world fraction magic (if i remember correctly, nobody know about the one who cast this magic, right!?). and he also sorcerer here, so i think it's possible. :v

I kind of disappointed with marie reaction, as a guild master at least she should remain calm.
Jan 13, 2014 1:22 AM

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Quite an interesting episode with the team working together in the dungeon by learning more about each other and Shiroe seems to have found a reason for moving forward due to this event.

Seems like Rudy has blocked access for being added as a friend? Maybe something happened in his past that made him this way. I wonder who the Goblin King is and there really are a lot of things that we don`t know about in the Elder Tale world.

It ends with the army of fishes invading where Marie and the other are so can`t wait to see the battles in the next episode!!

5/5



Jan 13, 2014 1:28 AM
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this my 1st post, love this anime, this anime rocks for mmo gamers..:D
Jan 13, 2014 3:19 AM

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brass2themax said:
It doesn't make sense how Rudy can not be an adventurer. He clearly gains experience and levels up. The People of the Land don't have that capability. Surely he can't gain it just from wanting to be an adventurer? Also, he's been to the real world I think, because he was reminiscing about a sandwich shop he used to visit there.

I'll point out again that Isuzu said "Let's go for hot pollock roe sandwiches sometime." as she was about to add Rudy to her friend list. This would only be possible if hot pollock roe sandwiches were something in Elder Tale, not from Earth. ...well, there is the possibility that some chef character re-created a dish from Earth in Elder Tale. I googled "hot pollock roe" and "Ray Parker", but found nothing conclusive about such a thing existing on Earth. Someone tell me if they find anything better.


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I kind of disappointed with marie reaction, as a guild master at least she should remain calm.
I'd say it fits her character okay... she's not a combat specialist, and her guild isn't combat focused either.


About combat:
#165 seems to make a good argument as to why you can't be a tactician AND participate in full combat too.

Also, Elder Tale isn't WoW, or any MMORPG from real life. Therefore it seems reasonable to me that the game mechanics of Elder Tale allow combat to happen in the way the anime and light novel depict it. It only needs to be consistent with itself, not with any other game you choose to compare it to. >.>
Jan 13, 2014 3:42 AM

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Newbies proper learning their roles. Nothing more satisfying than that, really.


I love LOGH, but it's so dumb how the "post apocalyptic" scene is taken so lightly. They should at least expect monster invasions, wars, database anormalities, death penalties and etc, wtf.
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Jan 13, 2014 5:20 AM
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I loved this ep,its awesome how they know each other more know,their teamwork was awesome! :D
I think that Rudy is some special kind of NPC :)
Jan 13, 2014 5:26 AM

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The group of Minori had a great progress.
Great episode.
Jan 13, 2014 5:52 AM

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I wonder who the Goblin King is

David Bowie.
Jan 13, 2014 7:51 AM

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The explanations were incredibly cringy in the beginning.

The scene with Lenessia didn't really have a purpose.

On the topic of dungeon trash difficulty, It's obvious that their main problem wasn't that of a bad adaptation to first person combat (they weren't trembling in fear- they looked fine) but rather because most of them never bothered to read up on MMORPG mechanics before starting (filthy casuals). For an MMO that has been out for TWO DECADES, I'd find it surprising if this information wasn't already available to them while Elder Tale was still a game.

On the topic of Rudy, (spoilers obvs)
Jan 13, 2014 8:11 AM

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For an MMO that has been out for TWO DECADES, I'd find it surprising if this information wasn't already available to them while Elder Tale was still a game.

Happens in all MMOs:

Newb/noob: *spams "How do you...?"*
Player: RTFM
Newb/noob: We have a manual?
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Jan 13, 2014 8:12 AM

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I find this episode less boring than the last few episodes
Jan 13, 2014 8:21 AM

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FrostbyteDOT said:

On the topic of Rudy, (spoilers obvs)


Not quite right.
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antipurefaith said:
wtf isnt Marielle lvl90 aswell? so even a max lvl Character can be the defenceless damsel in distress...


her boobs/jugs are level 90 ~_~


Jan 13, 2014 10:49 AM

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Holy fuck that army at the end gave me a good adrenaline rush and made me laugh out like an evil maniac. Shit is going down now.
Jan 13, 2014 4:18 PM

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The only thing I could think of when I saw them coming out of the sea : Mrglglglgl !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMPpnCvCZvw
Jan 13, 2014 5:11 PM

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brass2themax said:
It doesn't make sense how Rudy can not be an adventurer. He clearly gains experience and levels up. The People of the Land don't have that capability. Surely he can't gain it just from wanting to be an adventurer? Also, he's been to the real world I think, because he was reminiscing about a sandwich shop he used to visit there.


I think I need to clarify this for you guys. Mind you it might be classified as spoilers.

Jan 13, 2014 5:43 PM

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Hmmm I wonder what's up with that army of fish monsters and why Rudy couldn't be added as a friend. Next episode gonna be gud.
Jan 13, 2014 7:19 PM

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rudy can't be added to a friends list? oh god
is he an npc then? man i'm so curious a;sldkfj

i found their victory extremely underwhelming
they strategized that much for... THAT? .__. wow

i was kinda let down, not gonna lie :(
Jan 13, 2014 8:26 PM
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If ever there was a time not to read the spoilers. This is the time.

FrostbyteDOT said:
For an MMO that has been out for TWO DECADES, I'd find it surprising if this information wasn't already available to them while Elder Tale was still a game.


The newbies hadn't been playing for two decades tho. The refugees from Hamelin were (largely) part of the influx of new & younger players that had been drawn in for the expansion.
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rudy can't be added to a friends list? oh god
is he an npc then? man i'm so curious a;sldkfj

i found their victory extremely underwhelming
they strategized that much for... THAT? .__. wow

i was kinda let down, not gonna lie :(


I felt the episode was weak as well.

They certainly could have portrayed the events much better.
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ZensunniPhi said:
shayney said:
rudy can't be added to a friends list? oh god
is he an npc then? man i'm so curious a;sldkfj

i found their victory extremely underwhelming
they strategized that much for... THAT? .__. wow

i was kinda let down, not gonna lie :(


I felt the episode was weak as well.

They certainly could have portrayed the events much better.


Well in the novel they defeated the "Burning Dead" - a dungeon boss.
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Jal51 said:
The only thing I could think of when I saw them coming out of the sea : Mrglglglgl !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMPpnCvCZvw
Lol, yeah every time I see them in the opening I think of murlocs.
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xchee said:
FrostbyteDOT said:
For an MMO that has been out for TWO DECADES, I'd find it surprising if this information wasn't already available to them while Elder Tale was still a game.
Happens in all MMOs:

Newb/noob: *spams "How do you...?"*
Player: RTFM
Newb/noob: We have a manual?

I can't help but imagine that there'd be more outdated than current information available for a 20 year old MMORPG.


shayney said:
i found their victory extremely underwhelming
they strategized that much for... THAT? .__. wow

i was kinda let down, not gonna lie :(
I'll agree a bit. Seems quite anticlimactic when they declare that there are no more enemies, and no more enemies appear. Quite sure I would have wanted to see that Burning Dead at the blast furnace. O.o
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I'll agree a bit. Seems quite anticlimactic when they declare that there are no more enemies, and no more enemies appear. Quite sure I would have wanted to see that Burning Dead at the blast furnace. O.o


Weve just been spoiled by Attack on Titan. "Oh everything is clear where fine gu-" SPLOSSH A MOTHERFUCKING GIANT TITAN APPEARS AND STOMPS EVERYTHING TO DEATH.

In this anime clear means clear.
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Still enjoying every episode, glad to see that they were able to work as a team, and also something big is about to happen hence that cliffhanger!
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