| A fairly detailed summary of what happens in WA2 past the IC. I'd highly recommend reading the visual novel over reading a basic summary of it. But since that's not a practical choice for most people, this entry exists. Enjoy. http://mdzanime.me/2013/12/29/white-album-2-concluding-chapter-coda-rough-summary/ I won't be responding to comments after a while. They tend to deteriorate. If you have a question, then by all means, post on my profile, I'll try answering to the best of my abilities. Chiaki's route is now out: http://mdzanime.me/2014/01/28/white-album-2-chiaki-chapter/ Subsequent analysis of how White Album 2 develops pure love is up: http://mdzanime.me/2014/09/16/white-album-2-todokanai-koi-and-proof-of-true-love/ A summary of White Album 2's Extra Chapter (depicting the events of Kazusa's normal route) is out: Merry Christmas to you too. Also, this year for Christmas, I collaborated with another writer in doing the summary for White Album 2's Extra Chapter: http://mdzanime.me/2014/12/25/white-album-2-extra-chapter-to-you-my-sworn-enemy/ Setsuna Character Analysis: http://mdzanime.me/2015/02/06/white-album-2-the-facets-of-setsuna-the-terrifying-manipulator/ After the Festival ~Setsuna's thirty minutes~ (novel translation): http://mdzanime.me/2015/03/22/white-album-2-after-the-festival-setsunas-30-minutes/ |
mdzMar 22, 2015 6:47 PM
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Venats said: mdz said: It seems that there's been some popular interest in something similar to this. It's missing a lot of details. But it's still spanning ~6k words. It's a fairly-detailed summary of what happens in Coda, It's from memory, so there may be some mistakes within it. http://mdzanime.me/2013/12/29/white-album-2-concluding-chapter-coda-rough-summary/ That was good enough, anyone who wants more details can play the VN on their own! |
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startsuif said: Gotta finish IC. Which you should.Thank you for the post! Really gave me motivation to play the vn!(some rotes at least) But,since the anime just ended,i wanted to start from the CC,can i do that?(I have the IC+CC game),or need to play all the IC first? |
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startsuif said: No idea, it saved fine for me. Sorry.Ok man,i will play the IC to,actually i am playing already.Thanks anyway! I´m just now a little desperate cause this thing is not saving,that happened with you?Like you save but,there´s some messages and the file is not there,and i don´t know what to do,if you know something please help! |
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| Thx for posting this! i've been looking everywhere for the whole story of what happens after IC. Personally i think Kazusa's True End is the truest end. Kazusa's normal end works too but Setsuna's True End is the weakest by far |
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| Okay, okay. Now I'm certain that it's done. Since the original, I remembered more from the Concluding Chapter details and the Coda common route. Kazusa's and Setsuna's Coda routes are much more polished than they were prior; more so the former, since it was more memorable to me. Since the original post, there's been an additional ~3k words or so. |
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| Anyone has the link for the IC + CC + CODA ? In English , pls. Thanks. |
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Riez said: Anyone has the link for the IC + CC + CODA ? In English , pls. Thanks. It's not translated. IC's almost done being translated, but it still needs extensive editing. CC+ Coda should be translated within the decade or so. |
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| Might as well give up on that translation. The guy doesn't know english very well and it's going to take him forever to edit it, let alone translate it. Sadly it would be quicker just to learn japanese haha (no sarcasm either). |
| Haha I am learning Japanese ATM and I can definitely assure you that it would be better for you to learn the language instead of waiting for a translation. :) |
| Dies Irae! :) |
| This is a great summary, thank you! I don't love Setsuna because she's a good girl, though, I love her because she's conniving and manipulative and is completely in touch with the negative aspects of her own character. I would probably hate her if she played the innocent. |
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yogotah said: Really enjoyed your summary, mdz, it was detailed and well put together. But after reading all the possible route, I still find myself unsatisfied....I can't find that closure that I'm looking for after watching the anime version, I think it may be best for me to just leave the whole project alone and forget about it. It'll take time. This is the exact reason why I took a two year break from romantic drama anime.. Eh, I think that's part of the beauty of the work, though. I don't think I'll ever forget White Album 2. It'll resonate me forever, because of the story that it tells. It's not a story that ends entirely happily. It's not a story entirely fulfilled. But it's a good story nonetheless. |
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| What kind of ending did you want yogotah? Anything in mind? |
| Although I like Setsuna more than Kazusa, I think Kazusa's true ending is more realistic and natural. It's more acceptable for me. nice summary by the way but what is with the "your gonna get lynched if you post bad things about setsuna", I think its the other way around considering that there are heck of a lot more kazusa biased fans out there than setsuna. |
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zombiemojo said: Yeah, that's blatantly given in her CC route, isn't it? |
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| Nah I can see where you're coming from. Personally I think all 3 endings in the VN kinda suck if you ask me and I wasn't satisfied with any of them either. I might prefer the Uwaki route to the rest (which you would hate given your summary) but I still find it pretty lousy regardless. You're version would certainly make the characters more likable and more sympathetic for sure. I had a big beef with how they handled the characters as well. I mean I get that they wanted to paint flaws on all of them, but they took it too far. And unfortunately most of them became completely unbearable and impossible to sympathize with by the end. They might have been interesting, but I certainly didn't care about any of them after a certain point. Then again that's more of a personal thing I guess. Not really my biggest problem with WA2. |
hyperknees91Jan 4, 2014 2:21 PM
| I care about wasted potential. Believe it or not I did actually like all 3 of them in the IC even until the end. |
| I didn't mean the side heroine endings actually. The endings they have are a bit...on the cheezy side but not necessarily bad by any means. Mari is the win though, great character (plus she has a great side character in her route). I was talking about the 3 endings to the actual game. There is no true ending. Yeah it's hard for me to shake off my interest off of anything that I devoted a lot of time to (so pretty much any visual novel). Once you spend 60+ hours with something it's kinda...just apart of you forever lawl. |
| After spending ~50 hours reading, it's impossible not to care to some extent, about the characters. It's not fun reading in foreign text. It's fascinating at times, but it's painful to. A minute seems like a second, and an hour, unlike it at all. Haruki's an idiot. The viewer grows to dislike him greatly, not because he's a bad person, but because he's an indecisive person. He doesn't exactly do anything ridiculous -- he's just left with a dilemma that doesn't have the easiest solution. I don't think I could genuinely hate his character though. The characters within WA2 were all flawed to a great extent. Some were blatant [Kazusa's inability to do anything but the piano], while others, more apt for argument [Setsuna's love for Haruki, should it really exist?]. WA2 IC is not a complete story. If we were to compare lines, the IC has a tenth of the lines as does Coda and CC. This summary, while blatant in illustrating what happens, omits a lot of crucial detail [e.g. particular monologues, the feel of the moment, actually getting immersed and reading the novel]. WA2 at the end of the day, is a visual novel. I don't think an anime adaptation is the best medium for understanding the entirety of it. The viewer's like Haruki. On the first playthrough, you're given minimal details. As you complete route after route in CC and Coda, you begin to unlock more and more scenes in IC. Gradually, like small pieces of a puzzle, everything comes together. The mysteries are solved, and the intentions, explained. An anime just can't quite do that. |
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| Yeah hence why I don't think the anime should bother to try and be an accurate adaption. It's better off doing it's own thing. |
| You really think she was just doing all that because she wanted to gain sympathy? It kinda makes sense actually. Regardless of how pathetic she claims to be, I doubt a grown woman can't comb her hair properly. Didn't really think of that, that would actually be fairly amusing and I would have to give her some credit if that was the case. I mean I did find it funny when she was all like "Oh no mom don't leave meeee" then once Haruki became her boyfriend again she was all like "Nah I'm good" |
hyperknees91Jan 4, 2014 4:02 PM
hyperknees91 said: You really think she was just doing all that because she wanted to gain sympathy? It kinda makes sense actually. Regardless of how pathetic she claims to be, I doubt a grown woman can't comb her hair properly. Didn't really think of that, that would actually be fairly amusing and I would have to give her some credit if that was the case. I mean I did find it funny when she was all like "Oh no mom don't leave meeee" then once Haruki became her boyfriend again she was all like "Nah I'm good" Haruki does her hair for her in Coda. Prior to that, her assistant or her mother did it for her. She cannot comb her own hair. She wanted someone to be by her side. Her mother was her staple. Regardless of what happens, she'd be there. She has terminal cancer. If not her mother, then who else? Right -- the only other individual in the world who she has a close enough connection with. Kazusa cannot cook. When she tried, she nearly burnt her apartment down. She's not capable of working. She's never had to worry about money. She's used to ignoring people that she dislikes. When she was pestered by a female reporter who couldn't take 'no' for an answer, she literally dropped her bags and ran away. She's inept with handling social situations. Kazusa can drive. But as you can see, her car's not in the best shape. She can play other instruments, that's definitely true; but her forte is still the piano. It's not exactly difficult to know a language casually. It's even simpler if you live in the country. Stating that you know how to say hello, where something is, and goodbye in a foreign language does not equal fluency. And even if she were fluent, it's not exactly difficult to learn a language. Everybody does it at some point in time. Kazusa's not retarded. She's just difficult. |
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yogotah said: or even transform Ogiso into a worldwide stalker (which due to her past traumas, it would be coherent) and then you continue the saga.. While I certainly wouldn't want the same things you would from WA2(that would be too pure for me + it'd lack passion :P),I can also see where you're coming from but not with this comment. It would turn Setsuna into an antagonist which would be a really cheap cop-out. The fact that there's no real antagonist to this story is a main reason why I believe it's so emotionally devastating(in a good way). This can actually be applied to a variety of genres as it's easy for the characters,as well as the viewers,to put aside their differences & rally against a common foe. There are way too many shows like this anyway,no need to throw this one in with the lot of them. If anyone here's watching Nagi no Asukara as well I could use that one as an example so don't bother reading this part if you aren't: I actually like that show(not nearly as much as WA2 though) and one could say it's characters are more likeable,because they are pure. Even when they screw up,rather than disliking them I'll dislike the ones painted as the "bad guys"(even if not much) in the show. Take the MC,Hikari,for instance who started off by annoying many,many viewers but eventually developed quite nicely. I didn't exactly like him at the beginning either but I found it hard to hate him. Instead,my hatred(although there wasn't that much of it) was directed towards the adults of Shishishio for being a terrible influence to a boy his age. With the recent events,that *minor* hatred is directed towards the sea god. There's none of that in WA2. At least,not in this season and I do hope it stays that way(I should also mention that I've only read a bit of mdz's summary as I don't want to be spoiled too much - yes,I know I'm the wrong thread) Sure I could start pointing fingers left & right but I like to think of myself as an understanding person and as it stands with this IC adaptation, the characters's actions are indeed understandable. It wasn't right,but I can't hate them for it. If that indeed changes in the CC & Coda adaptations then it's a shame,but I'll have to see it for myself before I can really decide. yogotah said: That would piss off a lot of the purist out there, but in the end would probably lead into a more fluid story. I hope that one day,purists would stop complaining about an anime not being a 100% accurate adaptation if said anime adaptation actually ends up being better. I can see why some of them are like that though because let's face it, not many adaptations are actually better than the source material so they'd naturally prefer the safer option. In some cases you still have to take that risk though,and this adapting CC might just be one of them. |
ManlyTearJan 4, 2014 11:10 PM
| That's where opinions differ I guess. I hardly see these characters as detestable from what I've seen in this anime adaptation. It might change later on or it might not - like I said I have to see it for myself to really decide. But I'm not gonna spoil myself any further unless I'd somehow be sure that there wouldn't be another WA2 anime. Besides,even if I'd read mdz's entire summary,he himself said that it still omits a lot of detail. Over the show's run,I saw a few VN players(mainly on other forums & aniblogs) that didn't think of the characters any different than in the IC as well as the ones who did. Therefore,I hardly think that the fact that we'll all end up detesting all 3 characters is set in stone. I'm just gonna have to wait & see then :P |
ManlyTearJan 5, 2014 1:57 AM
| The reason Haruki becomes unlikable is because you have to spend 60 friggin hours with a guy who has barely no sense of humor. Over-analyzes things to a frustrating degree, constantly is lecturing people and is indecisive as hell. He's not necessarily a bad main character, but my god is he exhausting to put up with for that long of a time. Plus he becomes predictable if you read the side heroine routes, so nothing he does after that is really that surprising. So needless to say he will be far less annoying in the anime adaption just because it will be shorter. The other 2 Idk how you're going to feel. Setsuna becomes much more complex so I think it's kind of hard not to change your opinion on her personally. I don't think WA2 is about true love or anything like that though so I don't think it missed the point. I think it's more about being honest with yourself. |
| Maybe its symbolic, on how immature she actually is. |
| Yeah...I just don't understand why Setsuna would act like that at all. Her dad really needed to smack her upside the face at a certain point, I think that's all the girl really needed. Instead she gets hit by a truck lawl. |
hyperknees91 said: The reason Haruki becomes unlikable is because you have to spend 60 friggin hours with a guy who has barely no sense of humor. I can definitely see where you're coming from. I've started playing Grisaia No Kajitsu recently and I found myself taking days worth of breaks every now & then. I still like it,just not as much as I used to when I started. Yuuji is by no means a bad protagonist but his self-loathing,especially when he's almost flawless,gets kind of tiring. I find flawless characters pretty boring after a while though so I might be biased. There are also exceptions,such as Sharin no Kuni where the Kenichi is pretty flawless as well(more like OP) but I never really got bored of him. Then again,that guy did have a good sense of humor. @yogotah: I'll always prefer anime to VNs,unless the adaptation fails(sadly,that happens too often). I even regret starting Grisaia No Kajitsu when I found out that it's getting an anime. That's just me though. But I'm getting off-topic here. hyperknees91 said: The other 2 Idk how you're going to feel. Setsuna becomes much more complex so I think it's kind of hard not to change your opinion on her personally. Oh,I'll be looking forward to that :) |
ManlyTearJan 5, 2014 5:43 AM
| Lawl Grisaia definitely suffers from pacing issues up the wazoo. Thankfully the girls are far more compelling then he is, so I would keep at it. At the very least read Amane's route. Yeah there's a few anime I prefer the adaption of. Namely School Days, Kanon and Higurashi. Pacing is a huge issue with a lot of authors unfortunately so they can be rather boring to read. |
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| Chiaki's route is now out. http://mdzanime.me/2014/01/28/white-album-2-chiaki-chapter/ Courtesy of ZeroHumor. |
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