Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Movie -Rebellion-
What do you think of Homura after her role in Rebellion?
SolviteSekai said: YEs everyone likes Rebellion for those reasons.The Truth: People like Grimdark Satan Allegory Homura more than Normal sense making Homura. Thats why the movie is so successful. Because its not Urobuchi without mind rape, crazy face and suicide. Not to mention that Homura was always the same, excluding her powers. |
ssjokg said: SolviteSekai said: YEs everyone likes Rebellion for those reasons.The Truth: People like Grimdark Satan Allegory Homura more than Normal sense making Homura. Thats why the movie is so successful. Because its not Urobuchi without mind rape, crazy face and suicide. Not to mention that Homura was always the same, excluding her powers. No but thats why people like new homura. I wont bother arguing with you. You are like english speaking dateyukata. |
SolviteSekai said: ssjokg said: YEs everyone likes Rebellion for those reasons. Not to mention that Homura was always the same, excluding her powers. No but thats why people like new homura. I wont bother arguing with you. You are like english speaking dateyukata. Yeah if you hated Homura you would like th movie...ok.Both are the same thing since she is on screen 90% of the time. The only thing you are capable of is ad hominem.It's better for everyone if you dont bother. |
Psajdako-chan said: Ahahaha... Talking about Madoka and Homura as if they're actually characters... They're not. Madoka - girl with mindset to become Jesus, also 100% goody - goody with 0 typical negative human qualities, especially for a girl her age. Homura - even bigger garbage. For some reason becomes obsessed with Madoka just because she called her Homura-chan, and was nice to her. People say she ruined series in third movie, but honestly she ruined series for me since she appeared. She was kinda promising in the beginning of third movie, but her fate as shitty something later was sealed. The only good aspects of her are interesting abilities, and character design which makes for really good fanarts. Sayaka, Kyoko, Mami, and Kyuubey are real characters, and amazing as well. Actually, even Nagisa in her short sceentime was more acceptable as character than Madoka and Homura. They have their good and bad sides, but you can still like them very much. EDIT: Still, about Madoka, I must admit I did kinda liked when she basically showed Homura middle finger at the end of third movie. I find it pretty common in Urobuchi written stories that the supporting cast is usually far more interesting and plausible than the major cast members the latter of which instead of feeling like living breathing and developing human characters that can be described as something resembling natural instead come off as artificial vessels to be representatives of ideologies that are then pitted against each other with some ironic outcome that typically favors the one deemed as being less naive or altruistically inclined. Madoka and Homura are kind of the same way, it's just they took longer getting to that point....like entire entire TV series plus two thirds of a movie. And yeah to me Homura's whole character back story was never that well written in the first place. A lot of it is just implied since we basically see a character that goes from one extreme to another in terms of how she worships this one other character with only the vaguest of explanations as to how that even comes to pass since we never particularly see her struggle so much as are told about it. This is kind of how you make a popular and beloved character now it seems, but it's pretty ineffective on me. Nice character design, just kind of not a character that inspires any sort of particular feeling or attachment in me or that feels particularly plausible. I will say this though, to me Homura is a character that best seems to represent Urobuchi's fucked up world view and how he sees the laws and natural state of the universe and while many fans seem to have casually embraced it as accurate and fair I personally think it's kind of bullshit and laughable and a sign of the kind of person Miyazaki was talking about when he says too many industry people don't spend enough time around actual people and observing how they interact in a real world environment. Gen Urobuchi's writing style to me is nowhere near as applicable to the real world either philosophically or social commentary wise as it is to the enclosed and embittered otaku one IMO. And yeah I reserve the right to have this impression. The priests can come in and yell holler and scream and call me a hater as much as they want or whatever but it's kind of up to the work itself to convince me of something, not a gang of people getting angry and trying to force an opinion out of me. InTheOtherWorld said: Not everyone analyses Madoka Magica with a deep and analytical mind. Some people just want to enjoy it. What they saw was a cool girl who would do anything to protect her friend. They liked that. What they then got was a dark and psychotic character who wasn't like this cool girl in the slightest. They didn't like that. That's all there is to it. It doesn't matter if this dark character is the reality of the cool girl or not. It's as simple as that. Would you like it if you were promised an action-thriller movie at the cinema, only to find out it was a rom-com? Not many people would, even if it were the true side of the movie. The same goes for this, because ultimately Madoka Magica is just a TV show. Wow imagine that. Lot of sense being talked in this paragraph. And yeah not everyone should have to answer to the judgement of some gang of people styling themselves priests just to be able to have an opinion or reaction to something without being utterly belittled for failing to understand something. And yes ultimately at the end of the day it really is just a TV show, just some people get so fanatical about certain things that they fail to remember that. I think it's entirely possible to be critical or praise something without having to try to force every single person to have to conform to or answer to you if they don't exactly parrot your reaction otherwise why even have a thread where the topic is popped in the first place. |
PeacingOutNov 25, 2014 9:40 AM
| I'm quite surprised at how mixed the responses are. |
| 1)Miyazaki's chars arent realistic in any way and 2)Wow, two priests are Madoka fans and defend the series, just like any other fan, and suddenly it is an issue with them again.But let's not talk at all about the obvious bait that didn't even explain themselves.Lets bash only the fans. I am amazed that you always manage to move the discussion in that direction. |
| 1)If you want people to read your posts then write them properly 2)From what I read this is just a copy paste of your old "opinion"+more swearing +CAps Lock. So yeah I dont care to read again and reply again to something several users and me, who you refers to as morons and dismiss their A LOT BETTER interpretation, replied to. |
| I love how you think you know all about me and other fans. No I wont.If you forget everything said for the nth time so you can go again and repost your Homura swearing posts IN EVERY SINGLE MADOKA thread that is about favs and love/hate then no I wont bother.There is no point,no real meaning in doing that. Unfortunately I remember all of you posts. Take it as your victory,as your opinion being a fact, I dont care really.But the way you ignore everyone and keep posting the same thing over and over again is irritatingly hilarious. |
FakePriest said: I just asked you to tell me what you yourself like about Homura, just a few sentences would suffice, but you can't even do that...Take it as your victory,as your opinion being a fact, I dont care really.But the way you ignore everyone and keep posting the same thing over and over again is irritatingly hilarious. So, I'll just take it as you agreeing with me that there is nothing to Homura aside from nice design, cool powers, and obsessiveness. Anyway, hopefully this thread turns into how Sayaka doesn't need hax god mode powers to be one awesome crazy bitch developed nice amazing girl, plus her lesbian girlfriend Kyoko is awesome as well. Btw, I just saw something horrible... How dare this Homura be in the presence of awesomeness itself Sayaka!? :(((((( |
KleferiNov 26, 2014 3:39 AM
| Yeah yeah I agree with you...Probably everyone else that isnt bothering with you as well.. |
| lolPsajdak |
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HeisenPriest said: Oh oh.Priest Alert.lolPsajdak |
| This thread took an entertaining turn. |
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| Homura has become worst. I don't want to defend her and I won't because what she did was selfish but I like that her character has become tainted and imperfect. She is still my favorite character. |
| Worse, why are people even thinking she has improved?? Her mental state has gone to complete shit. She pretty much turned into a witch. Still love her regardless though. |
| Homura's number one goal has always been saving Madoka. Rebellion just pushes that philosophy to it's logical conclusion when Homura's put through a terrible situation. |
| I could have sworn there was already a thread like this. Yes (your vote) She was awful. |
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| I don't see what's out of character for her. She's still protecting Madoka, as always. (Albeit in a twisted manner.) |
| Nope, she it's like in the tv series. |
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tsudecimo said: Yes Any OCCness on Homura part can easily explained. Homura in rebellion is not the same as she was at the end of the series. Because we know that Homura from the very start of the film is one of 3 things. 1. Shes already a witch, the film afterall from the very start takes place inisde her Labyrinth and no magical girl has been shown being able to create one (so technically she is homulilly) 2. She is a Magical Girl with a fully tainted soul gem 3. Shes some kind of MG witch hybrid It doesn't matter which one you think she is it doesn't really matter as all of them would have a huge impact on her character. Just look how Sayaka acts in the series with a tainted soul gem in episode 7 I think(and not even a fully tainted on either). The soul gem is literally shows the state of their soul, so it only makes sense that Homura with a fully tainted soul or Homulilly would take her obsession with protecting Madoka to the logical extreme. |
| People who think that she is OOC didnt pay attention in the tv series and ignored the movie because their waifu or just fav character became "evil". |
| No, she just became more twisted due to her SG's blackening. |
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| Threads merged |
| she's gone insane :3 but i will always love homura.. <3 <3 <3 |
| I think she's the same with a little more dispair tho, she still wanted to protect Madoka and she did. |
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| since we will probably never see a sequel, its hard for me to make a decision. Since I liked her character before pretty much there is no way she could go even further up or down. I really like these timeloop storys with characters who do everything they can to save someone (and fail at it multiple times.) because thats such a unique experience to make. (Still, time travel back, get some support from other girls from other citys and defeat walpurgisnacht. No super magical girl, no super witch. No god. Just what she wanted. But hey. she is a teenage girl with PTSD afterall. I can see over it) |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Interesting to note that Urobochi treats the TV Series and Movies as separate canons IIRC. While some may think otherwise, barring Rebellion, there's enough notable differences between the two to say that they're different canons. I guess for better or for worse, it's just up to the person as to which one is simply better executed as a story/character progression. |
| One point that makes this franchise even more like NGE. in a World where characters can creats new universes if they wish so its probably the best to imagine everything as canon and happening in an alternate timeline as well.. i really hope this wasnt the end for this franchise. There are just endless options to make more awesome stuff. btt I think its a little weird that homuras sg gets so tainted at all. In the world madoka created they are no witches so there should be no way for her sg to get into that state. I really hoped that we could see morr of this madoka world then just the end part of movie 2. I just cant think that madoka would abondom homura for this long. And that only miki and bebe became part of the godly power and she would really leave kyokou (i hope i get her name right) behind. But hey. I dont really mind at all. Homura became the opposite of madoka wich is necessary to balance the universe and only she could do this I think. Even if the universe dies madoka and homura will still be together (fighting). Yuri is strong. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
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