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Dec 21, 2013 5:49 AM
#41
egnaro315 said: hyperknees91 said: What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus? It shows that he needs to cure his narcolepsy It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs backs to the scene lol. He doesn't listen to him anyway in the VN. Yeah he fainted but that's going to be what makes him realize he needs to cure his narcolepsy. Basically he knows he has it in him to save them at this point, but he has that one problem he needs to take care of. |
Dec 21, 2013 5:50 AM
#42
Clannad: Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users) Ranked: #752 Popularity: #10 Little Busters Refrain: Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users) Ranked: #1852 Popularity: #1126 I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings. |
Dec 21, 2013 5:52 AM
#43
DeathyZA said: Clannad: Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users) Ranked: #752 Popularity: #10 Little Busters Refrain: Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users) Ranked: #1852 Popularity: #1126 I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings. DeathyZA, believe me, barely anyone I know was bothered by the ending, maybe 2 people at the most, when I know 20+ others that loved it as much as us. However, this shitty community needs a reason to criticize everything they watch, so they pick on the ending (which wasnt even bad IMO), they dont watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws, which is utterly stupid if you ask me. |
Dec 21, 2013 5:52 AM
#44
And I don't see a problem skipping it. Why is it a problem other than stroking VN players' ego anyway. |
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Dec 21, 2013 5:54 AM
#45
DeathyZA said: Clannad: Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users) Ranked: #752 Popularity: #10 Little Busters Refrain: Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users) Ranked: #1852 Popularity: #1126 I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings. Because it's lazy writing mainly. Obviously not everyone has a problem with that, but hey clannad could have pleased even more of it's watchers if it didn't have such a pathetic excuse for an ending. Though like you said, it doesn't bother everyone. We can argue about subjective stuff all we want, but it really comes down to if it personally bothers a person or not. Same with anything really. Therefore yeah it's kind of pointless to argue about. And like said even if I think it's a terrible ending, other people do indeed like it. So who am I to judge? Basically people need to chill out around here lawl. It's the same with you guys being overly critical with the adaption. Just enjoy it for what it is, and if you don't like it...well just read the VN. Very simple solution actually. |
Dec 21, 2013 5:59 AM
#46
Mod Edit: Extensive quote tower put in spoiler. masterfxx1 said: Seano299 said: Vladz0r said: Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point. Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for. Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline. I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if Nagisa and Ushio were saved on the spot. It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending. First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all- If you play through Episode: Kyousuke once again in the VN, he wishes that Riki and Rin would get strong enough to save everyone from the bus. The only reason he brushed it aside was because he didn't think they'd be able to get that strong. He didn't think his plan would be good enough to make the two that strong. But part of the True Ending is that whole idea of proving Kyousuke wrong. It was meant to be the ultimate proof of their growth. Also, concerning your whole idea of Clannad not being good enough if Nagisa and Ushio were saved on the spot, wasn't that the reason why the ending was so utterly shit? I mean, it was a huge deus ex machina. They ended on Ushio dying, which is a huge kick in the feels, then next ep 'Oh look, everyone's happy now'. I think the idea that J.C. were having at that point was 'We need to make this ending feel satisifying rather than a cop-out' which it certainly feels like with the normal end in tact. I'm not trying to say that J.C. made the entirely right choice here, but I see the logic. I'm more annoyed at the fact that Riki fell asleep right by the fucking bus and then Komari's goodbye got shortened. Well well, for someone who gave Clannad a 10, you have alot of stupid stuff to say about it. I do agree with you that Kyousuke´s plan was just to get the two idiots out of the artificial world, at the end of Refrain he even said: You´ve performed a miracle, even I couldnt have done that, you´ve surpassed me, etc So yeah, skipping the bad ending isnt a terrible decision if you ask me. DeathyZA said: Seano299 said: Vladz0r said: Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point. Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for. Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline. I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if Nagisa and Ushio were saved on the spot. It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending. First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all- If you play through Episode: Kyousuke once again in the VN, he wishes that Riki and Rin would get strong enough to save everyone from the bus. The only reason he brushed it aside was because he didn't think they'd be able to get that strong. He didn't think his plan would be good enough to make the two that strong. But part of the True Ending is that whole idea of proving Kyousuke wrong. It was meant to be the ultimate proof of their growth. Also, concerning your whole idea of Clannad not being good enough if Nagisa and Ushio were saved on the spot, wasn't that the reason why the ending was so utterly shit? I mean, it was a huge deus ex machina. They ended on Ushio dying, which is a huge kick in the feels, then next ep 'Oh look, everyone's happy now'. I think the idea that J.C. were having at that point was 'We need to make this ending feel satisifying rather than a cop-out' which it certainly feels like with the normal end in tact. I'm not trying to say that J.C. made the entirely right choice here, but I see the logic. I'm more annoyed at the fact that Riki fell asleep right by the fucking bus and then Komari's goodbye got shortened. Clannad had a deus ex machina ending, but you do not see it having such a low score? Look how popular Clannad was, who gives a FUCK about a deus ex machina ending. Barely anyone I know does. DeathyZA said: Seano299 said: Vladz0r said: Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point. Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for. Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline. I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if Nagisa and Ushio were saved on the spot. It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending. First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all- If you play through Episode: Kyousuke once again in the VN, he wishes that Riki and Rin would get strong enough to save everyone from the bus. The only reason he brushed it aside was because he didn't think they'd be able to get that strong. He didn't think his plan would be good enough to make the two that strong. But part of the True Ending is that whole idea of proving Kyousuke wrong. It was meant to be the ultimate proof of their growth. Also, concerning your whole idea of Clannad not being good enough if Nagisa and Ushio were saved on the spot, wasn't that the reason why the ending was so utterly shit? I mean, it was a huge deus ex machina. They ended on Ushio dying, which is a huge kick in the feels, then next ep 'Oh look, everyone's happy now'. I think the idea that J.C. were having at that point was 'We need to make this ending feel satisifying rather than a cop-out' which it certainly feels like with the normal end in tact. I'm not trying to say that J.C. made the entirely right choice here, but I see the logic. I'm more annoyed at the fact that Riki fell asleep right by the fucking bus and then Komari's goodbye got shortened. Clannad had a deus ex machina ending, but you do not see it having such a low score? Look how popular Clannad was, who gives a FUCK about a deus ex machina ending. Barely anyone I know does. Do you actually frequent many anime related forums other than this one? Don't you realise that there are hundreds of people who complain about Clannad's ending, myself included? The anime's ending was terrible. It lacks a decent explanation and comes out of nowhere. The only reason I didn't drop the score for the Clannad anime is my VN bias, which I'm trying not to keep with this adaptation. I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is. |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:00 AM
#47
hyperknees91 said: Basically people need to chill out around here lawl. It's the same with you guys being overly critical with the adaption. Just enjoy it for what it is, and if you don't like it...well just read the VN. Very simple solution actually. Pretty much what I think loool, the adaptation isnt horrible, its true they made a couple of bad decisions, etc, and the animation is obviously subpar, but if you don´t care about the animation (like I dont), and if you see LB for what its supposed to be, you can enjoy this adaptation to the fullest. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:00 AM
#48
masterfxx1 said: DeathyZA said: Clannad: I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings. DeathyZA, believe me, barely anyone I know was bothered by the ending, maybe 2 people at the most, when I know 20+ others that loved it as much as us. However, this shitty community needs a reason to criticize everything they watch, so they pick on the ending (which wasnt even bad IMO), they dont watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws, which is utterly stupid if you ask me. "They don't watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws." Exactly what you VN players are doing. ;) You VN players are so entertaining. LOL. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:02 AM
#49
fauzty said: masterfxx1 said: DeathyZA said: Clannad: I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings. DeathyZA, believe me, barely anyone I know was bothered by the ending, maybe 2 people at the most, when I know 20+ others that loved it as much as us. However, this shitty community needs a reason to criticize everything they watch, so they pick on the ending (which wasnt even bad IMO), they dont watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws, which is utterly stupid if you ask me. "They don't watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws." Exactly what you VN players are doing. You VN players are so entertaining. LOL. When did I badmouth this adaptation? I dont remember doing it as far as I remembered. I always said it was "decent", and I enjoyed Kengo and Kyousuke´s episode alot. Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:04 AM
#50
egnaro315 said: hyperknees91 said: What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus? It shows that he needs to cure his narcolepsy It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol. I don't think the whole 'Not listening to Kyousuke' thing doesn't matter much, because he does that in the true ending anyway. But Riki falling asleep by the bus that's just about to explode is dumb. Unless J.C. can explain that in some way next episode, I'm gonna be pretty pissed. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:05 AM
#51
Seano299 said: egnaro315 said: hyperknees91 said: What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus? It shows that he needs to cure his narcolepsy It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol. I don't think the whole 'Not listening to Kyousuke' thing doesn't matter much, because he does that in the true ending anyway. But Riki falling asleep by the bus that's just about to explode is dumb. Unless J.C. can explain that in some way next episode, I'm gonna be pretty pissed. What. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that when you have narcolepsy you don't CHOOSE to fall asleep. |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:05 AM
#52
Seano299 said: egnaro315 said: hyperknees91 said: What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus? It shows that he needs to cure his narcolepsy It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol. I don't think the whole 'Not listening to Kyousuke' thing doesn't matter much, because he does that in the true ending anyway. But Riki falling asleep by the bus that's just about to explode is dumb. Unless J.C. can explain that in some way next episode, I'm gonna be pretty pissed. Of course not. I'm just saying some aovs might interpret it this way since they don't know he actually cures his narcolepsy |
Dec 21, 2013 6:06 AM
#53
egnaro315 said: Seano299 said: egnaro315 said: hyperknees91 said: What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus? It shows that he needs to cure his narcolepsy It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol. I don't think the whole 'Not listening to Kyousuke' thing doesn't matter much, because he does that in the true ending anyway. But Riki falling asleep by the bus that's just about to explode is dumb. Unless J.C. can explain that in some way next episode, I'm gonna be pretty pissed. Of course not. I'm just saying some aovs might interpret it this way since they don't know he actually cures his narcolepsy True. But that's what next episode is meant to estabilish. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:06 AM
#54
Well yeah, that's true but next week they'll get their answer. So it's alright. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:10 AM
#55
What’s with the mess JC STAFF? I mean, I mean.... I mean this scene... one of the most important scene in Refrain... Got even less budget than almost all the scenes of the Kurugaya route, with a budget of that of around episode 4-5 in season 2. What the hell? Why? How? You can at least put some wind and the scene, and make the storyboards reflect the CGs right? I mean the godly impact from the two CGs in that scenes that burnt the whole image into my mind that I can't forget it for the rest of my life, is ruined in the anime. Well... it is just that... even if JC did ruin the anime, it didn't ruin the game. I will just read that scene over in the VN for a few times before I sleep Orz |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:11 AM
#56
xMaebaraK1x said: What’s with the mess JC STAFF? I mean, I mean.... I mean this scene... one of the most important scene in Refrain... Got even less budget than almost all the scenes of the Kurugaya route, with a budget of that of around episode 4-5 in season 2. What the hell? Why? How? You can at least put some wind and the scene, and make the storyboards reflect the CGs right? I mean the godly impact from the two CGs in that scenes that burnt the whole image into my mind that I can't forget it for the rest of my life, is ruined in the anime. Well... it is just that... even if JC did ruin the anime, it didn't ruin the game. I will just read that scene over in the VN for a few times before I sleep Orz The budget seemed pretty high this episode actually. Am I the only one who noticed this? |
Dec 21, 2013 6:15 AM
#57
masterfxx1 said: Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation. Not a lot of people hate this adaptation, myself included O__O It's good enough for me, at least. Seano299 said: I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is. Well said. Also, I think we should bring this entire discussion over to the vn topic. Inb4 anime only viewers complaining about this topic. (It's completely justified in my opinion though) |
Dec 21, 2013 6:15 AM
#58
Seano299 said: xMaebaraK1x said: What’s with the mess JC STAFF? I mean, I mean.... I mean this scene... one of the most important scene in Refrain... Got even less budget than almost all the scenes of the Kurugaya route, with a budget of that of around episode 4-5 in season 2. What the hell? Why? How? You can at least put some wind and the scene, and make the storyboards reflect the CGs right? I mean the godly impact from the two CGs in that scenes that burnt the whole image into my mind that I can't forget it for the rest of my life, is ruined in the anime. Well... it is just that... even if JC did ruin the anime, it didn't ruin the game. I will just read that scene over in the VN for a few times before I sleep Orz The budget seemed pretty high this episode actually. Am I the only one who noticed this? On the first half, not on the most important scene in this episode D: The crying, they used hugging instead of that CG somehow, and only made the mouth-flap animations. I won't say that it is high budget Orz I've got very high expectation for this scene alone, so, with just simple and basic animations there, I am really disappointed. I hope the AoV love the episode though if they do not have the chance to read the VN. |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:19 AM
#59
I got really hyped because of next episode and now I'm totally disappointed. I problably expected too much from this episode, but eh..ok. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:21 AM
#60
FankaAnime said: I got really hyped because of next episode and now I'm totally disappointed. I problably expected too much from this episode, but eh..ok. Yeah, I should say that I expected too much. The directing and storyboard just returned to the level around the first season, so lol |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:21 AM
#61
dizzyworld2 said: masterfxx1 said: Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation. Not a lot of people hate this adaptation, myself included O__O It's good enough for me, at least. Seano299 said: I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is. Well said. Also, I think we should bring this entire discussion over to the vn topic. Inb4 anime only viewers complaining about this topic. (It's completely justified in my opinion though) I know alot of people find this adaptation decent/good, but there are those VN readers who like to bitch about it in every single thread and say its bad, etc. I was refering to those VN readers, |
Dec 21, 2013 6:24 AM
#62
Hey I like it. The komari scene was especially better due to them having a proper friendship in the anime adaption. I literally felt 0 emotion from that scene in the VN because of that. However here I felt genuinely sad. I feel like the people here have never read a VN then watched an adaption of it before. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:24 AM
#63
masterfxx1 said: dizzyworld2 said: masterfxx1 said: Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation. Not a lot of people hate this adaptation, myself included O__O It's good enough for me, at least. Seano299 said: I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is. Well said. Also, I think we should bring this entire discussion over to the vn topic. Inb4 anime only viewers complaining about this topic. (It's completely justified in my opinion though) I know alot of people find this adaptation decent/good, but there are those VN readers who like to bitch about it in every single thread and say its bad, etc. I was refering to those VN readers, tbh, this is the 1st time im actually complaining about an episode of Refrain (apart from the Rin route). I tend to be quiet and bitch to myself about these things! LOL but now I just had to come out and say my rant. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:25 AM
#64
I was overall very satisfied with the episode, specially with the Rin and Komari scene wich was my favorite in the vn. Now there is just 1 episode left. Time flies, doesn´t it? DeathyZA said: Clannad: Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users) Ranked: #752 Popularity: #10 Little Busters Refrain: Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users) Ranked: #1852 Popularity: #1126 I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings. Well, you talk like if the ending was everything that makes a show good. The series already had a lot of things that people love: A pairing, character development, interesting routes, dramatic scenes, cute scenes, good animation, etc. So the fact that the ending was good or not It was never going to change people opinion about the show. IMO I think clannad is a pretty normal vn. Specially the after story route which dissapointed me a lot. |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:26 AM
#65
hyperknees91 said: Hey I like it. The komari scene was especially better due to them having a proper friendship in the anime adaption. I literally felt 0 emotion from that scene in the VN because of that. However here I felt genuinely sad. I feel like the people here have never read a VN then watched an adaption of it before. Pretty much, I cant blame them, since I felt the same when I saw Danganronpa´s anime after reading the VN and liking it so much, but one has to realize that VNs are different than anime, and an anime adaptation can never cover the same stuff the VN did, the VN has alot more freedom to do so. The anime can, however, make some stuff better, for example the Komari/Rin friendship was better portrayed in the anime. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:36 AM
#66
Well, Im going to stop ranting, Gotta just believe JC Staff does a really good job on the last episode. I want this Season to end nicely. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:37 AM
#67
I haven't seen the Dangan Ronpa adaption so I can't give my opinion on that. My guess is it's not as immersive because your not exploring and solving mysteries on your own (and probably is paced too fast). You know what was a funny adaption. Shuffle. What was a funnier adaption...School days. Actually school days is the best adaption I've ever seen for being 300% more entertaining than the source material. But yeah it's funny that I hear alot of people after they play the Steins;Gate VN, they think the anime is crap (I disagree). Guess that's just happening to a superb effect here. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:38 AM
#68
I am just going to imagine that it was very satisfying for me *Komari* Let me just pretend that nothing happened! *Komari* This way, everything can be resolved! *Komari* That was all a dream :D Done. *Stop ranting* Well, what will be in the next episode? I don't know how will they arrange it now... since they have modified a lot in this one. |
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Dec 21, 2013 6:40 AM
#69
hyperknees91 said: I haven't seen the Dangan Ronpa adaption so I can't give my opinion on that. My guess is it's not as immersive because your not exploring and solving mysteries on your own (and probably is paced too fast). You know what was a funny adaption. Shuffle. What was a funnier adaption...School days. Actually school days is the best adaption I've ever seen for being 300% more entertaining than the source material. The danganronpa anime rushed through the investigation parts, and the characters werent as well portrayed as the VN ones, however, the trials were pretty good, ad even though it was rushed beyond belief, I would go as far as to call it "decent". School days... I never played the VN, but I heard they ended the anime with the bad ending of the VN, when they had several others to choose from? |
Dec 21, 2013 6:47 AM
#70
masterfxx1 said: hyperknees91 said: I haven't seen the Dangan Ronpa adaption so I can't give my opinion on that. My guess is it's not as immersive because your not exploring and solving mysteries on your own (and probably is paced too fast). You know what was a funny adaption. Shuffle. What was a funnier adaption...School days. Actually school days is the best adaption I've ever seen for being 300% more entertaining than the source material. The danganronpa anime rushed through the investigation parts, and the characters werent as well portrayed as the VN ones, however, the trials were pretty good, ad even though it was rushed beyond belief, I would go as far as to call it "decent". School days... I never played the VN, but I heard they ended the anime with the bad ending of the VN, when they had several others to choose from? Nah they made up an ending. It's basically a combination of 3 of the bad endings. It worked to superb effect as I doubt School days would have been given the time of day otherwise. It's literally a series you watch for its ending. The game is just dumb, like super super dumb. You thought the anime was dumb, the game is even dumber. Not even in an entertaining way because it drags out too long and it doesn't have as an entertaining a finish in any of the endings. |
Dec 21, 2013 6:50 AM
#71
hyperknees91 said: masterfxx1 said: hyperknees91 said: I haven't seen the Dangan Ronpa adaption so I can't give my opinion on that. My guess is it's not as immersive because your not exploring and solving mysteries on your own (and probably is paced too fast). You know what was a funny adaption. Shuffle. What was a funnier adaption...School days. Actually school days is the best adaption I've ever seen for being 300% more entertaining than the source material. The danganronpa anime rushed through the investigation parts, and the characters werent as well portrayed as the VN ones, however, the trials were pretty good, ad even though it was rushed beyond belief, I would go as far as to call it "decent". School days... I never played the VN, but I heard they ended the anime with the bad ending of the VN, when they had several others to choose from? Nah they made up an ending. It's basically a combination of 3 of the bad endings. It worked to superb effect as I doubt School days would have been given the time of day otherwise. It's literally a series you watch for its ending. The game is just dumb, like super super dumb. You thought the anime was dumb, the game is even dumber. Not even in an entertaining way because it drags out too long and it doesn't have as an entertaining a finish in any of the endings. Even worse than the anime? Thats quite a scary thought o_O I mean, as far as the anime went, the ending was the best thing there, since Makoto got what he deserved, but that didnt made up for the rest of the series. I guess thats one VN I´ll never play >< |
Dec 21, 2013 6:53 AM
#72
Nah it's crap. Unless you enjoy a game about people being super dumb all the time. Though we are getting off-topic so I guess we should PM if you want more chat on it. |
Dec 21, 2013 7:04 AM
#73
Komari scene was dramatically shorter (I could instantly tell when they didn't play the full version of the music), which...isn't BAD I suppose. It was still okay, but I really like the VN one MUCH more. Komari sorta disappeared a bit too abruptly. As for the lack of hospital end, definitely a bold decision on the part of JC storywriters. I remember after Komari's farewell, the "everyone is dead" hospital scene left a massive impact on me (like, WTF, hair-pulling level). At that point it didn't even occur to me there would be a happy ending at all. In other words, it was fucking AMAZING. Losing that in the anime...definitely a bad move in my opinion HOWEVER, I do actually see some circumstances that do warrant skipping straight to the true end: 1. Plot-wise, skipping to the true end sorta makes sense. Riki's been through enough shit in the repeats, he's supposed to be strong enough by now. Is it strange that Riki and Rin can save them at this point? Not really, no. Furthermore, Riki and Rin forming a new world hours after the accident in some sterile hospital room never really made much sense. It seems much easier to understand if they were able to create the world immediately after the incident. 2. It's an anime. That means there are 13 episodes, a fact many people know. The hospital end's impact relies on the audience believing that it is the real ending (like I did). Knowing that there is one more episode immediately tells the anime audience that the hospital end is not the true end. Therefore, it's effect is drastically diminished. So yeah. VN hospital end was great, and I would've really liked it, but there are reasons why skipping straight to the true end also works. Simplified version: Errrr...from an anime perspective this was good. |
SleepingEntityDec 21, 2013 7:10 AM
Dec 21, 2013 7:13 AM
#74
VERY bold move of JC Staff. Ima say that I liked the episode but also hated it. but god damnit, did no one else notice how bad the cg bus looked? |
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Dec 21, 2013 7:20 AM
#75
Funya-Usagi said: VERY bold move of JC Staff. Ima say that I liked the episode but also hated it. but god damnit, did no one else notice how bad the cg bus looked? I have no idea why they didn't just animate it normally. It looked awful. |
Dec 21, 2013 7:24 AM
#76
Haven't watched the episode yet, so might as well make a prediction. I will like what I see. |
Dec 21, 2013 7:34 AM
#77
I was waiting for the bus to explode too... Unfortunately it never happened, but |
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Dec 21, 2013 7:51 AM
#78
Dec 21, 2013 7:51 AM
#79
MCAL said: Haven't watched the episode yet, so might as well make a prediction. I will like what I see. You will love what you see. Knowing you that is (based on your past reaction). The decisions made in this episode are brilliant. The girls scene is soooooo much better. Rin is like 300x better in this adaption with this episode. It's like night and day. Really enjoyed this adaption for what it's worth. I think I highly prefer it to the VN just because it invoked so much more emotion from me (plus the characters were just plain better). Can't wait for next week. |
Dec 21, 2013 7:57 AM
#80
Agh, watching the episode again with subs, it aint that bad of a episode, got teary in the girls farewell scene, Komari scene was to short tho. I love how they end the episode with that happy ending song though :D |
Dec 21, 2013 7:59 AM
#81
Well what do you know. I loved it. Anyway... This is where all that improvement to Rin and her relationships with the girls from the VN to anime pay off. And the seeming changes from the VN (Have to wait until next episode to see) have eliminated the deus ex machina feel of the ending too. Though it will still feel a little cheap. EDIT: Oh and they actually showed the bus crash. Needless to say that freaked me out. |
MCALDec 21, 2013 8:17 AM
Dec 21, 2013 8:01 AM
#82
DeathyZA said: Agh, watching the episode again with subs, it aint that bad of a episode, got teary in the girls farewell scene, Komari scene was to short tho. I love how they end the episode with that happy ending song though :D So you finally enjoyed it ? Still have to wait before watching. |
Dec 21, 2013 8:03 AM
#83
Ol-Hybrius said: DeathyZA said: Agh, watching the episode again with subs, it aint that bad of a episode, got teary in the girls farewell scene, Komari scene was to short tho. I love how they end the episode with that happy ending song though :D So you finally enjoyed it ? Still have to wait before watching. It was enjoyable to say the least, Loved them showing us how the accident happened and how kengo/masato saved riki and Rin, those 2 are my real heroes :D. Rins constant crying in this episode also got me teary, since she never cried before in the anime, Sad to see my Rin crying :c. Farewells were good, tho Komari was abit to short and her sudden disappearance wasnt good. Though ill +1 my score to 7/10 atm. But would've preferred it if there was an explosion and the hospital scene. But meh, its JC Staff we talking about here. |
Dec 21, 2013 8:05 AM
#84
Dec 21, 2013 8:05 AM
#85
DeathyZA said: Yeah, especially with Rin looking for something she lost, which is pretty much the title of the ED.I love how they end the episode with that happy ending song though :D |
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Dec 21, 2013 8:06 AM
#86
Watch the sub here: http://www.nwanime.com/little-busters-refrain-episode-12/video/e85921c6f41939754094/ Omg MY FEELS HAVE REACHED THEIR CLIMAX!! All the tears made me cry even more :( JC Staff r such sadists for putting the in the original refrain ending at the end where everyone dies..it's like what happened during nagisa's death |
Dec 21, 2013 8:07 AM
#87
BladesOfTime said: Cause the driver was a shithead. And no one likes shitheads.Why is everyone asking who is the driver XD |
Dec 21, 2013 8:09 AM
#88
epic_joelle said: BladesOfTime said: Cause the driver was a shithead. And no one likes shitheads.Why is everyone asking who is the driver XD I don't think it was the drivers fault, I remember when riki remember the accident, Another car swerved into them, making the bus lose control. Its actually pretty hard to control a bus after getting hit by another car with full impact. |
Dec 21, 2013 8:09 AM
#89
As someone who hasn't read the VN, I'm like rocking back and forth on my knees in a corner now waiting for the newest episode. The feels were so horrible for me, especially when I saw all of them on the bus before the accident. I don't know why, the thought of reality's course got me. Was almost screaming "Stop the flashbacks and save them! Now Now Now Now!" But I can't do that due to me annoying roommates. Gaaah..... I have to wait another week to see how it ends, cause I'm not looking up the VN's ending. Poor Masato, Kyousuke, Kengo, Mio, Haruka, Komari, Kud, and Kurugaya. ; - ; |
Dec 21, 2013 8:09 AM
#90
That feels trip... Rin was really cute this episode. 1 more to go! |
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