Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 12 Discussion

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You mean they didn't do the deus ex machina ending?

Thank friggin god that was the stupidest part of the game. Now I'm...actually going to be really ok with the ending. Plus it makes no sense in the anime adaption due to the power "waning" in the other world.

Also thank you for

It's just too early in their relationship for that to be believable to most anime viewers.

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VN endings spoilers

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Not sure how that's a problem here, as from what's described that's exactly what happen. Fan-service ending or not, that was the canon ending in the VN.

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After hearing what you guys just said I am thinking whether to watch the episode all not lol
The scene I treasured the most in the whole VN is the KomaRin parting and I don't want the anime to ruin it for me :/

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Dec 21, 2013 5:16 AM

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xMaebaraK1x said:
After hearing what you guys just said I am thinking whether to watch the episode all not lol
The scene I treasured the most in the whole VN is the KomaRin parting and I don't want the anime to ruin it for me :/

That scene was alright. I didn't like how they cut off the chorus to One Magic World though unless I missed it.

Dec 21, 2013 5:23 AM

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LB/Clannad spoilers~

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Ok. Did they just forgo Kyousuke's plan and made Riki go back to the bus? Looks like Kyousuke's plan failed lol.
Kyousuke's plan was to strengthen Riki and prevent himi from staying around the bus and die, which he did.

At least I generally liked the farewells (the 2nd half).

Dec 21, 2013 5:35 AM

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Well, that's where the themes of "becoming stronger" conflict with the actual story intentions.
You can dispute that this story works thematically all you want, but now it's less emotional, and now everything the dream world has ever stood for is turned to melodrama in retrospect, unless they have a way to show that Riki and Rin weren't strong enough to save everyone.

Dec 21, 2013 5:39 AM

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Well that's just how key handles things. I mean...it's not any different then the VN. What it does is still a cop out, but at least its a thematic cop out. I mean this has been the same since Air, Kanon and Clannad all cop out in the same fashion. It's just what jun maeda does.

Yes its less emotional hence why I wasn't pleased with the ending in the VN at first. But then I more understood it's purpose in the grand scheme of things and it actually was kind of cool.

I think this is why Romeo wrote Rewrite the way he did. He didn't want to rely on any "key" magic methods to solve anything.

Dec 21, 2013 5:40 AM

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Vladz0r said:
Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point.
Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for.

Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline.

I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if

It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending.

First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all-

Dec 21, 2013 5:43 AM

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Seano299 said:

Vladz0r said:
Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point.
Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for.

Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline.

I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending.

I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if

It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending.

First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all-

Well well, for someone who gave Clannad a 10, you have alot of stupid stuff to say about it. I do agree with you that Kyousuke´s plan was just to get the two idiots out of the artificial world, at the end of Refrain he even said:

So yeah, skipping the bad ending isnt a terrible decision if you ask me.

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Dec 21, 2013 5:43 AM

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What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

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Seano299 said:

Vladz0r said:
Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point.
Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for.

Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline.

I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if

It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending.

First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all-

Clannad had a deus ex machina ending, but you do not see it having such a low score? Look how popular Clannad was, who gives a FUCK about a deus ex machina ending. Barely anyone I know does.

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Seano299 said:

You summarized what made me wtf the most very well.

Dec 21, 2013 5:46 AM

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Yeah, just finished watching.
My thought:

Fuck you JC Staff.
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hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol.

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Liked the episode. Must agree with hyperknees91 and Seano299 on the "Deus Ex Machina" part. Rin is my favourite girl in LB, and i wanted to see the proposal scene, but I'm not dissapointed with the changes. Actually, I thought they will do something like that from the start :)

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egnaro315 said:

hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs backs to the scene lol.

And figures he needs to fix his narcolepsy before he can rescue them.
I see no problem? And it's not like he can choose when to fall asleep anyway.

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egnaro315 said:

hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs backs to the scene lol.

Dec 21, 2013 5:50 AM

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Clannad:
Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users)
Ranked: #752
Popularity: #10

Little Busters Refrain:
Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users)
Ranked: #1852
Popularity: #1126

I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings.

Dec 21, 2013 5:52 AM

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DeathyZA said:
Clannad:
Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users)
Ranked: #752
Popularity: #10

Little Busters Refrain:
Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users)
Ranked: #1852
Popularity: #1126

I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings.

DeathyZA, believe me, barely anyone I know was bothered by the ending, maybe 2 people at the most, when I know 20+ others that loved it as much as us. However, this shitty community needs a reason to criticize everything they watch, so they pick on the ending (which wasnt even bad IMO), they dont watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws, which is utterly stupid if you ask me.

Dec 21, 2013 5:52 AM

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And I don't see a problem skipping it. Why is it a problem other than stroking VN players' ego anyway.

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Dec 21, 2013 5:54 AM

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DeathyZA said:
Clannad:
Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users)
Ranked: #752
Popularity: #10

Little Busters Refrain:
Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users)
Ranked: #1852
Popularity: #1126

I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings.

Because it's lazy writing mainly. Obviously not everyone has a problem with that, but hey clannad could have pleased even more of it's watchers if it didn't have such a pathetic excuse for an ending.

Though like you said, it doesn't bother everyone. We can argue about subjective stuff all we want, but it really comes down to if it personally bothers a person or not. Same with anything really.

Therefore yeah it's kind of pointless to argue about. And like said even if I think it's a terrible ending, other people do indeed like it. So who am I to judge?

Basically people need to chill out around here lawl. It's the same with you guys being overly critical with the adaption. Just enjoy it for what it is, and if you don't like it...well just read the VN. Very simple solution actually.

Dec 21, 2013 5:59 AM

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masterfxx1 said:

Seano299 said:

Vladz0r said:
Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point.
Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for.

Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline.

I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if

It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending.

First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all-

Well well, for someone who gave Clannad a 10, you have alot of stupid stuff to say about it. I do agree with you that Kyousuke´s plan was just to get the two idiots out of the artificial world, at the end of Refrain he even said:

So yeah, skipping the bad ending isnt a terrible decision if you ask me.

DeathyZA said:

Seano299 said:

Vladz0r said:
Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point.
Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for.

Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline.

I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if

It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending.

First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all-

Clannad had a deus ex machina ending, but you do not see it having such a low score? Look how popular Clannad was, who gives a FUCK about a deus ex machina ending. Barely anyone I know does.

DeathyZA said:

Seano299 said:

Vladz0r said:
Except that the themes of "becoming stronger" leading up to Riki and Rin being able to save them on the first attempt wasn't the point.
Kyousuke's intention was for Riki and Rin to become strong enough to live without the Little Busters. That was what made Little Busters, the dream world, and everyone's love and emotions was intended for.

Now, the dream world was a place for Riki and Rin to get strong enough to save them. There's less plot hole asspulling, but it's a different story direction than the original because now there's one timeline.

I mean, we still get the turnaround with Riki and Rin subverting Kyousuke's plan and intentions, but now there's just one happy ending. I can't imagine how weak Clannad would've been if

It would be hard to say that I don't feel left out, now, having already anticipated the original ending.

First of all, spoiler tag all of this shit, because anime-only peeps will be pissed. Second of all-

Clannad had a deus ex machina ending, but you do not see it having such a low score? Look how popular Clannad was, who gives a FUCK about a deus ex machina ending. Barely anyone I know does.

Do you actually frequent many anime related forums other than this one? Don't you realise that there are hundreds of people who complain about Clannad's ending, myself included? The anime's ending was terrible. It lacks a decent explanation and comes out of nowhere. The only reason I didn't drop the score for the Clannad anime is my VN bias, which I'm trying not to keep with this adaptation. I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is.

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Basically people need to chill out around here lawl. It's the same with you guys being overly critical with the adaption. Just enjoy it for what it is, and if you don't like it...well just read the VN. Very simple solution actually.

Pretty much what I think loool, the adaptation isnt horrible, its true they made a couple of bad decisions, etc, and the animation is obviously subpar, but if you don´t care about the animation (like I dont), and if you see LB for what its supposed to be, you can enjoy this adaptation to the fullest.

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masterfxx1 said:

DeathyZA said:
Clannad:
I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings.

DeathyZA, believe me, barely anyone I know was bothered by the ending, maybe 2 people at the most, when I know 20+ others that loved it as much as us. However, this shitty community needs a reason to criticize everything they watch, so they pick on the ending (which wasnt even bad IMO), they dont watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws, which is utterly stupid if you ask me.

"They don't watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws."

Exactly what you VN players are doing. ;) You VN players are so entertaining. LOL.

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fauzty said:

masterfxx1 said:

DeathyZA said:
Clannad:
I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings.

DeathyZA, believe me, barely anyone I know was bothered by the ending, maybe 2 people at the most, when I know 20+ others that loved it as much as us. However, this shitty community needs a reason to criticize everything they watch, so they pick on the ending (which wasnt even bad IMO), they dont watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws, which is utterly stupid if you ask me.

"They don't watch anime to enjoy themselves, they watch anime to find flaws."

Exactly what you VN players are doing. You VN players are so entertaining. LOL.

When did I badmouth this adaptation? I dont remember doing it as far as I remembered. I always said it was "decent", and I enjoyed Kengo and Kyousuke´s episode alot. Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation.

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egnaro315 said:

hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol.

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Seano299 said:

egnaro315 said:

hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol.

What.
I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that when you have narcolepsy you don't CHOOSE to fall asleep.

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Seano299 said:

egnaro315 said:

hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol.

Of course not. I'm just saying some aovs might interpret it this way since

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egnaro315 said:

Seano299 said:

egnaro315 said:

hyperknees91 said:
What's the problem with Riki falling asleep right by the bus?

It shows us that he didn't listen to Kyousuke when he was told " You can't save us, You and Rin must survive". If the bus explodes right there, all of the LB! sacrifices would be in vain especially Kyousuke's since he is buying time for them by blocking the gasoline leak with his body and Riki just runs back to the scene and falls asleep lol.

Of course not. I'm just saying some aovs might interpret it this way since

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Well yeah, that's true but next week they'll get their answer. So it's alright.

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Ｗｈａｔ’ｓ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｔｈｅ　ｍｅｓｓ　ＪＣ　ＳＴＡＦＦ？
I mean, I mean.... I mean this scene... one of the most important scene in Refrain...
Got even less budget than almost all the scenes of the Kurugaya route, with a budget of that of around episode 4-5 in season 2.
What the hell? Why? How?
You can at least put some wind and the scene, and make the storyboards reflect the CGs right? I mean the godly impact from the two CGs in that scenes that burnt the whole image into my mind that I can't forget it for the rest of my life, is ruined in the anime.

Well... it is just that...
even if JC did ruin the anime,
it didn't ruin the game.
I will just read that scene over in the VN for a few times before I sleep Orz

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Ｗｈａｔ’ｓ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｔｈｅ　ｍｅｓｓ　ＪＣ　ＳＴＡＦＦ？
I mean, I mean.... I mean this scene... one of the most important scene in Refrain...
Got even less budget than almost all the scenes of the Kurugaya route, with a budget of that of around episode 4-5 in season 2.
What the hell? Why? How?
You can at least put some wind and the scene, and make the storyboards reflect the CGs right? I mean the godly impact from the two CGs in that scenes that burnt the whole image into my mind that I can't forget it for the rest of my life, is ruined in the anime.

Well... it is just that...
even if JC did ruin the anime,
it didn't ruin the game.
I will just read that scene over in the VN for a few times before I sleep Orz

The budget seemed pretty high this episode actually. Am I the only one who noticed this?

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masterfxx1 said:
Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation.

Not a lot of people hate this adaptation, myself included O__O It's good enough for me, at least.

Seano299 said:
I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is.

Well said.

Also, I think we should bring this entire discussion over to the vn topic. Inb4 anime only viewers complaining about this topic. (It's completely justified in my opinion though)

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Seano299 said:

xMaebaraK1x said:
Ｗｈａｔ’ｓ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｔｈｅ　ｍｅｓｓ　ＪＣ　ＳＴＡＦＦ？
I mean, I mean.... I mean this scene... one of the most important scene in Refrain...
Got even less budget than almost all the scenes of the Kurugaya route, with a budget of that of around episode 4-5 in season 2.
What the hell? Why? How?
You can at least put some wind and the scene, and make the storyboards reflect the CGs right? I mean the godly impact from the two CGs in that scenes that burnt the whole image into my mind that I can't forget it for the rest of my life, is ruined in the anime.

Well... it is just that...
even if JC did ruin the anime,
it didn't ruin the game.
I will just read that scene over in the VN for a few times before I sleep Orz

The budget seemed pretty high this episode actually. Am I the only one who noticed this?

On the first half, not on the most important scene in this episode D:
The crying, they used hugging instead of that CG somehow, and only made the mouth-flap animations. I won't say that it is high budget Orz

I've got very high expectation for this scene alone, so, with just simple and basic animations there, I am really disappointed.

I hope the AoV love the episode though if they do not have the chance to read the VN.

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I got really hyped because of next episode and now I'm totally disappointed.
I problably expected too much from this episode, but eh..ok.

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I got really hyped because of next episode and now I'm totally disappointed.
I problably expected too much from this episode, but eh..ok.

Yeah, I should say that I expected too much.

The directing and storyboard just returned to the level around the first season, so lol

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dizzyworld2 said:

masterfxx1 said:
Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation.

Not a lot of people hate this adaptation, myself included O__O It's good enough for me, at least.

Seano299 said:
I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is.

Well said.

Also, I think we should bring this entire discussion over to the vn topic. Inb4 anime only viewers complaining about this topic. (It's completely justified in my opinion though)

I know alot of people find this adaptation decent/good, but there are those VN readers who like to bitch about it in every single thread and say its bad, etc. I was refering to those VN readers,

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Hey I like it. The komari scene was especially better due to them having a proper friendship in the anime adaption. I literally felt 0 emotion from that scene in the VN because of that. However here I felt genuinely sad.

I feel like the people here have never read a VN then watched an adaption of it before.

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masterfxx1 said:

dizzyworld2 said:

masterfxx1 said:
Please don´t compare me to those VN readers that hate the adaptation.

Not a lot of people hate this adaptation, myself included O__O It's good enough for me, at least.

Seano299 said:
I don't think that a VN bias should get in the way of the adaptations score. It's for this reason I think that some of the VN players are giving this a low score just because it wasn't like the VN. Rate it as an anime, because that's what anime-only viewers looking for a good anime will want to know. Not how decent of an actual adaptation it is.

Well said.

Also, I think we should bring this entire discussion over to the vn topic. Inb4 anime only viewers complaining about this topic. (It's completely justified in my opinion though)

I know alot of people find this adaptation decent/good, but there are those VN readers who like to bitch about it in every single thread and say its bad, etc. I was refering to those VN readers,

tbh, this is the 1st time im actually complaining about an episode of Refrain (apart from the Rin route). I tend to be quiet and bitch to myself about these things! LOL but now I just had to come out and say my rant.

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I was overall very satisfied with the episode, specially with the Rin and Komari scene wich was my favorite in the vn.
Now there is just 1 episode left. Time flies, doesn´t it?

DeathyZA said:
Clannad:
Score: 8.541 (scored by 157707 users)
Ranked: #752
Popularity: #10

Little Busters Refrain:
Score: 8.321 (scored by 4304 users)
Ranked: #1852
Popularity: #1126

I don't see a problem with a "dues ex Machina" Ending, If ppl hated it, then why would Clannad be so popular when they had one of those endings.

Well, you talk like if the ending was everything that makes a show good. The series already had a lot of things that people love: A pairing, character development, interesting routes, dramatic scenes, cute scenes, good animation, etc. So the fact that the ending was good or not It was never going to change people opinion about the show.
IMO I think clannad is a pretty normal vn. Specially the after story route which dissapointed me a lot.

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Dec 21, 2013 6:26 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
Hey I like it. The komari scene was especially better due to them having a proper friendship in the anime adaption. I literally felt 0 emotion from that scene in the VN because of that. However here I felt genuinely sad.

I feel like the people here have never read a VN then watched an adaption of it before.

Pretty much, I cant blame them, since I felt the same when I saw Danganronpa´s anime after reading the VN and liking it so much, but one has to realize that VNs are different than anime, and an anime adaptation can never cover the same stuff the VN did, the VN has alot more freedom to do so. The anime can, however, make some stuff better, for example the Komari/Rin friendship was better portrayed in the anime.

Dec 21, 2013 6:36 AM

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Well, Im going to stop ranting, Gotta just believe JC Staff does a really good job on the last episode.

I want this Season to end nicely.

Dec 21, 2013 6:37 AM

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I haven't seen the Dangan Ronpa adaption so I can't give my opinion on that. My guess is it's not as immersive because your not exploring and solving mysteries on your own (and probably is paced too fast).

You know what was a funny adaption. Shuffle. What was a funnier adaption...School days. Actually school days is the best adaption I've ever seen for being 300% more entertaining than the source material.

But yeah it's funny that I hear alot of people after they play the Steins;Gate VN, they think the anime is crap (I disagree). Guess that's just happening to a superb effect here.

Dec 21, 2013 6:38 AM

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I am just going to imagine that it was very satisfying for me
*Komari* Let me just pretend that nothing happened!
*Komari* This way, everything can be resolved!
*Komari* That was all a dream :D

Done.

*Stop ranting*

Well, what will be in the next episode?
I don't know how will they arrange it now... since they have modified a lot in this one.

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Dec 21, 2013 6:40 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
I haven't seen the Dangan Ronpa adaption so I can't give my opinion on that. My guess is it's not as immersive because your not exploring and solving mysteries on your own (and probably is paced too fast).

You know what was a funny adaption. Shuffle. What was a funnier adaption...School days. Actually school days is the best adaption I've ever seen for being 300% more entertaining than the source material.

The danganronpa anime rushed through the investigation parts, and the characters werent as well portrayed as the VN ones, however, the trials were pretty good, ad even though it was rushed beyond belief, I would go as far as to call it "decent".

School days... I never played the VN, but I heard they ended the anime with the bad ending of the VN, when they had several others to choose from?

Dec 21, 2013 6:47 AM

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