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Dec 11, 2013 11:22 AM
#61
Kaiju said: Three Yu-Gi-Oh! series set in the same universe (DM, Gx, 5D's) while Zexal is in another universe. Generaly Yu-Gi-Oh! series is stand alone but there are occasionaly passing mention of pass series.I've always been meaning to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. Would I be able to watch this series without having seen any prior Yu-Gi-Oh series? I've seen some of the dub when I was kid but only the episodes from the first series with an island tournament. |
Dec 11, 2013 12:08 PM
#62
Kaiju said: Yes. This one seems more likely to be another series that sets in another world just like Zexal. But the first three were connected:I've always been meaning to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. Would I be able to watch this series without having seen any prior Yu-Gi-Oh series? I've seen some of the dub when I was kid but only the episodes from the first series with an island tournament. Yugioh Duel Monsters (DM) Yugioh Duel Monsters GX and Yugioh 5D's There was a season 0 (so-called anyway) which was made way before DM, it was connected to DM in some ways but not focusing too much on card games. It showed a more dark nature of the Dark Yugi. But it was great show still. So the order would be season 0, then DM, then GX, then 5D's. Zexal...you can watch it or don't bother, lol. |
Dec 11, 2013 12:11 PM
#63
Thread cleaned All single phrase comments that don't contribute to discussion and a few spam posts removed. Please explain why or why not you like to see this anime. |
Dec 11, 2013 12:51 PM
#64
I wonder when they would do interesting plot developments. Last series I found interesting was GX ;/ |
Dec 11, 2013 1:00 PM
#65
Too bad the art always sucks. |
Dec 11, 2013 1:03 PM
#66
I am not surprised that there is going to be more of this. Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later. Judging by the artwork, it looks in the same style of GX and Zexal. Too bad that we don't get something like the first series or 5D's again. And at least most of 5D's characters were in their late teens. |
Dec 11, 2013 1:15 PM
#67
I hope the protagonist isn't a snot-nosed brat again. I've only finished the first series thus far. I can't keep up any way. lol |
Dec 11, 2013 2:20 PM
#68
yeaaa finaly about time zexal end i loved all the series but zexal.... no i realy hate yuma i hope this new season will be more like 5d's |
Dec 11, 2013 2:39 PM
#69
Wow, I didn't even know ZeXsuck was over. Hopefully we get a better protagonist time. |
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Dec 11, 2013 3:23 PM
#70
Chinensis said: If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later. |
Dec 11, 2013 3:29 PM
#71
Dec 11, 2013 3:36 PM
#72
TheNaturalPerm said: But you do give at least one fuck.yugioh! wow I don't care! I barely give enough fucks to comment! OT: Mehhhhhhhhhhh, I'm thinking I might skip Zexal and move onto this one if it's any good. I don't have any faith though. First half of the first one was best, then 5Ds, then GX. What I would give as one that's similar to the first in quality. |
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Dec 11, 2013 3:55 PM
#73
Dec 11, 2013 4:12 PM
#74
Dec 11, 2013 4:17 PM
#75
Watch it or don't watch it... Man I'm already tired, the series are not getting any better, so I think this would be a no for me. On the other hand I can't judge it if I don't watch it... |
Dec 11, 2013 4:32 PM
#76
Monochrome said: Chinensis said: If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later. It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable. |
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Dec 11, 2013 4:38 PM
#77
GodlyKyon said: Dark Signer Arc is the best arc in 5D's and even if the arc after that cannot achive the same feat as that it is still enjoyable.Monochrome said: Chinensis said: If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later. It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable. |
Dec 11, 2013 5:04 PM
#78
emeraldrosary said: ReikiShutuagi said: I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?Better be better than Zexal. inb4 zexal lovers It's just a letdown. Or rather, a decline. 5D's is IMO, the best Arc in the first season of the series. However, overall DM is still supreme if you want me to get to the details I am going to have to make a LONG post. NeoAnkara said: GodlyKyon said: Dark Signer Arc is the best arc in 5D's and even if the arc after that cannot achive the same feat as that it is still enjoyable.Monochrome said: Chinensis said: If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later. It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable. Well, yeah. It was an amazing followup to the first season with it's excellent duels, characterization, as well suspense of disbelief. I agree. I think 5D's should've take a break of a year or 2 and started a season 2... IT also kind of fell into a slump in the Crahstown arc as well as the WRGP arc, but the lead up to Z-ONE was oh so good. I will probably never forget Z-ONE |
GodlyKyonDec 11, 2013 5:12 PM
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Dec 11, 2013 5:11 PM
#79
GodlyKyon said: Thanks for the head's up! And you don't need to write a long post. That's quite alright GK ^^ emeraldrosary said: ReikiShutuagi said: I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?Better be better than Zexal. inb4 zexal lovers It's just a letdown. Or rather, a decline. 5D's is IMO, the best Arc in the first season of the series. However, overall DM is still supreme if you want me to get to the details I am going to have to make a LONG post. I've decided to watch 5Ds for now. I might still give Zexal a try on the slim chance I may like it, but that's not for a long time to come. |
Dec 11, 2013 5:31 PM
#80
Other than watching most of the original Yu-Gi-Oh series featuring the actual character namesake of the series, and some of DX, I've pretty much ignored the animes since. The card game itself is suffering due to poor playing mechanics; go in a card store, the only tcg they still actively sell singles of is MTG, with many having no Yu-Gi-Oh singles left, or are trying to get rid of them. No wonder why lately they've been re-releasing older series' cards. 5D's was a joke with the racing aspect, and Zexal didn't even look like Yu-Gi-Oh anymore. Looking at the promotional art for the new series, as well as the character name (Yūya Sakaki), if I had to guess the main character is a female. Because of that, as well as it not displaying an alien-like creature alongside the main character, I may try watching it. Promotional art: |
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Dec 11, 2013 6:24 PM
#81
mangastar said: Other than watching most of the original Yu-Gi-Oh series featuring the actual character namesake of the series, and some of DX, I've pretty much ignored the animes since. The card game itself is suffering due to poor playing mechanics; go in a card store, the only tcg they still actively sell singles of is MTG, with many having no Yu-Gi-Oh singles left, or are trying to get rid of them. No wonder why lately they've been re-releasing older series' cards. 5D's was a joke with the racing aspect, and Zexal didn't even look like Yu-Gi-Oh anymore. Looking at the promotional art for the new series, as well as the character name (Yūya Sakaki), if I had to guess the main character is a female. Because of that, as well as it not displaying an alien-like creature alongside the main character, I may try watching it. Promotional art: you're kidding? the last time I checked it it still the world's biggest TCG, and sales have been going better than ever. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Thanks for the head's up! And you don't need to write a long post. That's quite alright GK ^^ emeraldrosary said: ReikiShutuagi said: I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?Better be better than Zexal. inb4 zexal lovers It's just a letdown. Or rather, a decline. 5D's is IMO, the best Arc in the first season of the series. However, overall DM is still supreme if you want me to get to the details I am going to have to make a LONG post. I've decided to watch 5Ds for now. I might still give Zexal a try on the slim chance I may like it, but that's not for a long time to come. Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. |
GodlyKyonDec 11, 2013 7:59 PM
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Dec 11, 2013 9:03 PM
#82
To be honest I would love to see a series connected with the first one, no xyz or synchros would also be awesome. XYZ just kills the show in my opinion. |
Dec 11, 2013 9:07 PM
#83
Shinatosark said: What's wrong with synchro?To be honest I would love to see a series connected with the first one, no xyz or synchros would also be awesome. XYZ just kills the show in my opinion. |
Dec 11, 2013 9:09 PM
#84
Hm, the series went downhill ever since the original ended. Hopefully this will be better than Zexal though |
Dec 11, 2013 9:12 PM
#85
GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. |
Dec 11, 2013 9:15 PM
#86
How about they give them cool monsters for once. I could watch it just for that. They're always puff balls and stuff like that. |
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Dec 11, 2013 9:15 PM
#87
emeraldrosary said: When Fortune Cup start it will be more comfortable. There are also ground duel too in Fortune Cup since not all duelist is a riders.GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. |
Dec 11, 2013 9:21 PM
#88
No flipping way Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic edit:judging from the art is does look better :) |
Dec 11, 2013 9:28 PM
#89
Dec 11, 2013 9:51 PM
#90
renders said: No flipping way Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic edit:judging from the art is does look better :) I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas. |
Dec 11, 2013 10:03 PM
#91
Hoppy said: I prefer new type of monster than new mechanic.renders said: No flipping way Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic edit:judging from the art is does look better :) I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas. |
Dec 11, 2013 10:07 PM
#92
NeoAnkara said: Hoppy said: I prefer new type of monster than new mechanic.renders said: No flipping way Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic edit:judging from the art is does look better :) I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas. They should make a Tsundere-type monster heck this typing has been used in several game series notably the Ken to Mahou no Gakuen mono. series or Class of Heroes in the English speaking parts. |
Dec 11, 2013 10:12 PM
#93
Hoppy said: I wonder if there is Tsundere-type monster I want to see it bitch slap some Dragon-type monster like DAD.NeoAnkara said: Hoppy said: I prefer new type of monster than new mechanic.renders said: No flipping way Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic edit:judging from the art is does look better :) I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas. They should make a Tsundere-type monster heck this typing has been used in several game series notably the Ken to Mahou no Gakuen mono. series or Class of Heroes in the English speaking parts. |
Dec 11, 2013 10:43 PM
#94
GodlyKyon said: It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable. Unfortunately, yes. I did read somewhere that the writer of the first arc did not work on the rest on the series. And the rest has many plot holes, obviously it needed more episodes. |
Dec 11, 2013 10:44 PM
#95
Chinensis said: They cut the time for Zexal which prove to be not very good idea.GodlyKyon said: It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable. Unfortunately, yes. I did read somewhere that the writer of the first arc did not work on the rest on the series. And the rest has many plot holes, obviously it needed more episodes. |
Dec 11, 2013 11:28 PM
#96
I'll need to start looking for my old Yugioh cards going all out in the fanboy craze |
Dec 11, 2013 11:49 PM
#97
the only villain that was make me watch zexal is the last one vector who posses by the last bad guy |
Dec 12, 2013 7:48 AM
#98
Loved the original Yugioh and 5Ds, not much of a fan of GX and I simply despise Zexal, the characters look like a bunch of clowns. I hope this new one is as good as 5Ds and the original and focuses more on actual deck combinations and skill rather than finding some hidden power in the heart of the cards and whatnot. |
Dec 12, 2013 8:20 AM
#99
GENERALxRAIDEN said: Loved the original Yugioh and 5Ds, not much of a fan of GX and I simply despise Zexal, the characters look like a bunch of clowns. I hope this new one is as good as 5Ds and the original and focuses more on actual deck combinations and skill rather than finding some hidden power in the heart of the cards and whatnot. Yeah, Classic and 5D's were the best, although I'm fond of GX. Zexal was the weakest season. Hopefully, Arc V is more towards 5D's quality. |
Dec 12, 2013 8:25 AM
#100
malvarez1 said: Yeah I like GX too but not as much as I like 5D's.GENERALxRAIDEN said: Loved the original Yugioh and 5Ds, not much of a fan of GX and I simply despise Zexal, the characters look like a bunch of clowns. I hope this new one is as good as 5Ds and the original and focuses more on actual deck combinations and skill rather than finding some hidden power in the heart of the cards and whatnot. Yeah, Classic and 5D's were the best, although I'm fond of GX. Zexal was the weakest season. Hopefully, Arc V is more towards 5D's quality. |
Dec 12, 2013 10:28 AM
#101
elior1 said: Ahh yes, Don Thousand. Agree, lol. Right now things seems intense and how the 7 Barian Emperors were made into the Barian World thanks to this dark god was interesting. It seems like Yuma and Astral might face Don Thousand indeed. Vector is one hell twisted of a guy, lol. At least this is the only good point about Zexal, and the twist of...massive spoiler the only villain that was make me watch zexal is the last one vector who posses by the last bad guy having Ryouga (Shark) and Rio as Nasch and Merag were the best twists I've seen in Zexal. One thing which I wasn't expecting. |
Dec 12, 2013 2:15 PM
#102
emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 |
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Dec 12, 2013 2:57 PM
#103
GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. |
Dec 12, 2013 3:20 PM
#104
emeraldrosary said: Sounds like you're at the beginning of the Dark Signers arc. Well, enjoy :D As it just gonna get darker. And yep, dubbed version is just crap.Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. |
Dec 12, 2013 5:14 PM
#105
emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. And that ws the peak of the series imo... episode 26's duel was, at least to my memory, epic. Next season will be pretty good, but get ready for fillers, filler arcs, and shitty new characters until the end of the series. |
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Dec 12, 2013 5:14 PM
#106
Seeing how all of the spin-off's sucked major ass......I would sadly predict another faliure....u never know though |
Oh Yea,We're Doing This |
Dec 12, 2013 5:18 PM
#107
GodlyKyon said: Before WRGP begin there will be a few filler like 10-20 episode. After that thing will start getting better again.emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. And that ws the peak of the series imo... episode 26's duel was, at least to my memory, epic. Next season will be pretty good, but get ready for fillers, filler arcs, and shitty new characters until the end of the series. |
Dec 12, 2013 5:21 PM
#108
NeoAnkara said: GodlyKyon said: Before WRGP begin there will be a few filler like 10-20 episode. After that thing will start getting better again.emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. And that ws the peak of the series imo... episode 26's duel was, at least to my memory, epic. Next season will be pretty good, but get ready for fillers, filler arcs, and shitty new characters until the end of the series. I didn't like WRGP personally. At least the beginning with the freaky hair guys. I liked team Taiyou and Unicorn, a bit, still too much wasted space in for those guys. I personally skipped a lot of those duels, they were boring. But Z-ONE? Oh ho... You just can't forget him. To me, season "2" of 5D's is kind of like a wasted opportunity, the lead up could've infinitely better. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. Sorry, IMO the JP version is much better, I got used to it when I was little since I watched it in China. Also, are you downloading or just streaming? |
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Dec 12, 2013 5:23 PM
#109
GodlyKyon said: I like when they duel Sleeping Giant Thud team. Too bad there is no real Sleeping Gian Thud TCG.NeoAnkara said: GodlyKyon said: Before WRGP begin there will be a few filler like 10-20 episode. After that thing will start getting better again.emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. And that ws the peak of the series imo... episode 26's duel was, at least to my memory, epic. Next season will be pretty good, but get ready for fillers, filler arcs, and shitty new characters until the end of the series. I didn't like WRGP personally. At least the beginning with the freaky hair guys. I liked team Taiyou and Unicorn, a bit, still too much wasted space in for those guys. I personally skipped a lot of those duels, they were boring. But Z-ONE? Oh ho... You just can't forget him. To me, season "2" of 5D's is kind of like a wasted opportunity, the lead up could've infinitely better. And Z-ONE is really memorable villain. The duel with him is epic. |
Dec 12, 2013 5:32 PM
#110
NeoAnkara said: GodlyKyon said: I like when they duel Sleeping Giant Thud team. Too bad there is no real Sleeping Gian Thud TCG.NeoAnkara said: GodlyKyon said: Before WRGP begin there will be a few filler like 10-20 episode. After that thing will start getting better again.emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: Hmm, I'm actually past it already! I'm on episode 26 right now (I move fast ^^) and I must say it is just as good you, chaosflame5, and the others have said it is. emeraldrosary said: GodlyKyon said: To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?Let me just offer my analysis anyhow. It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series. secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs. However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful. But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it. 5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons. Proably episode 16, midway season 1 I've never watched Yugioh subbed before so the first few episodes were tough to get through. The reason is because Duel Monsters got me used to the dub. And that ws the peak of the series imo... episode 26's duel was, at least to my memory, epic. Next season will be pretty good, but get ready for fillers, filler arcs, and shitty new characters until the end of the series. I didn't like WRGP personally. At least the beginning with the freaky hair guys. I liked team Taiyou and Unicorn, a bit, still too much wasted space in for those guys. I personally skipped a lot of those duels, they were boring. But Z-ONE? Oh ho... You just can't forget him. To me, season "2" of 5D's is kind of like a wasted opportunity, the lead up could've infinitely better. And Z-ONE is really memorable villain. The duel with him is epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDEuYou_Z6Y With that being said, I really, really wish 5D's was better. It could've actually been a good ANIME, not just YGO anime. Hopefully this one will be better, uh... robots? |
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