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Dec 11, 2013 9:29 AM

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I hated xyz monsters. They ruined the game for me and made me lose interest.

I hope whatever new concept they introduce is better.

Synchro > all


Lies. Truth is you failed to adapt and got your ass handed to you on duelingnetwork. Happens to all those traditionalist players who refuse to adapt. You'll be back eventually though.


I laughed, because that's probably true. Synchros are still in the meta right now so I'm not sure what the problem is :P. What we need is more good Rituals and Fusions....considering Gishkis and Gem-Knights are pretty mediocre...
Dec 11, 2013 9:33 AM

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I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?
Zexal is indeed the worst of them all. But it still watchable...after tons of episodes later. Not only the art style is sort of different, but also it's not a canon series. It sets in another world. The main character (Yuma) and one of the supoorting characters (called Tokunosuke) were so bad and made me hate them! But Yuma became much more developed later on and is now tolerable. The twist in the latest episodes were pretty good. Namely, two good characters became villains. I like this twist and in a way got me watching more of it. But overall, it's still the worst series as not all characters were favourable. Even some of the early villains were kinda bad.
5D's for me is the best one due to its dark atmosphere. The story is pretty dark. Despite the initial reaction of having duels on motorbikes (D-Wheels namely in Japanese version), the series and duels were exciting to watch. I like the final villain the most and I say he is one of the top villains in the whole Yugioh franchise. Try 5D's anyway, even though it only has 154 episodes, but also, the short 10th anniversary movie where Paradox was the enemy, was actually connected to the final arc of 5D's. Everything mostly makes sense in the end.
The duel with ZONE is the most epic duel in the franchise. 5D's also have many epic duel like Yusei & Kiryu vs Lotton in wild west style (not sure if many agree with me here) and Yusei vs Harald with three Norse God out.
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Dec 11, 2013 9:35 AM
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NeoAnkara said:
The duel with ZONE is the most epic duel in the franchise. 5D's also have many epic duel like Yusei & Kiryu vs Lotton in wild west style (not sure if many agree with me here) and Yusei vs Harald with three Norse God out.
That sounds great. It's something to look forward to then :)
Dec 11, 2013 9:43 AM

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NeoAnkara said:
The duel with ZONE is the most epic duel in the franchise. 5D's also have many epic duel like Yusei & Kiryu vs Lotton in wild west style (not sure if many agree with me here) and Yusei vs Harald with three Norse God out.
Yeah I'm so agreeing :D Yusei vs. ZONE was one of the best final boss duels I've ever seen! It really reminded me of how intense it was when Yugi faced Pegasus. Both were much intense compared to when Judai/Jaden faced Darkness and (possibly after the release of the episode....spoiler) Yuma faces Don Thousand. ZONE's Temporal Machine God cards (or Time Deities in some subs or Time Lords in English version) were so badass. But yeah, even though the Crash Town arc was a slight filler in a way, but that arc was nice with the western style of dueling, at least we knew what happened to Kiryu after the Dark Signers arc, which was the most dark and depressing arc of them all. I missed 5D's....
Dec 11, 2013 9:51 AM

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chaosflame5 said:
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The duel with ZONE is the most epic duel in the franchise. 5D's also have many epic duel like Yusei & Kiryu vs Lotton in wild west style (not sure if many agree with me here) and Yusei vs Harald with three Norse God out.
Yeah I'm so agreeing :D Yusei vs. ZONE was one of the best final boss duels I've ever seen! It really reminded me of how intense it was when Yugi faced Pegasus. Both were much intense compared to when Judai/Jaden faced Darkness and (possibly after the release of the episode....spoiler) Yuma faces Don Thousand. ZONE's Temporal Machine God cards (or Time Deities in some subs or Time Lords in English version) were so badass. But yeah, even though the Crash Town arc was a slight filler in a way, but that arc was nice with the western style of dueling, at least we knew what happened to Kiryu after the Dark Signers arc, which was the most dark and depressing arc of them all. I missed 5D's....
5D's also have the most emotional duel for me.
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Dec 11, 2013 10:06 AM

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This is so true. Just watch littlekuriboh's abridged series for a nastily-hilarious comment on how 4Kids ruined the show :P
I never seen the abridged series yet. But someone did told me it's hilarious xD

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5D's also have the most emotional duel for me.
Oh yeah, I remember that part ;___;
But Dark Signers arc sure is one of the best and darkest arcs I've ever seen, sure it can play with your emotions once you dwell into their pasts.
Dec 11, 2013 10:40 AM

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Oh yeah next season have Future Card Buddyfight and Z/X Ignition. I wonder how that two will competete with Arc-V.
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Dec 11, 2013 11:12 AM

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For a split second I thought it was about the original.

UGH...

That was the only one worth watching.
Dec 11, 2013 11:18 AM

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I've always been meaning to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. Would I be able to watch this series without having seen any prior Yu-Gi-Oh series?

I've seen some of the dub when I was kid but only the episodes from the first series with an island tournament.
Dec 11, 2013 11:21 AM

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Kaiju said:
I've always been meaning to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. Would I be able to watch this series without having seen any prior Yu-Gi-Oh series?

I've seen some of the dub when I was kid but only the episodes from the first series with an island tournament.


Try watching it once again but w/ japanese dub. The english one's garbage coz it's 4Kids, you know.
Dec 11, 2013 11:22 AM

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Kaiju said:
I've always been meaning to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. Would I be able to watch this series without having seen any prior Yu-Gi-Oh series?

I've seen some of the dub when I was kid but only the episodes from the first series with an island tournament.
Three Yu-Gi-Oh! series set in the same universe (DM, Gx, 5D's) while Zexal is in another universe. Generaly Yu-Gi-Oh! series is stand alone but there are occasionaly passing mention of pass series.
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Dec 11, 2013 12:08 PM

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Kaiju said:
I've always been meaning to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. Would I be able to watch this series without having seen any prior Yu-Gi-Oh series?

I've seen some of the dub when I was kid but only the episodes from the first series with an island tournament.
Yes. This one seems more likely to be another series that sets in another world just like Zexal. But the first three were connected:
Yugioh Duel Monsters (DM)
Yugioh Duel Monsters GX
and Yugioh 5D's
There was a season 0 (so-called anyway) which was made way before DM, it was connected to DM in some ways but not focusing too much on card games. It showed a more dark nature of the Dark Yugi. But it was great show still. So the order would be season 0, then DM, then GX, then 5D's. Zexal...you can watch it or don't bother, lol.
Dec 11, 2013 12:11 PM

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Dec 11, 2013 12:51 PM

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I wonder when they would do interesting plot developments. Last series I found interesting was GX ;/
Dec 11, 2013 1:00 PM

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Too bad the art always sucks.
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I am not surprised that there is going to be more of this. Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later.

Judging by the artwork, it looks in the same style of GX and Zexal. Too bad that we don't get something like the first series or 5D's again. And at least most of 5D's characters were in their late teens.
Dec 11, 2013 1:15 PM

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I hope the protagonist isn't a snot-nosed brat again.

I've only finished the first series thus far. I can't keep up any way. lol
Dec 11, 2013 2:20 PM
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yeaaa finaly about time zexal end
i loved all the series but zexal.... no i realy hate yuma
i hope this new season will be more like 5d's
Dec 11, 2013 2:39 PM

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Wow, I didn't even know ZeXsuck was over. Hopefully we get a better protagonist time.
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Dec 11, 2013 3:23 PM

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Chinensis said:
Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later.
If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.
Dec 11, 2013 3:29 PM

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yugioh! wow I don't care! I barely give enough fucks to comment!
Dec 11, 2013 3:36 PM

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yugioh! wow I don't care! I barely give enough fucks to comment!
But you do give at least one fuck.


OT: Mehhhhhhhhhhh, I'm thinking I might skip Zexal and move onto this one if it's any good. I don't have any faith though. First half of the first one was best, then 5Ds, then GX. What I would give as one that's similar to the first in quality.
Dec 11, 2013 3:55 PM

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New Yu-Gi-Oh series already. Better catch up watching the Zexal series.
Dec 11, 2013 4:12 PM

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From the scan MC look like he is using spellcaster deck.
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Dec 11, 2013 4:17 PM

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Watch it or don't watch it... Man I'm already tired, the series are not getting any better, so I think this would be a no for me. On the other hand I can't judge it if I don't watch it...
Dec 11, 2013 4:32 PM

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Monochrome said:
Chinensis said:
Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later.
If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.


It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable.
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Dec 11, 2013 4:38 PM

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GodlyKyon said:
Monochrome said:
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Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later.
If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.


It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable.
Dark Signer Arc is the best arc in 5D's and even if the arc after that cannot achive the same feat as that it is still enjoyable.
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Better be better than Zexal.

inb4 zexal lovers
I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?

It's just a letdown. Or rather, a decline. 5D's is IMO, the best Arc in the first season of the series. However, overall DM is still supreme

if you want me to get to the details I am going to have to make a LONG post.

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Chinensis said:
Back then I remember when they stated that 5D's would be the last YGO series but of course it changed later.
If Zexal is indeed in a seperate universe maybe they meant 5ds was to be the last in the continuing timeline? I know next to nothing about 5ds (plan to start it this weekend), but considering the technology keeps advancing in each series I was sure they happened one after the other, even with the latest series. Not that I research beyond watching episodes.


It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable.
Dark Signer Arc is the best arc in 5D's and even if the arc after that cannot achive the same feat as that it is still enjoyable.

Well, yeah. It was an amazing followup to the first season with it's excellent duels, characterization, as well suspense of disbelief. I agree. I think 5D's should've take a break of a year or 2 and started a season 2...

IT also kind of fell into a slump in the Crahstown arc as well as the WRGP arc, but the lead up to Z-ONE was oh so good. I will probably never forget Z-ONE
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GodlyKyon said:
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Better be better than Zexal.

inb4 zexal lovers
I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?

It's just a letdown. Or rather, a decline. 5D's is IMO, the best Arc in the first season of the series. However, overall DM is still supreme

if you want me to get to the details I am going to have to make a LONG post.
Thanks for the head's up! And you don't need to write a long post. That's quite alright GK ^^

I've decided to watch 5Ds for now. I might still give Zexal a try on the slim chance I may like it, but that's not for a long time to come.
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Other than watching most of the original Yu-Gi-Oh series featuring the actual character namesake of the series, and some of DX, I've pretty much ignored the animes since. The card game itself is suffering due to poor playing mechanics; go in a card store, the only tcg they still actively sell singles of is MTG, with many having no Yu-Gi-Oh singles left, or are trying to get rid of them. No wonder why lately they've been re-releasing older series' cards. 5D's was a joke with the racing aspect, and Zexal didn't even look like Yu-Gi-Oh anymore.

Looking at the promotional art for the new series, as well as the character name (Yūya Sakaki), if I had to guess the main character is a female. Because of that, as well as it not displaying an alien-like creature alongside the main character, I may try watching it.

Promotional art:
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Other than watching most of the original Yu-Gi-Oh series featuring the actual character namesake of the series, and some of DX, I've pretty much ignored the animes since. The card game itself is suffering due to poor playing mechanics; go in a card store, the only tcg they still actively sell singles of is MTG, with many having no Yu-Gi-Oh singles left, or are trying to get rid of them. No wonder why lately they've been re-releasing older series' cards. 5D's was a joke with the racing aspect, and Zexal didn't even look like Yu-Gi-Oh anymore.

Looking at the promotional art for the new series, as well as the character name (Yūya Sakaki), if I had to guess the main character is a female. Because of that, as well as it not displaying an alien-like creature alongside the main character, I may try watching it.

Promotional art:


you're kidding? the last time I checked it it still the world's biggest TCG, and sales have been going better than ever.

emeraldrosary said:
GodlyKyon said:
emeraldrosary said:
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Better be better than Zexal.

inb4 zexal lovers
I've heard ton's of bad things about Zexal, but what's so bad about it exactly? And if it's that bad then which series is the best out of the franchise?

It's just a letdown. Or rather, a decline. 5D's is IMO, the best Arc in the first season of the series. However, overall DM is still supreme

if you want me to get to the details I am going to have to make a LONG post.
Thanks for the head's up! And you don't need to write a long post. That's quite alright GK ^^

I've decided to watch 5Ds for now. I might still give Zexal a try on the slim chance I may like it, but that's not for a long time to come.


Let me just offer my analysis anyhow.
It may not be inherent that ZeXal was "bad", but after YGO 5D's, a series widely perceived(at least by major forums) as well done, and during it's air the anime forums for YGO had the highest attendance, was over, ZeXal had a huge expectation to fill. So while ZeXal is not necessarily a bad YGO series, it was placed in an event where people were satisfied by the previous series.

secondly, while the animation and sound definitely felt better, it's story line stood in a stark contrast against the far more mature atmosphere of 5D's. The character designs were far better in ZeXal, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure some conclusion similar will be reached after looking at ZeXal's(albeit childish) art style and designs.

However, the story line... failed to deliver. While the suspension for disbelief was so well done that by the end of season 1, the whole notion of "card games on motorcycle" would cease to be something silly. ZeXal's, did not achieve the same level of maturity. The story line features the pursuit of 99 "Numbers" cards, the character had to frequently duel other character in order to gain more numbers. For most of season 1 it was much like CSI or NCIS, an episodic "card of the week" style of a show surfaced. While 5D's had a coherent storyline that made sense with each duel, Yusei gets to his next obstacle, each duel felt meaningful.

But the biggest reason was probably the protagonist and their development(or lack of). Allow me to be clear, Yusei does not necessarily change more compared to Yuma. However, Yuma, while depicted as a newcomer to the game, even after beating numerous powerful foes, does not excel and his character does not gain more recognition. Yusei, while not necessarily changing, definite made the duels more exciting to watch. Another part of ZeXal's duels was that it was so... Predictable. I'm not joking when I say the "oh no! I only have 100 LP left! I guess I have to win next turn!" device has been used at least 5/7 duels in season 2. Part of that, when combined with the lack of character progression in maturity, destroys the tension. And when taking in consideration of the fact that Yuma pretty much HAS to win his duels(spoiler so I won't mention it), it kind of reduces all the tension given to it.

5D's started off strong while ZeXal started off weak. 5D's season 2 was able to carry off that momentum of strong suspension and charaterization while ZeXals pretty much remained limbo, taht is the way I look at both of the seasons.
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To be honest I would love to see a series connected with the first one, no xyz or synchros would also be awesome. XYZ just kills the show in my opinion.
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To be honest I would love to see a series connected with the first one, no xyz or synchros would also be awesome. XYZ just kills the show in my opinion.
What's wrong with synchro?
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Hm, the series went downhill ever since the original ended. Hopefully this will be better than Zexal though
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To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?
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How about they give them cool monsters for once. I could watch it just for that. They're always puff balls and stuff like that.
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To be honest I'm having a hard time adjusting to the motorcycles. Coming straight out of Duel monsters it seems like a bit of a stretch. By what episode did were you finally able to get comfortable with the motorcycle aspect of the anime?
When Fortune Cup start it will be more comfortable. There are also ground duel too in Fortune Cup since not all duelist is a riders.
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No flipping way
Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic
edit:judging from the art is does look better :)
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Huh. I'll watch. I hope its better than the very meh Zexal.

I still hope they animate Yu-Gi-Oh! R one day.
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No flipping way
Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic
edit:judging from the art is does look better :)


I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas.


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No flipping way
Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic
edit:judging from the art is does look better :)


I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas.
I prefer new type of monster than new mechanic.
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Hoppy said:
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No flipping way
Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic
edit:judging from the art is does look better :)


I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas.
I prefer new type of monster than new mechanic.


They should make a Tsundere-type monster heck this typing has been used in several game series notably the Ken to Mahou no Gakuen mono. series or Class of Heroes in the English speaking parts.


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Hoppy said:
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Hoppy said:
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No flipping way
Well I hope it's better than Zexal...and that it doesn't introduc e any new card mecanic
edit:judging from the art is does look better :)


I'd count on a new summoning mechanic unless the creators have ran out of ideas.
I prefer new type of monster than new mechanic.


They should make a Tsundere-type monster heck this typing has been used in several game series notably the Ken to Mahou no Gakuen mono. series or Class of Heroes in the English speaking parts.
I wonder if there is Tsundere-type monster I want to see it bitch slap some Dragon-type monster like DAD.
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It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable.


Unfortunately, yes. I did read somewhere that the writer of the first arc did not work on the rest on the series. And the rest has many plot holes, obviously it needed more episodes.
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It is an excellent series early on, but midway falls... Anyhow, you'll be fine to start on it, it's enjoyable.


Unfortunately, yes. I did read somewhere that the writer of the first arc did not work on the rest on the series. And the rest has many plot holes, obviously it needed more episodes.
They cut the time for Zexal which prove to be not very good idea.
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I'll need to start looking for my old Yugioh cards

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the only villain that was make me watch zexal is the last one vector who posses by the last bad guy
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Loved the original Yugioh and 5Ds, not much of a fan of GX and I simply despise Zexal, the characters look like a bunch of clowns. I hope this new one is as good as 5Ds and the original and focuses more on actual deck combinations and skill rather than finding some hidden power in the heart of the cards and whatnot.
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Loved the original Yugioh and 5Ds, not much of a fan of GX and I simply despise Zexal, the characters look like a bunch of clowns. I hope this new one is as good as 5Ds and the original and focuses more on actual deck combinations and skill rather than finding some hidden power in the heart of the cards and whatnot.


Yeah, Classic and 5D's were the best, although I'm fond of GX. Zexal was the weakest season. Hopefully, Arc V is more towards 5D's quality.
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GENERALxRAIDEN said:
Loved the original Yugioh and 5Ds, not much of a fan of GX and I simply despise Zexal, the characters look like a bunch of clowns. I hope this new one is as good as 5Ds and the original and focuses more on actual deck combinations and skill rather than finding some hidden power in the heart of the cards and whatnot.


Yeah, Classic and 5D's were the best, although I'm fond of GX. Zexal was the weakest season. Hopefully, Arc V is more towards 5D's quality.
Yeah I like GX too but not as much as I like 5D's.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
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