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Oct 21, 2013 6:41 PM

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How do you lose 50 times in a fake fight
Oct 21, 2013 11:57 PM

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So much ryona and ecchi I almost couldn't take it.

I lust for more.
Oct 22, 2013 2:48 AM

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You would think that after getting beaten by the same move 10x in a row, she'd asked around or do her own research on how to counter boston crab.. Chris Jericho gets countered at least once every match -__-.

Boston crab is painful alright but you'd think that pro wrestlers should have more moves than that. I wish they'd shown more techniques, it looks like Sakura's the kind who would tap out from a simple arm bar.

I also call bullshit that Toyoda can simply suplex that giant woman. That'll be akin to Gail Kim suplexing Awesome Kong, unless Toyoda is as big as Beth Phoenix.
Oct 22, 2013 3:23 AM

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Master_Yoma said:
How do you lose 50 times in a fake fight
Either no one told her or these seem to be shoot matches. Even so, 50 losses makes her a real jobber, punching bag.

I lived around the corner from "Brian the Silent Mackney" who really was deaf and dumb, not just his nickname. I don't remember him winning a single fight in the 26 years he wrestled though I'm sure he must have early on. By the time I was watching him, he was just a punching bag guy in the ring for the stars to pound on. I went to school with his kids who were not deaf or dumb but they sure knew how to take advantage of parents who were as their mother was also deaf.

http://www.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingBios/mackney.html
Oct 22, 2013 7:45 AM

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Very painful for Sakura. 50 straight lost. Go Sakura!!!!!!!!

Your fans will come back!!!

Ah special training with Berserk Ace!!!
Oct 22, 2013 7:51 AM

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Yep, I'm seeing a lot of problems with this anime. It seems the mangaka exaggerated in the numbers(100 throws? 50 defeats with the same technique?) for impact and he doesn't know a thing about training(physical/muscle and parring aren't the only kind of training! Not even the most important. How in the hell a box fighter or even a Basketball player would improve if the only thing they do is training physically and parring/playing a game?)!

For some reason I'm still liking this anime a lot(maybe the opening and ending song?), so I will still give it a try. If it gets better (I'm not talking about sakura beginning to win, for me she could loose a hundred times, if the rest was well made) then I will be happy, but if it keeps the same I will be pretty mad.
Oct 22, 2013 8:29 AM

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Pretty depressing episode. The losses aren't so much the worst part. It was expected for her to lose a lot during her debut period. Turning her back on her idol fans and friends and watching as they abandon her was hard to stomach.

Well, we all know this is the storm that she will have to overcome. At least they aren't glossing over how hard wrestling actually is. I have to keep watching now to see things improve for her.
Oct 22, 2013 8:59 AM

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The moans were getting annoying. But it has to get better eventually, right? Her record I mean, not the moans XD

It wouldn't be a proper sports anime if the MC kept losing like that.
Oct 22, 2013 10:16 AM

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It's kinda sad though to see Sakura being defeated in every single match and losing her fans but I hope Toyoda will teach her to find the way out
Oct 22, 2013 11:04 AM
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chaos86 said:
Boston crab is painful alright but you'd think that pro wrestlers should have more moves than that. I wish they'd shown more techniques, it looks like Sakura's the kind who would tap out from a simple arm bar.


From wikipedia: "In Japan, the Boston crab is commonly used as a hold to defeat young and inexperienced wrestlers; the ability to overcome the hold is considered a sign of growth".

Unfortunately, Sakura is being put in some of the most brutal Boston crabs I've ever seen... I'm surprised she hasn't been snapped in half a dozen times over. It seems she will eventually learn to break this hold, although learning to avoid it altogether probably won't happen.

I didn't think Toyoda would be so merciless in the training session. It will be interesting to see how Sakura overcomes her sensei, who has her locked in the most painful and devastating crab yet.
Oct 22, 2013 12:21 PM

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felt so wrong: the happy idol music playing while Sakura was beaten painfully over and over again; poor Sakura.
Oct 22, 2013 12:44 PM
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Man, at this point I'm really just continuing to watch because I hate to have my "Dropped" list grow. This show is just so damn bad and unrealistic. Yes, I realise Japanese Puro is stiffer than WWE stuff and it is pretty normal to have rookies get hazed in the ring to see if they can handle it, but NO, absoluty NO promoter in their right mind would book a wrestler to lose 50 matches in a row, never mind losing all to the same fvcking finisher. If she can't figure out a way out of the hold, she will be out off the live shows and back to just training at the dojo after maybe 20 matches at the latest. Yes, promotions need weak jobbers to put their stars over, but with 50 losses in a row, she is just damaged goods and has been rendered such a bad wrestler that no crowd will ever give a damn about her again. And getting a non-reaction from the crowd is the last thing any promoter would want.

Now, I realise I shouldn't expect a 100% accurate display of the happenings of puroresu, but still, this is just so far off the mark it's just ridiculous.

And THEN you add in the fact that your 'heroine' is screaming more in one episode than most pornstars scream in their entire career. Might just be worth it to watch the next episode on mute and just read the subs.
Oct 22, 2013 3:29 PM

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Doesn't grabbing the rope force the other wrestler to release the hold or have I been watching too much WWE?
Oct 22, 2013 4:18 PM

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I look exactly like that one remaining fanboy who still comes 2 see her during her matches

are there any douijins of the two doing the horizontal tango??? I'd love to self-insert in those SITUATIONS especially if i get do 2 my own version of the boston crab on her lOL
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Oct 22, 2013 7:07 PM

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I wish Sakura would stop sucking soon and actually figure out how to wrestle. There must be some kind of counter to the Boston Crab, or maybe should could work on her grip so that they won't yank her away from the rope every time. In wrestling that's supposed to require a break in the hold ... of course, this is also a universe where pro wrestling is real, so the rules may be a bit different.

I'd honestly be about to drop it if it wasn't for all the fanservice, and the fact that the next episode preview looks like she'll finally figure out a counter to the Boston Crab and maybe even start winning a match.
Oct 22, 2013 7:35 PM

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straggy said:
I laughed at the preview - "for the sake of the sports drama". At least they're admitting it.

I'm starting to ship Sakura with that cute chubby fan of her's, though. He's sticking by her no matter what and I think it'd be really cute if they met properly and hit it off.


YES!!! im glad someone else thinks this way

its like my dream is coming true in the form of this anime >w<d!!!
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Oct 23, 2013 11:14 AM

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I'm getting tired of this crap. I'm tired of her moans.
Oct 24, 2013 8:23 AM

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Ayana can now easly dub hentais.
Oct 25, 2013 10:43 AM

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I like that she kept losing and that she's not suddenly kicking ass but god this is waaayyy too much. Only reason I decided to watch this episode was because last episode showed some potential but I guess I was wrong, not even all these fanservice can save this from all that moaning. Dropped

4/10
Oct 25, 2013 2:43 PM

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Damn, didn't expect the lows to be this low.
It's so sad and painful.

But, what the hell, WHY HASN"T SHE BEEN INJURED. The way she is always screaming, I'd think she would have a horrible injury by now.
Oct 26, 2013 12:03 AM

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I like this kind of teaching.
Oct 26, 2013 9:12 PM

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Gsimp said:
but NO, absoluty NO promoter in their right mind would book a wrestler to lose 50 matches in a row, never mind losing all to the same fvcking finisher. If she can't figure out a way out of the hold, she will be out off the live shows and back to just training at the dojo after maybe 20 matches at the latest. Yes, promotions need weak jobbers to put their stars over, but with 50 losses in a row, she is just damaged goods and has been rendered such a bad wrestler that no crowd will ever give a damn about her again. And getting a non-reaction from the crowd is the last thing any promoter would want.


i just see is that they are going the Kenta Kobashi route (he lost his first 69 matches and went on to become a huge deal after his first big win) with so many losses in a row.

also fyi to folks, Boston Crabs are often used to beat rookies in Japan
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Oct 27, 2013 5:41 AM

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dannymilk said:
Gsimp said:
but NO, absoluty NO promoter in their right mind would book a wrestler to lose 50 matches in a row, never mind losing all to the same fvcking finisher. If she can't figure out a way out of the hold, she will be out off the live shows and back to just training at the dojo after maybe 20 matches at the latest. Yes, promotions need weak jobbers to put their stars over, but with 50 losses in a row, she is just damaged goods and has been rendered such a bad wrestler that no crowd will ever give a damn about her again. And getting a non-reaction from the crowd is the last thing any promoter would want.


i just see is that they are going the Kenta Kobashi route (he lost his first 69 matches and went on to become a huge deal after his first big win) with so many losses in a row.

also fyi to folks, Boston Crabs are often used to beat rookies in Japan


but Kenta Kobashi 69 defeats were planned and the fights were so good that even without a victory he won the rookie of the year. It has nothing to do with a weakling that doesn't know how to fight and looses always by the same technique.
Oct 30, 2013 12:02 PM

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I only seen the raws of this from volumes 1-3 but DAMN, I knew Sakura lost a lot but 50 straight losses? Wow that is really not right or normal at all. Just watching this is more depressing then looking at the raws, but thank god she gets a lot better and puts more effort later and actually wins.
Oct 31, 2013 8:11 PM

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Gsimp said:
Man, at this point I'm really just continuing to watch because I hate to have my "Dropped" list grow. This show is just so damn bad and unrealistic. Yes, I realise Japanese Puro is stiffer than WWE stuff and it is pretty normal to have rookies get hazed in the ring to see if they can handle it, but NO, absoluty NO promoter in their right mind would book a wrestler to lose 50 matches in a row, never mind losing all to the same fvcking finisher. If she can't figure out a way out of the hold, she will be out off the live shows and back to just training at the dojo after maybe 20 matches at the latest. Yes, promotions need weak jobbers to put their stars over, but with 50 losses in a row, she is just damaged goods and has been rendered such a bad wrestler that no crowd will ever give a damn about her again. And getting a non-reaction from the crowd is the last thing any promoter would want.

Now, I realise I shouldn't expect a 100% accurate display of the happenings of puroresu, but still, this is just so far off the mark it's just ridiculous.

And THEN you add in the fact that your 'heroine' is screaming more in one episode than most pornstars scream in their entire career. Might just be worth it to watch the next episode on mute and just read the subs.


Well WWE is "staged", so you're usually going to lose to whoever the writers are trying to push over. But even if that weren't the case you'd just fall off the map for a bit and come back later with a "different identity".

Also, thanks for telling me this guys. I'll probably skip through most of episode 3. Nothing I dislike more than when a main character loses a bunch.
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Nov 1, 2013 3:47 PM

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havent watched any episode yet but thinking about watching it.

all the ecchi aside. how does it hold up as a sports anime? the training the actual wrestling etc. is it worth watching?
Nov 1, 2013 5:51 PM

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xSanox said:
havent watched any episode yet but thinking about watching it.

all the ecchi aside. how does it hold up as a sports anime? the training the actual wrestling etc. is it worth watching?


Unfortunately I can't say is worth. At least for now, because it didn't really show anything about training and fights, nothing that it can be called good(well one see some people will call it really good, but for me it was meh).
Even though I can't talk any good for it yet, it has the potential to be really good. I really hope for it.
Nov 6, 2013 4:23 PM

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There was way too much moaning in this episode. Way too much.
Dec 9, 2013 10:56 PM

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Get wrecked, Sakura. Get wrecked.
Dec 18, 2013 9:51 AM

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3/5

Technically it is a horror, a narrative seems even worse, I've seen fights between women, these are the most horrible. Animations non-existent.
Pride of the protagonist zero.
The final part of the episode and the absolute best compared to what we have seen so far.
The nice thing about the plot that I appreciate is that there is an idol that has just four crap shoot, it should be them in pro wrestling and win, but suffers all the colors, but please, a person can also lose, but not to the same way forever! XD
Jan 27, 2014 2:47 PM

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Doesn't grabbing the rope force the other wrestler to release the hold or have I been watching too much WWE?

You're right, and it's the same in Japan. You have to let go once the opponent grabs the rope.
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Feb 13, 2014 9:34 AM

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Holy shit, 50 losses! What the hell is she doing when she's training? It also pisses me off that those 50 losses were from her giving up, she should have known what she was getting herself into when she said she was going pro. I seriously can't respect a character or person that just gives up so easily, it pisses me off, I'm a little relieved that Toyoda is knocking some sense into her though.
I guess you underestimate the pain that one has to go through in wrestling. Sakura is one tough nut but precisely because of that she would still be conscious even as she is under a pain that might have got someone to faint already but in wrestling, like judo, once you are locked you are out of wits to get out so what more to do? At least in judo you get time count but this does not seem to be the case in pro-wrestling. You just endure the pain without gain (as you cannot get out) and Sakura already endures pain further than many could go, so why shouldn't she give up? Just to prove that she could bear more pain??


Wait isn't this shit fake? That not real wrestling. So if she lost 50 times then it was staged like that. Sorry but this wrestling is theatrical bullshit. Is not an actual fight.
Why the hell is it presented like they are really fighting?

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starting to ship Sakura with that cute chubby fan of her's, though. He's sticking by her no matter what and I think it'd be really cute if they met properly and hit it off.


Yeah the guy deserves a free fuck night at least for being so loyal. His there no matter what.

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but Kenta Kobashi 69 defeats were planned and the fights were so good that even without a victory he won the rookie of the year. It has nothing to do with a weakling that doesn't know how to fight and looses always by the same technique.


All this type of wrestling fights are planned. The winner is decided before they even fight. There is no such things as "learning to fight". There is "learning to act"

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havent watched any episode yet but thinking about watching it.

all the ecchi aside. how does it hold up as a sports anime? the training the actual wrestling etc. is it worth watching?


This is not a sport. It's theater. At least that is what this type of wrestling is in reality. The anime seems to hint that is some alternative universe were they actually fight.
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Jul 7, 2014 1:54 PM

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dem boston crabs

shit is unrealistic as hell though, but poor gal

quality seems to be dropping more and more....

she does remind me of this one chick in one of my fav hentai though so I'll keep going for now...
Jan 10, 2015 5:50 AM

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Rope break fail killing anime almost as badly as excessive ear-shattering squealing. Fool this isn't Friday the 13th. Shut yo fool mouth and learn a counter for f's sake.
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Apr 4, 2015 7:37 PM

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50 losses!? Damn! Get good! Hope she improves soon. No wonder everryone lost faith in her.
Jun 25, 2015 12:49 AM

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Wow. I thought I had a pretty high tolerance for enjoying anime, the good and the bad...but this show is just complete shit. Probably the worst thing I've watched since Glasslip.

Literally no way in reality would this girl have been allowed to take 50 losses in a row. I don't now if they did that for drama's sake, but that shit is retardedly excessive.

Immediately after her first loss, her coaches and trainers would've been working with her. If she lost even 3 times to the same move, they'd be on her ass. If she lost 10 times in a row, she shouldn't be allowed to debut anymore and should be stuck to training. 50 fucking times? Anime logic: businesses don't exist. I guess the whole concept of Berserk losing millions and millions of yen in lost ticket sales from people not wanting to watch her get beat is non-existent. Fuck being sidelined, she literally would've been fired for costing the team that much money.

Too bad I don't drop shows. 9 more episodes of this fucking nightmare left.
Aug 8, 2015 8:11 AM

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Urgh, all this screaming and moaning is doing my head in.

50 loses is bs, she should've been released already.
Nov 25, 2015 6:25 PM

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LMFAO! This episode wasn't sad, but pathetic. How do you let yourself get to 50 losses without a win. I appreciate the moaning and all, but just seeing Sakura say "Ow," "That hurts," and "I give up" throughout the whole episode is really tiring. It just made me laugh. Glad Toyoda didn't let her go. Getting pinned by the same damn move for 50 matches is a WTF! moment. How do you not learn to counter that?

Hold on...I'm getting way too invested in this. I'm just watching this for the oppai.
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Feb 21, 2016 5:09 PM
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Yeah, its sad and all, but I feel for the crowd. All her losses are pissing me off, she gives up too easily. I'm not surprised she has 1 fan now. His friends were right. I may seem like a prick, and trust me I know I'm an asshole, but she isn't going anywhere unless she takes her head out of her ass because it's not a hat and get in the game.
Aug 29, 2017 7:57 AM
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She's giving up rather easily in the matches, but it took her 50 losses for her to want to stop wrestling.

Not sure why everyone finds it a strange that her opponents are using a move that's a guaranteed win.

Guess it helps that I never watched wrestling.
Dec 27, 2017 2:48 AM
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Yo does Sakura even practice? Because I haven't even seen her do any practice yet, no wonder she's losing...

And in that match with Toyoda it was like 5 vs 1 and the referee didn't do anything about it wtf? And then there's like 5 of them holding her down and somehow she breaks out of it and then starts smashing them. Makes no sense...

Feb 24, 2018 8:06 PM
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i don't know if japanese pro wrestling will be same as fake wrestling like WWE Smackdown?
how can it be allowed to use kendo stick on ring against barehanded opponent, and 5 vs 1 is it legal ?
Feb 11, 2019 2:27 PM

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Most annoying character and drama this series.

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Jun 22, 2020 1:45 PM

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Not only is 90% of this anime Sakura screaming "ittai", the fights are also complete shit.
Aug 2, 2022 7:58 PM
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Now Sakura understands how hard wrestling is. She is afraid to get in the ring, but also afraid to quit, because she feels that she will disappoint everyone. The sad thing is that she hasn't realize that many fans already turned their backs on her. Maybe this training will open her eyes.

Ahora Sakura entiende lo duro que es la lucha libre. Tiene miedo de subir al ring, pero también miedo de dejarlo, porque siente que decepcionara a todos. Lo triste es que no se ha dado cuenta que muchos fanáticos ya le han dado la espalda. Quizás este entrenamiento le haga abrir los ojos.
Jan 2, 2023 6:57 AM

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Damn, lot of moaning in this ep. I swear it wouldnt be as bad but it feels like they just silence any background noise just so you can only hear her which is distracting.
Also, 50 fucking losses? What the hell are yall teaching her. 
Also, that cliffhanger, shes in trouble now.
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May 14, 2023 3:35 PM
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Its more about how crap their non-existent trainning was. Nowhere in those 50 losses were we ever shown her actually training to combat those moves.

In fact she was being setup to fail, time and again.
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