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| Good movie, with a very enjoyable main character (Azaka is much cooler than her brother for sure ;)), but far from the 3rd (THE masterpiece of Kara no Kyoukai) and the 5th (although hugely overrated on MAL). Great animation, art, and fairy battle obviously. I'd say it's one of the 3 less interesting ones though, along with movies 1 and 4. |
JacutJul 31, 2009 7:48 AM
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| Where to start? Okay, basically Incest is not the main theme, but I can understand why it is called The Garden Of Sinners, Im not kidding. Second of all, Boukyaku needed a lot of Mikiya, hes an interesting character; I can't find a reason why would he not cry before a lose of a sibling, the gazing star scene with Azaka at the end touched my heart altough I find quite disturbing the logic of being inlove of a brother. The whole Ouji / Kurogiri / Kaori issue was a bit overloaded with unnecessary drama, I foresighted that something like this was going to happen so they could include Azaka on the plotstoryline. We know a lot of Mikiya even tho hes almost not even in the series; quite obviously that hes a main character and hes the most important person for Shiki in all this. Continued by all of this, the epic fight of Azaka Vs. Ouji with the omagawd music on the background, fluent movement of the characters when they're fighting; ridiculously awesome. I always bristle before the animation of Kara No Kyoukai. Araya Souren; Why can't he just die for once and all eh? Its so annoying to see him on every single movie without knowing whats his role on all of this, yeah, quite clearly stated that he was friend of Touko along with that blonde Clown in Mujun Rasen -I forgot his name- but can't they just make it clear whats his point? Why hes such an annoying cunt? Anyway back again to the movie, I wonder what the heck was that canibal at the end along with Araya? Could be that he'll be in the next one? Highly doubt since Satsujin Kousatsu is all about Shiki and Mikiya's past, could be that they're going to explain what happened on that highroad when Araya appeared in front of them then inmediately after a jumpback in time to the future? Ah well, the last one will probably explain it all. Overall it was entertaining as hell, can't find a reason why someone wouldn't like KnK movies. The best one for me has been the third one. EDIT: Nevermind I know why Araya is out in the end now talking to that canibal guy, He was one of the classmates that appeared in the first half of Satsujin Kousatsu, so it was obviously a preview of the next movie. |
MikiyoJul 31, 2009 9:18 AM
| Even more stunning visuals than before (at least that's my impression) and great music. On the other hand the movie was too short and missed out on going a bit more into the important parts instead of dragging some unimportant ones. The story was a bit simple, too. It felt a bit unusual for KnK, though I didn't dislike it. But it was weaker than several other ones. Two things I didn't really get, though: 1. What was that flower? A minion of that magus which controlled the fairies? 2. How did the fight with the magus end? It seemed to me Shiki was able to stab him, though it was mentioned afterwards that he is still alive? |
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| I guess this is the first Rakkyo movie I've watched where I didn't know what to expect. I read some of the novel translations for 1-5. It seems the biggest complaint about this one was that it got rid of a lot from the novel? |
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| Ain't the best from the six, but can barely wait for the seventh. Another note in my book big brothers are made to be hated not fail in love with. |
| I don't like Azaka. But then again, I'm not too fond of incest, unless it's worked really carefully. So yeah, she pretty much made me watch the thing with no real spark of interest. The story was also not the best - felt a too simplistic, but I think I'm still under the effect of the mindblowing 5th movie - a feeling that is likely to not disappear completely. I loved the guy's power, I love it when words are treated as weapons, and I'm disappointed that they didn't explore him and his fight with Shiki more. I felt they were trying too hard with Azaka, but I haven't read the novels, so I can't say much on this matter. Still good and gorgeous to the eyes and ears, and I like it when people mess with memories and the like. I felt like the scene after the credits was worth more than the whole movie, haha. |
| Like all the others said, the animation was superb even during the fight scene, Azaka kicking major butt was the best part. (Azaka's magic is beautiful though those fairies were kinda ugly.) The music was great too, not to mention the post-credits. XD But the story does kinda kill it; I mean, it was obvious who the culprits were once you saw them in the beginning. Maybe it was intentional but for me it ruined the mystery a bit. The revenge Ouji wanted was weak too, too bad they couldn't make the movie longer so they could of flesh out the characters (other Azaka and Shiki) more. Would of made the plot a lot more interesting then it is. Great movie nonetheless, it makes Azaka more likeable instead of just 'being there'. 8/10 Is it just me or does the water in this show always look beautiful and attention grabbing? |
| great movie, this director didn't have the luck to work with the most epic material like 3 or 5 but it was still fucking great. also that preview for seven was edgy as hell, makes the first eight minutes of elfen lied look like childs play if you ask me just because of the topic and the way its dealt with. |
| 6th was probably the worst movie imo... shiki>azaka... so im biased xD, it was too short, but still was solid, even though it felt sub par... 7th movie looks epic win ^_^ |
| The worst movie of all 6 so far. Specially after movie 5 with an awesome story this one was too disappointing. The animation and music were great and only for that reason I give it a 7/10 but if the production wasn't as good as it is even a 4/10 would be too much for this movie in my opinion. I'm looking forward to the 7th movie. |
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| That was epic awesomeness. 5th movie was better than 4 previous but Oblivion Recording was even greater. The story was very interesting and non-predictable. Azaka was awesome, and the fight visuals were the best I've ever seen. I really wish I would have seen this on the big screen of the movie theater. I hope they'll release a blu-ray version |
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| Obviously, it's Azaka show. Animation was still great though shorter fights this time. Simple story telling but it was enjoyable and lighter this time. That flower? Kinda lame though. Up until now, it's still probably movie 3 that I found the best of them all. Towards the end which is probably the preview for movie 7 - Yuck, that nearly made me vomit. |
| I almost fell asleep. |
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kokuro said: The worst movie of all 6 so far. Specially after movie 5 with an awesome story this one was too disappointing. The animation and music were great and only for that reason I give it a 7/10 but if the production wasn't as good as it is even a 4/10 would be too much for this movie in my opinion. I'm looking forward to the 7th movie. Same here, but i give 6 for graphic. |
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| hahah, this series has such clumsy writing. Loved how they tried to handle a mature subject like incest but ended up making it awkwardly hilarious. Oh, and the ending, with the cannibalism. Where the dead sorcerer guy says "That's regrettable... you were one letter away from being a lion (shishi)" Was that supposed to be implying that that dude was Shiki? If so... sex change, what. This series just keeps getting more and more fan-fic-ish. On the other hand, maybe he was just referring to one of the dozen other Shiki's in the nasu-verse. I swear he has some bizarre obsession with that name. |
naikou said: <snip> Lol. But anyway http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=67705&show=40#msg4095329 . |
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cyruz said: naikou said: <snip> Lol. But anyway http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=67705&show=40#msg4095329 . Damn. I was hoping Kokuto would have to make good on his "I would like Shiki even if she were a guy" statement. Or wait, didn't she have a male personality anyway or something? |
naikou said: Or wait, didn't she have a male personality anyway or something? Not sure if I still remember it that clearly, but I think she originally had a male and a female personality. The male one fell kind of in love with Kokuto, but died later on in the accident. Now the female one is trying to act male in an attempt to replace her missing half. But it seems her initial dislike of Kokuto slowly turns into love, too. |
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Forever said: naikou said: Or wait, didn't she have a male personality anyway or something? Not sure if I still remember it that clearly, but I think she originally had a male and a female personality. The male one fell kind of in love with Kokuto, but died later on in the accident. Now the female one is trying to act male in an attempt to replace her missing half. But it seems her initial dislike of Kokuto slowly turns into love, too. Unless I'm missing something here, the male Shiki never fell in love with Kokuto as far as I can remember. If she did, she wouldn't have, you know, tried to kill him. If anything, I thought the female Shiki was the one who slowly developed something for Kokuto. And Touko says the current Shiki's personality is more like a new third personality because she isn't a complete normal school girl like the original female shiki and isn't entirely cold like the original male shiki (because she displays a really playful attitude sometimes). and i don't think shiki's ever really disliked kokuto to begin with. |
Red_Comet said: Unless I'm missing something here, the male Shiki never fell in love with Kokuto as far as I can remember. If she did, she wouldn't have, you know, tried to kill him. If anything, I thought the female Shiki was the one who slowly developed something for Kokuto. And Touko says the current Shiki's personality is more like a new third personality because she isn't a complete normal school girl like the original female shiki and isn't entirely cold like the original male shiki (because she displays a really playful attitude sometimes). and i don't think shiki's ever really disliked kokuto to begin with. Well, maybe love was not the right word, but a strong liking it is. I rewatched that scene in movie 2 again and it's the male Shiki that liked Kokuto and the female one who tried to kill him and didn't really like him initially in movie 2. The male one clearly states that the female side has the complete control over the body. So you got it the other way round. |
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| Isn't the "Cold" Shiki the female Shiki, with SHIKI (male) being the playful, "I'll speak about Shiki's hidden feelings and thoughts" Shiki? |
| Well, this movie was just what I've come to expect of Kara no Kyoukai movies. 10% - Story Progression 1% - Cool fights 19% - Credits + Next movie preview 70% - Boring silence during which absolutely nothing happens and makes me fall asleep. End of the movie was pretty decent though. Better than most of the KnK movies. 7/10 Although realisticly, these KnK movies just aren't any good really. There's so little content in each movie that it's actually sad. Almost nothing happens at all. Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. |
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5layer said: Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. I'd cry if that happened. |
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5layer said: Yeah, if they copy/pasted all of the fight scenes into one movie, it might at least be enjoyable.Although realisticly, these KnK movies just aren't any good really. There's so little content in each movie that it's actually sad. Almost nothing happens at all. Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. |
| man, it would have been better if they explained Satsuki Kurogiri's ability to speak the "true unified language" as well as the strange way his memories work. This movie simplified TOO MUCH stuff that was awesome in the original story. And they skipped what happened to Kurogiri at the very end and didn't make it very clear that Shiki may have recovered her memories..... The whole depth of the original chapter was left out.... *sigh* |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: man, it would have been better if they explained Satsuki Kurogiri's ability to speak the "true unified language" as well as the strange way his memories work. "True unified language?" Sounds like the Speech. He doesn't talk to doorknobs and white holes, does he? |
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Waffocopter said: wakka9ca said: man, it would have been better if they explained Satsuki Kurogiri's ability to speak the "true unified language" as well as the strange way his memories work. "True unified language?" Sounds like the Speech. He doesn't talk to doorknobs and white holes, does he? that's exactly what he was supposed of capable of doing. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: Waffocopter said: wakka9ca said: man, it would have been better if they explained Satsuki Kurogiri's ability to speak the "true unified language" as well as the strange way his memories work. "True unified language?" Sounds like the Speech. He doesn't talk to doorknobs and white holes, does he? that's exactly what he was supposed of capable of doing. O_O Damn. The movie really did leave out a lot of awesomeness then, it seems! And now I wish there were novel translations that went as far as the 6th... |
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Waffocopter said: wakka9ca said: Waffocopter said: wakka9ca said: man, it would have been better if they explained Satsuki Kurogiri's ability to speak the "true unified language" as well as the strange way his memories work. "True unified language?" Sounds like the Speech. He doesn't talk to doorknobs and white holes, does he? that's exactly what he was supposed of capable of doing. O_O Damn. The movie really did leave out a lot of awesomeness then, it seems! And now I wish there were novel translations that went as far as the 6th... actually, you can read the sypnosis in english here: http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~typemoon/rakkyo/ and for the 6th book: http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~typemoon/rakkyo/06.htm quote about Kurogiri from that: "Also known as the Master of Babel, he is the only sorcerer who is able to speak the "Unified Language" that existed in the mythological age. It is a language that is spoken to the plane of the world that we stand on and not to people themselves. There is no concept that can't be communicated, surpassing the barriers of cultures, and everything he says has a forceful meaning. For that reason, he is the ultimate hypnotist. He could also read the memories of people from the records in that plane, even if that person forgot it." In other words, he could recover Shiki's memories even if they are lost from Shiki's head, as the world itself remembers them.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: Waffocopter said: wakka9ca said: Waffocopter said: wakka9ca said: man, it would have been better if they explained Satsuki Kurogiri's ability to speak the "true unified language" as well as the strange way his memories work. "True unified language?" Sounds like the Speech. He doesn't talk to doorknobs and white holes, does he? that's exactly what he was supposed of capable of doing. O_O Damn. The movie really did leave out a lot of awesomeness then, it seems! And now I wish there were novel translations that went as far as the 6th... actually, you can read the sypnosis in english here: http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~typemoon/rakkyo/ and for the 6th book: http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~typemoon/rakkyo/06.htm quote about Kurogiri from that: "Also known as the Master of Babel, he is the only sorcerer who is able to speak the "Unified Language" that existed in the mythological age. It is a language that is spoken to the plane of the world that we stand on and not to people themselves. There is no concept that can't be communicated, surpassing the barriers of cultures, and everything he says has a forceful meaning. For that reason, he is the ultimate hypnotist. He could also read the memories of people from the records in that plane, even if that person forgot it." In other words, he could recover Shiki's memories even if they are lost from Shiki's head, as the world itself remembers them.... Synopsis is good enough for me. Thanks! |
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| Meh story. Lol at lame the incest attempt. Almost wanted to give a six but settled for a seven cause the animation and music was was a bit better as compared to the rest. |
| Pretty much the weakest movie so far, but far from unenjoyable. Next episode looks extremely promising. All the subtle familiarities with other Type-Moon works made me lol. especially Seo and her dog Akira xD |
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| 5>1>2>3>4>6 Maybe it was the goodness that I remembered so fondly from the 5th movie, but this sixth one left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Far and away the weakest of the Kyoukai movies, it was completely lacking in focus. They threw in way to much of that incest nonsense to not make it the main focus of the film, and combined with the emphasis on Azaka-moe (resulting in a plethora of unnecessary, boring, and "why would you do that" scenes), it took away from the actual main story - the incident with the fairies. I really would have liked to see that incident fleshed out more, but it only got a small amount of time, mostly at the end when they realized they had to wrap things up. I respect them trying to give Azaka some development (although I think Shiki is by far the more interesting character anyway), but I feel they could have done it less obtrusively. The animation and sound were stellar as always, but the fantastic presentation doesn't go far enough to save the butchered storyline and awkward character revelations (presentation alone rarely does). All in all, I guess this felt more like a typical Type-Moon adaptation (which I didn't care for at all) than a Kara no Kyoukai movie. While the previous KnK did have TM's trademark snail's-pace-boring story progression and tell-don't-show attitude, they at least stayed focused on the plot, which was also much more creative and interesting than TM's other work. What this one had was the tacked-on "romance" element that really kills TM works for me by being really forced and shoving the story out of the way. Past Kyoukai films did have some degree of romance, but it knew its place: it was more understated and didn't get in the way of the more important stuff. Hopes are high for movie 7, however, being the series conclusion and the follow-up to what was overall an interesting bit of backstory. As long as it keeps its eyes on the road, it should be great. |
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naikou said: 5layer said: Yeah, if they copy/pasted all of the fight scenes into one movie, it might at least be enjoyable.Although realisticly, these KnK movies just aren't any good really. There's so little content in each movie that it's actually sad. Almost nothing happens at all. Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. Which would completely destroy idea, philosophy, storyline and the characters. Certain previous adaptationsthings that were never made are the proof that when adapting Type-Moon stuff, its better NOT to remove anything as anything is part of everything.. |
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| oh yeah probably really the weakest movie i have to agree. too bad it could be turned into something great imo. because azaka is a really awesome char and nana mizuki <3 but i dont think a villain role is fitting for her. |
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drocell said: The canibal guy is kinda attractive. lol *shudders* Noooooo... |
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5layer said: Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. Yeah, that'd be the perfect way to destroy this series. *facepalm* |
Charliehsv said: Well they don't need to combine them. Maybe playing them at 4x speed would have been enough.5layer said: Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. Yeah, that'd be the perfect way to destroy this series. *facepalm* |
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5layer said: Charliehsv said: Well they don't need to combine them. Maybe playing them at 4x speed would have been enough.5layer said: Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. Yeah, that'd be the perfect way to destroy this series. *facepalm* This would not only destroy this series but would also create a lolicore song -_- |
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| My least favorite out of all the movies yet, but still good. |
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Fai said: lolz, I didn't mean to ACTUALLY speed it up 4x with audio sped up too. I just meant to make events occur 4x faster.5layer said: Charliehsv said: Well they don't need to combine them. Maybe playing them at 4x speed would have been enough.5layer said: Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. Yeah, that'd be the perfect way to destroy this series. *facepalm* This would not only destroy this series but would also create a lolicore song -_- |
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5layer said: Fai said: lolz, I didn't mean to ACTUALLY speed it up 4x with audio sped up too. I just meant to make events occur 4x faster.5layer said: Charliehsv said: Well they don't need to combine them. Maybe playing them at 4x speed would have been enough.5layer said: Maybe if they had combined all 7 KnK movies into a single 2hr movie then they would have had something great. Yeah, that'd be the perfect way to destroy this series. *facepalm* This would not only destroy this series but would also create a lolicore song -_- I was thinking what Fai was thinking. I'm sure it'd be amusing to see them super fast lectures and fight scenes to squeaky high-pitched battle themes for like ten minutes at least. In fact, I'll try that when I get home. But yeah, I'll keep the Kara no Kyoukai movies the way they are, no cuts or anything. |
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| Azaka is Goku. |
| Bleh, that was massively disappointing. The animation was jaw dropping at least. |
| 8/10, the best KnK movie so far in my opinion. Sure the story is plain weak, but that pretty much defines the whole series. Judging how they resort to a man-eating psychopath, storywise the last movie is going to be the worst of all. With even more magical nonsense thrown in to be interpreted as deep philosophy by the fan crowd. *sigh* |
| This movie was little weak than all Kara no Kyoukai movies, but that makes more enjoyable to watch it. Like as all movies, it has stunning visuals, superb animation, and great music. The movie was little short and some important information was missed out. The story was good, obviously, but it don’t have interesting plot enough to make the movie enjoyable such as I noticed Ouji’s revenge so easy at the beginning. The story was little weak, but it was a good movie and I personally liked this movie despite having a weak story is not good. I loved that yuri scene where Azaka tried to take small knife from Shiki. Oh, Azaka and Shiki are so moe. |
gameoffreak8Aug 30, 2009 1:23 AM
| Tsundere and moe alarm this time^^ But definitely different than the previous parts. I missed the violence/psycho/disturbing-aspect of the KnK-movies (the scene after the credits doesn't count as it wasn't part of the main story). The story wasn't so great as the other times, too. It wasn't really a serious scenario, but more like a "part-time-job", like a filler. But it was still good. It was sometimes funny/moe and the story was still interesting. I give a 8/10 because of the entertainment-level. Now there's just one part left. Hope it will be really good^^ And I hope that the last part will focus on Shiki and Mikiya, and that they get a couple^^ |
| A fucking let down. |
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