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ad87 said: Wasabi said: Ugh looks like a TaigaxRyuuji is inevitable. That sucks ass. Still hoping TaigaxRyuuji would get ripped apart and a reverse plot twist and Ami or Minorin gets back into the picture. Well, i don't think its possible to break them apart, since episode 1 Ryuuji has been alwasy beside Taige and that make her felt wnated by someone aft years being alone...Thus, taiga see Ryuuji as special someone.... Ryuuji tooo seem to caring for taiga.... how couls you possibly break that strong bond,,,, BTW, I think minorin did have feelings for Ryuuji since its like hard for her to reject Ryuuji cause' in the end can see her hiding her face while rejecting Ryuuji (tying to avoid eye contact)... Anyway where can i read the manga version? I meant "break apart" as in remove the potential romantic intimate feelings. Ryuuji can easily hook up with either Ami or Minorin while still keeping Taiga close as a sister-type. |
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| NOOOO! I hoped for no-Taiga ending, but it's going to be the fact. Minorin made SELFOWN today. And why the hell Ami does not make a move? Only helps Ryuuji as older sister... |
| Holy shit definetly loved how taiga screamed ryuuji's name outside his apartment. I cried a bit like a girl. I was definetly expecting her to show some feelings towards him. 5/5 Fucking awesome ep D: |
| awww poor Takasu bear =/, got rejected but wow at Ami and Taiga singing and make-over and Taiga finally shows her real feelings =O, this is getting really good =D |
| Ami and Taiga were awesome! Ahhh when the ending song started it felt so inappropriate. Everyone is in despair, and all of the sudden a happy song plays. Whaaaa where's my happy ending??? |
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skyenix said: Ami and Taiga were awesome! Ahhh when the ending song started it felt so inappropriate. Everyone is in despair, and all of the sudden a happy song plays. Whaaaa where's my happy ending??? Well, it IS a christmas episode, though I think it gave a nice effect of Minori dumping Ryuuji, though. I still want Orange. : ( |
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| Well, there are still 6 episodes for Taiga to die. There is still chance for better ending. And who said Taiga was sexy? Crap, I've just completed CG R2 and character design in TD still makes me puke. |
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Antanaru said: Well, there are still 6 episodes for Taiga to die. There is still chance for better ending. And who said Taiga was sexy? Crap, I've just completed CG R2 and character design in TD still makes me puke. A troll will be always a troll. |
| I loved it, was almost crying by the end. Taiga being spun around was such a lovely wee happy moment. |
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Przemos19 said: NOOOO! I hoped for no-Taiga ending, but it's going to be the fact. Minorin made SELFOWN today. And why the hell Ami does not make a move? Only helps Ryuuji as older sister... Seriously, why doesn't she make a move. Well I think she kinda does, but Ryuuji doesn't listen to her. Damn I wanted a an Ami ending. But here I am making it seem like he had already chosen Taiga. There's still 6 eps left of Ami not trying I guess. Weird Episode, it's February and I just couldn't get into the Christmas spirit. But still enjoyed it. 5/5. I liked the scene of Taiga's crying, though I too hoped for a no-Taiga ending. |
vaberella said: soulelle said: Well, I disagree. If she was excluded, the show would lose a lot. Not only in terms of plot, but also in terms of its scent. Minori is a very vivid and comical character across the most part of the show and you can't easily remove her without affecting the general impression Toradora leaves on you. Moreover Minori is required to let us learn some important things in life: 1) how disturbed and depressed can an always smiling and cheering airhead feel deep inside 2) let us realize our blindness once we get a crush on someone. Minori exists in Toradora to let Ryuuji and Taiga understand the difference between their true feelings of love and feeling of getting a crush on somebody. Obviously you disagree and I can’t bring myself to agree with you. I don’t see Minorin as a vivid or comical character and I don’t seem to be the only one. Her supposed “comedy” is more annoying and weird than really comedic. She’s definitely no Haruhi Suzumiya, who had sense to her madness. I can completely remove her from the story because she does nothing for me when it comes to the show. She’s easily removable. I think I would have preferred that Ryuuji had a crush on Kihara, who I actually liked or even Ami as his crush. They have character….Actually I can honestly tell you Ami’s character would have carried the angst of the relationship far better if she replaced Minorin and making Minorin Ami’s role----as in third girl. But keep the characters the same. This is what I’m saying. I’m more into and connected I find with Ami. If Ami was removed…the show would really have a different impression on me. Minorin is whatever. 1) She’s two face…without any purpose and I just don’t wonder those questions when I see her. 2) What? I don’t see that AT ALL. Minorin doesn’t exist in that role because I found that it was Ami who was verbally stating the difference between crushes and romantic feelings. NOT Minorin. It was Ami was really delivering some crazy sound advice even if I disagreed at times with her on what is going on. That was far from Minorin. even though i think your idea of ami beeing takasu-kun's love interest is pretty cool i wouldn't want to miss minorin. especially not in the first half of the show where she made me laugh quite often. For me she was a great character to make the viewers get into the show. Ok, now she's more like a party pooper but that actually helps making the show more serious right? Anyway: there are 6 episodes left (somebody said the show could end right here: NO FUCKING WAY) - enough space to get something else going. that's what i hope at least. I mean... Ami is still at the party in the school right? Takasu-kun fainted in front of the school right?? Maybe Ami gets a chance to cheer him up??? Chance! Might be just me dreaming though >_> I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode... PS:Taiga with teddy bear and crying was pretty amazing PPS: I didn't like the christmas song PPPS: I like Ami and Taiga with normal hair and without lipstick more |
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| Oh boy. ;_; Lots of unexpected things in this episode. Never seems to surprise me, this anime. |
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| What an episode. It may be February, but I that Christmas song is catchy. I wouldn't mind it playing for the last 6 more episodes. I definitely like it better then the ending theme we had before. I was expecting the whole Taiga and Ryuuji pairing to be handled in a worse way, but everything was handled well. I even felt really sad to see Taiga crying like that. With Ryuuji being rejected like that, I guess Taiga is going to reject Kitamura now. With 6 episodes left, it seems almost anything could happen with all the characters. I hope everything ends in a good postie way. |
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Ryuukishi said: [...] It doesn't needm subs to explain that Kitamura is gay. <.< [...] My emphasis. You know, I've always thought of myself as rather insightful and quick to notice things... in this case the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. I'm actually rather hoping it's rather true. Nice episode overall. |
| This sucks. It's going on the direction of every romance anime out there. I had expected Toradora to go off the unbeaten path and actually had the characters go for their first expected love. Now it seems that I won't get what I expected. Sucks for generic plot. |
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| I love special song episode! It's still stuck in my head. It's to be expected that someone WILL be hurt in any love polygon stories. I think Toradora express it nicely, at least very unique, how these teenagers go through the events. Again I'm surprised how things turn out, although it's going to the initial anticipation: Taiga and Ryuuji as couple. I thought Minori was about to accept Taiga's kindness but she saw poor Taiga in front of her apartment. I mean, after all these times, how come Taiga still don't have a feeling for Ryuuji? Even the ferocious Te Nori Taiga can be deredere/lovestruck when you least expect it. Our main character IS a tsunderekko after all. Minori is much love, but I don't see her the type that's going out with a guy honestly. She's more of your sister figure who take care of friends, being looked up by her classmates, good at sports, etc. When she decided to reject Ryuuji, it's for everyone's sake including herself. The next episode preview is what seems to be our traditional happy-go-round Toradora. Angst be gone. Much looking forward to it!  |
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| Awww, Taiga is so cute on that dress *_________* Awww, Taiga and Ami's song was so cute ::: D Kitamura was little perv but still funny. I have to admit that it was little weird to watch Christmas episode in February, but the song was nice and whole episode too. And I laughed so hard when Ryuuji was knocking to Taiga's window XDDD And it was so cute that Taiga started to cry for Ryuuji, finally some Ryuuji x Taiga time. It's little sad that there is going to be only six episodes :'''( It would be nice to have some OVA or special for this. // saa CHRISTMAS, ippai no egao / ippai no negai <3_______<3 So nice part. That song will be stuck on my head for a really long time. And it was nice to have special ending :--------) |
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Heist said: The thing pop up in my head is Takasu wear a pedo bear suit X Loli-body Taiga.... Something must be definitely wrong with me... Dude that crossed my mind. I have a friend who wants those "4chan" sites and I showed him that he loves pedo-bear the nutter. ^_^ He has this special pedo-bear t-shirt. After I showed him the clip he suddenly got into the anime <---And he was a die hard hater. He'll probably only say he liked the pedobear. Guybrush said: even though i think your idea of ami beeing takasu-kun's love interest is pretty cool i wouldn't want to miss minorin. especially not in the first half of the show where she made me laugh quite often. For me she was a great character to make the viewers get into the show. Ok, now she's more like a party pooper but that actually helps making the show more serious right? Anyway: there are 6 episodes left (somebody said the show could end right here: NO FUCKING WAY) - enough space to get something else going. that's what i hope at least. I mean... Ami is still at the party in the school right? Takasu-kun fainted in front of the school right?? Maybe Ami gets a chance to cheer him up??? Chance! Might be just me dreaming though >_> I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode... PS:Taiga with teddy bear and crying was pretty amazing PPS: I didn't like the christmas song PPPS: I like Ami and Taiga with normal hair and without lipstick more As much as I have wished for Ami...I've given up on them too. I love Ami as well, definitely a fave who's on the ball and I'm glad she was in the show. However, at the same time I realize why they went, or are going, if they go the Taiga/Ryuuji route. Only because they've built up the strongest relationship on the show and Ami and Minorin's relationship with Ryuuji still needs work. I respect people who loved Minorin. I don't bash people who do since it's cool. People can like who they want. I just personally dislike the character due to major lack of development. I think most people assumed that when I was critical of the character in some way I was critical of them. Far from it. It's just I can't bring myself to like her because I think she's lacking. Now, by default it would imply that then something is wrong with the people who do like her even though she's not developed. That's not the case, considering there are people who find that she is nicely developed. She just doesn't meet my ceiling of what I consider developed. As for your first question. I don't see Minorin as making it more serious or angsty. To be honest I felt Kitamura and Ami were the kings of making things very serious. Angst wise we got that from Taiga and Ryuuji. She brings her own drama to the board and I won't deny that...however I just don't find them engaging but more frustrating. Do you mean is Ami still at the party towards the end and Ryuuji fainted in front of the school?! Yup and yup. She is, and I'm totally with you that I wouldn't mind her coming out and helping him up and caressing his hair and maybe a stolen kiss. Unlikely, but I'd totally support it. ^_^ PS. It was a good scene to watch although it made her look extra childish. I thought it was a very real moment which lead to even more realistic (as in humanistic) scenes from Taiga later on. PPS. I adore the X-mas song and plan on playing it at the next family X-mas event. Haitian people listening to Japanese...crazy (Wish my daddy was here). If he were here, I'd beg him to translate them for me so I could sing along the proper way no help from CG there. PPPS. Agreed. I also thought the black dress on Taiga was a bit dowdy although overall she looked lovely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alrighty....Now here is my review with a couple of other things. Hmmm....I was all ready to lambast CoalGuys subbing here. I've had problems with them before but man, I pissed with an exponent when I couldn't understand what Taiga or Ryuuji was saying while they were talking at the same time, or understand the music in the beginning. As a note, I love fan subbers. I love fans who take the time out to do this kind of work. Shoot, I'm one of them (for dramas) and I donate like mad to my fave fansubbing teams. That being said, CoalGuys, even for taking the time out are definitely not that considerate when at least 5-10 minutes of each episode is unreadable. However, because they managed to pull off the X-mas theme song I gave them kudos and didn't turn this review into a massive rant. 4.5 by 5 I definitely like this episode. Now I will first off say a few things, this is the first time I'm seeing it subbed so many of my conclusions which I never really proposed here didn't come to fruition and a lot of things made sense. Anyway, I'll knock this off by character and make it easy. I haven't done this sort of review since I watched SGA and it's been a long time since I've watched that show. Of course I'm sure my review would not be welcomed there, but apparently it was a rave with the SGA fanatics...But that's neither here nor there. Plus I'm adding a dislclaimer...which I also haven't done since SGA: The spoiler below is a long review. Don't read it if you can't handle more than 5 lines. It is not recommended since it is a detailed review of my impressions. For those who may be wondering why I give such long reviews and take things seriously. I come from a scifi sect of people that do that. I have gotten into paged review battles----meaning we've written at least 3-5 page reviews on one tv show episode. It's acceptable in my group and I haven't changed since a lot of the people publish theirs in scifi mags (I do not)...but those are the people I associate with. When you see my long reviews...just see it as that and move on if it's bothersome. All in all great ep and I liked it a great deal. |
vaberellaFeb 13, 2009 7:21 AM
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| I loved the episode. Looking forward to moar TaigaxRyuuji in the next episodes! :D |
| omg this episode was way too awesome. with the different ed and all it was perfectly. so they will make a taiga x ryuuji i suppose. with minorin rejecting him and taiga cry after him it is really clear. lets see if there will be some big twists until the end. but that scene was soo touching with taiga running out and screaming, or ryuuji in the costume of the bear. overall really a perfect episode. |
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| Ami seems pissed, Taiga realizes her true feelings for a fatherly Ryuuji lol, and Minorin sacrifices everything to look like an ass. Liked the part where Taiga was all creeped out at first when seeing pedobear. |
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| I like TaigaXRyuuji, wanted it right from the start, so I'm pretty pleased, and hope things lean towards the way I want it to be =P. Taiga running after Ryuuji was a bit surprising, but nicely done. ~Abs |
| ...and there a potentially great conclusion went down the drain. I hope they make something good out of the last six episodes, but I doubt it. :/ |
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WTFwasThat said: Ami seems pissed, Taiga realizes her true feelings for a fatherly Ryuuji lol, and Minorin sacrifices everything to look like an ass. Liked the part where Taiga was all creeped out at first when seeing pedobear. I guess I was slow on the uptake, but maybe Taigi does have an Electra Complex. Ami points it out, Ryuuji wears her dad's suit... And all this pedobear talk. Imagine if it wasn't Ryuuji in the suit. Parents should warn kids not to open their windows if any suspicious bears knock on them. |
| I really LOOOVED THIS EPISOOODE!!! Honestly, it was so perfect, it was so touching seeing Ryuuji hugging Taiga in that santa bear suit, it made my cry... And finally Taiga realized her feelings for Ryuuji!! It was so sad... I've waited for this since I started to watch Toradora... TAIGA X RYUUJI FOR EVER!!! TORADORA <33 |
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| This time around, I don't have any smart stuff left to say. I'm not the type who gets easily emotional, but i'm shocked and almost in tears. This is probably the first time when I just sit with my jaw dropped, and probably look like Taiga holding the scarf. Without further ado, Toradora is my new #1 anime. |
AkariChan said:  Somewhat, the plots are expected :3 Akari Chan, can I have this pic in higher resolution for a background? This was a very amazing episode as far as the series plays out, and a most interesting route to take it. Though it is cliche, this route probably is the quickest for development and keeping with the short arts(2-3 episodes a peice, if I'm counting). Suzuka did the opposite of this series, what most of you guys wanted Anyways, Taiga was just cute throughout, and I so just wanted to give her a hug(or a cookie) after she started crying! It's about time though that she wised up! Now if Ryuji would get a clue(though I believe he's starting to, as he was kinda indecisive for a second there). |
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| One word: Pedobear! Ahem...and I thought RyuujixMinorin was finally developing. It's a shame that RyuujixTaiga is almost inevitable now. This episode was funny, cute, and sweet, yet so sad. The only bad thing I can think of is that the final is pretty obvious now, if it wasn't already. On a side note, I'll love this show if they can bring Ryuuji and Ami together through a plot-twist. |
| Really loved this ep. The end is becoming a little predictable, but still love the story. Someone told the novel was beter than the anime and the manga, i have a hard time finding a site where i can read the novel can someone plz help me with that :) anyway, it was a great episode singing was great but the part with playing santa was funny like hell. |
| Good episode, but it way too early for this kind of episode if it really is going to be RyuujixTaiga. If this was the second or third to last episode then I would have said it was a lock, however, with six episodes left I'm still not sure at all. RyuujixTaiga is not convincing to me at all. I expect a last ditch effort Ami blitzkrieg and more Minorin emo-ness to come. |
| Great episode, and man was I right. I knew that Minori wanted to be with Takasu, but she didn't want to hurt Taiga, that's why she was being strange. Kinda pisses me off though, I always loved MinorixTakasu. |
gekkebever said: Check out Baka-Tsuki.Really loved this ep. The end is becoming a little predictable, but still love the story. Someone told the novel was beter than the anime and the manga, i have a hard time finding a site where i can read the novel can someone plz help me with that :) anyway, it was a great episode singing was great but the part with playing santa was funny like hell. ...and now that I think over again, I realized how much I hate this episode for deciding the outcome of the show. Waiting for an Ami or Minorin is just wishful thinking. |
le3ech said: It's not over -- !! Ryuuji tried to confess his feelings that night but Taiga 'rejected' him!! Why do you think she ran after him in despair? And Minorin rejected him -- !! I think Taiga is too proud to confess! And she is also a klutz when it comes to love -- So it's finally 'Ryuuji's' arc and who he really develops feelings for !! Eh?! How did you read that Taiga rejected him after he was trying to confess? Can you break that down? She ran after him for on easy reason. Taiga realized HER feelings for Ryuuji and wanted to confess. She's not shy about confessing and she wanted Ryuuji to herself. But there was no way Ryuuji was going to confess to her, he was going to stay with her but not confess from what I could see and Taiga definitely did not reject him. He had Minorin on the mind from the beginning of the ep until Ami reminded him of Taiga's issues and he ran after her. But you don't go from having a gift for Minorin and wearing a bear costume at the school waiting for another woman if he was going to confess to Minorin. Which I think he's done more than once. Taiga is too proud to confess?! Are you kidding? Go back to the Beach house ep, I believe ep 10 and she almost confessed then to him. She clearly said she felt the dream about her being the mother of his dogs to be foreshadowing . Why would she be too proud to confess? She is a klutz when it comes to a crush. When it comes to Ryuuji she's fairly clear. Go back to the ep where he was hurt in the pool competition episode. She's far from a klutz considering it was her who saved him. I thought the entire story was around Ryuuji since he's the main. I find that if he needed an arc and was getting one he had one when it came to Taiga's dad story because all that was dominated by Ryuuji. AS for his feelings...I find he has developed a crush on Minorin but will probably end up with Taiga but so far there's nothing to suggest his romantic feelings for Taiga but there is no denying he cares greatly for Taiga and is emotionally connected to her distress and will do what it takes to make her happy. Yet, he hasn't realized that as love though. |
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AkariChan said: An awesome idea! =) This episode was really beautiful. I suppose all 5 of them will stay friends in the end, no pairings. Though I wish Taiga and Ryuji were together in the end, because their story somehow reminds my own story. I was also relying on a man considering him just a friend, and now we're in love ^___^ |
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| This episode seriously made me want to cry manly tears, but my manlyness took over and kept myself from being a raging faggot.. Really good episode. Kinda rage worthy though. |
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| Okay, I just had to post to say... What is with the people who are so against RyuujixTaiga? It makes no sense to me. It's the most obvious pairing because it's the most realistic pairing, and to do something else just for the sake of doing something else (and no other reason besides, as far as I can tell) is not going to do the show any favors. Now, that aside, this was a beautiful episode. The party, Taiga's joy at seeing santa, her subconscious realization of what exactly she had done, Ryuuji's fainting... all wonderfully executed. I nearly cried when Taiga's tears began dropping. Even better is the fact that there's still five or six more episodes to go, so things aren't so clear-cut just yet. Really looking forward to more. |
Lulu-san said: Not everyone likes lumps of cliches and predictable plot so kindly shut up.A troll will be always a troll. |
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| I think Ami looked the best in this episode, Taiga was a close second. Ryuuji looked like Kitano from Angel Densetsu in his suit. Kinda saw this coming for awhile, but sad to see Minorin have to sacrifice her own heart. Although, plenty of show left so who knows what they'll throw our way... |
DaBigD said: One word: Pedobear! This. Also, saa xmas. |
逃げちゃ駄目だ。 |
| I had to pause and laugh when they started singing. It's the first time this show has done anything so stupid that I had to do that. EDIT: Finished the episode; I guess I saw that coming, but it ended up making things a lot more complicated. |
GrmoFeb 13, 2009 12:04 PM
Lulu-san said: Antanaru said: Well, there are still 6 episodes for Taiga to die. There is still chance for better ending. And who said Taiga was sexy? Crap, I've just completed CG R2 and character design in TD still makes me puke. A troll will be always a troll. Just because someone have a different opinion than the most, or most likely to say, than YOU, it doesn't make him/her a troll... saying that you just made a so called "troll" of yourself. Congrats. And so to not make it an offtop: I didn't like that episode, too. The part with the singing was totaly out of the picture, just like entire 13th episode. And those gross haircuts... But, of course, the most horrifing was the episode's final... man, really, either they are slowly telling us to don't have high hopes, or want to make a huge surprise in the end. Let's hope for the latter. |
| Haircuts were groos, but song was really good. |
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