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vaberella said: First off there is no understanding as to why she acts like a goofball. Sure in some instances like in episode 2 or so we see how she acts under pressure. But if we're talking about her sillyness and scattiness I don't see an explanation. I'm speaking about scattiness in the sense of custard in a bucket not in her behaviour in the last couple of episodes. ... I still find her actions irrelevant to the thing. I never find most of her actions as relevant because there was so much information that I found definitive enough to see that things clearly that her looking for something more for her self is just not necessary. well, there's a basic and easy explanation to that: Minorin is Minorin. Her sillyness is just a part of her airheaded personality. And I know people of the same personality in the real world.. Moreoever, sometimes even I find my own actions to be irrelevant to my surroundings ^^ I can't understand myself if this happens.. though it's very rare for me to behave this way.. but once again, it happens and there's nothing I can do bout it. So there's no need to understand Minori, just accept her character as it is. vaberella said: To tell you the truth...I felt that Minorin was and is the most under developed character on the show. She's fluff and was supposed to do someting be a fulfilling protaganist of sorts but unfortunately for her it was Ami who took up that role more powerfully. Minorin was more of a conundrum of silliness. Seriously if she was removed it would do nothing for the story for me. All I saw her as was Ryuuji's interest and that was it because I saw nothing really developed around her properly. She was included in arc developments but nothing substantial. Even though this arc should have been around her more, I learned more about Taiga, Ryuuji's feelings towards her (not the other way round), and Ami. Well, I disagree. If she was excluded, the show would lose a lot. Not only in terms of plot, but also in terms of its scent. Minori is a very vivid and comical character across the most part of the show and you can't easily remove her without affecting the general impression Toradora leaves on you. Moreover Minori is required to let us learn some important things in life: 1) how disturbed and depressed can an always smiling and cheering airhead feel deep inside 2) let us realize our blindness once we get a crush on someone. Minori exists in Toradora to let Ryuuji and Taiga understand the difference between their true feelings of love and feeling of getting a crush on somebody. mcjazzman32 said: Oh how I loved this episode. Taiga breaking down without knowing why. Her unconsciously smelling his scarf. The santa scene where she jumps up and down. *Sigh. i soooo much agree it was suuuuch a lovely scene... my emotion level went to its full extent... and that "Rjuuuuuuujiiiiiiiii!!!" makes me cry no matter what time I rewatch it.. seriously.. once I see Taiga's tears on Ryuuji's scarf I start feeling tears on my own face... |
soulelleFeb 12, 2009 2:50 AM
vaberella said: dbaranyi said: I had real problems with the writing in this episode. There were too many coincidences used to drive the plot, and I can't stand plots that are driven by coincidence. There was a lot of lazy writing here, and that's too bad. The problem with the episodes towards the end I have to say is to do with compression. The compression of the storyline. Without spoiling you...well really I can't because the anime people spoil all the novel/manga readers anyway. In any event, just read the novel...the story, in particular Ryuuji/Taiga's relationship is developed differently in my book and the detail is amazing. The anime is real crap to the novel in my eyes, this goes also for the manga being crap compared to the novel. The novel definitely gives you a different and better perspective. My attitude is that if I have to "read the novel" then the creative team behind the anime has failed in a big way. Film doesn't have to be the "poor step-sister" to literature, and it is disappointing when the writers behind a film adapation allow that to happen. |
dbaranyiFeb 12, 2009 2:32 PM
| I so had to watch the RAW, angst got the better of me, plus i wanted to see the fuss was about with Taiga. Though i will watch it again when the fansubs out |
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| Geez vabrella what's wrong with you, you take everything so serious. Why don't you just relax and discuss the episode :/ oh wait, i forgot, you never listen. |
id said: Geez vabrella what's wrong with you, you take everything so serious. Why don't you just relax and discuss the episode :/ oh wait, i forgot, you never listen. lolcakes |
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dbaranyi said: My attitude is that if I have to "read the novel" then the creative team behind the anime has failed in a big way. Film doesn't not have to be the "poor step-sister" to literature, and it is disappointing when the writers behind a film adapation allow that to happen. yeah for double negative ^^ Waiting to watch the subs when they come out. Or did they already come out? Haven't checked yet lol |
dbaranyi said: vaberella said: dbaranyi said: I had real problems with the writing in this episode. There were too many coincidences used to drive the plot, and I can't stand plots that are driven by coincidence. There was a lot of lazy writing here, and that's too bad. The problem with the episodes towards the end I have to say is to do with compression. The compression of the storyline. Without spoiling you...well really I can't because the anime people spoil all the novel/manga readers anyway. In any event, just read the novel...the story, in particular Ryuuji/Taiga's relationship is developed differently in my book and the detail is amazing. The anime is real crap to the novel in my eyes, this goes also for the manga being crap compared to the novel. The novel definitely gives you a different and better perspective. My attitude is that if I have to "read the novel" then the creative team behind the anime has failed in a big way. Film doesn't not have to be the "poor step-sister" to literature, and it is disappointing when the writers behind a film adapation allow that to happen. Actually it always is. Films have always failed in portraying the book...this is a norm. I can list film after film after film that has miserably failed where the book was a success. In the case of Bourne Identity it actually did better than the book since it just took the title and the actor and everything else was completely changed. But when you're basing anything on what's going on the book----the book is always going to win out and I wouldn't expect it any differently. Why? The book is able to delve into thoughts behind the characters and the meaning in their expressions and actions more clearly. The film or anime..and it's really the anime. Because animes can never really get the expression down that a human probably can; when displaying a thought. So irrespective to whatever you might think, the anime will never be able to shine where the manga has. Especially considering they're turning massive chapters with plenty of dialogue into 30 minutes. You only get a 1/3 of the chapter per episode. soulelle said: well, there's a basic and easy explanation to that: Minorin is Minorin. Her sillyness is just a part of her airheaded personality. And I know people of the same personality in the real world.. Moreoever, sometimes even I find my own actions to be irrelevant to my surroundings ^^ I can't understand myself if this happens.. though it's very rare for me to behave this way.. but once again, it happens and there's nothing I can do bout it. So there's no need to understand Minori, just accept her character as it is. See this is ultimately the problem. Minorin is not Minorin because I don’t know who Minorin is. She is not a defined character for me to say…well Minorin is Minorin. I can’t even say that about Kitamura. Taiga, Ami, Ryuuji even Inko-chan sure thing. But Minorin is not. Her silliness is broken and can be seen as a front. Go to episode 4 when her and Ryuuji got stuck in the shed and we come to find out that Minorin was using her attitude to hide her fear. Or go to the scene where she was talking to Ryuuji about Taiga but set up the entire situation. The problem is…the writers gave this indication she’s more insightful but she’s as fake as Ami was. However, they tried to play off as though she was NEVER fake. This is the problem. Ami was directly made out to be a fake. She had this personality which was really hiding her true nature because of what she wanted people to believe. However, for the average viewer…Minorin wasn’t fake. She didn’t have double personalities but from what I can see when I rewatch ep after ep Minorin is a fake character----added to that you don’t get the many reasons why. Secondly…please don’t compare the human experience to the plight of the character. In the novel Third. Please please don’t say that I need to accept the character as is. Because she’s better in other places than here. We see all the time people complaining about Minorin. soulelle said: Well, I disagree. If she was excluded, the show would lose a lot. Not only in terms of plot, but also in terms of its scent. Minori is a very vivid and comical character across the most part of the show and you can't easily remove her without affecting the general impression Toradora leaves on you. Moreover Minori is required to let us learn some important things in life: 1) how disturbed and depressed can an always smiling and cheering airhead feel deep inside 2) let us realize our blindness once we get a crush on someone. Minori exists in Toradora to let Ryuuji and Taiga understand the difference between their true feelings of love and feeling of getting a crush on somebody. Obviously you disagree and I can’t bring myself to agree with you. I don’t see Minorin as a vivid or comical character and I don’t seem to be the only one. Her supposed “comedy” is more annoying and weird than really comedic. She’s definitely no Haruhi Suzumiya, who had sense to her madness. I can completely remove her from the story because she does nothing for me when it comes to the show. She’s easily removable. I think I would have preferred that Ryuuji had a crush on Kihara, who I actually liked or even Ami as his crush. They have character….Actually I can honestly tell you Ami’s character would have carried the angst of the relationship far better if she replaced Minorin and making Minorin Ami’s role----as in third girl. But keep the characters the same. This is what I’m saying. I’m more into and connected I find with Ami. If Ami was removed…the show would really have a different impression on me. Minorin is whatever. 1) She’s two face…without any purpose and I just don’t wonder those questions when I see her. 2) What? I don’t see that AT ALL. Minorin doesn’t exist in that role because I found that it was Ami who was verbally stating the difference between crushes and romantic feelings. NOT Minorin. It was Ami was really delivering some crazy sound advice even if I disagreed at times with her on what is going on. That was far from Minorin. id said: Geez vabrella what's wrong with you, you take everything so serious. Why don't you just relax and discuss the episode :/ oh wait, i forgot, you never listen. EPIC FAIL and moving on.... |
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vaberella said: ... Really I figured it was Ryuuji when I was talking to ironchefflip in Episode 18 thread. ... Noted and bolded, I feel honored. Anyway, episode was alright, but it's weird to hear xmas themed music in February. And then I guess from here on out it's down to the nitty gritty of Taiga x Ryuuji and how they end up. Not the ending I wanted, but as long as it's well written and executed, I'll be pleased. I think Ami, Minorin and Kitamura should just form a drinking club since they all can't be with the one they like for one reason or another. Sensei can join them too since she's alone. Actually, it seems like more people from class can join that club as it seems no one is getting together except Taiga and Ryuuji. |
ironchefflip said: vaberella said: ... Really I figured it was Ryuuji when I was talking to ironchefflip in Episode 18 thread. ... Noted and bolded, I feel honored. Anyway, episode was alright, but it's weird to hear xmas themed music in February. And then I guess from here on out it's down to the nitty gritty of Taiga x Ryuuji and how they end up. Not the ending I wanted, but as long as it's well written and executed, I'll be pleased. I think Ami, Minorin and Kitamura should just form a drinking club since they all can't be with the one they like for one reason or another. Sensei can join them too since she's alone. Actually, it seems like more people from class can join that club as it seems no one is getting together except Taiga and Ryuuji. With Ya-Chan leading the pack and making the drinks. ROFL...ugh I'm cracking myself up with the image. I have always said when there are a pack of drunk ladies there is a lot of ass spanking and titty grabbing (poor Ya-chan, she could hook up with the Teach). LOL. Or that could be my parties...I think we're all closet Lesbians. ^_^ De nada, you made a great point in your statement and I liked it..since it was a strong possibility as well. I loved hearing the X-mas music....I want that song so much it was so good. ^_^ I haven't seen the thing in full (meaning with some subs). I want to sing along. ^_^ Oooh...Ryuuji with slick hair and a red shirt....Yummm...ugh I'd totally do him with the shirt and gel on. ^_^ **As a note me love your avatar...looks like a crazy Ya-chan. |
vaberellaFeb 12, 2009 2:44 PM
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| i love the part where Taiga kept calling Ryuuji's name out while Minori saw it. I wish subs could be out soon. Also, I hope the ED won't be permanent. I miss Orange. ;; Though the ED song was catchy all the same. EDIT: I watched the subs (Someone from youtube subbed it.) It doesn't needm subs to explain that Kitamura is gay. <.< Also, I love the Ending, where Ryuuji got dumped by Minori, Although I'm still a Minori x Ryuuji fan, I love the effect this has given Ryuuji. can;t wait for the next ep ! |
underMebiusFeb 12, 2009 10:37 PM
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| Ugh looks like a TaigaxRyuuji is inevitable. That sucks ass. Still hoping TaigaxRyuuji would get ripped apart and a reverse plot twist and Ami or Minorin gets back into the picture. |
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| Even though I still really enjoyed this episode, it was a big blow for me. The inevitability. oh well, let's see how well these last 6 episodes go. |
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| well.. besidde some of the downy mood here's something that will cheer up some of people =D (masterpiece picture XD) hope you gurls like this one XDD |
| I almost cried at Taiga realizing her feelings and calling for Ryuuji. Moe Taiga! *tears up* Again, I noticed Ryuuji blushing when his mom was putting the perfume on Taiga. Yay! And yes, Ryuuji was hawt. Actually, it seems like more people from class can join that club as it seems no one is getting together except Taiga and Ryuuji. Is this a bad thing or a good thing? I usually dislike it when manga/anime/stories in general have to pair up every single character together. It's very unbelievable. One or two pairs is good enough for me. |
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AznSensation said: well.. besidde some of the downy mood here's something that will cheer up some of people =D (masterpiece picture XD) hope you gurls like this one XDD once again, i'll say it again. i think kitamura is gay. I mean, he went as a shirtless santa? |
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| Since Ami is not taken seriously in this show (at least Ryuuji doesn't take her seriously), and Minorin rejected him, this is over. I mean, it had some possibility for not having TaigaxRyuuji (although small) in the end, but after this episode, it has all been done. This could have easily been episode 23,24, because it concludes everything... Guess from now on we will see Ami falling in love with Kitamura and Minorin, well, I don't know, someone new will come or she will move to other town... |
Ryuukishi said: i think kitamura is gay. I mean, he went as a shirtless santa? And he loves the girl who acts the more like a guy in the whole show. Did anyone notice the similarity between the teacher and Minori, in terms of personality and character design ? Yuri looks like a "possible future Minori". So maybe they'll have a chat later on : I don't remember them talking together. At this point I'd rather see a "no pairing end" than a "Taiga/Ryuugi end". |
| Wow, now that was a great episode. It made me laugh but at the same time it was very touching. The contrast between the happiness in the scene where Ryuuji is disguised as Santa, and then the sadness in the one with Taiga crying, was very well done. It adds to the emotional impact I guess. |
| And it was just ever so close to being Ryuuji x Minori. Talk about dream crushed. |
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ad87 said: Wasabi said: Ugh looks like a TaigaxRyuuji is inevitable. That sucks ass. Still hoping TaigaxRyuuji would get ripped apart and a reverse plot twist and Ami or Minorin gets back into the picture. Well, i don't think its possible to break them apart, since episode 1 Ryuuji has been alwasy beside Taige and that make her felt wnated by someone aft years being alone...Thus, taiga see Ryuuji as special someone.... Ryuuji tooo seem to caring for taiga.... how couls you possibly break that strong bond,,,, BTW, I think minorin did have feelings for Ryuuji since its like hard for her to reject Ryuuji cause' in the end can see her hiding her face while rejecting Ryuuji (tying to avoid eye contact)... Anyway where can i read the manga version? I meant "break apart" as in remove the potential romantic intimate feelings. Ryuuji can easily hook up with either Ami or Minorin while still keeping Taiga close as a sister-type. |
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| NOOOO! I hoped for no-Taiga ending, but it's going to be the fact. Minorin made SELFOWN today. And why the hell Ami does not make a move? Only helps Ryuuji as older sister... |
| Holy shit definetly loved how taiga screamed ryuuji's name outside his apartment. I cried a bit like a girl. I was definetly expecting her to show some feelings towards him. 5/5 Fucking awesome ep D: |
| awww poor Takasu bear =/, got rejected but wow at Ami and Taiga singing and make-over and Taiga finally shows her real feelings =O, this is getting really good =D |
| Ami and Taiga were awesome! Ahhh when the ending song started it felt so inappropriate. Everyone is in despair, and all of the sudden a happy song plays. Whaaaa where's my happy ending??? |
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skyenix said: Ami and Taiga were awesome! Ahhh when the ending song started it felt so inappropriate. Everyone is in despair, and all of the sudden a happy song plays. Whaaaa where's my happy ending??? Well, it IS a christmas episode, though I think it gave a nice effect of Minori dumping Ryuuji, though. I still want Orange. : ( |
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| Well, there are still 6 episodes for Taiga to die. There is still chance for better ending. And who said Taiga was sexy? Crap, I've just completed CG R2 and character design in TD still makes me puke. |
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Antanaru said: Well, there are still 6 episodes for Taiga to die. There is still chance for better ending. And who said Taiga was sexy? Crap, I've just completed CG R2 and character design in TD still makes me puke. A troll will be always a troll. |
| I loved it, was almost crying by the end. Taiga being spun around was such a lovely wee happy moment. |
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Przemos19 said: NOOOO! I hoped for no-Taiga ending, but it's going to be the fact. Minorin made SELFOWN today. And why the hell Ami does not make a move? Only helps Ryuuji as older sister... Seriously, why doesn't she make a move. Well I think she kinda does, but Ryuuji doesn't listen to her. Damn I wanted a an Ami ending. But here I am making it seem like he had already chosen Taiga. There's still 6 eps left of Ami not trying I guess. Weird Episode, it's February and I just couldn't get into the Christmas spirit. But still enjoyed it. 5/5. I liked the scene of Taiga's crying, though I too hoped for a no-Taiga ending. |
vaberella said: soulelle said: Well, I disagree. If she was excluded, the show would lose a lot. Not only in terms of plot, but also in terms of its scent. Minori is a very vivid and comical character across the most part of the show and you can't easily remove her without affecting the general impression Toradora leaves on you. Moreover Minori is required to let us learn some important things in life: 1) how disturbed and depressed can an always smiling and cheering airhead feel deep inside 2) let us realize our blindness once we get a crush on someone. Minori exists in Toradora to let Ryuuji and Taiga understand the difference between their true feelings of love and feeling of getting a crush on somebody. Obviously you disagree and I can’t bring myself to agree with you. I don’t see Minorin as a vivid or comical character and I don’t seem to be the only one. Her supposed “comedy” is more annoying and weird than really comedic. She’s definitely no Haruhi Suzumiya, who had sense to her madness. I can completely remove her from the story because she does nothing for me when it comes to the show. She’s easily removable. I think I would have preferred that Ryuuji had a crush on Kihara, who I actually liked or even Ami as his crush. They have character….Actually I can honestly tell you Ami’s character would have carried the angst of the relationship far better if she replaced Minorin and making Minorin Ami’s role----as in third girl. But keep the characters the same. This is what I’m saying. I’m more into and connected I find with Ami. If Ami was removed…the show would really have a different impression on me. Minorin is whatever. 1) She’s two face…without any purpose and I just don’t wonder those questions when I see her. 2) What? I don’t see that AT ALL. Minorin doesn’t exist in that role because I found that it was Ami who was verbally stating the difference between crushes and romantic feelings. NOT Minorin. It was Ami was really delivering some crazy sound advice even if I disagreed at times with her on what is going on. That was far from Minorin. even though i think your idea of ami beeing takasu-kun's love interest is pretty cool i wouldn't want to miss minorin. especially not in the first half of the show where she made me laugh quite often. For me she was a great character to make the viewers get into the show. Ok, now she's more like a party pooper but that actually helps making the show more serious right? Anyway: there are 6 episodes left (somebody said the show could end right here: NO FUCKING WAY) - enough space to get something else going. that's what i hope at least. I mean... Ami is still at the party in the school right? Takasu-kun fainted in front of the school right?? Maybe Ami gets a chance to cheer him up??? Chance! Might be just me dreaming though >_> I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode... PS:Taiga with teddy bear and crying was pretty amazing PPS: I didn't like the christmas song PPPS: I like Ami and Taiga with normal hair and without lipstick more |
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| Oh boy. ;_; Lots of unexpected things in this episode. Never seems to surprise me, this anime. |
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| What an episode. It may be February, but I that Christmas song is catchy. I wouldn't mind it playing for the last 6 more episodes. I definitely like it better then the ending theme we had before. I was expecting the whole Taiga and Ryuuji pairing to be handled in a worse way, but everything was handled well. I even felt really sad to see Taiga crying like that. With Ryuuji being rejected like that, I guess Taiga is going to reject Kitamura now. With 6 episodes left, it seems almost anything could happen with all the characters. I hope everything ends in a good postie way. |
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Ryuukishi said: [...] It doesn't needm subs to explain that Kitamura is gay. <.< [...] My emphasis. You know, I've always thought of myself as rather insightful and quick to notice things... in this case the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. I'm actually rather hoping it's rather true. Nice episode overall. |
| This sucks. It's going on the direction of every romance anime out there. I had expected Toradora to go off the unbeaten path and actually had the characters go for their first expected love. Now it seems that I won't get what I expected. Sucks for generic plot. |
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| I love special song episode! It's still stuck in my head. It's to be expected that someone WILL be hurt in any love polygon stories. I think Toradora express it nicely, at least very unique, how these teenagers go through the events. Again I'm surprised how things turn out, although it's going to the initial anticipation: Taiga and Ryuuji as couple. I thought Minori was about to accept Taiga's kindness but she saw poor Taiga in front of her apartment. I mean, after all these times, how come Taiga still don't have a feeling for Ryuuji? Even the ferocious Te Nori Taiga can be deredere/lovestruck when you least expect it. Our main character IS a tsunderekko after all. Minori is much love, but I don't see her the type that's going out with a guy honestly. She's more of your sister figure who take care of friends, being looked up by her classmates, good at sports, etc. When she decided to reject Ryuuji, it's for everyone's sake including herself. The next episode preview is what seems to be our traditional happy-go-round Toradora. Angst be gone. Much looking forward to it!  |
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| Awww, Taiga is so cute on that dress *_________* Awww, Taiga and Ami's song was so cute ::: D Kitamura was little perv but still funny. I have to admit that it was little weird to watch Christmas episode in February, but the song was nice and whole episode too. And I laughed so hard when Ryuuji was knocking to Taiga's window XDDD And it was so cute that Taiga started to cry for Ryuuji, finally some Ryuuji x Taiga time. It's little sad that there is going to be only six episodes :'''( It would be nice to have some OVA or special for this. // saa CHRISTMAS, ippai no egao / ippai no negai <3_______<3 So nice part. That song will be stuck on my head for a really long time. And it was nice to have special ending :--------) |
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Heist said: The thing pop up in my head is Takasu wear a pedo bear suit X Loli-body Taiga.... Something must be definitely wrong with me... Dude that crossed my mind. I have a friend who wants those "4chan" sites and I showed him that he loves pedo-bear the nutter. ^_^ He has this special pedo-bear t-shirt. After I showed him the clip he suddenly got into the anime <---And he was a die hard hater. He'll probably only say he liked the pedobear. Guybrush said: even though i think your idea of ami beeing takasu-kun's love interest is pretty cool i wouldn't want to miss minorin. especially not in the first half of the show where she made me laugh quite often. For me she was a great character to make the viewers get into the show. Ok, now she's more like a party pooper but that actually helps making the show more serious right? Anyway: there are 6 episodes left (somebody said the show could end right here: NO FUCKING WAY) - enough space to get something else going. that's what i hope at least. I mean... Ami is still at the party in the school right? Takasu-kun fainted in front of the school right?? Maybe Ami gets a chance to cheer him up??? Chance! Might be just me dreaming though >_> I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode... PS:Taiga with teddy bear and crying was pretty amazing PPS: I didn't like the christmas song PPPS: I like Ami and Taiga with normal hair and without lipstick more As much as I have wished for Ami...I've given up on them too. I love Ami as well, definitely a fave who's on the ball and I'm glad she was in the show. However, at the same time I realize why they went, or are going, if they go the Taiga/Ryuuji route. Only because they've built up the strongest relationship on the show and Ami and Minorin's relationship with Ryuuji still needs work. I respect people who loved Minorin. I don't bash people who do since it's cool. People can like who they want. I just personally dislike the character due to major lack of development. I think most people assumed that when I was critical of the character in some way I was critical of them. Far from it. It's just I can't bring myself to like her because I think she's lacking. Now, by default it would imply that then something is wrong with the people who do like her even though she's not developed. That's not the case, considering there are people who find that she is nicely developed. She just doesn't meet my ceiling of what I consider developed. As for your first question. I don't see Minorin as making it more serious or angsty. To be honest I felt Kitamura and Ami were the kings of making things very serious. Angst wise we got that from Taiga and Ryuuji. She brings her own drama to the board and I won't deny that...however I just don't find them engaging but more frustrating. Do you mean is Ami still at the party towards the end and Ryuuji fainted in front of the school?! Yup and yup. She is, and I'm totally with you that I wouldn't mind her coming out and helping him up and caressing his hair and maybe a stolen kiss. Unlikely, but I'd totally support it. ^_^ PS. It was a good scene to watch although it made her look extra childish. I thought it was a very real moment which lead to even more realistic (as in humanistic) scenes from Taiga later on. PPS. I adore the X-mas song and plan on playing it at the next family X-mas event. Haitian people listening to Japanese...crazy (Wish my daddy was here). If he were here, I'd beg him to translate them for me so I could sing along the proper way no help from CG there. PPPS. Agreed. I also thought the black dress on Taiga was a bit dowdy although overall she looked lovely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alrighty....Now here is my review with a couple of other things. Hmmm....I was all ready to lambast CoalGuys subbing here. I've had problems with them before but man, I pissed with an exponent when I couldn't understand what Taiga or Ryuuji was saying while they were talking at the same time, or understand the music in the beginning. As a note, I love fan subbers. I love fans who take the time out to do this kind of work. Shoot, I'm one of them (for dramas) and I donate like mad to my fave fansubbing teams. That being said, CoalGuys, even for taking the time out are definitely not that considerate when at least 5-10 minutes of each episode is unreadable. However, because they managed to pull off the X-mas theme song I gave them kudos and didn't turn this review into a massive rant. 4.5 by 5 I definitely like this episode. Now I will first off say a few things, this is the first time I'm seeing it subbed so many of my conclusions which I never really proposed here didn't come to fruition and a lot of things made sense. Anyway, I'll knock this off by character and make it easy. I haven't done this sort of review since I watched SGA and it's been a long time since I've watched that show. Of course I'm sure my review would not be welcomed there, but apparently it was a rave with the SGA fanatics...But that's neither here nor there. Plus I'm adding a dislclaimer...which I also haven't done since SGA: The spoiler below is a long review. Don't read it if you can't handle more than 5 lines. It is not recommended since it is a detailed review of my impressions. For those who may be wondering why I give such long reviews and take things seriously. I come from a scifi sect of people that do that. I have gotten into paged review battles----meaning we've written at least 3-5 page reviews on one tv show episode. It's acceptable in my group and I haven't changed since a lot of the people publish theirs in scifi mags (I do not)...but those are the people I associate with. When you see my long reviews...just see it as that and move on if it's bothersome. All in all great ep and I liked it a great deal. |
vaberellaFeb 13, 2009 7:21 AM
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| I loved the episode. Looking forward to moar TaigaxRyuuji in the next episodes! :D |
| omg this episode was way too awesome. with the different ed and all it was perfectly. so they will make a taiga x ryuuji i suppose. with minorin rejecting him and taiga cry after him it is really clear. lets see if there will be some big twists until the end. but that scene was soo touching with taiga running out and screaming, or ryuuji in the costume of the bear. overall really a perfect episode. |
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| Ami seems pissed, Taiga realizes her true feelings for a fatherly Ryuuji lol, and Minorin sacrifices everything to look like an ass. Liked the part where Taiga was all creeped out at first when seeing pedobear. |
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| I like TaigaXRyuuji, wanted it right from the start, so I'm pretty pleased, and hope things lean towards the way I want it to be =P. Taiga running after Ryuuji was a bit surprising, but nicely done. ~Abs |
| ...and there a potentially great conclusion went down the drain. I hope they make something good out of the last six episodes, but I doubt it. :/ |
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WTFwasThat said: Ami seems pissed, Taiga realizes her true feelings for a fatherly Ryuuji lol, and Minorin sacrifices everything to look like an ass. Liked the part where Taiga was all creeped out at first when seeing pedobear. I guess I was slow on the uptake, but maybe Taigi does have an Electra Complex. Ami points it out, Ryuuji wears her dad's suit... And all this pedobear talk. Imagine if it wasn't Ryuuji in the suit. Parents should warn kids not to open their windows if any suspicious bears knock on them. |
| I really LOOOVED THIS EPISOOODE!!! Honestly, it was so perfect, it was so touching seeing Ryuuji hugging Taiga in that santa bear suit, it made my cry... And finally Taiga realized her feelings for Ryuuji!! It was so sad... I've waited for this since I started to watch Toradora... TAIGA X RYUUJI FOR EVER!!! TORADORA <33 |
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| This time around, I don't have any smart stuff left to say. I'm not the type who gets easily emotional, but i'm shocked and almost in tears. This is probably the first time when I just sit with my jaw dropped, and probably look like Taiga holding the scarf. Without further ado, Toradora is my new #1 anime. |
AkariChan said:  Somewhat, the plots are expected :3 Akari Chan, can I have this pic in higher resolution for a background? This was a very amazing episode as far as the series plays out, and a most interesting route to take it. Though it is cliche, this route probably is the quickest for development and keeping with the short arts(2-3 episodes a peice, if I'm counting). Suzuka did the opposite of this series, what most of you guys wanted Anyways, Taiga was just cute throughout, and I so just wanted to give her a hug(or a cookie) after she started crying! It's about time though that she wised up! Now if Ryuji would get a clue(though I believe he's starting to, as he was kinda indecisive for a second there). |
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