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*palms face* how exactly would him dying go against him being the ultimate coordinator?

hmm I just finished with seed and destiny, and was a little bit upset about the (OVA) ending of destiny. Don't get me wrong, I think seed is a good anime as is destiny until a certain moment but what's with ending of destiny? It was exactly the same as that of seed... -_-'

And about the movie, is there anymore info about it except for the name? Because you people are talking about the movie as if it is going to be some kind of continuation of the series, are there any official source ...

ok ok i see what everyone is saying and i do in fact agree with some of the things said, but however i totally disagree with the whole killing kira, i agree that killing kira off would just make no logical sense at all! cuz in case u ppl are forgettting he is THE ultimate coordinator so in what right mind would killing the ULTIMATE being be logical? i mean the show(SEED) is pretty much based on how there was an ultimate coordinator who pretty much surpassed everything and was the only one last perfect 'being' of dr. hibikis expirement that survived! so how would killing off the one being make sense? if they did that the whole back plot would be completely and utterly useless not to mention pointless no? so in turn the whole series would be ruined cuz of that seeing as they pretty much revolved everything around that the evolution of coordinators and so on..

now as for destiny again i agree and disagree with some post but again killing him off in this would just lead me back to the previously stated so no it would completely stupid to kill him and the people close to him off (i have a reason but im too lazy to type it, anyway not like the answer isnt apparent in the show >_>)
as for character development hmm im on the fence on this because i can see why ppl say this as well as i agree with some characs. not having any.

Like Athrun ..seriously i really dont know what the heck happend to him in destiny but he was(for me) pretty much useless almost the enitre series..a complete lost dumbass i dont know why they decided that and as well as their whole reason for athrun doing what he did was him thinking that it would help orb well that was complete balony ..that (to me) was an entirely poor reasoning for his actions and decisions but i duno they released a destiny .2 version with few extra episodes recaping the show through athruns point of view so maybe it makes sense there but idk i havent watched it yet so who knows..

as for Kira well he was just somber and pensive thoughout the whole show (DESTINY) idk if it counts as character development though but it makes sense to me, because he was fighting a war/battle that he never wanted to fight in the first place, he never wanted to go back, he didnt want to ever fight again yet there he was doing it all over again, fighting because he had to not because he wanted to fight, the only reason he went back in the first place was so that he could protect lacus and help cagalli, so he pretty much felt like he needed to fight, he felt obligated to do so otherwise he wouldnt have gone back to the lines at all!

anywho i for one am looking forward to the movie, though i do hope(if this is a wrap up to the entire series) they ended up off nicely and thoroughly, with explicit and sensical wrap ups to each of the loose ends, and without any killings off of K,C,A, or L! absolutely none of the 'big 4' (as some called them) plus a few extra can die if they do that would ruin it completely and i will be so pissed this show will be dead to me DEAD i say! - ok now aside from that point if that doesnt happen they need to have a well thought out script ending off everything correctly; loose ends, relationships, character development and so on/ etc.. so it will all nicely finish off then i'll be happy..secretly though i hope it ends with kira&lacus's wedding hehe and maybe athrun and cagallis too but if not then if they all end up together happy with their pairs thats fine too ^__^ lol

@ someone...i heard that too, that kira goes nuts after he hears lacus was killed and that cagalli was kidnapped, and that athrun was a general in orbs army..i think they called it gundam seed eternity.. i heard it too awhile back - i went nuts when i heard this i swear my eyes nearly boggled outta my head when i read this almost had a heart attack lol but THANK GOD its not true, least i hope it isnt cuz then aaaaaaaaaaah! no! it cant happen! i would just die if it was T_T

Killing Kira, would be wrong... he cant be killed, and i would be upset :P
ANYWAYS this movie comes out NEXT year 2009...
thats all we know at the moment..

Since when does being the ultimate coordinator make you the ultimate being? All it means is that none of his manipulated genes mixed with his mother's genes while in the womb (cosmic era science and all). As far as piloting goes I'd say Athrun is clearly better, considering he's undefeated in SEED mode and managed to trash Shinn without killing him, whereas Kira never had a decisive victory. And as far as evolution goes, Fukuda confirmed that Al and Mwu La Flaga (and any of their clones) are the only newtypes in cosmic era, which is a result of actual evolution.


Actually for the most part Athrun was right, he was just way to confused/moped around too much to be of any use. He chose to fight for ZAFT because was simply defending itself, the side material states that Durandal wasn't even considering the Destiny Plan until he arrived on Earth. And he was also right when telling Cagalli to return to Orb and Kira to get the fuck of the battlefield, considering Zaft defeated EA regardless of Kira's actions and Cagalli managed to get back in control after she retrned to Orb.

If he didn't want to fight... why did he throw himself into the battles and attack everyone? Anyone with half a brain would realize how stupid and pointless it was, and it obviously didn't produce any results other than pointless deaths (even Stella had calmed by the time Kira got her going all bat-shit again). Kira's only explanation when confronted by Athrun was to justify his actions by 'Cagalli is crying,' I mean how retarded can you get?

BTW how stupid u all to thinking so much about GS&GSD cause the movie it can be totally difference coz many anime tht being a movie always not same as series..well if about char tht i hate is shin asuka..and if u talking if thy wanna make the thired series them can make kira dead but only if the story time is far from b4..cause how stupid it is war again after 2x (times) happen so them can make kira son as main char tht the better way...to me if the character wanna doing love,,sex even gay or lasbian i dont care as long thr r G.U.N.D.A.M cause the main character is the mecha it selft so about a cheap matter is not disturb me..so i hope war between all gundam fan are solve..well even zaft & ORB can be clear..to me all of gundam mecha tht not good in GSD is ORB-01-AKATSUKI cause thr r no way it can be as good latest gundam..and even have dragon system n also have shield so advance..n most un logic how rich is orb to mining GOLD!! i say GOLD!! tht much?? i will keep it 4 myself if i hav it better thn usd as weapon.

Because in SEED and SEED Destiny, Kira is invincible. He can't die. He'll just ressurect later. Lol Sunrise.

That aside, I don't like how the artwork looks on the main page for it. SEED was okay, but SEED Destiny got worse, and this is even worse than that. I hope it doesn't reflect the movie's art itself...

SEED, to me, is the worst Gundam series so far, but I still think it's alright so I'll be watching the movie anyway. Here's hoping some of the typical stuff of Sunrise lately will be ignored and they go for something epic, right?

wow, I was hoping for new info on the SEED movie (if there ever will actually be one), but this looks more troll on troll combat (still awesome though). I thought I read somewhere that the story was going to be "stand alone" or not directly linked to the series. I would like that.

Other than that, I've already let my feelings be known on the whole SEED Destiny "thing"

Well there hasn't been any new info on the SEED movie in the past two years, except that 'it's not cancelled.'

Gr...Is this movie ever gonna come out? ._.

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Thanks for explaination big time!!! I watched GS some time ago (but I'm still far from being over it) but I wasn't sure if I should watch Destiny mostly since I read that Athrun&Cagalli's relationship becomes worse. (Although since I'm planning to write a fanfic & I try to make it as reasonable & original-based as possible, I still watch many parts of GSD to see some characters I'm interested and plan to add) Now I'm coming closer & closer to decision to watch it anyway, and also thanks to your post. By analyzing all the info I found I also think that it's not as bad as it seems to. To your reasoning I can add (keeping in mind what you said about small details) the scene in the last opening - Athrun with the girls connected to him in some way, while Meylin is close to him, he's not looking at her - he's looking at Cagalli, from the distance. He's still looking only at her. And even in GSD Plus, I check the scene with him and Maylin & other two pairs, while they go their ways together, looking at each other or Lacus placing her head on Kira's shoulder, what we see with Athrun & Maylin - we see Maylin looking at him, while he's going ahead and not paying special attention to her.
Plus in GSD Special Eddition IV we see him wearing Orb's uniform (at least it really looks similar and Wiki thinks the same way), that means something. So I also think they just need something to get them back together, to clear the unsettled misunderstanding, since they still love each other, it's quite clear.
That was logic, one part of reasoning for expectations. And summing it with huge AthrunxCagalli still active fandom and movie most probably being firstly "fan service" for people who want another encounter with their fav. characters (although I do expect quite good storyline from it), I do think they will fulfil fan's expectations and get that two back together, since I doubt that there's even a person (out of people who watched GS/GSD whether liked it much or not) who's absolutely against it (or at least the number is insufficient). So it's both wanted & easy to carry (and a number of stylish ways to do it). Of cause they may decide to do something "unexpected" - but it's risky, it might affect the sales.

That's my reasoning for expecting Cagalli & Athrun back together in a movie (them being by fav. pair ever, I prey for that to happen).

Next about Lacus & Kira. Even though I won't be saying about GSD, I can understand perfectly that they're surely a pair and why. We just have to analyze what we see. To analyze Lacus words in the OVA, why she came to the battlefield - "Kira was crying, but he still went back". It's clear that Kira impressed her greatly, and not just then - he was the one who saved her twice first time they met, he was the only person really kind to her on Archangel. It was a start. And after she has seen him, how kind he was but how he still forced himself to go things he considered right, going back to the battlefield, she was impressed even more. It was probably Kira who changed her view of this world - and that's quite anough for her to fall for him. And Kira also became really attached to her, she was just the right person for him - someone who understood him perfectly and did not say empty words when not needed, she just helped. Plus that two are really similar and we have to count that. They are both unbelievably kind and both do not say much, they act... And their idea of love is also different, it's not kisses or other things, it's deep understanding of each other, relying on each other... It's like connection of the souls. (Probably all Kira's relation with Flay was to show that. He loved her, but... but. It wasn't what he really needed and seached for (2nd opening, "ai wo sagashite")). And Kira & Lacus represent true love in this series, this dreamy and probably unrealistic thing that still exist (as the strangest thing about miracles is that they still happen). And there isn't any "proof" needed. Proof is matherial thing, and they are dreamers, and the love they have reflect it.

And I doubt anyone really important will die. Especially not Lacus or Kira, since it's said they represent this series. And anyway, anybody from the "big four" is firstly too precious for fans, secondly, it'll be foolish since they had tones of other situations to do that if they needed it, and it'll be against logic and moral of the series, to live that far and live through impossible situations to die in the end - it can make people doubt that all that happened was needed. They have to let them live to see the world the seeds for which they sow - isn't this the grand idea of the name of the series?
Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself - but i really don't want anybody to die.

P.S. Anybody else noticed that the "picture" representing the movie is from the ending of GSD: Special Edition IV without other people in the background?

Hopefully, it will be a sequel that occurs after the Destiny series since Shinn Asuka is in the coverart and that he was only available in Destiny. However, Kira is wearing the Earth Alliance's uniform which is rather odd, considering that he was the lone pilot of ORB for a very long time until Cagalli and Mu La Flaga became secondary pilots.

I am guessing it is a remake of both series as a single movie.

Edit: I just realized that Kira's uniform is not from the Earth Alliance, but a ZAFT commander one, exactly like Talia Gladys.

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that pic is not the original artwork of what it looks like, the only thing that you should notice about the pic is the ZAFT Commanding Officer uniform that Kira is wearing in it.