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Feb 7, 2009 12:29 AM
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Boring episode. Nothing important happened.

1/5
TechnicsMKIIFeb 8, 2009 12:40 AM
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setsuna picked robot over pussy! wtf. and tieria picked the interewebs over his own pussy?
Feb 8, 2009 1:45 AM
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Nice to see Anew/Lyle progression, although now its totally clear that we have yet another tragic couple on our hands.

Wang as always EVIL, Andrei as always bastard.

Interesting plot twist at the end.

Overall quite good interlude episode
Feb 8, 2009 7:27 AM
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Nice to see Anew/Lyle progression, although now its totally clear that we have yet another tragic couple on our hands.


Possibly.
Feb 8, 2009 7:33 AM
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And now we know everything Setsuna is gundamophil :D

Poor Marina, Setsuna doesn't love her.

But Tieria with his "Veda" was cute ;3
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I'm doing the best i can in english :>
Feb 8, 2009 9:16 AM
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it's been a while since someone in the show mentioned "Veda" XD

Another week eh
Feb 8, 2009 9:49 AM
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lol


Feb 8, 2009 9:53 AM
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I knew it Regene don't like how Ribbons does the things :D

Go Regene, Go!

I'm only small polish female, so don't be so rude to me :<
I'm doing the best i can in english :>
Feb 8, 2009 10:18 AM
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Good episode, one thing I didn't like. Lyle...but I hate him in every episode, so that's nothing new. But really, this is turning into a soap opera. Emo Alle, his wife left him. Anew and Lyle in bed ( I hope that's not Neil's bed he's spoiling, dammit ). Emo Saji ( nothing new here ), Louise and Andrei...

In the episode 19 preview they showed Tieria with an evil smile, ahaha can't wait!
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And YAY Soma peries is BACK and she is not HAPPY




Feb 8, 2009 11:38 AM

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HOLY SHIT! I haven't seen all the episode and I thought you were making fun with the Veda and Gundam part. Ahahaaaaa I'll laugh forever *chokes and dies*
Feb 8, 2009 12:14 PM
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darkhriss said:

In the episode 19 preview they showed Tieria with an evil smile, ahaha can't wait!

And a slapped Regene by Ribbons = fail.
Feb 8, 2009 4:20 PM

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clearly a build up episode. stretch run is coming and hopefully OVA's and movies are on their way.
Feb 8, 2009 4:49 PM

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Saji: Louise
Louise: Saji
Andrei: Kaasan
Soma: Taisa
Allelujah: Marie
Lockon: Anew
Tieria: Veda
Setsuna: Gundam

Huge battle is coming I guess.

I lol'd. Hard.

On another note, it's nice to see Soma back. She's much more interesting than Marie. Lyle x Anew development was pretty cute as well. Next episode looks intense. I'm betting that Wang Liu Mei will go against the Innovators in some way, shape or form.
Feb 8, 2009 5:18 PM

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Lol'd fucking hard at that bit with their loves.

Setsuna is the man. Robots before hoes...?

And Tiera + Veda.

Every time I feel like this is the greatest show they do this shit and I just can't take it seriously. Still though, I enjoy it more than rest of the garbage that's 'anime.' So, it's a solid 9 probably.

Or not. I mean this is so gay. But, still, it's very watchable gay shit. I suppose I ought to go finish the older series.
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Lol, I couldn't help but laugh at the scene before the credits. Everyone was calling out the names of someone important to them. Then all of the sudden.

Tiera "Veda"
and
Setsuna "Gundam"

That just totally reminded me of that Gundam 00 commercial. Where they were making fun of the characters.
Feb 8, 2009 6:33 PM

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Really dull episode.

I wish they'd lay off all the vocal tracks too, not a fan of that music at all. But I guess it's all over the series. (OP/ED that are cut in between footage, that's just annoying). =/
Feb 8, 2009 6:33 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, the children have evolved telepathically (thus explaining why the song can be heard in the ratio)

Setsuna have evolved telepatically as well. He can now have newtype reaction with Innovator (Anew)

This means that everyone that momentarily connected through GNP when Twin Drive is activated effectively becomes 'altered'. I foresee this playing an important role ending the conflict once and for all....

I cracked up when they each said their important 'person'....

Someone important died... I wonder who it is: Marina, Klaus or Kirin? (Kirin and Klaus may have blocked the bullet)
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Feb 8, 2009 7:19 PM
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Dear Gundam 00: you are not Macross F, so stop singing





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wakka9ca said:
If I'm not mistaken, the children have evolved telepathically (thus explaining why the song can be heard in the ratio)

Setsuna have evolved telepatically as well. He can now have newtype reaction with Innovator (Anew)

This means that everyone that momentarily connected through GNP when Twin Drive is activated effectively becomes 'altered'. I foresee this playing an important role ending the conflict once and for all....

I cracked up when they each said their important 'person'....

Someone important died... I wonder who it is: Marina, Klaus or Kirin? (Kirin and Klaus may have blocked the bullet)
so they don't have record companies anymore in the future due to piracy?
Feb 8, 2009 10:30 PM

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Only good part to this episode was Lyle's confession and Anew's reaction then when everyone said something important to them, Setsuna: Gundam, Tieria: Veda, lol O_O

Ending should make things slightly more interesting
Feb 8, 2009 11:42 PM

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Having a boring ep when the series is almost over is bad. I kind of wish they would take Veda just to destroy it. CB was a lot cooler without.

Feb 9, 2009 12:16 AM
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Guess this was a setup ep for whatever may be big next. Lol'd at Tieria and Setsuna's response. Still waiting for Andrei to get a beam sword in the ass. Looks like something goodish bad will happen with Saji's plot. Alleluia has to start over with Soma. Kinda expected that perfect cabin to be stormed instantly with no suggested escape route. And a butt load of other precursors were created. Can't wait.
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Oh fuck yes! I've been waiting for this for a while! ANEW + LOCKON! Wouldn't surprise me if they end and it goes back to Feldt + Lockon (LAME).

Anyways, hilarious at the part where everyone's saying out the people that they love, then Tieria says Veda and Setsuna says Gundam. Yet again, Setsuna amuses me to no end.

Other than that, episode was more talking and less explosions. Not bad in my book, but I would like to see more explosions, less talking.
Feb 9, 2009 2:25 AM

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i laugh hard at the words of tierra and setsuna
tierra called veda like his dearest
and of course setsuna called the gundam like his dearest too XD
Feb 9, 2009 7:07 AM

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So Regene has her own motives and Tieria and Setsuna rather sex up the internetz and a robot.

Andrei is exactly like his father. He did it all because of military protocol and "peace". What a hypocritical bastard. But judging from Louise's reaction, is this her first step towards swaying away from A-LAWS?
Feb 9, 2009 8:35 AM

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Set-up episodes, not my favorite, but they do some good. We finally get to see the Lockon x Anew relationship that's been hinted at for a while. I'll be curious to see if there are any changes to that bedroom scene in the DVD version. Definitely interested in seeing what Andrei will do if Louise gets seriously threatened out there, especially if Soma is going to be chasing him down. I'm beginning to wonder if Anew was just placed there to be a beacon for the Innovators so they can find CB easily, also nice to see that the Innovators might not all be behind Bad Amuro and his god complex.

Ending scene was nice and amusing, especially when Lockon told Anew that he loved her. I wouldn't say Veda is Tieria's lover...it was just on his mind. I can't say the same about Setsuna and his Gundam >_>
Feb 9, 2009 8:44 AM

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I hate when they end episodes like this... now have to wait the whole week for a great one :(
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Feb 9, 2009 8:52 AM
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I seriously almost choked on my cereal after I saw that scene before the credits XD. As others have said, a fairly decent build up episode. I wonder what happened with Mannequin though? It'll be interesting to see how she'll reappear.
Feb 9, 2009 9:28 AM

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i laugh hard at the words of tierra and setsuna
tierra called veda like his dearest
and of course setsuna called the gundam like his dearest too XD


same here

Otherwise, a boring build up ep. 3/5


"There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled,
which leads to an unknown, secret place."
Feb 9, 2009 10:03 AM
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Maxim said:
I hate when they end episodes like this... now have to wait the whole week for a great one :(

I know that feeling. Looking forward to next week's episode.

Wonder who those guys were in the end of the episode.
Feb 9, 2009 10:10 AM

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Gradation said:
Lol, I couldn't help but laugh at the scene before the credits. Everyone was calling out the names of someone important to them. Then all of the sudden.

Tiera "Veda"
and
Setsuna "Gundam"

That just totally reminded me of that Gundam 00 commercial. Where they were making fun of the characters.


Ya... It's like OMG, it's Tieria's turn and you're wondering what will he pick...

Veda. :D

Than Setsuna with his gundam, lol'ed so hard.
Feb 9, 2009 10:10 AM

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LOL Setsuna loves his gundam.... and Tieria loves his... well whatever ^_^
Feb 9, 2009 10:27 AM

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I refuse to use AoShen, so I'm a little behind on this. With luck I'll get over it before next week.

That was a pretty good episode, in all honesty, I don't get all the bitching for a set up episode. There was plenty of love to go around, and the episode was pretty entertaining. Also keep in mind, it's likely close nonstop conflict from here through the end.

Anyway, at this point I'm banking on tragic end for LylexAnew and AllexSoma. From Anew's Innovatorness noticed by Lyle, only to be followed by, "I love you.", to Soma's back-to-Somaness they're pretty much all walking the path of, "We're screwed, so lets walk with our death flags!" On the upside, I'm glad they finally gave us the LylexAnew development we've all been waiting for.

Also honestly guys, it wouldn't be Gundam 00 without Setsuna saying "Gundam..." in his monotone voice once every few episodes. This has been LONG overdue. With Tieria being an Innovator himself it's no surprise that Veda is his primary goal either, not to mention his attachment to Veda in the prior season.

There's no way Marina died, odds are Kirin took the bullet, Marina is far too Relena-y to die. And basically, it looks like Regene and WLM are finally defying the Innovators, not that this hasn't been coming for a while. Odds are, Ribbons in his all mighty Ribbonsy omnipotence has already calculated this, which should make for some good drama.

I want Andrei to die even more than I used to, his hypocrisy is finally becoming too much. I'm also sort of cheering for Louise to go towards "GOOD END", despite the fact I've been hating her lately. A SajixLouise ending kinda works quite nicely for a epilogue, especially with everyone else walking the paths of tragic heroes.

Also, when you consider it, those two characters are really nothing more than two civilians who got caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's been that way for the past four-to-five years for them, so seeing them settle down following all this with the changes they've gone through and experiences they've had, though still retaining their initial civilian perspective would be nice. (I could just be overly hopeful, but it seems like it'd work)
BakayaroFeb 9, 2009 10:34 AM

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Man, this show is becoming a parody of itself. Useless dialogues, rushed relationships, emo bitching, Marina's daycare, this episode has it all. I guess they also need some good guy on the bad guy's side (or it won't be Gundam) so now that Sergei's dead, it's up to Regene. Oh well, better her than that Trinity loli, I guess. Andrei hitting on Louise, after killing his father, is now officially on my "must die" list. Oh and is it me or is there some kind of relationship developing between Tiera and Mileina ?

The disappointment is probably bigger than it should be, but that's because last episode was so epic. After all this is a set-up episode, and like all set-up episodes, it sucks.

I give it a 2/5 because Soma's back and I lol'd hard at the end. xD Is Gundam 00 S2 gonna invent the "yaoi mecha porn" genre ? Now I just hope that Marina's dead, even though that probably won't happen. *sigh*
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I guess they also need some good guy on the bad guy's side (or it won't be Gundam) so now that Sergei's dead, it's up to Regene.


Louise? Mannequin? Regene? WLM? I mean, from the start Mannequin was in A-LAWS to keep an eye on them as she didn't trust them. For now she's MIA, and in this show, that generally means alive which I actually meant to say something about in my previous post, but oh well.

Anyway, past that you've got Louise who is going to meet up with Saji in some form next episode after she began doubting herself this episode. Regene and WLM are working their own agenda, and doing who the hell knows what, but it looks like they betrayed the Innovators. And Nena is still somewhere as well, but who knows what the hell she's doing at this moment anyway?

TL;DR: You've got plenty. Pick one.

This all stated, I do agree with you on one point. Marina's singing/daycare blows.

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Feb 9, 2009 11:27 AM
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LMAO. Love is in the air in CB. Romance and a possible Bromance.

did they seriously need to spend that much time advancing the pairings rather than advance the plot, develop the characters so that they don't seem like dingbats? a good part of the episode was wasted on badly written fanservice while the plot took a backseat this time around. on the 18th of 25 episodes no less? seriously?hell, that wasn't even inspired dialogue on the Lyle X Anew scene. cliche to the point of hilarity.

also, more of Andrei's sophistry = more lulz.
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Louise? Mannequin? Regene? WLM? I mean, from the start Mannequin was in A-LAWS to keep an eye on them as she didn't trust them. For now she's MIA, and in this show, that generally means alive which I actually meant to say something about in my previous post, but oh well.


Yeah true enough for Mannequin, I'm sure she'll play a crucial role in the next episodes, but until now she has just been following orders instead of really investigating on A-Laws.

Louise is just a puppet character like Stella in Seed Destiny, though that too will probably change. But for the moment I can't see her as a respectable figure on the A-Laws/Innovators side.

But Wang Liu Mei ? Damn, she's probably the character I hate the most since season 1, and that's probably what the producers want us to think. I'd rather go with Ribbons' plan than whatever agenda WLM has.

Tbh, I thought CB were the "bad guys" in season 1, so it really depends on the point of view and how the producers want to present the characters. ^^
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Maurice said:
Saji: Louise
Louise: Saji
Andrei: Kaasan
Soma: Taisa
Allelujah: Marie
Lockon: Anew
Tieria: Veda
Setsuna: Gundam

Huge battle is coming I guess.


I seriously laughed at this. I gave this episode 4 stars because of that.


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Louise is just a puppet character like Stella in Seed Destiny, though that too will probably change. But for the moment I can't see her as a respectable figure on the A-Laws/Innovators side.

But Wang Liu Mei ? Damn, she's probably the character I hate the most since season 1, and that's probably what the producers want us to think. I'd rather go with Ribbons' plan than whatever agenda WLM has.

Tbh, I thought CB were the "bad guys" in season 1, so it really depends on the point of view and how the producers want to present the characters. ^^


Fair 'nuff. Something'll happen with Louise next episode, guarantee it. And Wang is pretty much up in the air, I don't have a damned clue what she's doing. Again, probably what the producers want us to feel.

Though, I think you really hit the nail on the head with the CB were the "bad guys". It's all really coming down to nothing more than perspective, and how you choose to perceive what's going on. Anyway, we've only got a few more episodes, and I reckon they'll be jam packed with everything you could possibly want, including finishing the dozen plotlines that still need to get wrapped up past the CB vs. A-LAWS line.

For all we know, CB really will turn out to be the true antagonists. *shrug* We still have to see where the whole lost Aeolia/Innovators/CB line is going. I mean, we were finally thrown a bone with the whole "Everyone will become an Innovator" thing. Blah, I'm overthinking this.
BakayaroFeb 9, 2009 12:15 PM

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Feb 9, 2009 1:01 PM

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whoa bakayaro saying something smart. that's a first.
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Call me Baki like you always do Frito... Ba-ki~.... Oh my!...

By the way, wait til next week, I'm pretty sure I'll destroy whatever it was I posted that was semi-intelligent.

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Maurice said:
Saji: Louise
Louise: Saji
Andrei: Kaasan
Soma: Taisa
Allelujah: Marie
Lockon: Anew
Tieria: Veda
Setsuna: Gundam

Huge battle is coming I guess.


THE highlight of the episode, I laughed hard when Tieria said Veda, and then Setsuna adding Gundam was just... wow.

Great transition episode, I really wonder how they can manage to do such well-written and well-paced episodes where we can actually feel something about the characters (and they're pretty much developped even) now, that they couldn't in the first season or in the beginning of the second. It's like the general level of the series suddenly raised twelve episode ago, even the build up episode are better than important episodes of season one.

Next a Saji x Louise episode, one season ago, I would have been horrified by that idea, but now I'm pretty confident that Mizushima and co will do it well. And Wang Liu Mei's come back is seriously interesting for the plot, I hope this great character just becomes more evil than the innovators and simply kicks them out of the front stage wher they don't really belong (too emo to be the masters of the world ain't they?).

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setsuna picked robot over pussy! wtf. and tieria picked the interewebs over his own pussy?

I lol'd.

and yeah, welcome to main chars.
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Saji: Louise ::: Check
Louise: Saji ::: Check
Andrei: Kaasan ::: Check
Soma: Taisa ::: Check
Allelujah: Marie ::: Check
Lockon: Anew ::: Check
Tieria: Veda ::: Little sad but internet porn is acceptable
Setsuna: Gundam ::: FAIL
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nihil said:
Frito said:
setsuna picked robot over pussy! wtf. and tieria picked the interewebs over his own pussy?

I lol'd.

and yeah, welcome to main chars.
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Feb 9, 2009 2:29 PM
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Saji: Louise ::: Check
Louise: Saji ::: Check
Andrei: Kaasan ::: Check
Soma: Taisa ::: Check
Allelujah: Marie ::: Check
Lockon: Anew ::: Check
Tieria: Veda ::: Little sad but internet porn is acceptable
Setsuna: Gundam ::: FAIL

Yeah, it's the defining trait of this entire episode.
Feb 9, 2009 3:00 PM

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Marina dies next episode. Setsuna x Nena x Gundam threesome.

The set up feels almost like the beginning of episode 24 back in season one, the calm before the storm, characters are going to go down like flies from this point on (a little early, but hey..).
Feb 9, 2009 3:57 PM

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the katharon interludes are getting really annoying/boring, Setsuna doesn't want Marrina anyway as we learned he only wants Gundam. So 1 Gundam Meister loves a super soldier girl, another loves an Innovator that seems to be a girl, while the other 2 are in love with a gundam and a computer hahaha.

I love how stupid Andrei is, I doubt he even tried to find out why his father was there. I still expect better from Billy and Graham. Regene plotting to overthrow Ribbons isn't surprising but it's nice. The small but interesting thing is Mannequin wasn't around.
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GET SOME, LOCKON!

...Soma's pissy.

This is all I got out of this episode.
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