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Sep 26, 2013 12:52 PM

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Men that episode was epic, Togami vs Kirigiri shit just got real. So Naegi is executed but saved (phew), so we get a final trial coming next up and so huge team work pretty amazing.
Sep 26, 2013 10:19 PM

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ramen cup Kirigiri and she just swiped them off without a care in the world.

Kirigiri is so smart.

and then Monokuma is becoming more like Kuma from Persona 4...which i have anticipated in the first ep. well worth the wait lol
Sep 27, 2013 1:40 AM

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Werchiel said:
Worst episode so far. After Naegi was "killed" by Kirigiri... For all intent and purpose he did got killed or rather she wanted him to die - she ahd no idea about the virus that had saved his life so in her mindset she was killing him. Now what happens when she confronts him later on? How does he react after seeing the person who literally condemned him to death? He is happy to see her and says that it's ok. I can take a lot of bullshit but this? He got betrayed and led to death and when he sees the person who did this he's relieved? Fuck you.

I've basically been thinking this as I read through 8 pages of "Kirigiri's so badass" and "aww Kirigiri x Naegi."

I mean, I thought she had damn sexy legs too but Wtf guys? Are you really just going to completely ignore this? I get that he's basically Super Duper Highschool Jesus and as such forgives everyone - and that half of you didn't care if he died in the first place so you didn't even bother to apply any logic to this - but no matter how you look at it she showed virtually no remorse for throwing him under the bus, which makes all that cute Kirigiri x Naegi in the rubbish heap bit quite a stretch, regardless of how forgiving he is.

She basically shot down any development they'd had with one another in one fell swoop; doubly so considering that the whole time she was setting him up to die he could have called her out on it but didn't.

That cold-hearted bitch did have nice legs though.
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Sep 27, 2013 2:42 AM

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Pusswookie said:
Werchiel said:
Worst episode so far. After Naegi was "killed" by Kirigiri... For all intent and purpose he did got killed or rather she wanted him to die - she ahd no idea about the virus that had saved his life so in her mindset she was killing him. Now what happens when she confronts him later on? How does he react after seeing the person who literally condemned him to death? He is happy to see her and says that it's ok. I can take a lot of bullshit but this? He got betrayed and led to death and when he sees the person who did this he's relieved? Fuck you.

I've basically been thinking this as I read through 8 pages of "Kirigiri's so badass" and "aww Kirigiri x Naegi."

I mean, I thought she had damn sexy legs too but Wtf guys? Are you really just going to completely ignore this? I get that he's basically Super Duper Highschool Jesus and as such forgives everyone - and that half of you didn't care if he died in the first place so you didn't even bother to apply any logic to this - but no matter how you look at it she showed virtually no remorse for throwing him under the bus, which makes all that cute Kirigiri x Naegi in the rubbish heap bit quite a stretch, regardless of how forgiving he is.

She basically shot down any development they'd had with one another in one fell swoop; doubly so considering that the whole time she was setting him up to die he could have called her out on it but didn't.

That cold-hearted bitch did have nice legs though.


Have you played the game?
In the game she saved Naegi out of the garbage bin because she's thankful for keeping her secret (the key), not because of what she done to him during the class trial.
Sep 27, 2013 3:37 AM

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Psyche_Izaya said:
Pusswookie said:
Werchiel said:
Worst episode so far. After Naegi was "killed" by Kirigiri... For all intent and purpose he did got killed or rather she wanted him to die - she ahd no idea about the virus that had saved his life so in her mindset she was killing him. Now what happens when she confronts him later on? How does he react after seeing the person who literally condemned him to death? He is happy to see her and says that it's ok. I can take a lot of bullshit but this? He got betrayed and led to death and when he sees the person who did this he's relieved? Fuck you.

I've basically been thinking this as I read through 8 pages of "Kirigiri's so badass" and "aww Kirigiri x Naegi."

I mean, I thought she had damn sexy legs too but Wtf guys? Are you really just going to completely ignore this? I get that he's basically Super Duper Highschool Jesus and as such forgives everyone - and that half of you didn't care if he died in the first place so you didn't even bother to apply any logic to this - but no matter how you look at it she showed virtually no remorse for throwing him under the bus, which makes all that cute Kirigiri x Naegi in the rubbish heap bit quite a stretch, regardless of how forgiving he is.

She basically shot down any development they'd had with one another in one fell swoop; doubly so considering that the whole time she was setting him up to die he could have called her out on it but didn't.

That cold-hearted bitch did have nice legs though.


Have you played the game?
In the game she saved Naegi out of the garbage bin because she's thankful for keeping her secret (the key), not because of what she done to him during the class trial.

Saved him out of the garbage bin that her actions directly put him in. In fact, if she only saved him because Gosh, he sure was awfully considerate while she stabbed him in the back - the front, really - then that just makes it worse.
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Sep 27, 2013 8:04 PM

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Heart almost stopped when I thought Naegi was about to die. Then I remembered he's the protagonist xD
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Sep 28, 2013 6:13 AM

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i love how they do the executions
Sep 29, 2013 10:40 AM
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dat brainstorm episode
Oct 1, 2013 11:01 AM

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I kept saying to myself, Naegi kun isnt gonna die Naegi kun isnt gonna die,
then he started sweatn and got closer,
and my sister comes out of kno where and says "HES THE MAIN CHARACTER HE CANT DIE"

and then Alter Ego shows up,
phew.


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i couldnt help but to sing snake eater when they climbed that latter
Oct 2, 2013 1:13 AM

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Stark700 said:

Decent OST this episode. HOLY SHIT, Naegi got voted as GUILTY. I was NOT expecting this.

This. Awesome OSTs. I wasn't expecting that too, the part about Naegi. I thought that he would surely die, but when Alter Ego saved him, I was kind of disappointed, but oh well, here comes the finale!
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Oct 2, 2013 1:05 PM

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Awesome I almost thought he was a gonner :p and well good to see AlterEgo again and to see him survive and rescued by Kyouko was quite nice so lets see what will happen next!
Oct 12, 2013 9:14 AM
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Damn I don't know what to say!!!! I guess I should just watch the next episode :D
Oct 24, 2013 2:38 PM

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During Naegi's execution, Monobear was teaching him how to make babies XDXDXD
Dec 8, 2013 5:39 PM

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I don't get it, so how is this fair to the person who actually committed the murder and got away with it? Someone should be angry yet no one seems to show it. Does that mean, none of the 6 committed the murder? Does it have to be kirigiri killing to save?

The deal seems a bit too good to be true since the best ending they could have gotten before is like 1 or 2 of them living at best.

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Dec 28, 2013 5:57 PM

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That episode made grip to the edge of my seat! I was freaking out when Naegi was executed, but phew he was safe~ Can't wait for the last 2 episodes!
Apr 21, 2014 10:09 PM

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Shit, I really thought Naegi got executed!
Apr 29, 2014 4:45 AM
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If I was Naegi I would've spilled the beans. I'm not dying for someone who I think I can trust. In the end it all paid off but it still was a big risk. It just really pissed me off how he didn't say anything. I was glad he didn't die and I think him forgiving the other students was a special moment. Made me feel warm inside :D
May 31, 2014 10:33 AM

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Oh god, Naegi, I almost die with you.
Jun 16, 2014 3:53 AM

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When I played the game, there were certain choices to pick:
a. Call on her
b. Don't call her
c. Run away,
First, I picked letter a, so Kirigiri was guilty(although she was not) then she was executed(just like how Naegi was nearly executed) then years later, the four survivors live in peace in the academy, (Fukushima died, I guess? Because Togami was holding her picture frame while the others were carrying their babies, it's kinda funny, right?).
Then that was the wrong end.
Then second, I picked letter b. So the result was just like in the anime. Naegi was nearly executed, but thanks to Alter Ego. :))
Jul 12, 2014 8:05 AM

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I didn't expect them to actually vote Naegi as guilty O__O Really thought he's a goner.
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Jul 13, 2014 1:30 PM
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Neizaru said:
Did I miss something crucial, or has Kirigiri just tried to kill Naegi to save her hide and nobody seems to give a damn? Sure he's a boring, flat protagonist that nobody cares about and surely nobody would choose him over the cool detective girl, but shouldn't he be at least a little pissed about it? I mean it looks like "Yes, you just tried to murder me in cold blood, but I got saved by something completly random so all is fine and let's immidiately forget about it" :D

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Werchiel said:
Worst episode so far. After Naegi was "killed" by Kirigiri... For all intent and purpose he did got killed or rather she wanted him to die - she ahd no idea about the virus that had saved his life so in her mindset she was killing him. Now what happens when she confronts him later on? How does he react after seeing the person who literally condemned him to death? He is happy to see her and says that it's ok. I can take a lot of bullshit but this? He got betrayed and led to death and when he sees the person who did this he's relieved? Fuck you.

I've basically been thinking this as I read through 8 pages of "Kirigiri's so badass" and "aww Kirigiri x Naegi."

I mean, I thought she had damn sexy legs too but Wtf guys? Are you really just going to completely ignore this? I get that he's basically Super Duper Highschool Jesus and as such forgives everyone - and that half of you didn't care if he died in the first place so you didn't even bother to apply any logic to this - but no matter how you look at it she showed virtually no remorse for throwing him under the bus, which makes all that cute Kirigiri x Naegi in the rubbish heap bit quite a stretch, regardless of how forgiving he is.

She basically shot down any development they'd had with one another in one fell swoop; doubly so considering that the whole time she was setting him up to die he could have called her out on it but didn't.

That cold-hearted bitch did have nice legs though.


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Kirigiri knows that if she died, no one else would have a chance at living since shes the one they want to target and she is the holder of the key. Albeit, she still has a purpose on why shes still playing the game, her life was technically more valuable than his.


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Besides, why did you blame only Kirigiri? She's NOT THE ONLY ONE who vote for Naegi, you know?
Executing her will only lead to bad end.
Oh... and if you have forgot, Kirigiri have already save Naegi during the night he almost got stabbed, remember? She didn't get any praises from you guys for that and yet in this episode, you bitch her all you want because she (and everyone else) 'sacrifice' Naegi... That's really depressing.
She NEED to live for the survival of others. She IS the key after all.


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i don't even know why they kept blaming kirigiri. did they forgot that naegi was supposed to die in that one night in the previous episode and kirigiri is the one who save him. To repay his debt, Naegi can at least sacrifice his life for her, wasn't it?

did you forgot that kirigiri knows that naegi knows about her key and in the end, it was naegi who got to decide to expose her lie or not. in the game, if naegi survive and kirigiri die, naegi would eventually gave up in the searching for the answer. besides, Naegi knows that to survive, they need to take risks just like what kirigiri has told him before.

i didn't mention about the trials, since everyone work together for that one so they're basically saving each other unlike when naegi almost got stabbed. they need each other to survive the trials but for the survival in the school, it would be a whole different matter. so, in other words, outside class trials, naegi owes his life to kirigiri at least once so for him to sacrifice himself is a right thing to do.
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Aug 4, 2014 8:12 AM

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Hmmm... Now this is interesting. I hope Togami doesn't die. I felt happy for a moment that Naegi was going to be executed, then I realized he didn't do it and he was being set up. Which kinda killed it. Because Naegi doesn't seem to be the one who kills someone.
Aug 26, 2014 10:17 PM

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Damn! I was freaking out that Naegi was about to be killed. He was so close to getting killed too. I was really relieved that he didn't die right there. Naegi was climbing the ladder first. Guess he didn't get to see Kirigiri's panties. So they all have a chance to escape if they can find the truth or they will all die. I really can't tell which it's gonna be. I feel like it can go either way. Great episode!
Apr 28, 2015 5:00 PM

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I was so nervous for Naegi, I thought for a second they were really about to kill off the main character, thank god for Alter Ego!

Looks like things are about to get really intense. Final trial D:
Sep 26, 2015 1:26 PM

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Ohhh Kirigiri is a detective...

Naegi is saved by Alter Ego... nice. I still can't get around the national broadcast survival game and the photo that Alter Ego found. I wonder what that means

Mar 12, 2016 11:45 PM

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Great episode. 2 more left
Mar 18, 2016 10:06 AM

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Glad Naegi was rescued by alter ego's virus although he shouldn't have gone if he didn't do it anyway, frame job, pfft.

Kirigiri really is a detective and her dad was principal.

If they figure out the schools secrets they all get to walk away! I hope they manage it!
Apr 26, 2016 6:36 PM

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Dang Kirigiri is SMART. I'll admit that I suspected that she was the agent at first by the way she was behaving and all but she's good.

She's smart enough to manipulate Monokuma... but is she? I don't know. This series might just surprise me and kill everyone last minute.
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Dang Kirigiri is SMART. I'll admit that I suspected that she was the agent at first by the way she was behaving and all but she's good.

She's smart enough to manipulate Monokuma... but is she? I don't know. This series might just surprise me and kill everyone last minute.


Am I the only one that isn't that fond of her after she left Naegi to die in her place? It was incredibly cruel but no one here seems to think so :/
Jul 6, 2016 2:51 PM

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Something is wrong... First in las episode that bomb doesn't kill Genocider and now after this big fall Naegi and Kirigiri don't even have broken legs/arms. This is anime where people die?

Also on this ladder... Kirigiri should go first and almost fall on Naegi face :D
And we still don't know who died and who killed or maybe no one at all died?

Anyway the ending of this anime is way better than start. Lets see the final :O
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Gotta say, case 5 was the best adapted arc so far. I think it helps a lot that the class trial is less about whodunnit and more about the peculiar circumstances surrounding this case. It's a shame that so many characters had to die before the anime was capable of adapting the material this well though. To be honest, I'm still concerned about the quality of the remaining episodes.
Dec 17, 2016 9:13 PM

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Alter Ego, you da best <33333333

I'm glad they all felt shit for what they did to Naegi. He's too good to them, forrealz. I would've been so pissed D:<
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So the whole rule about killing everyone, but the culprit if they convicted the wrong person just conveniently didn't apply any more?

They should've just let Naegi die rather than go with Alter Ego ex Machina.
Sep 20, 2017 10:21 PM

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Makoto is guilty? NO!
LMFAO at Monokuma teaching Makoto how life strats.
Alter Ego?
Makoto fell.
Hmm...April 1st on the board.
Makoto won't give up. *proceeds to go to sleep* lol
LAWD! DAT KYOUKO LEG! Dat booty. Dat piece of back skin.
lol at the cup on Kyouko's head.
Dem Kyouko crossed legs.
Dem Kyouko legs up the ladder. Damn it. Show the pantsu.
Kyouko remembered who she is. Super High School Level Tantei.
The true solution arc will now begin.
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Sep 30, 2017 1:35 AM

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So it's time for the last trial. Just two more episodes.

Naegi is really the luckiest student, he is worthy of his title.
Dec 18, 2017 11:39 AM

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At this point, I like the course of the story.

Finally, they can finally compete directly against Monokuma. Anything else would have made no sense after Naegi was wrongfully convicted.

Hopefully the finale will be just as interesting
Mar 16, 2019 8:18 AM

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And so we approach the finale - Everything has been awesome so far, I hope they don't mess it up :/
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Jun 17, 2019 8:17 PM

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And so we approach the finale - Everything has been awesome so far, I hope they don't mess it up :/

I love the reactions of those who didn't play the game. It shows that the anime can hold it's own. However, you SHOULD play it! Real fun and a whole lot more story, trust me. I'm just watching this after playing all three games.
Jul 14, 2019 9:07 AM

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I thought,that Naegi would dead ,but he's MC then it would looks weird

Last two episodes would be the most interesting of all
Apr 27, 2020 5:25 PM
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At least he's alive
Apr 27, 2020 5:26 PM

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He was saved by the computer they killed before wtf
Nov 15, 2020 5:36 AM

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Okay I have the same question as Togami and the others before Kirigiri and Naegi returned, if we all knew Naegi was innocent why was he still executed?? I mean it obviously ended up failing but was that a consequence of breaking the rules? We were shown the AI messing with the system for a second and then boom, Naegi was in the trash heap and later rescued. Before Naegi and Kirigiri return to the others they all admit they knew he was innocent but voted for him because of the lack of time for him to prove his innocence..


Dec 4, 2020 6:30 AM

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I knew it that Naegi won't die. That was obvious. Main characters don't die that easily.
Nov 10, 2021 11:32 PM

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OMG!! My hear really stopped beating for a sec when we saw Naegi getting voted as the guilty one😱 but moments later...
This show really going all out towards the end!!

May 5, 2022 10:45 PM
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I hate how most of the characters are not even thinking they immediately changed their mind
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Finally, these are getting good.
Dec 17, 2022 7:33 AM

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If I were Naegi during the class trial then I would have told Monokuma about the key that Kirigiri took and how I helped her yesterday. Like, if she tries to kill me by making me the culprit then I'll kill her first or drag her down to hell with me. While Naegi just forgave her like that... Naegi should be a saint after getting out of that academy to be honest, he has sincerity and patience as wide as the ocean. All thanks to Alter Ego, he saved him.

Dec 30, 2022 10:20 AM

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Holy moly! this episode plot is freaking thrilling, I mean if I were in the position of Naegi I don't think I can trust my friends anymore... And have a reason to live, I will totally fall in despair. Just like what monobear wants...
Mar 17, 2023 2:44 PM
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Que episódio tenso. O urso se enrolando e quase matando o Naegi arrepiou demais.
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So I guess all rules are out the window now. There's a lot of explaining to do in these last two episodes now.
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