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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
24 34.78%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
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02-03-09, 2:49 PM

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the arc started of interesting but by the end of it left me confused like most of the other ones. so much explaining always and tsuchimikado being fine at the end was wtf? next time looks a bit more normal.
 
02-03-09, 3:08 PM

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Good episode.
I like the new opening.
Looks like we'll see a some new characters in the next few episodes.
Too bad, they didn't made a new ED.
 
02-03-09, 3:19 PM

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OMG, episode preview was the highlight.

Tsuchumikado is funny, I like him. This arc was a bit confusing and felt a little unnescesary though.


 
02-03-09, 3:54 PM

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This show is getting pretty facepalm worthy. Are all the arcs going to end with Touma in the hospital? He was barely even hurt in this arc. He just got thrown around a bit.
 
02-03-09, 4:52 PM

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I'm sorry, what the hell was that?

Everyone's body is switched except for Kanzaki, Misha, and Tsuchimikado...with no explanation? Then Tsuchimikado is one big pathological liar to add to the confusion, and we end with the lame sequence we always end up with at the end of an arc.

This is redundant past the point of entertaining, and onto the level of banality.


Watch the previous episode. Kanzaki & Tsuchimikado did attempt to cast a spell to negate the effect, but it did not appear to work on anyone except for the 3 plus Touma (I do not have to explain more since it's all in the episode. & Misha is the cause so I don't see why she should be seen as someone else too.

But then again that Misha appears to be imitating one of the magicians (as hinted in this episode.)

Annisa said:
Anyway, I want to make sure I understood some parts of this arc correctly. Misha happens to be an angel and I suppose she was sent down basically to stop Angel's Fall, correct? And Tsuchimikado was coughing up blood because he's an esper but was using magic, right? Anyone?


I can agree with your second question no more. But the fact that Misha is an angel still baffles me.

EDIT: In regards to the 2nd OP I find that it comes a bit too late. Makes it seems as though there's more than 24/25 episodes as originally planned.

& perhaps the 2nd ED is on its way next episode?

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Wasabi said:
This show is getting pretty facepalm worthy. Are all the arcs going to end with Touma in the hospital? He was barely even hurt in this arc. He just got thrown around a bit.


Maybe so. But he IS more than getting thrown around a bit.
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02-03-09, 5:29 PM

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i was actually quite lost there at some point. so who the fuck is misha? why does his dad know her(remember he also keeps calling her misha...out of nowhere..or maybe I myself dont remember) sure, she's the angel...who took the form of sasha? confuzzling

in any case, i don't pay attention to the overall story. maybe im the only one who likes these mini arcs. i actually watch the show because of the good animation and the characters :P and hooray! another misaka arc! <3

question: who's the one spinning with the blue dress in the op? she seems rather too "happy" to be the real mikoto misaka, and she can't be a clone either because her eyes are different and show "emotion". plus! she has an ahoge. hmmm. if she's a different person then just put a spoiler on your answer or pm me XD

lastly, i also am not amused with the op. i tried listening a few times but it just didnt grow on me. in contrast, i liked the first op the first time i heard it..so maybe im just expecting too much from the new op. it still sounds like a bunch of random techno sounds thrown together -_-
 
02-03-09, 5:45 PM

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corroded said:
i was actually quite lost there at some point. so who the fuck is misha? why does his dad know her(remember he also keeps calling her misha...out of nowhere..or maybe I myself dont remember) sure, she's the angel...who took the form of sasha? confuzzling

question: who's the one spinning with the blue dress in the op? she seems rather too "happy" to be the real mikoto misaka, and she can't be a clone either because her eyes are different and show "emotion". plus! she has an ahoge. hmmm. if she's a different person then just put a spoiler on your answer or pm me XD


To answer your first question Misha did actually appear in front of Touma's family once in the 2nd episode (previous) of the arc. That's how.

As for the 2nd question, I believe she would be the main focus of the next arc to come. The big hint is already there:
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02-03-09, 6:18 PM

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Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.

I can't believe they came up with this deus ex machina explanation and techno/theo-babble solution that was all through out this episode. Sadly, the highlight for me this episode was the comedy at the end with the usual Index 'greeting' at the hospital.
 
02-03-09, 7:17 PM

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Yeah, that was a bit much. At least the ending of each arc is reliable.

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02-03-09, 7:42 PM

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not a big fan of the new op. it's not terrible, but it's definitely worse than the first.

what the heck was this? what was the point of the whole tsuchimikado fight if he was just going to blow up the house anyway? so mischa just happened to get lucky that someone in the world just happened to rearrange their souvenirs in the perfect way? does index do anything anymore besides show up at the end of arcs to glomp on touma? how am i still watching this show?

this is the only show i've ever seen that will purposely ruin a fight scene by weighing it down with ridiculous and unnecessary exposition.

what a waste of an arc... another one that is.
 
02-03-09, 8:41 PM

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darkxdestiny said:
corroded said:
i was actually quite lost there at some point. so who the fuck is misha? why does his dad know her(remember he also keeps calling her misha...out of nowhere..or maybe I myself dont remember) sure, she's the angel...who took the form of sasha? confuzzling

question: who's the one spinning with the blue dress in the op? she seems rather too "happy" to be the real mikoto misaka, and she can't be a clone either because her eyes are different and show "emotion". plus! she has an ahoge. hmmm. if she's a different person then just put a spoiler on your answer or pm me XD


To answer your first question Misha did actually appear in front of Touma's family once in the 2nd episode (previous) of the arc. That's how.

As for the 2nd question, I believe she would be the main focus of the next arc to come. The big hint is already there:
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ok knowing that is good enough for me. more clones/lookalikes or whatnot means moar lolis.

yup she did appear with the touma family..but as whom? i guess thats something they didn't expound on, like what they did to kaori appearing as stiyl(introduced as a friend of touma)
 
02-03-09, 9:48 PM

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rofl who call the Angle Falls being caused by Touma's dad's collection of stuff? Me thats who lol! Wasn't expecting Misha to just disappear at the end though. The up side is Misha was a clone of the real Russian loli so hopefully we will meet her in the future.
 
02-03-09, 10:48 PM

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Man it feels like everything that happens in this anime is pulled out randomly from the ass. Things just happen and Touma is like, oh okay I get it or I'll go along with it lol. But other than the random plots and plot twists I still want to watch more.

That's the same impression me and my friends are getting. The anime is quality, so I'm expecting them to somehow wrap everything up and link the plots in the last couple of episodes so the whole series (hopefully) will make sense.
 
02-03-09, 11:09 PM
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Well at least I finally found my favorite character in this show. I can't wait to see more Motoharu~ :3


 
02-04-09, 12:43 AM

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Can't decide my opinion on the new opening, i was REALLY fond of PSI MISSING so this will take some getting used to. I have to say the way things happened was a little less anti climactic than i was expecting, everything being a coincidence and all, but the eye candy of the angel fall thing engulfing the sky was totally worth it (i'm a giant sucker for magic shit).
 
02-04-09, 1:51 AM

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rofl who call the Angle Falls being caused by Touma's dad's collection of stuff? Me thats who lol! Wasn't expecting Misha to just disappear at the end though. The up side is Misha was a clone of the real Russian loli so hopefully we will meet her in the future.


we probably will see her again, since she appeared in the OP sequence.

this episode is just..WTH?? i wish they'll stop with all these mini arcs that have no relation whatsoever with the storyline.wait,what was the main plot again?


 
02-04-09, 2:50 AM

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I hate the new OP, the old song was really nice.
 
02-04-09, 4:57 AM

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This arc is a little bit rushed and I don't really like the new opening song. Probably, I'll get used to it but I think the first one is more better.
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02-04-09, 6:23 AM

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Huge problems with the pacing as usual, but still, I just love the whole setting.

So, let me try to fully understand this: Angel Fall was accidentaly caused by Touma's dad, which caused the angel Gabriel/Misha to fall to earth, resulting in distortions/body switching. So in order to return to heaven (or wherever Misha is from) she had to dispel the still incomplete Angel Fall before it was completed. And in the end she just decided to destroy everything with the Sweep to achieve that.

Am I missing something?
 
02-04-09, 3:40 PM

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Disappointing episode, rushed arc ending, pointless fight-like scene, repetating phrases.
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