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View Poll Results: Revolutionary Girl Utena Episode 39 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
107 72.79%
4 out of 5: Liked it
26 17.69%
3 out of 5: It was OK
7 4.76%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
4 2.72%
1 out of 5: Hated it
3 2.04%
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03-19-11, 10:57 PM

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Hethran said:

Then Utena gets impaled by thousands of swords and dies by Diabolus Ex Machina.

She doesn't die, as maarika she was simply being woken up for the illusion she has been living.

Great series and an amazing ending. I feel as if there were more things in the beginning and the middle of the series that had a importance that I missed. Definitely going to need to re-watch it at some point.

06-06-11, 1:01 AM

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I love how all things fall into the place in these last eps - and you possibly cannot spot it at once cause first time you are too focused on the story itself. Then you take your time to rewatch and... all conversation, weird habits and such finds closure in the final scene.

@maarika, thanks for verbalizing my thoughts - it was really helpful to dig deeper.

And I have this feeling that Anthy may actually know where Utena is - physically. She has to find her mentally, as Utena found her in this coffin. Cause this kind of painful discovery, this kind of painful growing-up may make you want to crawl in some dark place. And now it is Anthy's turn to free her and give her back this childlike joy.
07-11-11, 1:15 PM

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Definitely one of the best anime I've ever seen. I mean, sure, it wasn't perfect as it had repeating animation and kind of got repetitive at times.....but it was incredibly thought provoking, the Utena and Anthy relationship was positively charming, the directing was fantastic, the music was wonderful, and that had to be one of the most powerful endings I've ever seen. Right up their with the likes of Gunbuster, Cowboy Bebop, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, and End of Evangelion, in terms of favorite endings.

I kind of think of "leaving the school" as a mark of maturity..of "coming of age" if you will. I forgot her name , but in the Black Rose arc their was that one woman who graduated..and was much old than the others. My thinking is that Utena came to terms with her self and thus graduating, with Anthy soon following.
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08-06-11, 8:07 PM

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that was really beautiful. i wish all anime could be as meaningful as this. an anime hasn't made me feel this way in a long time. utena and anthy were really amazing characters and the student council was the best student council ive ever seen in an anime haha. i loved having an anime that had symbolism this profound but didnt leave me with a sour mind fucked kind of feeling (the kind where im like - yea this writer was on crack *cough madoka cough*)

i loved the retro feel of the anime and the music was AMAZING!

10/10 - this is the first ten ive given in a very long time. im glad penguindrum inspired me to watch this :) ikuhara is awesome!
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08-11-11, 9:32 PM

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The best part about this series was that build up song lol

LOL I missed it in the last episode, im like where is my awesome build up moment?
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08-13-11, 7:00 PM

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Wow! Great anime. Not the ending I expected or theorised about, and this is good.
Everything in Utena is a metaphor for something. The school life represents childhood, once you become an independent adult, you must get out of it and live your life. The revolution means to obtain independence and break the shell of childhood and innocence. Akio represented the male power that subjugates women, making them live as rose brides. Utena broke his vision by acting with strenght, trying to show that even a woman can live as a prince. And she lived as a prince to show Anthy that she must be strong and go live her life by herself, she doesn't need her brother as she believed. Her brother created that world for Anthy, trying to keep her in his eternal dependence, and both lived that childish sick incestuous fixation. But Utena showed her that an alternative is possible.
08-14-11, 2:25 PM

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0_0 what the hell happened? Okay, I honestly cannot see why people love this series so much. There were so much vague imagery, and the last 10 episodes were confusing as hell. The only good things about this series was the fact that it provided some good psycho analysis on every character (major and minor).

6/10 (I'm probably going to get impaled by a million "you just don't get it" swords. lol )
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08-22-11, 10:27 AM

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about the ending, i believe Utena did not die (notice no one dies except Ruka) she simply stop wanting to be a prince and left the school after saving/freeing Anthy

she still has a date with Anthy in 10 years time, i am sure they are meant to be reunited :)

also i feel the ending indicated everyone else moved on, except Akio

a bit confusing till the end, but i guess that is the purpose of this show, for us to find out ourselves the meanings (i dont mind a rewatch), i like the way they are presented

in terms of entertaintment, this is one of the best series, and overall it had became one of my favs all time
09-19-11, 5:23 AM

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Very very original series that's for sure. I'm going to watch it again at some point because I obviously missed a lot of points. The final chapter is extremely moving and Utena is a great character.
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11-21-11, 9:52 PM

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...So, wait... is Utena dead or not? I'M SO CONFUSED ;__;
11-22-11, 2:15 AM

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Dynneekx said:
...So, wait... is Utena dead or not? I'M SO CONFUSED ;__;

She's alive, that's why Anthy abandons her brother and sets out on a journey to find her. I believe one of the posters posted a link to an official artwork that hinted at Anthy ending up finding her.
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11-29-11, 10:34 PM

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Quite the splendid anime.
I didn't expect such a sweetbitter ending to the anime, but I am happy for the supporting characters that have gone on with their lives.

I have to say that I enjoyed the episodes filled with comedy a lot more, but the retraction back to the plot was always a great thing.

... I watched this because of Star Driver.
12-09-11, 5:43 AM

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Wow, that was extremely beautiful. I don't understand why people think Utena died. She obviously didn't. Watch the episode again. Anyhow, the symbolism was a lot to take in and every moment was beautiful. I really loved this anime. It pushed a lot of sexual boundaries which is something I really loved. There were a few pointless episodes that I really hated because they distracted from the main story line but all in all a wonderful series.
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01-06-12, 1:45 AM

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Wow, very great ending. There is a lot to take in here and a ton of symbolism, but I think that's one of the things that make this series so great. I'm too tired now, but maybe later on I'll add what I think this series was trying to say and what this ending meant in this discussion.

If not a 10/10 then very close for me, despite a few noticeable problems.
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01-08-12, 5:58 PM

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heh... decided to watch this after finishing Mawaru Penguindrum... tbh i got pretty bored because in the beginning and middle it was so repetitive with the duels, totally reminded me of star driver.. near the end it got way more interesting.. but couldn't bring myself to enjoy it as much as others just because of my preferences.. nonetheless, this was a good anime, but personally not my type to watch.. especially with the main protagonist being too easy in being woo'd. the last episode i guess has to be the best for me.. especially the last few seconds where Anthy decides to search for Utena..
01-22-12, 5:03 AM

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So in the end it was all about revolutionalizing individual worldviews. Akio's world is one where one bride has to bear the burden of never being fulfilled if everyone else is, or being hated by everyone if she is. The problem was that he can't access the power when it's only something he doesn't really want. Utena's belief you can just be what you want and try to save your friends was not possible as a world revolution so it didn't happen although everyone wanted it (Anthy and Utena). For Akio it was probably a shock because she was able to take it far enough to convince Anthy, but in the end it didn't work like he expected. It's pretty well written anime but kind of boring and not suble enough for me. 7/10
01-22-12, 9:05 PM

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VictimOfFate said:
It's pretty well written anime but kind of boring and not suble enough for me. 7/10

It couldn't be helped if you found the show boring, but seriously? You'd call all that symbolism 'not subtle enough'? It requires multiple viewings to get the meaning behind the imagery and the characters' nuances and body language, and to this day I learn something new about the characters and the plot every time I rewatch it.

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02-01-12, 10:49 AM

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Cool ending!!!!

but what makes me curious is, when Anthy told Akio, "Its ok, keep pretending to be a prince in your coffin" (something like that), what is that mean???
is it implying that Akio will be trapped forever in his own world? and what about all the student in school? will they ever graduate from school or will they trapped in the endless life in school?

And when Akio said that everyone forgot about Utena? is that true? did everyone including people close to her like Wakaba, Mickey, Touga, etc, eventually forgot who Utena is?? If that's true, that would be really sad... :(
05-04-12, 12:24 PM

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It was an enjoyable ending, although I probably didn't get all the nuances. Somewhat confusing owing to the fact they mixed up illusions and reality and in the end I'm not really sure why or where Utena disappeared. Maybe I'll read up on it and watch the movie.

The last ten episodes were great and the Nanami episodes too, but I feel the early part of the series had way too much repetition, particularly the fights. And I didn't like the way they kept introducing new characters only so that Utena could have a new opponent. The black rose arc was kind of silly, even as dark as it was. This anime explored many issues in original ways and had some very nice quirky humour (I assume Akio's photoshoot etc. were meant to be humorous) and for that I have to respect it, but because of the slow and repetitive beginning I don't think more than 7/10 is appropriate.
05-10-12, 12:44 AM

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i like how they changed the name of this show to its japanese title. it reminded me that i need to rewatch this series.

i hate it when people call this show nonsense and that people are overly looking into it/creating meaning when it doesnt exist. utena is genius story telling and animation. i hate when i hear that elfen lied is really deep because of its lessons about humanity and tolerance. there were so many better ways to make a show with profound hidden meaning. utena is deeper than elfen lied will ever be.

just wanted to get that off my chest.
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