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I rather hope for a Ryuuji and Taiga being like brother/sister ending instead of RyuujixTaiga.

Holy shat the build up, the fight and after that, was awesome. I lactated.

I'm guessin,
Ami saw the pic of Kitamura and Taiga in Taiga's wallet. Confirming Taiga loves Kitamura. Making Minorin's guilt of holding back her feelings for Ryuuji lifted, cause she thought Taiga likes Ryuuji.
Ami seems pissed that she isn't helping herself.
Taiga might go for Ryuuji now? Or continue fighting for Kitamura.
Cool shit.

I am truly impressed. I never thought Toradora could become something like this. So much detail and it is setting up for what could be an amazing finish.

Oh, so I like forgot to mention this but... What happened to the new OP/ED sequences?

Worst episode ever. It's like i was watching Dragon ball z.

From the subs at the part with Kitamura's picture in Taiga's wallet one of the girls apparently says "..underneath" right before Ami suddenly grabs it, so that could indicate that someone elses picture might be underneath, which in turn Ami could realise and is hiding it from others seeing.

Mind you, I could be reading things into it, since I'd be more for a Ryuuji x Taiga ending, which I think is how they've set it up from the start. But it's more the journey than the destination I suppose.

I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, I kinda feel you on that. The ZOMG SWORDFIGHT thing was really lame. The shounen fighting moments I could do without. Also, AN ASTRONAUT?! REALLY?!

hahah i lol'd when i saw that too.

yeah i really like where the story's going..i think some of the explanations/predictions made in this thread sound pretty accurate. i think minori's guilt was liking ryuuji but not wanting to steal him away from taiga. i also think that ami does have feelings for ryuuji..we'll see what happens with that though. i really hope it doesn't end up taigaxryuuji..

omg..sumire's face looked so messed up..how sad..but LOL at her kicking a shoe at taiga's face hahah

Holy shit. What an episode of win.

Best episode so far imho. I loved everything about it, and cried a bit... made me wish I could as selfless and kind as Sumire.

The best episode for me ^_^


I also agree that the guilt that Ami referred to was Minori on Ryuuji. It hit her so hard

I loved it :3
The fight scene was a bit over the line but still it was nice...
If girls could fight like that we would have huge probelms -.-

PS> Agree that Taiga is a violent bitch.
PS2> Ami fucking owns.
PS3> If in the end Riouji choose Taiga while Minorin loves him hes gonna be a mega retard. If you hunt down a girl make sure you like her FFS.
PS4> I would never never never never never confess like that 0.o

Yeah that was definately an awesome episode.

As far as the Minorin feeling guilty part, I believe Amin was referring to Minorin feeling guilty that Ryuuji likes her instead of Taiga, who before now she thought was in love with Ryuuji, but after seeing her fight so hard for Kitamura, she can rest easy that shes not stealing him away from Taiga. And the gritting of teeth on Amin's part, in my belief, is because she also has feelings for Ryuuji, but knows he likes Minorin, and by steering Minorin towards Ryuuji, she's doing it for his sake, not her own, and it pains her. She's basically doing what Minorin was doing when she thought Taiga liked Ryuuji, the roles have just shifted a bit.

Holy crap that was an excellent episode. I really love how this series is going, I can't say I've seen anything like it before, if this keeps up or gets any better it's going in my favorites.

Epic episode. The Minorin guilt thing was quite confusing, but the fight was interesting. I like how the Taiga charged in ^_^ Well, I practice kendo after all. The posters and flyers Taiga and Ryuji distributed in the beginning were hilarious. I guess new OP/ED starts next episode, as this one was quite logical arc ending.

I disagree. You seem to be making Ami out to be evil and she's not. She's arrogant, concieted, and spoiled but she really isn't manipulative. Although at times her actions may seem that way. She likes pushing Taiga for sure, but I see her and Taiga as extremely similar characters.

Ami has seen these people as her friends and she's created close bonds with them, that' can't be forgotten since it was explicitly expresssed in episode 13, I believe. So to think she'd be intentionally planning something so underhanded seems OOC for me. She adores Ryuuji and it's something that moved from tormenting Taiga to appreciating his kindness towards her, never judging her, and supporting her.

As for RxT----I think it's safe to say it's as likely as tomorrow is another day and that was established from the get go. I always wondered how people managed to think there was a guessing game.



I did mention Ami's face after her statement to Minorin, look at post #9.



I think she gave up on Kitamura in the last episode (15) and knew where his feelings lay. Plus after Kitamura's declaration there's no way that she's going to tread on those waters. I give her more credit than that.

I don't think Ami saw the picture as confirmation. Ami looked like she was fully aware about the second picture being Taiga and Ryuuji...not Kitamura so Ami is definitely the smartest one and she knows that Taiga may like Ryuuji. I think she did that scene in order to find a way to push Taiga totally out of the way and have Minorin be the main and sole competition. However, it could work both ways for her and she realizes that...plus I think she may be feeling guilty by doing something like that since on some level it is manipulative.

I don't think Taiga is moving towards Ryuuji yet.



Well I did comment on this in the first page. If you go to episode 14 you actually see what picture Taiga had underneath. It was a picture of her and Ryuuji doing that bidibidibidi-thing during the talent show. That's the picture Taiga has. Remember for a while she was collecting pictures of Ryuuji---like in that scene when they took pictures of Kitamura at baseball practice?! Ryuuji was one of those pictures. So I dont' think it's too hard to assume the direction of the story.



I agree on all points except 3. The main reason is that you have to keep in mind that Minorin went out of her way to continuously reject Ryuuji. So if he has moved on since that time I don't blame him. He's been pretty beat up by the rejections. There was one at the beach house, there was one in front of the picture wall when they were choosing their pics, there was the lesbian quip ( I saw as rejection) during the talent show, there was one (I felt) when they were going to find Kitamura in ep 15. Every ep Minorin rejected Ryuuji. So why would he be the retard if she comes to like but he's changed his mind?



I think we can surmise one thing. When it comes to understanding Minorin, none of us have a clue. None of us know what her guilt was except for Ami. And based on Minorin's reaction Ami was right. I guess we have to wait for episode 17 to really find out the truth.

By the way I love the shoe moment.

most emotional episode yet. really loved it.

A very good episode. By far one of my favorite episodes.

I very much enjoyed the fight scene and found it fitting. You could tell Sumire cared for Kitamura when she was talking to Ryuuji by making a clenched fist because her words were painful to even her, but she wasn't going to budge from her stance. Words sometimes just aren't enough to make someone reveal the hidden truths they hold deep inside.

What Ryuuji couldn't reveal with words, Taiga would do with what she knows best for Kitamura. Taiga is Taiga after all. There was really no other way she would have attempted to resolve the issue between Kitamura and Sumire. I don't think it would have showed properly how deeply both of the women truly cared about Kitamura if Taiga didn't. It was kind of both painful and touching to watch that both of their actions were for Ryuuji sake no matter how misplaced they might have been and the length Taiga went to reveal them.

The guilt that Ami spoke of to Minorin I think is more than one thing. I think Ami guessed that Minorin probably does carry guilt that she is developing feelings for Ryuuji. I still think she is also still carrying the guilt of feeling jealous of Taiga and Ryuuji's friendship. She revealed that to Ryuuji, but Minorin has yet to reveal that to Taiga, her closest friend. Both instances are probably weighing very heavily on her. What i am looking forward to is seeing how she tells Taiga of either of them.

I think also Ami cares very deeply for Ryuuji otherwise as Quantumfluxx stated she wouldn't have called Minorin out on her feeling guilty. Ryuuji is the first person for Ami to both see and know her true nature yet still accepts her. Ryuuji is also outside of Kitamura the only guy that treats her as just a girl not some celebrity. Without him knowing, he has done trivial things that have meant so much to her. I think Ami hates herself for telling Minorin. She knows that will widen the gap even further between her and Ryuuji. I think Ami has finally found someone important to her, but Ryuuji is still beyond her reach since his eyes do not see her. So instead of Ami's happiness she is thinking of Ryuuji's which is I am sure something very new to her.

This episode was great, but I feel really sad for Kitamura.. That fighting scene was really insane xD

Taiga ... good job ... ^^ i think she needed that fight (and wanted that)
and to laugh about she letter prooves it ^^

Taigha is a one way train she wont change so easy so its
only the fight Ami-chi vs. Minorin ^^ go Ami-chi go ^^