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I don't get it, what guilt (Minorin) is Ami talking about? Is it the guilt from secretly liking Kitamura but cheered Taiga on?

Anyway, I don't think i need to say more, this episode is just great.

6/5

Dunno. I can't even analyze that. At this point, I've come to one realization...Ami loves to torment Minorin and I love her more for it.

I just saw the ep and may I say I loved it. I didn't understand a word except when Ryuuji said to Kitamura-kun, America and Kanou Sumire. Beyond that I was lost. But the artwork was the shizite.

I think I'll wait until the subs to add a bit more but I loved it. I think I liked it, because the fight between the girls was one, something brimming underneath the surface since episode 3 when Kanou was first introduced. Secondly, because it reminded me of fights between girls in my all girls school. When fights broke out, you make way and no one got involved. At least these girls seemed to have martial arts discipline...girls around my way used everything. From desk chairs, to text books, to their backpacks. Some would say how my school would allow it, it wasn't an every day thing but when it happened it was all out.

Great ep, again I'll add more when the subs come out. Oh and it was good to know I was on the right track about Kitamura-kun and Kanou-Kun.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. What an intense episode. man.



Also, funny scene :P


I feel kind of bad for Taiga, but it seems like she's ok with what happened.

Oh My God SOOO Epic 100/10.. That was on the same Epic level as Clannad, My God I love this show!

"After the fight Amin and her friends discover Taiga’s notebook with the picture of her and Yuusaku in it. Minori sees this - realizing that Taiga likes Yuusaku - and there’s another picture under that one, but Ami takes the book before anyone can see it. Ami then suggests that Minori’s guilt should be gone now"

Remember the last ep?
Minorin slowly realizes her feelings for Ryuuji...
BUT: She thinks Ryuuji and Taiga make the perfect couple and although Taiga denied it, Minorin thought she is in love with him.

The guilty feeling Amin is talking about, are the fakt that she has started to love Ryuuji, but doesnt want to steal him from Taiga. Therefore she called herself dishonest an disguisting?
Now she gets to know that Taiga actually was in love with Kitamura, so now she is free to love Ryuuji with no guilt!

I don't think Amin wanted to torment Minorin, but i thought Amin didn't want to support Minorin but Taiga, cause she always pointed to Ryuuji that Minorin isn't the right one for him.

Whatever..

The resolution of this arc was pretty obvious and it was so clear that Kitamura was in love with Sumire. I liked the fight and the outcome with Sumire confessing to.

Next Episode seems a little bit relaxing and a little distant from drama content, before the mainstory progresses to the TaigaXMinorinXRyuuji Triangle, that is obviously happening in the future, because, although Taiga didn't realize herself yet, she has begun to grow romantic feelings for Ryuuji too. I hope this series doesn't go the 0815 route with a TaigaXRyuuji paring at the end. ;)

Also im very interestet what Amins part will become..
Priviously my thoughts were, that she also secretly is in love with Kitamura, but her reactions this episode prove me wrong.

I need to watch the subs. There was just waaaaay too much dialogue to process. But wow that was some serious business folks.

Brownie points for me for making the prediction couple episodes earlier :P

In the case of the last ep...I didn't see anything of the sort where Minorin recognized her feelings for Ryuuji far from it actually. In this ep, again no translations yet for me to know what Minori said to Taiga. However, I do understand your point and it's valid.

Well I've always known that eventually, or I should say speculated, Minorin would come to have feelings for Ryuuji despite always saying she doesn't want to have anything to do with him. Then she might confess but just end up alone in the end because it would be too late.

So that was a gimme to me. As for Ami. I don't again know what to make of her yet, considering I haven't seen the subs to analyze, but I can say that I don't think she supports Taiga. Remember in episode 13 and/or 14 Ami said twice to Ryuuji that Taiga, along with Minori, weren't good enough for him. So it's not like she is supportive of Taiga, that's far from the case. So I saw no other reason that she wants to torment Minorin. The thing is, I find she could do the same thing to Taiga, but she wouldn't get away with it if it was Taiga. Not to mention Taiga has a deeper relationship with Ryuuji than Minorin could ever have, so Minorin is less of a threat to her affections for Ryuuji if Minorin actively pursued Ryuuji and ultimately drew him away from Taiga. Taiga has more power without realizing it.

Ah now i get it, so Minorin likes Ryuji, and felt guilty for wanting to steal him from Taiga. But now that pic proved that Taiga really does like Kitamura, she don't have to go through that betrayal feeling.



hmm.. i'm guessing that's a pic of Taiga and Ryuji, probably Ami took it before anyone can see it to prevent Minorin from getting hurt. Can't be sure though :/

Basically...but I think the picture that Minorin heard might have tipped it towards that angle...however I think it was Ami's words that really might make her go that direction. But again, I think it will be on deaf ears and she might get rejected in the end.



I just wanted to specify something if you were not sure or not aware. I was quoting dudave; the quote you listed as mine was actually his/hers.

You're most definitely right that the hidden pic is of Taiga and Ryuuji this was pushed from episode 14...it's the most logical scenario/conclusion.

Deathfired {http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=61359&show=60}, post #64, a poster mentioned how Taiga bought a picture of Ryuuji and her---the bidibidibidibi one in episode 14. At first I disagreed, but when I re-watched the episode a few times---and once in slow motion with my sister, you actually do see what picture Taiga was looking at which was the one I mentioned. You don't see it at first but you do know she wasn't looking for the Kitamura and her picture.

It's the scene where Ryuuji says you want picture 130 or something like that...but that wasn't the number she was writing down. I'm starting to think when Ami took the book and said what she said it might have been a mistake on her part. She looked angry after she said...since that gives Minorin some leverage and cause to go after Ryuuji who wants her and she's rejected in the past. For whatever reason it may be. However, I do think this could help Ami in the long run if only to push at least one of the other girls in his life out of the way....Taiga. <---But only someone manipulative would think something like that and I don't see Ami as manipulative at all. A spoiled princess but not manipulative.

Donno if you guys might've missed it or not; right after the ED song there is a little more about the story :D

I saw it. :D Taiga writes a postcard to Madame Ex-President which says one thing..."Baka!" It was brilliant. ^_^

This place needs emoticons. :D

UGH. boo to emoticons. People will abuse them. hehe

Yay for Taiga kicking the president's ---! I wanted more. I want to see more Minorin now. I'm ready. I mean I want the same amount of Taiga and Ryuuji goodness, but it's time for more Minorin now.

I already want episode 17. *Sigh.

OMG nice analysis people. But here's another thing most of you should've noticed, after the scene about the whole "Guilt" thing. Amin sort of bit her lip. This most probably translated into the following...

inside ami's head: "Sh*t, now I got to deal with Minori trying to steal Ryujii from me"

Anyways, the fight scene was just awesome. If only fighting in class was that cool, I would pick a fight every single day.

Happy Viewing people

This was definitely a great episode. It finally resolved Kitamura and Sumire's relationship and leaned more towards the TaigaxKitamura angle.

Taiga fighting with Sumire was just awesome. Lolz at the shoe kicked into Taiga's face. Although I kind of hax'd when Taiga suddenly pulled out a wooden sword from her back. Her being so short... how does it even fit there? Unless it's a short wooden sword... but how would she even sit comfortably like that?

I don't think Ami was trying to support Taiga or anyone else for that matter. She was just completely neutral and letting the events play out. The supar sekret pic underneath the TaigaxKitamura infers that Taiga could still be having mixed emotions for Ryuuji. I believe that Ami took the wallet before they saw the pic and asked Minori about the guilt to give her a chance. I don't think Ami is the type of person to manipulate others but also the type to actively go after Ryuuji like that. She secretly likes him but doesn't want to openly admit that thus she just "jokingly" flirts around and gives the other two their chances.

Lolz at them having the generic big chested blonde American girl at the end with Sumire.

All right, I've calmed down from emotional echo watching this episode.

Pretty much my summary... perhaps we see through Taiga and Ryuuji's plot. She attempts to elect herself as student council in order to get Kitamura back to his old self, and that became obvious later. Kitamura actually loved the student council Kanou all along, as she was the one who made him stand out ever since the Taiga incident beginning of high school. Some of Kitamura's traits, antics, and energetic behaviors were all actually inspired by his beloved one. And finally, he confessed during the election.

And man, I'm just speechless with what happened after that. Kanou is actually being fully considerate towards Kitamura but is misunderstood by Ryuuji and Taiga. Also noted that that was one of the times Taiga really NEED Ryuuji, when she asked him to be in his friend's side and she can be no use. And suddenly... Taiga reveals her wooden sword from the back of her shirt! After that, Te Nori Taiga does what she do best in making her name infamous all around school.

The aftermath was just so tearjerker. I never expected it from Kanou and Kitamura. And then it was just so damn funny... Taiga got suspended for 2 weeks and sent the "apology" letter. XD

Very excellent writing again in an episode filled with epic win. Questions arises though. Right now, I'm confused why is Minori upset. Perhaps Minori knew Taiga loved Kitamura all long? And why is Ami also upset? Was she also interested with Kitamura despite of being long time childhood friends?

great epic episode. Its gud thing kitamura let out what he kept in his heart for soo long. and at the same time the person he loves also knows it+acknowledged it which makes both side clear of their burdens. now on minori's case, since she now know how taiga genuinely loved kitamura, she definitely can be honest with her own feelings, instead of burdening them inside to her self ;)

WAH! WHERE CAN I FIND THIS EPISODE? DD:

you people say ami isn't manipulating things but i think she is, kinda biding her time till everything falls into place... but i doubt that will happen. i see this series slowing going to a taiga x ryuuji ending, but god i hope not

Holy Sweet Fucking Zombie Raptor Jesus. I don't really need to summarize again, the fight scene was fantastic, and Kitamura has mad balls, Taiga pulling a sword out of her clothes is mad hax too. I was saddened by the sheer lack of Minori though, and the sheer lack of Minori lulz. Oh well, fantastic episode, and while a little predictable a great way to end the arc.



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