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| Saying Saber is the strongest servant class is misleading though: that class is the strongest because it's the most well-rounded one. But the other Knight classes(Archer and Lancer) are also pretty badass. Lancer is handicapped by that E luck stat though. A tangent with F/SN Berseker |
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AidanAK47 said: Fai said: You are talking about CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. Calling it a "harem" is not that accurate. You can't even REALLY make choices in romance, as one route follows the other. The main focus is however interactions and characters - you have those people touched by the previous war - namely Shiro, Rin, Sakura and Saber - and you see them interact, come to different various conclusions about life and overall grow up. After all, all three routes are the metaphor for |
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CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. It's not a harem. Yes there is romance involved but it doesn't take away from the story. HF is actually pretty mature. |
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CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. Heaven's Feel is not a harem (well...you could argue that the last Bad Ending is one but yeah...). HF is similar in tone to Fate/Zero and I think Urobuchi found inspiration for F/Z from the HF route. Certainly when HF directly challenges Shirou on whether he should be like Kiritsugu or not(The ending where he does chose to be like Kiristugu is the Mind of Steel ending) and HF also features Kotomine at his most badass. |
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 CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. You'll be surprised, Heaven's Feel so much different than Fate first Route, Shirou is also really different, you can see it by looking here: |
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makouz789 said: CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. You'll be surprised, Heaven's Feel so much different than Fate first Route, Shirou is also really different, you can see it by looking here: Shirou is only bad in FSN anime adaptation, to be honest. Fate shirou is idealistic as fuck, but his character development and background makes that idealism sort of bittersweet and contrasts him with Kotomine, since UBW shirou is best shirou - HF Shirou is Interpreting SHirou based on his DEEN failadaptation's character is one of biggest mistakes ever, considering Shiro is one of the most complex and unique protagonists in narrative fiction ever. |
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CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. Your Opinion isn't supported by the majority, at least the solid fanbase doesn't. Ragna92 said: It's not a harem. Yes there is romance involved but it doesn't take away from the story. HF is actually pretty mature. Actually it somewhat is, even nasu has stated this several times during those old interviews at that time when the game had all the hype, but yeah while there is harem elements and there is romance, it doesn't affect the story all that much, but it is based on an eroge after all. you don't have to tell people what they want to hear to make them feel better, FSN is what it is, if you don't like Fanservice, or romance, or harem, or action or anything the title has to offer, then it isn't for you, you can just skip it, and i'm talking generally here. also Fate/Zero feels much more mature is because Gen Urobuchi, he's known for his gore-oriented and dark stuff ever since Saya no uta, or maybe even before. so yes, there is a difference between the two, if you liked one you won't necessarily like the other, but if you're a solid fan then you'll like both. |
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AbZeroNow said: Heaven's Feel is not a harem (well...you could argue that the last Bad Ending is one but yeah...). HF is similar in tone to Fate/Zero and I think Urobuchi found inspiration for F/Z from the HF route. Certainly when HF directly challenges Shirou on whether he should be like Kiritsugu or not(The ending where he does chose to be like Kiristugu is the Mind of Steel ending) and HF also features Kotomine at his most badass. The game as a whole has harem elements, not only Heaven's feel, HF was a bit serious , but it still had harem/romance undertones. |
BloodRequiem said: Obligatory Do you have to rub it in? :[ Studio Deen - animating in flash and overall ruining shit since gods know when. CurrentUsername said: Was it officially stated that they're making HF? Or speculations? Speculation. It does not really makes sense to just adapt one route, considering they all sort of set up each other and help to explain each other. JUST HF adaptation would be...lifeless. |
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CurrentUsername said: After reading all these comments about HF being a harem/romance show I'm starting to lose the hype. I mean, I loved Gen Urobuchi F/Z novel, however I really disliked F/SN. F/z felt so much more mature, as I said before, there was no redundant fan service, no schools or teenagers, everything felt much more "realistic", plus Kiritsugu isn't full of crap compared to Shiro. HF is only a Route in Fate/stay night, the series as a whole is sort of harem, no one is forcing you to like F/SN just because it has something you're not into, if you're a fan of Urobuchi and expect F/SN to be the same as F/Z then i suggest you pass on this one, same goes for everyone out there who's going to make the same complaints. |
| I knew it was coming sooner or later, but I didn't think it would be announced sooner. Also, HEAVEN'S FEEL GOGOGO |
| Wow. Good news. Since it is ufotable, the quality is something to look forward to. |
| Good news of the day! Even better if will really be HF. |
| Good, I think animating HF is the best option since it's sort of complimenting Fate/Zero. Shiro simply went all Kiritsugu, just without And of course, we have a proper conclusion with And it's always worth it to see Gilgamesh I just hope Nasu will rewrite some things so she can improve the HF original script and possibly add some things so it could works well as stand alone without presence of other routes. I have no idea how, though. |
Shocked said: I knew it was coming sooner or later, but I didn't think it would be announced sooner. Also, HEAVEN'S FEEL GOGOGO Will never understand people like this. You do realize that without adapting the REST of VN, HF adaptation would make as much sense as Deen's dreaded UBW butchering in the movie? |
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| Ugh not the worst fuckin route in the whole novel. =_= after they butchered Unlimited Blade works with the movie =_= |
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Darklight0303 said: Ugh not the worst fuckin route in the whole novel. =_= after they butchered Unlimited Blade works with the movie =_= Pretty much how I feel. Not a worst rote for me though(fate is worse), but HF certainly is not as strong as UBW and lives solely on those few incredibly badass scenes, that ALSO only make sense in context of whole VN. Adapting JUST HF would be shooting themselves in the foot though. |
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Fai said: Darklight0303 said: Ugh not the worst fuckin route in the whole novel. =_= after they butchered Unlimited Blade works with the movie =_= Pretty much how I feel. Not a worst rote for me though(fate is worse), but HF certainly is not as strong as UBW and lives solely on those few incredibly badass scenes, that ALSO only make sense in context of whole VN. Adapting JUST HF would be shooting themselves in the foot though. The only good thing to come from HF is Dark Saber and Casual wear Rider. That's it. The rest is just beyond fucked up and stupid. |
Darklight0303 said: Fai said: Darklight0303 said: Ugh not the worst fuckin route in the whole novel. =_= after they butchered Unlimited Blade works with the movie =_= Pretty much how I feel. Not a worst rote for me though(fate is worse), but HF certainly is not as strong as UBW and lives solely on those few incredibly badass scenes, that ALSO only make sense in context of whole VN. Adapting JUST HF would be shooting themselves in the foot though. The only good thing to come from HF is Dark Saber and Casual wear Rider. That's it. The rest is just beyond fucked up and stupid. Everything else is quite meh and frankly the whole Still hoping ufotable won't be idiotic and will just adapt all routes one after other. |
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CurrentUsername said: The thing I hate the most about HF, after reading wiki is Why would you do that? |
CurrentUsername said: The thing I hate the most about HF, after reading wiki is |
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Fai said: Shocked said: I knew it was coming sooner or later, but I didn't think it would be announced sooner. Also, HEAVEN'S FEEL GOGOGO Will never understand people like this. You do realize that without adapting the REST of VN, HF adaptation would make as much sense as Deen's dreaded UBW butchering in the movie? It's a personal preference. Yeah, adapting the first two routes would make sense, but I'm concerned if they don't get straight to Heaven's Feel, which I feel is important since it ties Fate/Stay Night to Fate/zero. Yes, the Deen adaptations weren't all that, but they still exist. I'm not sure what would happen if ufotable re-animated them. Will people go nuts over the revamp? Will people not care because they think they've seen it already? Besides updating the looks, what else could ufotable add to the two previous route adaptations? How would they deal with the "resets" in between? Would this affect how many episodes are dedicated to each route? Just a couple things that came to mind. It would actually be interesting to see how the fandom would react, including people who have read the novel, people who have only seen the Deen versions, and people who have seen neither.And yes, Heaven's Feel in the visual novel has the highest amount of H scenes, has a crapton of kitchen scenes, focuses on the, arguably, most boring heroine, and I believe the high amount of bad ends, stuff like Mind of Steel, Sparks Liner High, and Femme Fatal, were probably the best parts of Heaven's Feel, and we probably won't be seeing those. Now that I think about it, a Tsukihime revamp would had been better since Fate has already gotten a lot of treatment. Still, I'm hoping to see Heaven's Feel animated since it's the last part of the visual novel that hasn't been, but either ways, the fact that ufotable is giving attention to Fate/Stay Night is already good news, so I'll be happy with whatever happens. |
| im kinda unsure about this. i enjoyed fate/stay but got bored at bits and found the ending a bit plain. loved unlimited blade works. didnt have much of an opinion on fate/zero (didnt care mostly) so im on the fence about this one. still see how it goes........although might not bother (can't stand sakura) |
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CurrentUsername said: Fai said: CurrentUsername said: The thing I hate the most about HF, after reading wiki is |
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| i just hope it won't be just a remake of the FSN route but an actual adaption of HF. don't want to wait another 4 years for HF. |
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Kurogashi said: i just hope it won't be just a remake of the FSN route but an actual adaption of HF. don't want to wait another 4 years for HF. You NEED to remake fate for it all to make sense though - most of lore set up happens in fate and prologue. Without it and without UBW, HF would make no sense at all. Shocked said: It's a personal preference. Yeah, adapting the first two routes would make sense, but I'm concerned if they don't get straight to Heaven's Feel, which I feel is important since it ties Fate/Stay Night to Fate/zero. All routes directly tie to fate/ero. HF simply ties to Sakura plotline of fate/ero. UBW ties to Tohsaka and Kiritsugu plotlines of Fate/Zero, while fate ties to fate/zero epilogue itself. Shocked said: Yes, the Deen adaptations weren't all that, but they still exist. I'm not sure what would happen if ufotable re-animated them. Doing the same stuff FMA:Brotherhood did - ignoring they exist. Shocked said: Will people go nuts over the revamp? Will people not care because they think they've seen it already? Besides updating the looks, what else could ufotable add to the two previous route adaptations? But they did not SEE it already - nothing in fate anime was in anyway similar to novel - they had Saber fight freaking gilgamesh as prologue for gods sake. The RIn prologue would already establish this as different from previous work. Apart from having SOME similar elements, the flow of story is entirely different. Shocked said: How would they deal with the "resets" in between? flashforwards to ataraxia storyline with That way they can then release Ataraxia stuff as a series of OVAs latter on. Shocked said: Would this affect how many episodes are dedicated to each route? Twelve eps per route works fine for me. Shocked said: It would actually be interesting to see how the fandom would react, including people who have read the novel, people who have only seen the Deen versions, and people who have seen neither. Sufficient amount of time has passed. ALMOST TEN YEARS have passed since previous adaptation. Majority of people have no idea what FSN adaptation was. If Brotherhood worked out just fine, this would too. Shocked said: And yes, Heaven's Feel in the visual novel has the highest amount of H scenes, has a crapton of kitchen scenes, focuses on the, arguably, most boring heroine, and I believe the high amount of bad ends, stuff like Mind of Steel, Sparks Liner High, and Femme Fatal, were probably the best parts of Heaven's Feel, and we probably won't be seeing those. Which is why it needs other routes. HF works infinitely better with other routes before it as a backdrop. That way you can care about characters who get shafted without even speaking a word. Shocked said: Now that I think about it, a Tsukihime revamp would had been better since Fate has already gotten a lot of treatment. Still, I'm hoping to see Heaven's Feel animated since it's the last part of the visual novel that hasn't been, but either ways, the fact that ufotable is giving attention to Fate/Stay Night is already good news, so I'll be happy with whatever happens. You mean Tsukihime adaptation, since it never got an anime, right? And I feel that just adapting HF would be like shooting themselves in the foot - viewers would be unable to connect with material or make sense out of it as too much time has passed since DEEN's failadaptation. Also adapting all routes makes more sense as a way to promote Realta Nua Vita game, especially since ufotable animated scenes for other routes anyway CurrentUsername said: |
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Itachi_0893 said: zeroyuki92 said: Good, I think animating HF is the best option since it's sort of complimenting Fate/Zero. Shiro simply went all Kiritsugu, just without And of course, we have a proper conclusion with And it's always worth it to see Gilgamesh I just hope Nasu will rewrite some things so she can improve the HF original script and possibly add some things so it could works well as stand alone without presence of other routes. I have no idea how, though. Shirou goes like Kiritsugu in UBW, while in Heavens feel is the contrary he is the exact opposite to Kiritsugu, he just throws all his sense of justice because of one woman. ^ THIS. In UBW Shirou |
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| On side note this makes me want fate/2, with Edelfelt, Rin and Shirou hijinks three years latter. |
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| Disliked the Stay/Night, loved the Zero series. I'm totally checking this one out, though my main problem is with the protagonist... Not even close in being as awesome as Kiritsugu. Well, I haven't read the visual novel yet, so don't really know what to expect. |
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Fai said: Kurogashi said: i just hope it won't be just a remake of the FSN route but an actual adaption of HF. don't want to wait another 4 years for HF. You NEED to remake fate for it all to make sense though - most of lore set up happens in fate and prologue. Without it and without UBW, HF would make no sense at all. wut are these lores? |
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