| I see they are trying to go the Beyblade / Yugioh route LOL. Buy those Gundam toys and models! You can tell Sunrise is really trying to get those young new viewers. In Valvrave they put all that social media junk in there. They should of just put in a mechanic where the robots get stronger with the amount of "Likes" and online friends requests =P. |
| So they're doing this the same time as Valvrave S2? Anyways... Corpse69 said: you had me at gundam and lost me at build fighters |
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morshuwarrior said: skudoops said: morshuwarrior said: I'm probably the minority on this, but this looks incredibly entertaining! I honestly would rather have this instead of Origins, maybe because, oh I don't know, origins is the same as the original 1979 series? Yeah that's probably it. I think you are definitely in a minority (of gundam fans) at least who share this opinion. Given sunrise's animation quality, who doesn't want to see Origins re-done and (I am not sure if they are doing this) reworked to remove some of the more tedious areas. It would indeed be great to see it re-done with new animation and in HD and I am looking forward to Origins as well, but I feel like this new title gives something fresh and original. The Gunpla OVA was far too short and I've been wanting more of it ever since I saw that. Btw, regarding that its targeted towards kids too, I couldn't care less, as long as it's entertaining all is fine by me. Even though I wasn't a fan of the original Gundam I would like to see what it would look like with today's animation maybe my opinion will change on the story as well. I don't care about age ratings when it comes to my anime or entertainment either as long as it makes me happy and keeps me coming back for more its doing its job. I at least hope that the sells are better across the board than AGE which basically failed in everything except OP/ED singles. |
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Exblaster said: KayChan4U said: And why do all the new Gundam series look so kiddish. It looks worse than Gundam Age. Probably not watching until Gundam steps their game up and gets their shit together when it was cool like Wing/Seed/00 and all the older ones. ... Okay... Since you said 00 is cool, which aired in 2007, but you made no mention of the Unicorn OVA... So what you're saying is that Unicorn is kiddish like the rest of the newer gundam shows after 00... You disgust me... Not enough of that "mature" pretty boys bullshit for you? Come back again after you watch more than just SEED, Wing and 00... 00 was Asimov-inspired take on Gundam and a brilliant one at that that more than made up for bullshit that was SEED/SEED Destiny. Unicorn was a pointless well-animated fanfic. AGE and this atrocity are just plain trash on other hand. |
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Fai said: 00 was Asimov-inspired take on Gundam and a brilliant one at that that more than made up for bullshit that was SEED/SEED Destiny. Unicorn was a pointless well-animated fanfic. AGE and this atrocity are just plain trash on other hand. Better than SEED? Yeah sure definitely. But making the male characters effeminate as fucking hell is pushing it. Pointless fanfic? What the? *checks list* Holy fuck you gave it a 1... |
ExblasterJul 3, 2013 9:25 AM
jmal said: To be fair, the character you chose for your example is a bit of a special case. =P fine heres more jmal said: Also Gundam did the bishie thing in at least Wing long before 00... I am aware of that but eh.. I think ZZ Gundam says hi |
| Well, I enjoyed the Gunpla Builders OVA so this might actually be fun. |
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| Yeah, I think I'll pass on it and just wait until the next series comes out in how ever many years that'll be. |
| Oh I missed this news earlier. So this was the announcement related to July 2nd's announcement. Oh well, I'm a mecha fan so I'll give it a shot. As for the designs, recent Gundam series are a little different for me also compared to 00 and SEED. |
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| I honestly like the direction of this new anime, the same reason I liked Gunpla Builders. If they can deliver good fights without the story looking down on the viewers intellect, then this is going to be as good as any shonen competition type shows. This is how you target younger audience, Sunrise. Not by forcing them space war drama with a story that's dumbed down to their level. and lol people complaining about something not targeted at them "entitled much"? Just skip this if you're not interested. Same thing I did with that failure called AGE. |
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| Aww..Gunpla...well as long as this is as good or better as the last Gunpla OVA, sure why not. |
jmal said: Exblaster said: fine heres more A degree of androgyny was part of the point with the Innovators or whatever they were called. ^this. pansexuality(or in this case more of asexuality) was part of the point of those characters, considering they Its also fitting with utilitarian futuristic ideas of writers like A.C.Clarke and I.Asimov - a future based on science, logic and transcendence can only be possible if humanity throws away complexes and phobias that restrict them and yes that involves sexuality and gender being non-factor in how a person is viewed or treated. |
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hyakushikimaru said: That first gunpla anime or ova or whatever that they made, they animated the HI-Nu Gundam. Sounds great! NOT! They had this immature brat pilot that godly mobile suit and his poor piloting skills completely embarrassed the Nu Gundam and it was easily destroyed more than once... Amuro Ray must have been rolling over in his grave So you can say it is great they are reanimating mobile suits like rig shokew and dijeh, but if those "young, but ambitious" kiddies act like complete pussies and ruin the show, such efforts will be worthless. To be fair that Hi Nu was piloted by some idol pretty boy who isnt even half as good as Amuro. If it were Amuro, he wouldve sensed that beam from behind and either easily dodge it or block it. A super powerful suit doesnt mean it unbeatable even if its piloted by a so so pilot. Hell I'm willing to bet that Katz piloting the Hi-Nu would get shot down by the Beginning Gundam. |
hyakushikimaru said: On the other hand, these gunpla kiddies in that ova are getting emotional over plastic models. Reminds me of the "heart of the cards" from the kid's anime yu-gi-oh. You do realize that's the intention of this new anime, selling more GunPlas and it's more obvious than Age that this time Sunrise is just focusing on the younger audience and the Gunpla hobbyist. What's the best way to appeal to a younger audience and guarantees sales, a competitive battle story with "customizable" objects (in this case gundams). |
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hyakushikimaru said: So this leaves fans like myself in anger that no good gundam animes are coming out... but there is little we can do about it, so I am left expressing my discontent here lol. and Unicorn takes too long to come out. I got some good news for you. http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/07/gundam-35th-anniversary-2014-2015.html |
| Can't wait to see the Shining Gundam Shining-Fingering the asses of the other gundams^^ |
Fai said: what is this I don't even. I guess that's TWO failure gundam series in row then. This. I couldn't agree more. Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. Couldn't believe they kept that kiddy, stupid art style just to sell toys. It should be equal parts story, politics, character, and robots, not just robots. |
Brockemsockem said: Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. oi http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/07/gundam-35th-anniversary-2014-2015.html scroll down to the last 2 pics |
| So much entitled fanboys here. Gundam Age failed miserably because it tried appeal to the younger audience with the usual gundam plot, in result the kids didn't watch it because they couldn't understand the appeal of Space war drama, Sunrise said it themselves. Now they're doing the right formula intended for the younger audience and you're getting angry at it? It's not like they abandoned the core fans, like Brigandi posted You'll get your dose of "adult gundam" in 2014, so try to stay alive until then. |
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Brigandi said: Brockemsockem said: Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. oi http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/07/gundam-35th-anniversary-2014-2015.html scroll down to the last 2 pics hoooo boy. another uc rehash. how exciting *sarcasm* |
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| Interesting new Gundam series but seeing as how Gundam AGE was poorly received especially by majority of mainstream Gundam fans(UC and non-UC) last year, I really would wish this new series will uplift Bandai and Sunrise once again and give at least the disappointed Tomino a bit of smile. |
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Brockemsockem said: Fai said: what is this I don't even. I guess that's TWO failure gundam series in row then. This. I couldn't agree more. Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. Couldn't believe they kept that kiddy, stupid art style just to sell toys. It should be equal parts story, politics, character, and robots, not just robots. I agree. Even Tomino himself is facepalmed at the current Gundam series trend. Anyway, Origin will be a good redeemer. |
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skudoops said: Fai said: Brigandi said: Brockemsockem said: Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. oi http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/07/gundam-35th-anniversary-2014-2015.html scroll down to the last 2 pics hoooo boy. another uc rehash. how exciting *sarcasm* Better than the gundam shows targeted toward women like 00 and wing. Oh lookie, obligatory sexist/misogynist post of the thread. We surely needed one of those. If you meant "aimed towards fanservice" and the derogatory usage of female gender stereotypes was unintentional, I will still laugh, because 00 is wee bit far too deep into metaphysics of universe and human nature to be enjoyed as "fanservice". |
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Fai said: Brigandi said: Brockemsockem said: Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. oi http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/07/gundam-35th-anniversary-2014-2015.html scroll down to the last 2 pics hoooo boy. another uc rehash. how exciting *sarcasm* Which one is the rehash? Can you please be more specific? Also not like 00 hasn't rehash anything... Gundam Meister = Wing boys A-Laws = Titans Innovators = Newtypes Trans-am = V-MAX (SPT Layzner) + F91 Gundams after image |
Brigandi said: Fai said: Brigandi said: Brockemsockem said: Gundam looks like it's doing down the tubes at this rate. oi http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/07/gundam-35th-anniversary-2014-2015.html scroll down to the last 2 pics hoooo boy. another uc rehash. how exciting *sarcasm* Which one is the rehash? Can you please be more specific? Also not like 00 hasn't rehash anything... Gundam Meister = Wing boys A-Laws = Titans Innovators = Newtypes Trans-am = V-MAX (SPT Layzner) + F91 Gundams after image Congratulations on noticing that gundam is multiverse of repeating themes. Here's a cookie. That's still far better and fresher and with more variations and differences(00 Meisters being far more fleshed out and far more complex characters than Wing's pretty boys, which is a given considering 00 is best parts of UC merged with best parts of Wing) than "oh look, another pointless story that claims to be canon in UC verse" |
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| You still havent said whats the damn UC rehash. If its G Reko, you do know that the story takes place 1000 year in the UC universe right? |
Brigs77Jul 5, 2013 9:17 AM
| The Gundam fanbase is starting to remind me of the angry Kyoani fans that think producers shouldn't be allowed to attract different demographics than the core base. Like look I'm a pretty huge fan of Sunrise, I like their sci-fi stuff a lot typically, I see that they do something like Love Live which isn't really for my demographic of fandom. I don't begrudge them for it and demand they do more Accel World or Horizon instead. I appreciate there's a studio out there that's interested in providing some variety and mix of content and style even within the same franchise and will try to appeal to all demographics and fanbases regardless of the fact that it's not always going to result in huge profits. To paraphrase my favorite quote from Mad Men to describe my outlook on these sorts of situations "Hate's a strong word. I hate fanboys. I don't like cutesy harem shows. They bother me. I don't like watching them. I don't hate them...I'm an adult." |
PeacingOutJul 5, 2013 11:10 AM
skudoops said: Kaioshin_Sama said: The Gundam fanbase is starting to remind me of the angry Kyoani fans that think producers shouldn't be allowed to attract different demographics than the core base. Like look I'm a pretty huge fan of Sunrise, I like their sci-fi stuff a lot typically, I see that they do something like Love Live which isn't really for my demographic of fandom. I don't begrudge them for it and demand they do more Accel World or Horizon instead. I appreciate there's a studio out there that's interested in providing some variety and mix of content and style even within the same franchise and will try to appeal to all demographics and fanbases regardless of the fact that it's not always going to result in huge profits. To paraphrase my favorite quote from Mad Men to describe my outlook on these sorts of situations "Hate's a strong word. I hate fanboys. I don't like cutesy harem shows. They bother me. I don't like watching them. I don't hate them...I'm an adult." I'm in the same boat, although in my case I give everything that they put out a chance. For instance they recently had valvrave the liberator airing and at first I really wasn't feeling it, but then I changed my expectations and really really enjoyed it. I think alot of the people who ask for another 00 or wing can easily just watch this instead. Alot of people hate sunrise for actually doing a variety of things (which I find extremely odd) and sunrise actually takes the smart route of creating new franchises whenever they have an idea for a mecha but don't want to risk it with the gundam brand. The gundam fanbase has been split since.. I'd saying wing. I feel that the wing/00 crowd tend to be alot more hostile toward sunrise's attempts to expand their audience and the UC fans tend to be alot less vocal (from my personal experience). I don't like alot of stuff, I really didn't like 00, especially after them just coming off Code Geass but I still went in with an open mind. Everyone these days seem to look at a PV and just hate hate hate, especially when it comes to sunrise. Valvrave is a strange case as it's not afraid to alienate people, pull it's punches or have everything tied up nice and neat at the end of each arc in order to tell it's story. To be honest though Sunrise has never felt like they do clear cut arcs with their originals so much as one big long story that goes from start to finish. There's nothing deliberate or clear cut to how each of their shows plays out typically and to some that can be a source of frustration as there's a lot to keep track of and it makes things kind of unpredictable Plus Valvrave seemingly deliberately permeates it's first half with lots of goofy high school students being high school students when the adults aren't around to contrast with the latter half where they get fucked over huge. My policy has always been the same, to give everything a chance. In Sunrises case I'm beyond doubting their ability to appeal to me now (it's like they can read my mind and know exactly I want out of an anime when I don't even know myself) and make the seemingly unworkable work after recent shows like Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere and Accel World managed it. Going in I expected to be underwhelmed by both and to drop them in short order, but instead I got probably the most unusual show I've seen in a long time and one of my favorite female characters of all time respectively. I even didn't mind Love Live all that much even though it's not really my thing so yeah. I genuinely don't believe I would have made it through the huge demographic shift in appeal of anime without their works in the last 5-6 years. I was all but ready to give up on anime altogether in early 2011 before Tiger and Bunny and Gundam Unicorn came out and kept me interested long enough for the industry as a whole to remember that there's still people like me out there who have certain cravings to be filled. |
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skudoops said: I think this kind of flexibility and broadmindedness is very important in enjoyment of anime. Too many people have too much of a self-important mentality and I-know-best attitude so that they make up their mind too soon and think they know anime better than anybody (including the staff and its main target audience in Japan). Thus they judge an anime only from their own point of view which they stubbornly cling to even though the anime is actually presenting themes or in a style are never meant to meet the expectation they made up themselves (and would not budge). This is not just Valvrave. A lot of ranting about Gargantia, very much undeserved and unwarranted despite its flaws and weakness, can be put in the same category. This is blind refusal to make shifts and adjustment themselves that is the problem, rather than critical flaws in the anime itself.I'm in the same boat, although in my case I give everything that they put out a chance. For instance they recently had valvrave the liberator airing and at first I really wasn't feeling it, but then I changed my expectations and really really enjoyed it. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
murazrai said: As a fan of mechanical toy shows, I am very pleased to hear this. But the reactions towards this show...another case of this show sucks because of it's (insert genre here). I just don't understand why this sort of mentality exists. mecha was popular genre but now moe shows are taking over, this is the reason why the gundam creators are so eagerly trying to win new young audiences since majority of gundam fans are just old people |
murazrai said: So the older fans are feeling alienated? Judging from the mecha designs, I think the creators are trying to avoid that. You DO know that pairing up the old awesome mecha designs with shonen-genre underaged kids is EVEN MORE of an insult than just using new designs, right? |
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