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| Huh, kind of a disappointing episode TBH. Yes, Nakamura came in just like I expected - but yeah, wow, her diary ... I liked that a lot. Then we get a recap of the series? Really? D: Then the thing at the end with everyone talking ... that was kind of confusing. I mean so did they end up doing all that stuff? What was up with the knife?! Plus "end of part 1" ... hmm, so is a second season in the making then? :O That will be interesting, especially since Kasuga is now the one initiating a contract with Nakamura ... Well anyway! This show was certainly something "different" ... I actually LIKED the weird character design! :P I think it worked well. I LOVED the OST - some of the tracks were just so relaxing. Very interesting characters - you certainly don't meet people like them every day haha. IDK, I liked seeing what happened and yes I could kind of see the point of it but still, it was a bit slow for me even so. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I liked it but I kind of thought I'd like it more? XD So basically it gets a 7/10 from me |
daisy- said: Season 2. Must have one. The scenes before the ending were like a preview on what would happen if they made a contract again. They can't just end it here. Actually, they can. They do this a lot. They make a preview for the next season, and then the next season never comes. Kamisama Dolls STILL hurts. |
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| I can tell you've thought alot about this series just like me! MrMoon360 said: Firstly, I must admit that I found myself admiring how blunt, rude and assertive Nakamura turned out to be. She was entertaining and bold. I agree 100%. No fear of confrontation at all. Her "I couldn't give an f'" attitude. It was very cool and entertaining. MrMoon360 said: Kasuga's decision, in the end, to ultimately choose Nakamura baffles me. It feels sort of cheap at how this ended up being Kasuga's pity for a hurting, lonely girl that has abused him for her amusement. I think part of it was that Kasuga wasn't in love with the human or real Saeki. He was in love with this angelic, perfect and pure being that he imagined Saeki to be. When Saeki forgave Kasuga for the gym uniform and trashing the classroom, it kind of ruined the fantasy. What kind of pure and perfect angel would forgive something like that? However, I think Kasuga didn't even feel he deserved the real Saeki. His self esteem was pretty low by the end of the series. Also, Kasuga didn't really conscientiously choose Nakamura over Saeki. He awoke from a dream about Nakamura. Being the "nice guy" that Kasuga is, his interpretation of that dream was that Nakamura would be all alone if he didn't help her. He didn't wake up and say, "I love Nakamura!" I love the part when Nakamura's father asks, "What is your relationship with Sawa?". Kasuga responds by saying, "I don't know. Friends... We're friends, I guess. Honestly, I'm not sure what Nakamura... What Sawa-san is thinking. Still, I want to understand her." Nakamura's dad chuckles at what a honest, serious and nice guy Kasuga appears to be. So we see that even Kasuga has no idea where his relationship is or where it is going with Nakamura. Where the anime stops is somewhat deceiving. It seems like you've got a good girl, a bad girl and guy in the middle. Your opinions will change if there's a season two or if you read the manga. |
| Takao = Shinji Ikari Hard to judge the series properly, probably what the producers wanted. |
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| There was a lot more potential that could've been utilized for the ending. This was a fun show to marathon... and I enjoyed this show for it's eerie atmosphere, characters, and drama. There were also a few brilliant parts throughout. 7/10 for me. |
MusashiRoseApr 11, 2020 11:11 PM
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| I was one of the people who dismissed this series at first because of the roto-blob and what appears to be anime-only drudgery for half of episode 1. I'm glad I made myself watch that and proceed to the rest of the series. This is one of the most interesting series I have seen and timing-wise, it is refreshing from the continuously more gimmicky anime that keep coming out. I find myself dropping a lot of anime these days because they can't keep it simple and "real." I think this anime had slight pacing issues, as some scenes simply cut out too much time from the 13 episode budget. However, only the first half of episodes 1 and 13 seem to stand out as major time-wasters to me. That said, they could have squeezed in another episode in that time frame. I don't know if they had budget issues or if that contributed to the way the series was ended, but I do know that they probably could have saved a substantial amount of money if they hadn't roto-scoped, and they probably would have better sales without it too. Corrections of these mistakes could have allowed for a proper 13th episode and potentially more content for bonus episodes or OVAs in the future. It's a shame really, because I really did like this story, so much though, that I uncharacteristically completed watching it in it's roto-scope/live action form. For what it's worth though, I was glad to see an ending that wasn't anime-only and half-baked, or leaving me with a cliffhanger. They pretty much gave a glimpse into the future of the consequences of his decision to ask her for another contract. If I end up having to read the manga to complete this story, I think it's worth it, and that's also saying a lot for me because I generally don't read manga. I'd rather see it in animated form however, because if I forget about the fact that it's roto-scoped, I really think they did a wonderful job bringing the manga to life in the content that was covered. |
| Long empty gaps and fillers just killed this show... Characters were strongest part of anime they were acting very realistic, highschool concept nothing intresting, story dont catched my heart it was psychological medicore. Im between good and bad so I meet in half and score it 5/10 |
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| I don't care what you all think, this anime was very good, the best i have seen in a while. Y'all just don't understand the psychological. Can't wait for season 2. and by the way the art was good, glad i didn't care about negative reviews. |
| Like a lot of people, it was disappointing to have the finale go full recap and full preview. A good show nonetheless: rotoscope was good, cinematography was great, actors and voice actors were impressive. The story was good. I'm not going to criticize the writing, but there was definitely something overplayed by the actors which disrupted the general serious tone, and for me prevented the show from really delivering. Hope we can have a season 2 next summer. |
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| Well first the actions didn't make much sense to me either (like stealing clothes in middle school pretty much means nothing, only Japan can make a big deal out of this), but you have to go beyond that and appreciate the characters in how they portrait extremes: Saeki is super angelic (right down to her eyes), Kasuga is passive to the max, and Nakamura has really good crazy scenes (when she starts screaming all of a sudden). Once you're at this point, you realize the cinematography and rotoscopy emphasize those traits well, as well as show other relevant aspects of the story, like decay, contempt, how each environment reflects each character (the three rooms, the relationships with the parents...). Maybe you're new to anime, but this kind of direction, dramatization, shots... is almost never seen in the medium. Just that already makes this anime unique. And on top of that you have the opening/ending themes and the bgm/sound effects (drones and pads) which fit the atmosphere to a t. |
EratiKOct 28, 2013 8:05 PM
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GoodKidMC said: Well it's not like everybody has to like it or anything. I agree the troubles in the writing deter a lot of viewers. As to what you said, I guess it has to do with how Japanese people view themselves. From what I gather they really don't perceive themselves as individuals, but as members of the group, and how the group sees you is who you are. And they are very rigid about reputation and stuff: if you lose face even once, you're screwed forever.I get it. This anime was different. Things like this haven't been done before. But, for that to really affect me, the anime has to make sense. Such as: Why was being a deviant so important? Why did Kasuga suddenly fall in love with a girl who was tormenting his relationship with a girl he has liked for a year? I even read the manga(which I won't discuss) and the events just get more ridiculous. I will admit though, the bgm and sound effects did make the scenes much more dramatic. In the anime, he explains his love for Saeki was abstract and a real relationship with Saeki scared him. Meanwhile he got closer to Nakamura physically. The destruction scene in ep 7 is almost foreplay, you can see how Nakamura cheeks are red. Note she's also the one that always brings up the topic of sex. So Kasuga got to know the real Nakamura, saw she was even more lonely than himself, and choose her over abstract love, I think it sort of makes sense. |
EratiKOct 30, 2013 11:22 AM
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| This is the best sh*t I've seen in 2013. |
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| This anime was seriously horrible and I'm surprised I actually managed to finish it. All characters are outright idiotic or insane, the rotoscope was awful and the anime would have been much better if about 50% of it wasn't spent by walking or staring around a room or characters staring at each other without doing anything for extended period of time. If this gets a second season, I'm keeping away form it, as far as I can. 4/10 |
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| 8/10, I hope they make a second series! Although I'll read the manga in the meantime lol. I still find Nakamura to be totally disgusting and unlikeable. Things ended a little disappointingly for me haha but I thought the anime was great overall! |
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| amazingly innovative and moving capture of one of my favorite manga by one of my favorite mangaka........that being said, i feel like my heart got ripped out when they didn't finish the g#ddamned first arc when it could have easily been done - still beautifully different than any anime or non-anime ever made.....i can relate immensely to the mood of quiet desperation these characters feel trapped in roles they cannot transcend, no matter how the scream and push to escape, nonetheless, watching them try is sublime......being left feeling twisted i give this one an 8 for now (being there is no proper ending and it left me feeling very unsettle) - this may change if they ever get to finish it......... |
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| Actually looking forward to a season 2, surprisingly! |
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HikaruIzumi said: This anime was seriously horrible and I'm surprised I actually managed to finish it. All characters are outright idiotic or insane, the rotoscope was awful and the anime would have been much better if about 50% of it wasn't spent by walking or staring around a room or characters staring at each other without doing anything for extended period of time. If this gets a second season, I'm keeping away form it, as far as I can. 4/10 Do you think so? I didn't that, myself, I really enjoyed Aku no Hana. But I was bothered that they really did spend a lot of time doing nothing. Maybe they were trying to push the point that noting happens around there? |
| i'm at a loss for words...i have to pick up the bloody manga now to find out what happens next.and i don't read manga -_- |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| Strange ending. |
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| too much walking scenes otherwise it was good imo... I see violence/rape/murder in the wtf preview segment, which would make this thing a 10/10 easy as I've said before... would watch 2nd season if there's one |
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| 4/5 Anime bold in many points, starting with what for many is an eyesore, or graphics. I like the plot, but does not investigate comprehensively promoted anyway. Pity about the only flaw of this series, the fact anticipate opening in the events that took place during the episodes. Final which is worth much, but I wanted a little more. The room Sawa, reminds me of Elsa in GSG, so undresses to show a certain emptiness in the soul of the girl. Given the great advances shown, it seems that arrivals with the best next season, if ever see the light. I doubt it though, we just have to read the manga with respect to those who will wait the S2. Final rating that does not change at the end, as the final series adds very little! 7/10! |
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| Well I'm glad I read the manga after getting put off by the first episode due to the animation. I will admit though that after marathoning this anime I grew used to the rotoscoping so it wasn't too bad. In my opinion I felt like their expressions were way better in the manga since it looked kinda funky in the anime due to the rotoscoping, also didn't like how they purposely slowed down the pace since they only had 12 episodes to cover the material. Overall it wasn't too bad, the story was still the same but what with the rotoscoping and slower pace it just isn't as good as the manga. Still, it was a decent watch that kept me entertained each episode. 6/10. |
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| It's getting so much better after that ending. Why did they have to end it like that? I wish they could make a 2nd season, but it's probably impossible because of sales. |
| Really regretting coming back to this series and finishing it. The show was a different experience, but there was no payoff at all. I can't think of a much worse ending than doing a flashback over the tiny content the series had then teasing at all the interesting stuff that won't be in it. It did make me curious about the manga, but I don't want to acknowledge such a clumsy advertisement. |
| Absolutely no chance of a second season. The anime sales were horrible, and the manga has ended. There is no reason to make another anime season since there is no more manga to boost. |
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| Oh this is just part one? Well then. For a show with such intensity, this is kind of a anti-climatic way to finish the season. A little too long as an epilogue to the dramatic hill scene, without adding much to the story while pushing all the good stuff into part two. Overall, it was definitely an interesting experience. In my opinion, the rotoscope technique fit the anime better than the traditional style. I like how the plot was paced slowly because it build up more anxiety/angst in the audience which, I feel, is an effective way to convey its plot. 6/10 The good stuff does look hella good in the preview, though. Looking forward to it! It looks like there isn't a second season. I guess I'll just read the manga. The things in the preview seems awesome though. Looking forward to read the manga! |
 "And if, there were so many people in the world, there had to be someone living an interesting life that wasn't ordinary. I was sure of it. Why wasn't that person me?" - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part V [/center] |
arielteck said: I was expecting more for the final episode. Well, there were some images from part we didn't saw at all, could it be a signal for a second season? If so, I'm up for it! I will be reading the manga of this now.. That final was really open. The manga is way better man |
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| Eh i need to re-vote on last ep it was so bad.. 2/5 max and it even had spoilers same as in every opening (i really hate it). Overall anime was good and animation style fitted it just not much of a story have been shown :( i may try reading manga 8/10. |
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| Starting veery good and ended... uhm it ended? 7/10 |
| The anime showed how far teenage anxiety can lead to, especially the teenage years are the time where identity is key. For kasaga, I feel that he does have some sanity because he knows he isn't a deviant. What annoys me is how he's risking his life just because he was challenged about his beliefs. Sure he hated everyone in his town, but he has time to grow up and leave |
| The anime is utter garbage. What the hell were they thinking with that animation. Its so freaking ugly and unappealing. The manga is so much better. I couldn't even get through the first epsiode of this anime. |
| well thats one way to end an anime... i think id watch a season 2 if they ever make one... i didnt expect to enjoy this as much as i did... but i think the whole situation coulda been avoided if kasuga had just freakin talked to nanako... like seriously, why did he let sawa control his life, or he coulda put the ym clothes back... what he did was ruin his life more than if a few people knew he took some gym clothes... but whatever, the series was ok over all, i like the lessons and symbols throughout the show, and honestly the art was pretty nice once you get used to it. probably a 7/10 because it was a good watch, but the beginning was so awkward and forced in my opinion, but once you get into it its decent. |
frequency15kJan 15, 2015 3:05 PM
| I very much enjoyed both the manga and anime, finally a series that's a real slice a life, not same old same old shit that's the same over and over. |
| I'm honestly not sure what to say about this series. It was beautiful in a bizarre way. The characters were so unique and well written, it was like looking into the minds of potential psycho-murderers, and it was very pleasing. It's hard to put words on paper for this series, it's just an odd kind of good. It was kind of like Welcome to the NHK, but in a more teenage angst kind of tone yet not much less mature. I think I'm going to put this at a 9/10 for now. That was just different from anything I've seen. |
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