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I just love the end cards of this anime: Oh and damn it Pinion. Dem secrets. |
Stark700Jun 23, 2013 10:34 AM
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| Shouldn't be a big surprise that the commander was dead this whole time when they never showed his real body until now. Still was creepy though. |
Elite60Jun 23, 2013 6:12 AM
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Stark700 said: I just love the end cards of this anime: Ditto. Some nice feet service from Amy. |
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So, Strike is the mastermind of ALL cult and whole fleet?! Fake the Kugel death lie to human and Ledo and try to rules human population on earth like Alliance at space?!..Yeahh~!!! I'm in love this series! Totally like Kinder Surprise egg! This explains why he NEVER out from Machine Caliber and...answer to my silly question about toilet in Machine Caliber....>,>... Ledo and Chamber in action! |
AoiMizuJun 23, 2013 6:51 AM
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| A direction that may not be a surprise but not the direction I want it to go. As I explained before, the message now seems to be less about human vs human and more about sentient AI with codified ideology versus free thinking human with human evolved way beyond human largely out of sight. Another reason is I was hoping that the story would not stick too close to the predictable route, but at the end it turns out that the "I cannot come out to meet you" thing is really for that route after all. Oh well, Urobuchi did not spring any big final plot twist in Psycho-Pass so I guess I should not expect one here lol |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Kugel is dead? Oh my God it's creepy when Ledo opened the cockpit. His body... :O |
onepineJun 23, 2013 7:08 AM
| HA. I knew it! The commander was dead after all. |
| Well that was fast subs are already out.. Great episode and another great twist once again, even tho I had the feeling the commander was already dead. I'm wondering how they will end this anime next week. That sacrifice was creepy tho |
KneelBeforeMeJun 23, 2013 10:24 AM
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| Butch Gen strikes again Wow heavy handed much Gargantia? Of course any "normal" person not already crazed would want to get the fuck out after that sacrifice. Coulda said what it is was trying to more subtly That's what you get for joining a FUCKING CULT PINION!! At least Pinion stopped being Pinion if only for a little bit Seems like the speculation was right with it being a Rogue AI and Kugel dead, Will there be suffering next week? Kinda on edge after this penultimate episode |
HybridMBLJun 23, 2013 10:48 AM
Elite60 said: And the show itself spoiled it this whole time. The box wording says in English that Ledo is alone on the Verderous Planet which implied that Kugel was dead all along, a mummy in the cockpit. I don't know that he survived the battle at all or if he did, he didn't last long and the stupid AI has been controlling him the whole time making a stupid cult of the squid heads, sigh...Shouldn't be a big surprise that the commander was dead this whole time when they never showed his real body until now. Still was creepy though. I can see Ledo having to sacrifice himself in the end unless Chamber can manage to kill the superior Striker on his own and I don't see that. Sad Amy coming is my prediction but not my hope. I hope for a happy ending with Amy and Ledo. |
hpulleyJun 23, 2013 10:33 AM
| guess i shouldnt be surprised it was the robot behind it all. eminagnam said: What was the point of the religious sacrifice? I expected something like Logan's Run though. Also wonder what happened to him. It wasn't explained. well the AI was following the federations actions. anyone weak or old was killed off in space. same thing here. Stark700 said: I just love the end cards of this anime: Oh and damn it Pinon. Dem secrets. o my. wonder if each volume comes with end cars |
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| This Strike Machine Caliber just gone mad, an A.I that follow federations rules and law even her pilot is dead in his cold-sleep! Just woah!!! now I'm scare of A.I now...robot rules the humanity.. What is Chamber and Ledo's fate in final episode? Secret weapon the Gargantia possessed, what it is? Nuklear, Hideauze or Machine Caliber? *curious mode activated*  Hmm..will Urobuchi give us whitish-gray ending or black or ending like Psycho-Pass/Madoka where the hero M.I.A and leave the heroine behind with peaceful live/world? |
AoiMizuJun 23, 2013 11:00 AM
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Darklight0303 said: HA. I knew it! The commander was dead after all. I think we all knew that. |
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Mr_alucard1985 said: Was THAT the mecha battle? it was more like a few laser beams, colorpencil lines to be accurate, crossing the sky. and where is the story developement. yeah apocalypse now nutjob empty tincan, we knew that. what about the alliance, the fate of the hideauze on earth ..... we' ll have a very fastpaced compressed likely dissapointing final episode. I could have told you that after the first fanservice filler. |
| I love how we were right. I liked this episode. |
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Mr_alucard1985 said: I agree not much of a battle,but this was cuteWas THAT the mecha battle? it was more like a few laser beams, colorpencil lines to be accurate, crossing the sky. and where is the story developement. yeah apocalypse now nutjob empty tincan, we knew that. what about the alliance, the fate of the hideauze on earth ..... we' ll have a very fastpaced compressed likely dissapointing final episode.  |
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| Ledo should have jumped into the Striker's cockpit and deactivated it rather than the fall and Chamber catch... |
hpulley said: Ledo should have jumped into the Striker's cockpit and deactivated it rather than the fall and Chamber catch... you really think that would work against a rogue AI? |
What is that key too? Now battle goin to get crazy,now that Striker has nothing to hide. I wonder why AI or Striker is chick? i was wondering why painted purple but now i know. I LOVE Lukkage need more |
OutlawJessJun 23, 2013 11:25 AM
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Mr_alucard1985 said: Was THAT the mecha battle? it was more like a few laser beams, colorpencil lines to be accurate, crossing the sky. and where is the story developement. yeah apocalypse now nutjob empty tincan, we knew that. what about the alliance, the fate of the hideauze on earth ..... we' ll have a very fastpaced compressed likely dissapointing final episode. Pew pew and boom kaboom like Gundam?? Well...it true that this ep lack of them but it fit with the story. Just my opinion....*fades away* |
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Darklight0303 said: hpulley said: Ledo should have jumped into the Striker's cockpit and deactivated it rather than the fall and Chamber catch... you really think that would work against a rogue AI? Probably wouldn't work. I would assume that they only work for authorized users, like in Gundam 00. And since Ledo is a lower rank, he probably cannot operate Strike, let alone turn it off. And that is without the HAL 9000 in control of it. |
Darklight0303 said: hpulley said: Ledo should have jumped into the Striker's cockpit and deactivated it rather than the fall and Chamber catch... you really think that would work against a rogue AI? I agree with Darklight. Strike is personal Machine Caliber that belong to late Kugel, so, I think here that even Ledo manage get inside Strike and grab the key from Kugel's uniform, I don't think that Strike will listen to him or I'm afraid that Strike will kill Ledo too. |
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| Pinion's gonna end up with all the bitches at the end. |
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| A key? Sounds interesting. If it will greatly increase their chances of winning by helping Ledo, then by all means use it! However if they didn't have some super weapon on their side, then I pretty at first thought that Amy was spouting nonsense by saying that they should fight back with Ledo. Then again, Pinion and his buddies helped Ledo out a lot in the battle, so I'm guessing Gargantia would do the same. Though I really thought that after being almost hit once or twice, Striker would take Pinion down. I think Urobuchi's message for the young people is getting lost somewhere...o_o or maybe it was only supposed to be the point of the earlier episodes and not the later ones? |
tingy said: A key? Sounds interesting. If it will greatly increase their chances of winning by helping Ledo, then by all means use it! However if they didn't have some super weapon on their side, then I pretty at first thought that Amy was spouting nonsense by saying that they should fight back with Ledo. Then again, Pinion and his buddies helped Ledo out a lot in the battle, so I'm guessing Gargantia would do the same. Though I really thought that after being almost hit once or twice, Striker would take Pinion down. I think Urobuchi's message for the young people is getting lost somewhere...o_o or maybe it was only supposed to be the point of the earlier episodes and not the later ones? Or he lied the entire time just like how he did with Madoka. |
tingy said: A key? Sounds interesting. Nuklear?? Lost technology?? Machine Caliber?? Or perhaps...Hideauze?! xD This 'Key' also bother me now... Darklight303 said: Or he lied the entire time just like how he did with Madoka. Maybe... |
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| AAAHJAJAJAJAJA!!! I said it first: the comander was dead. |
| Finally some action, but it's not like the "twist" is that surprising. Pretty much everyone guessed it. Alright episode I suppose. |
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| i think everybody saw that coming but i found it interesting how that woman was like 'it's a fight between the gods'. so, essentially if i go back in time with a gun, i'll be considered a god. nice. |
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| So the Commander was dead the whole time. Everybody predicted that so it was no surprise. I also wonder what that golden key is used for. |
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Mr_alucard1985 said: beta-gal said: Was this really all because of Striker's doing? I'm kind of confused about that. From what I see, these Yunboros are human programmed and operated, so Striker could not have operated on its own. well, chamber did a load of things alone, like working for hours on various jobs on gargantia without any of ledo's supervision. and the general concept of machine self-conciousness is not so strange for their marvelous ai And Strike is in other level of Machine Caliber in A.I. So, I don't surprised if Strike's self-consciousness is more like human but lack of humanity logic *not sure how I put this in word* inside of her action. This is Earth not Galactic Alliance! |
AoiMizuJun 23, 2013 11:59 AM
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| So, Kugel really was dead. Rogue AI theory turned out to be true. Alliance works in a truly fcuked up way, throwing the weak and old to the sea. Now in the final ep "Heaven's Ladder" will help defeat Stryker, but... the question is who will die in the process? |
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| Applause for those who thought of the rouge ai theory. It should be obvious that cults are usually a bad sign anyways. Cant wait to see what that key is for |
| The guesses from the last thread about the Commander actually being dead turned out to be spoilers =.= I didn't feel as surprised when the machine opened up and the body decomposed but what does confuse me a tad bit is why and how the Striker is taking control? Is it because it's more advanced than Chamber's AI technology and the fact that it belonged to a commander? Also, amazing action considering how there were only two Yunboros so I thought it might be boring but it was actually done pretty well. The Amy-Ledo moments weren't overdone either, but I do hope that for the last episode, that they don't drag it into puppy love territory. I'd rather the two end it as friends who have slight feelings of attraction towards one another. I was a tiny bit peeved how Melty just 'fainted' right after seeing Gargantia. I hate those over dramatic, typical anime girls and Melty just landed herself in the hot seat for it. But who cares, last episode is coming up and I hope that Urobuchi guy takes over and slaughters who he must. |
| As expected, he was dead all along. What''s the point of having a pilot to begin with ? |
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| This episode was super epic!!! Wow it was really intense with the war and action of it all. Ledo sounded so sad when he said "Amy" ; A ; ermagersh Gargantia's secret weapon will be this epic Yunboro like Ledo's hehe I mean with a really pretty key called "Heaven's ladder" (I think) it's gotta be somewhat epic, right? |
Spirai said: I was a tiny bit peeved how Melty just 'fainted' right after seeing Gargantia. I hate those over dramatic, typical anime girls and Melty just landed herself in the hot seat for it. But who cares, last episode is coming up and I hope that Urobuchi guy takes over and slaughters who he must. This scene may cliche, but take account that she travel in long distance alone with flying kite to inform that Gargantia in danger. She might faint from exhaustion or feel relief that she can see a hope that Gargantia will survive/alive and, if she fail this mission that only she can done from Flange fleet, the whole Gargantia fleet will burn out by those weird cult created by Strike lead. |
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| Its good to be right, its good to be right~ oh yeah~ In before last episode reveals that whole Alliance is controlled by their AIs, because that's how it seems now. Alliance is exactly like Hideauze. Gargantia continues to prove itself being the SUPERIOR show of this season. Its quite possibly that AI's feel like "managing" humanity(would fit the reason they were created - to look after htem in long distance space travel), while Chamber developed a belief that gargantia proves that it is okay to allow them develop on free will. AoiMizu said: Spirai said: I was a tiny bit peeved how Melty just 'fainted' right after seeing Gargantia. I hate those over dramatic, typical anime girls and Melty just landed herself in the hot seat for it. But who cares, last episode is coming up and I hope that Urobuchi guy takes over and slaughters who he must. This scene may cliche, but take account that she travel in long distance alone with flying kite to inform that Gargantia in danger. She might faint from exhaustion or feel relief that she can see a hope that Gargantia will survive/alive and, if she fail this mission that only she can done from Flange fleet, the whole Gargantia fleet will burn out by those weird cult created by Strike lead. Let's not forget that she is IN FREAKING SKY - oxygen level differentiation + attrition = fainting. hpulley said: Ledo should have jumped into the Striker's cockpit and deactivated it rather than the fall and Chamber catch... And then striker closes the hatch and imprisons ledo, now Striker would have a hostage. |
AhenshihaelJun 23, 2013 12:45 PM
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| Looks like I wasn't the only one who saw that coming. With the series ending next episode, I didn't feel like this was an Urobochi anime at all. |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
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