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ISML 2009 Site: http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/

Results: http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/standings.php


This thread is created for us to discuss about the current ISML. I'll keep everything in the main post updated.

If you want to see last year's results please visit ISML 2008 page.
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Jan 7, 2009 5:31 AM
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Mai ;.;

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Damn you C.C.
Jan 7, 2009 5:39 AM
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asandari said:
Mai ;.;

;.;

Damn you C.C.


I choose Mai over C.C. without second thoughts. I'm a bit depressed that Tomoyo got a position of 7 when she was the 1st before. Fate is really scary ><

Anyway, I hope that one of my favorite characters gets the crown for 2009. Also hoping for Makoto to get in the tournament ^^

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Posting my nomination form, in hopes I give someone ideas.
Jan 7, 2009 8:00 AM
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Nominated a long time ago..


Although now I'm regretting not including Reimu and Marisa :|
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Jan 7, 2009 8:24 AM
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I submitted mine on the same time it opened so...

Sawatari Makoto Kanon 2006
Nogizaka Haruka Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu
Sena Aoi Chaos Head
Rimi Sakihata Chaos Head
Dokuro Mitsukai Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan
Suminoe Ako Kiss X Sis
Kotegawa Yui To-LOVE-Ru
Lisianthus Shuffle!


@overfunk
Go Haruka ^^

- Come on someone please nominate Makoto ^^
- I nominated Chaos head characters for their character only. I hated the plot ><
- Dokuro-chan's cute and...you know ^^
- Suminoe Ako..to add a horny moe in the ISML. She's cute, you know
- Kotegawa Yui..nothing is completed without a tsundere

@Shini-tan
I think Touhou characters aren't qualified according to the rules. If it was, I will allocate points on Marisa and some Touhou characters.

Jan 7, 2009 8:46 AM
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I thought maybe Reimu, Marisa, and Aya would be okay because of the doujin anime..I know other people nominated Touhou too. I get the feeling they won't be allowed though >_>;

Nice to see people still remember Haruka..sadly I had higher priority characters ):
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i. Candidate Requirements.

A. A Candidate is defined as a female character from any Japanese animation (anime) series.

B. Candidates are eligible to enter this League if and only if the following conditions are met:

1. The Candidate must represent an anime series.

2. The Candidate must represent an anime series that is not rated 18+.

a. Candidates representing anime depicting pornography or hentai cannot be nominated.

b. If the Candidate represents multiple anime series, she must represent a series that is not rated 18+.

3. No limitations exist as to the airdate or length of an anime series. TV series, Original Animation/Animated Videos (OAV), Original Video/Visual Animations (OVA), and movies will be accepted as suitable anime series to be represented as long as the ISML Staff can confirm their existence.

C. All Candidates will undergo a background check.

1. If the proposed Candidate is not female and does not exhibit female-like qualities, he or she will fail background check.

2. If the proposed Candidate does not have a name or a proper method of universal identification, he or she will fail background check.

3. If the proposed Candidate does not have sufficient air time within the anime represented, he or she will fail background check.

4. If there is insufficient information during the procedures of background check, the proposed Candidate will fail background check.

5. All rulings regarding background check will be determined by only the ISML Staff.


The first time I read this I considered that Touhou isn't allowed yet. The anime didn't air nor was official. It's a fan-made series. I'm still not sure about this so I allocated the points on other characters.

Oh yeah, there's no way I'll forget that sweet and clumsy attitude of Haruka. She's one of my best favorites.

Jan 7, 2009 9:20 AM
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Sorry for bad english...
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Here are my choices; keep in mind, this is the first Saimoe I've actually entered picks for, so I'm not sure how well I did xDDD

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I guess that means there will be no issue with nominating Mamimi from Furi Kuri.
*nudge*

But, I wonder what it means to 'represent' an anime series? Does that mean that you can only nominate one character per series? Or does it mean you can only nominate a character you believe emanates the heart of a series, or perhaps only the 'main character'?

From just 2008, The first and last proposed solutions could be ruled out.
Jan 7, 2009 9:39 AM

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I nominated:
Fujibayashi Kyou - Clannad
Minase Nayuki - Kanon (2006)
Amamiya Yuuko - ef - a tale of melodies
Shana - Shakugan no Shana
Nagi - Kannagi
Cross Yuuki - Vampire Knight
Hiiragi Kagami - Lucky Star
Miyamura Miyako - ef - a tale of memories

Didn't see any rule saying we can't vote on someone who's been nominated last year, but since I haven't seen any already nominated character at the ones who've posted before me, I'm starting to doubt it, actually. >.<
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Makoto Sawatari - Kanon
Mariko Kurama - Elfen Lied
Yomi Isayama - Ga Rei -Zero-
Ryoko Asakura - TMoHS
Henreitta - Gunslinger Girl
Asuka Langley Soryu - Evangelion
Rimi Sakihata - ChaoS;HEAd
Shion Sonozaki - Higurashi

That'll be it for me. Nice first choice Splitter =).
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asandari said:
But, I wonder what it means to 'represent' an anime series? Does that mean that you can only nominate one character per series? Or does it mean you can only nominate a character you believe emanates the heart of a series, or perhaps only the 'main character'?

From just 2008, The first and last proposed solutions could be ruled out.

I wouldn't put so much thought into it. Just nominate the characters you like/find moe, as most people are :/ there's lots of minor characters in ISML (Kyon's sister was there last year..), and it's not only 'main characters' that can give off a feeling of moe. Just have fun with it D:

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I nominated:
Fujibayashi Kyou - Clannad
Minase Nayuki - Kanon (2006)
Amamiya Yuuko - ef - a tale of melodies
Shana - Shakugan no Shana
Nagi - Kannagi
Cross Yuuki - Vampire Knight
Hiiragi Kagami - Lucky Star
Miyamura Miyako - ef - a tale of memories

Didn't see any rule saying we can't vote on someone who's been nominated last year, but since I haven't seen any already nominated character at the ones who've posted before me, I'm starting to doubt it, actually. >.<

Kyou, Nayuki, Shana, and Kagami are automatic entries from last year, so you wasted 4 of your nomination slots...(characters that are automatic entries are listed on the home page)


I'm going to be anti-Clannad except for Tomoyo and Kotomi this year. Also anti-Nanoha (all of it). And anti-Tsukasa.
It's nice that there's a lot of lesser-known characters being nominated too (:
Shana is love.



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Just to answer anyone's questions the touhou anime project is being allowed, but they characters still must pass backround check, basically meaning dont go and vote for China just because she appeared for 10 seconds and was sleeping.

as Far as i can tell the only ones that should have no issues passing background check will be Reimu, Aya and Marisa, the scarlet devil girls might make it depending, not sure its not up to me, China and Suika will probably not pass background check

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I'm going to be anti-Clannad except for Tomoyo and Kotomi this year. Also anti-Nanoha (all of it). And anti-Tsukasa.
It's nice that there's a lot of lesser-known characters being nominated too (:



D: -cries-
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/goes back to regretting not putting Reimu and Marisa

Well, I might vote for Fate a few times, depending on the situation. Nanoha no though >_>; I'm not really a fan of her at all.
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Seasonreaper said:
Makoto Sawatari - Kanon
Mariko Kurama - Elfen Lied
Yomi Isayama - Ga Rei -Zero-
Ryoko Asakura - TMoHS
Henreitta - Gunslinger Girl
Asuka Langley Soryu - Evangelion
Rimi Sakihata - ChaoS;HEAd
Shion Sonozaki - Higurashi

That'll be it for me. Nice first choice Splitter =).


Nice second choice :3... all seriousness, she does not get the love she deserves.

@Shini-tan. Anti-Clannad meh, anti-Nanoha bad, anti-Tsukasa good, so you average out. I'm going to be anti-Lucky Star outside my nom... maybe anti-Shana, haven't made up my mind on that yet.
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lol the only person i will ever be "Anti" for is Tsukasa and its not even because of Tsukasa herself, more because of an extremely idiotic Tsukasa fanboy >_>

its alot to piss me off and he did it like a master so i cant help but vote against his and i quote "wifeu" >_>
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Jasonn said:
lol the only person i will ever be "Anti" for is Tsukasa and its not even because of Tsukasa herself, more because of an extremely idiotic Tsukasa fanboy >_>

its alot to piss me off and he did it like a master so i cant help but vote against his and i quote "wifeu" >_>


The same extremely idiotic fanboy from last year? Yeah, that's part of my reasoning... also, Tsukasa isn't cute, she's dumb.
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This is the hardest decision so far of the year 2009 for me. I'm basically going to have to whittle down my shortlist of 27 characters into 8 and rank them.

Tachibana Ichika - Uta Kata
Fuura, Kafuka - Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
Misaka, Mikoto - To Aru Majutsu no Index
Tsukuyomi, Komoe - To Aru Majutsu no Index
Shirai, Kuroko - To Aru Majutsu no Index
Aisaka, Taiga - Toradora
Kettenkrad, Ritsuko Kübel - Kujibiki Unbalence (2006)
Alice Carroll - Aria
Alicia Florence - Aria
Ana Coppola - Ichigo Mashimaro
Itoh, Chika - Ichigo Mashimaro
Rebecca Miyamoto - Pani Poni Dash
Aoba, Tsugumi - Kannagi
Nagi - Kannagi
Zange - Kannagi
Hiro - Hidamari Sketch
Miyako - Hidamari Sketch
Mint Blancmanche - Galaxy Angel
Milfeulle Sakuraba - Galaxy Angel
Katagiri, Yuuhi - Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka
Siina, Mitsuki - Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka
Shiraishi, Nagomi - Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka
Aoi, Sena - Chaos Head
Sakihata, Rimi - Chaos Head
Nia Teppelin - Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Kyon no Imouto - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Misaka, Shiori - Kanon (2006)

Yeah, Winter Break is pretty awesome. Good thing I'm bored! xD
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Instead of the 8 you like the most from there, you should go for the 8 you think have the most chances.
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Splitter said:
Jasonn said:
lol the only person i will ever be "Anti" for is Tsukasa and its not even because of Tsukasa herself, more because of an extremely idiotic Tsukasa fanboy >_>

its alot to piss me off and he did it like a master so i cant help but vote against his and i quote "wifeu" >_>


The same extremely idiotic fanboy from last year? Yeah, that's part of my reasoning... also, Tsukasa isn't cute, she's dumb.

I'm pretty sure I know who you guys are talking about, so yeah. And last year's LS final anyone? There were windows broken.

@ kevo: Nominate Alice please :D?
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@ kevo: Nominate Alice please :D?


Alice had her chance and lost. Go go Ara Ara Alicia!

overfunk said:
Instead of the 8 you like the most from there, you should go for the 8 you think have the most chances.


What's the fun in that?
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Shini-tan said:
Kyou, Nayuki, Shana, and Kagami are automatic entries from last year, so you wasted 4 of your nomination slots...(characters that are automatic entries are listed on the home page)
Damn, I knew I had read over something. ^^;
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I'm pretty sure Alice would have a better chance than Alicia :/
Both are fine though <3

And yeah, kevo, pick the 8 you like the most. If I only picked characters that had good chances of doing well..my entire list minus Misuzu and maybe Shion would be gone >_>
Even if they don't make it, at least you supported them.
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Browsed through ISML's nomination requirements does it have any limitations on if the show must have aired within the last year or never been previously nominated because if not this is pretty fail and is not something you should be doing annualy unless there is something to differentiate between the years other than what is currently airing/popular at the time of voting.
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@Jeffusz: If you want to, you can always email one of the administrators and have you nominations fixed. I think that there are more details on the voting page.

@Splitter: Boo. :(
I'd gladly vote for Alicia though.

@ariolander: Such a limitation would be rather silly when this is supposed to be a 'Best of the Best' tournament, right? (At least, that was one of the taglines for last year, I don't know if I've seen it yet this year) Most popular moe tournaments have restrictions like that, so it's actually nice to have one that doesn't. Regardless, recent shows will do better, as people will forget about characters in older shows or they just haven't seen them.
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@Umbra
Thats true, thats true but many of those tourneys particularly lost track of the whole "moe" part contest and have decended into a poplarity/east-vs-west pissing contest.

Speaking of which went through the rules again so this is basically just a simple character poll 'cause for a Saimoe League it has nothing to do with being "moe" at all...

Color me unimpressed I want my SaiGAR back T_T
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Well, they always were popularity contests; it's not like at one point there was a panel of judges who rated these characters in specified catagories of moe. As for faction/hate voting and other similar things, as far as I know, those have always existed to an extent and it's not really going to ever change that much. There are only so many restrictions you can place and some of them cannot be enforced fully. The rules are for proper conduction of the contest and as 'moe' is a somewhat subjective concept, it'll always be up to the voters to define it.
Anyway, to an extent, the e-drama is part of the fun.
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Kuro, Mimi, and no Rin?... do you even know what it means for a character do be moe?

@Umbra: If Alice makes it, I will vote for her. I love Alice too... but I love Alicia a slight bit more.
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Ok, after a whole day of deliberating, I'm done.



After that,
Ana Coppola - Ichigo Mashimaro (almost a coin flip between her and Nia)
Kyon no Imouto - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Siina, Mitsuki - Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka
Aisaka, Taiga - Toradora
Miyako - Hidamari Sketch
Kettenkrad, Ritsuko Kübel - Kujibiki Unbalence (2006)
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@ ariolander; Agreed. :< I want SaiGAR back too. Crazy Kamina/botting drama ruined it~


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Splitter said:
Ontario said:


Kuro, Mimi, and no Rin?... do you even know what it means for a character do be moe?

@Umbra: If Alice makes it, I will vote for her. I love Alice too... but I love Alicia a slight bit more.


I consider rin to be in a different class... She isn't really moe.
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Sorry, Scud >_>
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I wish I read this topic before I nominated. I like all the characters I chose, but there are a few that I forgot about that I would have rather chosen.
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Sorry, Scud >_>


I was sad I couldn't include Ana on my ballot. But now at least she'll get 'repped. :)
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Jeffusz said:
I nominated:
Fujibayashi Kyou - Clannad
Minase Nayuki - Kanon (2006)
Amamiya Yuuko - ef - a tale of melodies
Shana - Shakugan no Shana
Nagi - Kannagi
Cross Yuuki - Vampire Knight
Hiiragi Kagami - Lucky Star
Miyamura Miyako - ef - a tale of memories

Didn't see any rule saying we can't vote on someone who's been nominated last year, but since I haven't seen any already nominated character at the ones who've posted before me, I'm starting to doubt it, actually. >.<

Almost all of them are already contestants for 2009.You should only nominate for characters not in the contestant list yet. If you want to change your nomination, you can e-mail them.

Oh well that ends the nomination. Wishing for Makoto's success ^^

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Where is Athena Glory?? :(
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Not moe enough sorry =P
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Why is there such a lack of nominations for Ami from Toradora!? :(
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Why is there such a lack of nominations for Ami from Toradora!? :(

I don't know for the others but she didn't catch my attention. For Toradora, the best would be Kushieda I guess. Taiga's slowly becoming Louise which is irritating for me.

I hope Makoto and Haruka will be able to join the preliminary for next week.

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Having just finished watching Kanon I really hope that Makoto makes it into the preliminary......really bad.
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Why is there such a lack of nominations for Ami from Toradora!? :(


Because there's very little about Ami that says "moe"?
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What I don't get is all the Minorin love. Too much bubbleheadedness. Less Minorin moar Taiga please.

Also, anyone else nominate Ayanami Rei? No one?
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What I don't get is all the Minorin love. Too much bubbleheadedness. Less Minorin moar Taiga please.

Also, anyone else nominate Ayanami Rei? No one?


There's a lot of talk about what's really going on with Minorin. Many people I talk with seem to think her airheadedness is a defense mechanism. She's had some really surprising moments since the first few episodes, like her talk with Ryuuji at the summer villa about why she's scared of ghosts, and also when she confronted Ryuuji after he had been pressing Taiga to reconcile with her dad. There's definitely more there than just an airhead

As for Rei... well, she is moe, no denying that, but I greatly dislike her so I didn't even consider her.
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Characters in Toradora are surprisingly deep. I would not be surprised if multiple characters appear in Saimoe contests for years to come (especially after the series ends). Saimoe league is gonna be fun. Lots of character analysis and interesting matchups gonna happen. Gottalove that 64x64 round robin.

Can't wait for Prelims to start.
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I'd personally consider Ami the most moe girl in toradora. I don't even consider Minori moe, I can't really find excitable characters moe, but those types of characters do entice me, in another way. Taiga is also surprisingly moe despite her clumsy tendencies, not as moe as Ami, but close, and for the same reasons. I think it's just because Toradora has done tsundere right, way too right...
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Fuckin' shit. I was gonna' nominate Akagi, Kaiji, Ooishi, Igor, Kakihara, Gendo, Commando Bear, Zenigata, Tonegawa, and Ichikawa, but the nomination period ended.

>:(
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