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Jan 4, 2009 1:43 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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"Motorad, Takeoff"

I blame a lot of the trouble in this ep on Shakti. She was WAY too naive. BESPA is a ruthless organization that chops ppl's heads off. She thinks that b/c she's related to Cronicle that he'll stop a major assault force? Sheesh! Unfortunately, her actions result in Uso's mother being captured by Katejina, who has become a MAJOR pain in the @$$. She always seems to be there to brush aside Uso or cause him pain.

Oliver's death wasn't Shakti's fault, but it definetely seems like a waste. I think his suicidal attempt was a rash & illogical move. He's more valuabe to the League Militaire as a an experienced pilot & leader, than as human artillery. Poor Marbet, they were just married, too. D@mn you Tomino! You heartless monster!
Dec 9, 2010 7:31 PM
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You know, looking back at when I watched SEED and SEED Destiny, why did the battle scenes in Victory look much more interesting than the ones in SEED/Destiny? Probably the lack of reused scenes.

Anyway, this reminds me of Sleggar Law, only that Sleggar's attempt was more effective. Oliver should aim for the bridge instead of the tires.
Apr 3, 2011 9:53 AM
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Oliver doing a kamikaze attack was sudden and seems like it wasn't a bit effective.
Though the ending almost made me cry, because seeing Marvet like that was incredibly sad ;_;
Aug 22, 2012 1:14 AM
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I cried when Marbet cried.

Knew it wasn't going to end happily for them from the start so I wasn't surprised, but I was expecting at least on or both to die near the final episodes and not this early.

Oh no Odelo is fighting in an MS now. Please don't kill him off Tomino I love him he has to live through this. It will break my heart if he dies. T_T
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Feb 11, 2013 1:33 PM
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So, Oliver died, I didn't see that coming! Marbet's reaction was very mature, even he being so close to her and that happening so close to their marriage.

Looks like this purple haired woman will have more screentime from now on

Poor Uso, he just met with his mom and now they're separated again...
Apr 13, 2014 9:19 PM
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Pointless death was pointless and Shakti being retarded as usual, well at least she didn't take the baby with her this time lol.
Apr 25, 2014 4:59 PM
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yeah that death was super forced and had no impact as a result

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Apr 26, 2014 7:02 AM
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holyshit RIP pimp :(
who is running the harem team team now ??
May 28, 2014 6:46 PM
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RIP Oliver, goddamnit Shakti.
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Aug 30, 2014 2:58 AM

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JizzyHitler said:
yeah that death was super forced and had no impact as a result

Didn't the suicide attack damage the ship so they had to retreat? If he didn't pull a kamikaze, the battle would go on. I agree that it was a waste though, wouldn't mind if they killed of a Shrike Team girl for this, instead of Oliver. Oliver deserved a better death than this Sleggar thing.

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I blame a lot of the trouble in this ep on Shakti. She was WAY too naive. BESPA is a ruthless organization that chops ppl's heads off. She thinks that b/c she's related to Cronicle that he'll stop a major assault force?

She knows that Chronicle isn't that "evil". While we know how Zanscare is operated, she doesn't and thinks that Maria and Chronicle have a say in it.

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Dec 21, 2014 2:32 PM

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I know Shakti is still a kid and all but holy shit that was dumb...

RIP Oliver, the harem king. Annoying Katejina should've died instead.
Jan 3, 2015 2:39 PM

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RIPRIPRIP

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one more say byebye in the series, Oliver!!!

Cry Marbet, cry, for you and your future son!!!
Nov 14, 2016 2:01 AM

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A sacrifice à la Sleggar, but useless this time. It was weird in a sense, because it was something totally unexpected from Oliver, based on his "teachings" and usual behaviour.

Someone needs to teach Shakti about Zanscare's governmental organisation. Chronicle is just above regular soldiers and his sister is a puppet, nothing more.
I had nothing against the character but am starting to dislike how she is used to trigger problems/confrontations.

Why are warships equipped with wheels now?! That looked stupid.


4/5 How will this only ship and its motorad (arf -_-") alone make a difference on Earth ?


edit: Odelo in a MS? Wonder when he'll die.
Feb 23, 2017 2:54 AM

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Shakti is a fucking idiot and those Motorad ships are about as dumb as the MS-in-tires. Oliver's death was kinda sad, though, if a little bit lame.

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I cried when Marbet cried.
Same here, shit was tough. ;_;
Wonder if Marbet is a Newtype though, since she could feel her husbando dying.
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Sep 8, 2017 6:01 AM

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The episode proved what was brutally obvious: kamikaze attacks are exceedingly ineffective in terms of tactical value. I guess Tomino really wanted to get rid of Oliver now. Shakti's lack of insight isn't even surprising any more.
Sep 6, 2018 7:03 PM

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Intense, awesome, emotional and any other adjectives you can think of. The "Pimp" Oliver suicide attack was out of nowhere and unfortunately accomplished nothing, but so what? We complain about character development, it's not fleshed out enough, and blah blah.. but Marbet's reaction was all we needed. That's what triggered my emotions, her reaction, and along with the fact they're expecting to have a kid.. what more development do we need?

I've said this too many times.. but Jesus.. poor Uso. And a massive middle finger to Katejina. Go away.
Jul 29, 2020 12:51 PM

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Well, Oliver died a mostly pointless death, though the reactions to it were sad enough.
"I'm entrusting our child to you!" - You didn't even have time to spend a whole night together back at Macedonia but alright

Spaceships with tires are probably the most ridiculous thing in Gundam I've ever seen

I also guess that Tomino couldn't have introduced Uso's mother without a plan to kill her later in the story in some spectacular way. Btw she could've just jumped away with Shakti instead of getting captured...but whatever

At this point I'm wondering which of the characters will *not* die by the end of the show
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It looks like Oliver's death wasn't effective. I feel bad for Marbet.
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Oct 28, 2021 12:50 AM

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What a mess. Seeing Marbet cry was sad though.
Mar 31, 2022 12:58 AM

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RIP Oliver, though I didn't really care about him that much. Shakti holding the idiot ball and getting Uso's mother captured was stupid. "Maybe the bad guys will change their mind if we just ask really nicely!" Genius.
Apr 18, 2022 2:35 PM
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The series so far was just endless battles that don't seem to advance anything because both sides of the conflict seem to have unlimited resources. Even Uso destroying a portion of the enemy fleet made no difference because Zanscare now has a new, more threatening spaceship with tire. :/

I like Uso's guts and some characters like Marbet, Odelo, Flanders and Haro are enjoyable to watch, but I am tempted to skip to the last episode to see how this ends. The plot is stuck on constant fighting and meaningless deaths and I'm doubting if this is going to change during the last 20 episodes.
Oct 5, 2023 2:32 AM

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ok, this made me really cry

seeing marbet and the kids sad after the kamikaze attack was truly painful.
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Shakti is an absolute retard who should’ve got killed off instead of Oliver.

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