My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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| Hikigaya is still feeling hurt from that incident, whether he deny it or not. Yukino's personality changed now that Hiki knows. And... Yui's confession got stopped! Ahh! |
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| Haha Hikki's sister helping set him up with Yui was cute. The whole date was fun to watch. Hachiman was in complete control and read the situations perfectly like when Yui's friends showed up or when she was about to confess. It's nice to see a non-beta MC in these kinds of shows. Him giving Yukino too much credit leads him to despise himself for the first time. He's never expected anything out of anyone before so now when he finds that Yukino is just like the rest (which is a truth he's always held onto), it leads him to feel this way. This is such a great series! Right now I hope Yui will keep pushing for him. I like her better than Yukino right now Also I switched from FFF to WhyNot. I like more literal translations |
phantom19Jun 1, 2013 10:15 AM
| -Nothing can stay unchanged. Even so, can you still keep on loving this place? -Be still my soul; when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last. |
| why isn't this show rated higher ? |
| ''Call me Messiah''.8man wins again.Awesome episode. Valaskjalf said: why isn't this show rated higher ? |
incompleteAEGISJun 1, 2013 12:11 PM
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Tenzen12 said: She didn't know him, besides, hwo exactly was she supposed to bring that up in conversation? "Oh, hey, you know that car that hit you, I was in it." She wasn't driving, she wasn't responsible, how is it relevant? I just don't see how that makes her a liar. She pretended not knowing him at all (claimed that few times in several different situation. Do it than, just pick suitable car and jump. No big deal... I didn't say I wanted to be hit by any random car... And besides, he's not broken up over the car crash, he's broken up specifically because of who was involved. Okay, sucks you got hit by a car, but he has no lasting injuries, AND he has two of the hottest chicks in his school constantly hanging out with him now. Exactly what is bad about that? And as for the comedy being it's strong point: this show does really well at being realistic with teenage drama. I commend it for that, however, the problem with teenage drama is that it's teenage drama. If the show is being ironic, and we're supposed to laugh at how naive and ridiculous teenagers can be, than the show is very clever. But if it's trying to play it straight, and I'm supposed to be moved emotionally, than it's not very clever and it loses a lot of it's appeal. I can sympathize with drama-queen teenagers, but I can't really connect with them all that much. I'm not a teen anymore so these huge introspective torments are just kind of funny in how trivial they are compared to problems in the real world. I can't be moved emotionally because some teen is too awkward to tell a girl he likes her, and then too awkward to realize that she likes him, and then too awkward to let her make the confession. Or a guy who is devastated because the hot chick hanging out with him might have some kind of ulterior motive. Like I said, they are being realistic, which is commendable, but at the same time, that puts the show in a weird position. Realistic teenage drama is melodrama. Melodrama is rarely interesting. Ironic comedy about melodrama is very interesting, and takes a deft touch. So far the show seems to be toeing the line between the two. I think it needs to choose either one or the other, and my strong urge would be for it to go for the comedy and not melodrama. |
StopDropAndBowlJun 1, 2013 1:44 PM
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StopDropAndBowl said: Tenzen12 said: She didn't know him, besides, hwo exactly was she supposed to bring that up in conversation? "Oh, hey, you know that car that hit you, I was in it." She wasn't driving, she wasn't responsible, how is it relevant? I just don't see how that makes her a liar. She pretended not knowing him at all (claimed that few times in several different situation. Yukino did know Hachiman from the accident, and Hachiman became well aware of that last episode as well as this one. If Yukino recognized Yui's dog, then she probably recognized Hachiman on the spot as well. What makes her a liar was that she actually did say that she never met Hachiman before around episode 1. We know from Haruno that Yukino was a passenger on the car and wasn't responsible for the accident, but I can't exactly believe any words that come from that woman's mouth. Even Shizuka seemed to feel uncomfortable around her. That's my two cents on her lying to Hachiman. |
| Not really wanting to take sides in this argument, but my pedantic nature is taking over. While I don't know the original Japanese, the English "met someone" strongly implies actually interaction between the two, from simple acknowledging that they see each other with mutual head nods to exchanging greetings or formal introductions. Now, for instance, if Yukino never got out of the car and Hachiman never actual saw her (note the car's windows are heavily tinted) then even though Yukino may have seen him, I would not declare that they had ever met. Technically, she would be correct in stating that they had never met. |
CratexJun 1, 2013 2:57 PM
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| Indeed. "I don't know this person" or "we've never met" is not the same thing as "I've never seen this person before in my life." Of course, the problem is that whenever you have to preface an argument with "technically," you've lost the war by winning the battle. They may have technically never met, but there is a dishonesty in not acknowledging her role (even her non-guilty role) in the accident when they are first introduced. That sort of secret keeping seems to really affect Hachiman (given his reaction to finding out who Yui really was,) mostly because it makes him doubt/try to reevaluate the entire relationship up to that point. What Yukino has in her favor, at least, is that Hachiman has no reason to believe she was being nice to him because of the accident--since she has never been particularly nice. Hachiman seems disappointed that pedestal-Yukino doesn't actually exist, and disgusted with himself for creating that idol in the first place. |
CNagy said: What Yukino has in her favor, at least, is that Hachiman has no reason to believe she was being nice to him because of the accident--since she has never been particularly nice. Hachiman seems disappointed that pedestal-Yukino doesn't actually exist, and disgusted with himself for creating that idol in the first place. To sorta echo what CNagy said, Hikigaya essentially created an "ideal" Yukino in his head: an elegant beautiful girl who is always direct. If you recall Hikigaya himself said "Ideals are just that, ideals" meaning he went back on something he believed, which disgusts him because he refused to acknowledge his own belief. Also the fact that he fell into the same category of people who judged and put down Yukino in past hurt his ego. It's not really the accident itself that bothers Hikigaya, it's the fact that he built up a Yukino in his head only to have it destroyed. Making him feel like a fool for even thinking of her that way. |
| Yui was cute in her Kimono. The car incident still lingers in his mind. I still don't trust her sister. Yui's confession was interrupted. Another deep monologue “I like myself, I never once for a single second hated myself. My base stats are quite good, and I’m not ugly either. I’m pessimistic and realistic. I definitely don’t hate myself. But now, for the first time in my life, I feel like I might despise myself. The Yukinoshita Yukino I knew was always beautiful, and she’d never lie. She was just, and she kept standing even if there was no footing to stand on. I think I was captivated by Yukinoshita Yukino. I held my own expectations and forced them on her. Sometimes I’d assume I understood her, then I’d just get myself disappointed. I tried sobering myself so many times, yet I couldn't fix that part of me. Even Yukinoshita Yukino lies. The way I refuse to accept something so obvious is simply despicable.” Hikigaya Hachiman So Hachiman's image of Yukinon shattered |
| Well, Cratex pointed out the difference between met and know. She knew Hachiman from the accident but met him only when Shizuka forced him in the Service Club. I'm at fault for typing out "met" instead of "knew" on my last post and that spurred some confusion. |
| Another good quote by Hachiman this episode. So even for him an expert loner he still have expectation on other. |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| hikki my man. cuts yui off during confession and cuts yukino during her apology. no wonder he's starting to hate himself. girls like assholes confident people though - srs. oh well good to know yukino's sister isnt just a pretty face. there's something up in that brain of hers.. |
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reversereality said: As long as we're not talking about "know" in the biblical sense, I'm good ;)I'm at fault for typing out "met" instead of "knew" on my last post and that spurred some confusion. |
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| meh I expected that Yui confessed but Hikki didn't let her D: |
PhoenixIce said: Not the accident that bother hm but the fact that Yukino "lying" have destroy his image of her and once again make him face reality.I don't even get why the accident bothers him so much |
| Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| I don't get why people keep on saying "heavily tinted glass that's why she didn't see him..." For sure it wasn't some sort of hit-and-run, so wouldn't they have come out to see who the hell they hit? Although, if they actually did, wouldn't Yukino and Yui meet by then? |
VoidNoodle said: It's all just speculation. We don't know what happened. That's why people are throwing out thoughts. Don't take anything to literally.I don't get why people keep on saying "heavily tinted glass that's why she didn't see him..." For sure it wasn't some sort of hit-and-run, so wouldn't they have come out to see who the hell they hit? Although, if they actually did, wouldn't Yukino and Yui meet by then? |
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Cratex said: VoidNoodle said: It's all just speculation. We don't know what happened. That's why people are throwing out thoughts. Don't take anything to literally.I don't get why people keep on saying "heavily tinted glass that's why she didn't see him..." For sure it wasn't some sort of hit-and-run, so wouldn't they have come out to see who the hell they hit? Although, if they actually did, wouldn't Yukino and Yui meet by then? Well, it wasn't a hit and run, that's for sure. Would've been too cruel. Poor 8man, actually quite surprised he survived that. |
| I just don't see how it can be called "dishonest" to not openly say right off the bat: "Oh, you're the guy my driver ran over." I guess if she said "I don't know his name." than she technically lied, but I highly doubt that is the "lie" he is talking about. |
| Let's go bowling. |
| One of the good episodes. Getting now interesting(Slightly). |
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| Good that 8man is not falling for any of this bitches. Go through a mind of steel route brother. |
| This kid thinks about things way too much. When I was in highschool the only thing going through my mind at this point in time would be "how does I sex both girls at once" |
| That phone app! 8man! He knows everything and he's being cautious? Love that laugh "Ha..ha..ha, So Yukinoshita-san" Wah I know what 8man thought, She going to confess, how do I stop her? That ending, so deep I can't see him anymore XD |
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 This is what I thought Hakki's response would be if Yui finished her confession. He's a loner and she's not. However, if she started dating him, her circle of friends would diminish and she would basically be a loner with him; it was displayed when she met her friends by the way they looked at him. Excellent episode. I'm always impressed by how well the story is written, especially the monologues. |
| It doesn't metter even if that lie is only technical. It isn't like Hikki blame her in first place. Point is that "his" Yukino NEVER lies and that Yukino is gone now. There is nothing to not understand about that. |
| So it's like Hachiman disappointed because from his point of view, Yukino didn't admit or trying to hide the fact about the accident. From Yukino's point of view: if she tell the truth, she worried things will become awkward for the club/3 of them although Hachiman already stated that it's on the past and never had any problem with it.. IMHO CMIIW.. |
Claude_KennyJun 2, 2013 5:02 AM
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StopDropAndBowl said: The problem is that this only applies if you consider Yukino to be just like any other person. Hikigaya seems to have seen her as something above regular humans until now- someone that would stay absolutely true to her ideals and never show signs of lying or feigning ignorance to anything. She clearly pretended not to know Hikigaya even though she definitely should have. This might not be considered "dishonesty" to most, but it still was in Hikigaya's eyes because he had set the bar too high. The Yukino in Hikigaya's eyes (until now) really WOULD have told him right off the bat that her car had run him over. She didn't though, and that is why he ended up being disappointed with her and hating himself for it.I just don't see how it can be called "dishonest" to not openly say right off the bat: "Oh, you're the guy my driver ran over." This is definitely not her fault though. If anything, Hikigaya is at fault for making her out to be some kind of a perfect being- something he has clearly already realized. |
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| Excellent episode. The show is getting better by the week (and it already started off really great). Meddlesome imouto still being meddlesome. Haruno made an appearance once again and guess what - my impression of her improved. Instead of only being a two-faced bitch who wants everything to go her way, she turned out to care a lot about her sister (trying to get Hachiman and Yukino together, being disappointed by Yukino chasing her shadow). Yup, the characters of this show are all great and deep. And an epic Hachiman monologue in the end. Saying he hates himself is a damn big step for him. He knows full well who is at fault and who is to blame. Yukino looked kinda sad this time. I guess not only did she have her hidden connection to Hachiman (accident) revealed, being around her family again must have given her a pretty hard time. She seemed weakened. Her confident, shiny aura was gone, only leaving behind a frail girl. |
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Angraj said: LOL. I understand you're just displaying what you thought Hachiman's response would be, but I'm not sure in the end that Index is a good example, as it seems to me Touma's circle of friends and acquaintances expanded considerably after he started hanging out with Index.This is what I thought Hakki's response would be if Yui finished her confession. He's a loner and she's not. However, if she started dating him, her circle of friends would diminish and she would basically be a loner with him; it was displayed when she met her friends by the way they looked at him. |
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| Good episode!!! Some very good scenes here especially with the fireworks festival and Yui looked pretty nice in her Kimono. When she saw her friend Minami and her group to which Hikigaya was being laughed at the same time was pretty funny. Haruno also looked pretty nice with her change in hairstyle and we learn a little more about her family rules. She seems to have expectations from both Yui and Hikigaya. Seems like Yukino wanted to say something to Hikigaya but was interrupted by him instead. Looking forward to the next episode!! 5/5 |
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| Hachiman is so full of win. |
| Yukino and Hikki can't be together, even if they do at the very least Yukino parents wouldn't allow it. I don't think Hikki will end up to anyone in the end, the story so far don't show any hints of Hikki having romantic relationship with either girls. |
| seriously I'm a bit much to get in.. why hachiman.. whyy??? why you stop yui when want to said about... blah~ forget it lol love the yui yukata btw.. so cute.. in the end.. I dont know why.. but I like how hachiman talk to yukinoshita.. lol XD |
| The first scene in episode 9 may have a hint, Hikki's cat avoid Yui's dog like their current status, seem like Yui had been rejected by Hachiman from the begining. Need rewatch all to know find more hints. |
| Great episode again, looking forward to another. Yuigahama looked great in the yukata as well ^^ |
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| Yukinon's sister is staring to scare me. I wouldn't be surprised if somethings F'd up happens by the end of the series. Also, I love how this show in every episode it always starts off happy and then by the end the mood gets sad. |
| Haruna is not a nice person. I have the feeling that most of what she says is calculated to inflict the maximum damage to Yukinon's relationships with other people. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
SCNFan said: I don't understand. What did Yukinon lie about? She kept silent about the fact that it was 'her' car that hit Hachiman when he saved Yui's dog. She lied when she met Hachiman face to face about not knowing him. |
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| Based on how the light novel's direction is going I can see its all Yui route, its a real shame though... I was rooting for Yukino. I love myself I've never once in my life hated myself. -Hikigaya Hachiman ~Seriously LOL(≥∇≤) |
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