The Flowers of Evil
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| Six minutes of walking? Come on! Director is trolling us hard here. Anyway, I wonder what Saeki-san reaction would be. |
Venuduck said: I am not watching people walk for ten minutes, I don't care how arty it's meant to be so I fast forwarded it. Because of that, it feels as though next to nothing happened this episode. Whether it's artsy or not has little to do with it. It was an important scene that added additional meaning to the actions coming before and after it. When you skip parts of an episode, you can hardly say you actually watched it. |
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| Kasuga and Nakamura walking together was beautiful. I was speechless. When Kasuga walked to school that eerie music was playing. I kept thinking something gonna happen any second. Plus that music kept building up. I guessing it's Kasuga anticipation building up each second as he goes to school. Then Saki finds out it was him!!!! |
| welp, whole lot of nothing happened this week |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| Beautiful walking but I did end up doing other things while that was going on. :P As usual, so tense watching them all with that possibility of discovery just barely avoided. D: |
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| That walk was so damn good... The emotion brought forth just took me by complete surprise. Wow. The music helped with the length of it though, very atmospheric. I liked it. The calm after the storm, it made you think about was was to come, the consequences of their little outburst last episode. And the end. Oh dear... I'm so excited to see what happens next! :D |
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| After reading the manga and watching the anime, I really feel sorry for Saeki, she was the biggest victim in it all. Btw...there was a lot of slow walk in this episode lol |
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| From http://psgels.net/2013/05/27/aku-no-hana-08/ (My favorite animeblog in this season) Aku no Hana, you have balls. I’m probably going to get a lot of people making fun of my tastes again, but heck, it’s not like I suddenly started caring about that or anything. This episode was an amazing aftermath-episode. One of the best in recent years. I mean, it was just perfect for me, it hit all of the right notes. Let’s start with by far the most controversial part of this episode: the start. Five minutes in which the characters just walked. Yeah, first of all I have not seen anything like that in anime ever. Yeah, I really admire the guts of the creators to actually do that. I loved it to bits, and not just because of its novelty value. What we saw there was an incredibly intimate moment. What we saw last episode was just all hell breaking loose. They completely wrecked the classroom. Instead of just cutting to the next morning and show the superficial reactions of Kasuga’s classmates for shock value, the creators showed the mood he and Nakamura were in on the journey back. Nothing was said, we just experienced it. I’ve never seen any other anime do this, even though it showed so many emotions nonverbally. And then there was the rest of the episode. I mean, that was some fantastic build-up. Bit by bit, the creators moved closer to Kasuga’s fears of being found out. The responses by the students, the responses from Saeki, everything was just perfect. Seriously, no overacting whatsoever in htis episode! This was by far the episode with the most convincing acting I’ve seen the entire season. At first I felt a bit let down by how Kasuga’s name was conveniently obscured everywhere, but Saeki more than made up for it by showing that she very well knew what was going on. I mean, that was one heck of a cliff-hanger, even for this series’ high standards. - - Exactly, couldn't agree more than that indeed :D Any haters trying to argue with it? |
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shadowtsunami said: Bison- said: How are people coming to the conclusion the walking lasted 9 minutes? 2:53-9:00 was all walking and 11:26-13:12 was all walking, for a total of 7:54, I counted the repeated scene into this, which was an addition 1:10min lol. No, from 2:53 to 3:05 was not walking, it was scenery. 11:26-13:12 isn't the same sequence, so that doesn't even count. What repeated scene are you talking about? Nevermind, I see what you counted. So, you are combining old material with any sort of walking scene? Lol, that is why I said you guys like to exaggerate :P. The walking scene was 6 minutes. |
KingYoshiMay 29, 2013 12:45 PM
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| when watching this, the first 7 minutes in with the "Walking Arc" im like i know everyone on MAL is gonna make jokes about this, and of coarse thats the first thing i see. pffft when Saeki saw Nakamura holding Kasugas chest i was like "NOOO DONT RUN SAEKI" but of coarse.... Kasuga is the one who runs.....(づ￣ ³￣)づ |
| Okay without reading the manga this is what I can speculate. Kasuga obviously hates the place he lives and sees everyone as shallow and stagnant and he clearly sees the same feelings in Nakamura. He wants to do as she says because deep down he does want to change the world around him. Its obvious something happened in Nakamura's past that made her so psychotic about things and I'm surprised Kasuga hasn't even bothered asking her even though he's spending time with her. In the episode where Kasuga and Saeki date you can tell she actually does like him. I noticed in the thread for that episode people were saying he was a bad date and I dont dissagree but if you look closely you see Saeki getting happy over Kasugas passion for reading even though she doesn't know much about it herself. Saeki gets really emotional when something bad happens and I'm not totally sure if that is just a Japanese type of reaction to things or if something happened to her in the past as well. I also feel like its possible Nakamura is also somehow controlling Saeki the same way she is controlling Kasuga but not as direct as blackmail. Although based on the timing its possible she took the classmates money but I don't see a reason why she would so thats unlikely although the thought passed my mind. Nakamura is making their own personal relation into a game for herself. Nakamuras goal isn't entirely about destroying the town literally its about tearing down boundaries of social norms so people can be themselves but she really seems to lack the understanding of the ego (i hope im using the right psychology term) that prevents us from being purely impulsive careless animals and our ego is part of ourselves. |
| ^ It is true that Saeki loves him even if there was a reason for that but that doesn't change the fact the she loves him. Nakamura is not really controlling anything. She just has this twist personality in her by trying to see the world in black. And she blacked mail him. Soon you will see that she is still a GIRL. I won't say anything more because it will spoil you. You will get most of the answers from you questions in the up coming episode.. |
 "A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie." |
| The first 8 minutes of this episode was a total waste of time. |
| What a pity that we didn't saw them walking throughout the episode, it would have been wonderful. 1000/5 |
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| 15 minutes of walking how delightful! Seriously that was genius OMG how beautiful! |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
traed said: Nakamuras goal isn't entirely about destroying the town literally its about tearing down boundaries of social norms so people can be themselves but she really seems to lack the understanding of the ego (i hope im using the right psychology term) that prevents us from being purely impulsive careless animals and our ego is part of ourselves. Rather than lacking ego, one could say that she is libertine, or more simply one who is morally unrestrained. |
Kjeldoran said: traed said: Nakamuras goal isn't entirely about destroying the town literally its about tearing down boundaries of social norms so people can be themselves but she really seems to lack the understanding of the ego (i hope im using the right psychology term) that prevents us from being purely impulsive careless animals and our ego is part of ourselves. Rather than lacking ego, one could say that she is libertine, or more simply one who is morally unrestrained. Sort of reminds me of Moralistic Nihilism. |
Siva said: I won't say anything more because it will spoil you. You will get most of the answers from you questions in the up coming episode.. But you already spoiling things in your post. He speculates and you answer him by "Nah, that's false, you'll see that in the next episodes". |
YandyMay 30, 2013 2:40 AM
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| I feel like the people who say those long walk scenes are artistically brilliant/genius are the same people who say a dot and a line on a canvas is a masterpiece of art. /end confession bear Good ending though... I'll give it that. |
| It's a pity they dragged out the first half of the series so long; after the classroom vandalism scene is when the good shit really starts to go down. I don't really understand where they're planning to end the series, either. If they'd made it a bit longer or paced it better, they could've ended it at the ideal point, Possible ending they'll be going for instead: And agreed with the above. Two, three minutes tops of walking would've conveyed the feeling they were going for just as well, but instead they pushed it too far. Again. |
| *5 minutes later* Y U STILL WALKING good episode. I'm starting to like Nakamura a little more. I hope she doesn't screw things up...but I think she's alright. I also hope Saeki forgives Kasuga. Would make my day :D |
 3nvy said: that eoten be eatin the pizza pi Does anybody know a way that a body could get away? |
| I really like the BGM they use in this show ... slow, creepy piano music fits my mood PERFECTLY sometimes (and this show, of course!) :P Also new version of the ED it seems ... very minimalistic, quite nice for such a slow episode as this Lots of walking ... a pretty slow episode. Nice build up though, I think the second half was better. So nobody knows it's him ... except for Saeki. I totally expected her to find out, especially since, like she said, the drawing on the floor and book are the same. So Kasuga tries to break up with her ... well, I wonder how this is gonna go down. She deserves an "explanation" at least ... or now it just looks like he likes Nakamura :P Seems like people find out next episode ... oh dear :O |
| Just as something important finally happened, we've returned to the absolutely slow pacing of Episode 1. What's up with that very long walking scene? It even seemed to introduce some sort of romantic subtext between the two... and I don't even remember such a scene from the manga. The last few minutes were better, but man did they just have to cut into that pivotal scene? |
| i though the walking scene was quite eerie actually, not very often i am going to see half an episode of just two people walking and me not complain about it, intense ending with him being caught out. looking forward to see how he reacts to that. |
| To be honest I just skipped the walking. |
| This episode will now be called the episode of walking. REALLY A WASTE OF MY TIME! |
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| I love this show to death, and there's something about the pacing that keeps me interested. The 15 minutes of walking didn't bother me one bit |
| Still less walking than LOTR. |
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okay but how can no one mention dat table awesome episode in the end he revealed himself through his book |
| This episode should be called "walking". |
| I actually just sort of did other things during the walking section of this episode. Than I fully started watching when the walking was over. |
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| Best walking scene in animu history. |
| Oh boy that walking how long did that even take... but really that ending well she got it all figured out! Lets see what happens next! |
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| Walk....Walk....Walk....Walk....Walk....Walk....Walk....Walk....Walk |
| Glad I marathoned this show tonight... The walking is so symbolic and I really liked how calm they were after their manic destruction of the classroom. Calm after the storm. I liked watching their bodies pass through the different backdrops of town... like spirits who don't belong in the world they're in. So much symbolism. New life = New Uniform. Honestly, this might be my fave episode so far purely because it follows no structure that is typical, and takes risks by the slower segments without dialogue. |
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| Loved it. Once I reached this part in the manga, I just couldn't stop reading, so I'm glad that the anime has retained the same feel. |
| Dat walk. |
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| I walk for walking. |
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| That walking scene reminded of that Haruhi episode "Someday in the rain". XD They walked slowly, hand in hand, for six minutes! And the lighting was superb. They really captured the mood and atmosphere of those early dawn hours, before morning sets in. I wasn't sure if I liked the artwork in this anime at first, but I fuckin love it now; and the sound effects in this episode were superb. Can't wait for the next episode! |
 "And if, there were so many people in the world, there had to be someone living an interesting life that wasn't ordinary. I was sure of it. Why wasn't that person me?" - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part V [/center] |
-Nanashi- said: I feel it's going to be just another unfinished anime without any plans to continue it. You are correct. That's exactly what it is. |
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| This was a very good episode. |
| Cartoons and anime is my reality. |
HappyAdventurer said: Eight minutes of walking... Longest walk in anime history |
stb said: Anyone who has had the experience of holding someone's hand for the first time must surely recognize the slow time and the awkward-yet-intimate-silence that accompanies that activity. A beautifully done and very evocative scene, I thought. Presumably, most of the people complaining that it was too long at ~5 minutes have spent three or four hours watching a football game. I guess different people find different things engaging. Oh the 2deep4u card. Sure ,of course.Whatever floats your boat.... |
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