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| If Ledo wasn't dumb as bricks, then maybe he could of convinced Ridget and others that the whale squids are a threat. All he does is ramble on about how they are bad and need to be killed, nothing beyond that. Chamber could probably give better arguements. However I don't expect Ledo to be very capable... he was bred just to push buttons inside chamber and nothing else. Funny how writers didn't make Bevel ask him some more questions about civilization in space and war with Hideaze. It would of been good for backstory. |
| What a sad episode. Must say I shed a tear or two when the commander was rolled off into the ocean. |
edevcimot said: It's been really sad. I almost started crying when seeing Ridget's tears, Ahhh same here the whole episode was done very well if it was able to move people enough that they felt really sad about the commander's death. Great episode it's also pretty sad that Ledo is leaving. Hopefully this plan to make money dosnt wind up being their downfall. 5/5 Very sad but well done. |
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skudoops said: 00Bubbles00 said: If Ledo wasn't dumb as bricks, then maybe he could of convinced Ridget and others that the whale squids are a threat. All he does is ramble on about how they are bad and need to be killed, nothing beyond that. Chamber could probably give better arguements. However I don't expect Ledo to be very capable... he was bred just to push buttons inside chamber and nothing else. Funny how writers didn't make Bevel ask him some more questions about civilization in space and war with Hideaze. It would of been good for backstory. He probably doesn't know anything beyond that. I mean, judging from his conversations about them, what does he know about the hideauze other than they are a threat? Yes very likely. An ignorant hero is almost as bad as an amnesiac hero. It would be nice if Chamber gave a history lesson... like how long have they been fighting the hideaze and what the death toll on humanity has been. |
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Colascka said: Marow said: Fai said: How would you react if some weirdo came into your room and started shouting that your goldfishes will eradicate humanity? I'd try to listen and understand. Yeah right, now you`re talking. Sorry if its sounds rude and my grammar sounds bad, but its not working like that. In fact every normal person would react WTF man? How can my fishes be threat to anyone, I live with them in symbiosis and they didn`t try hurt me or anybody so far. Disbelive goes first. I knew that people will start complainin about characters. From last episode there was Ridget, now is Amy cause she cry for Ledo, who is all alone there and not for Melty, who seem to be rather enjoyed about it, plus she will be there with her grandpa, so not so lonely. Of course Amy was sad, but Melty lightened the mood, trying to change the subject on handsome boys. Also I think the pain from losing person, who you loved is greater than losing a friend (well , at least in my experience. I`ve always had feeling that we may see eachother someday with my friends, although to be separate from love I rather feel that we will never meet again and every moment whitout that person was like an years :'D). Sorry about my bad grammar, but I hope u will understand :'). I understand what you mean. But I'd still listen. I mean, the guy has this huge robot, foreign language or something that makes it clear he isn't from our world, right? Of course I would first answer with disbelief since it's not something I would be able to comprehend. And most likely argue too. But that's part of understanding and learning. And that's what I would do. I wouldn't completely ignore it. |
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| This series actually works pretty well with a more series tone. It wasn't exactly emotionally moving for me (not sure what they were going for anyways, since I don't think most people are emotionally invested enough in the commander and Ridget for the whole thing to be tear-inducingly sad), but I like that we're getting a tone shift now, because it was getting kind of dry and substance-less about two to three episodes ago. Now we're at least getting the chance to reincorporate some elements introduced earlier in the show and tie it all together. |
| Good episode, really sux how Leto can no longer go home, and the fleets been split up heres to hoping nothing bad happens |
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| This was a very sad and quite dramatic episode. The commodore died from his heart attack and made Ridget the commodore instead. Ledo can't go back to his home/space since it'll take thousands of years to send the beacon message across. The scenes with Amy wanting to see Ledo and her thinking about him made my heart ache. :S Amy and Ledo are now separated. Ledo is so fixated on killing every single Hideauze which reminds me of Eren from Attack on Titan being so fixated on killing every single titan. xD Overall, I really enjoyed this episode despite having no action. 5/5 |
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| Great episode, even without any action. Saddening, how things move on. |
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| that execution...great! I don't care about the one who died but due to the flow you'll get sad. Plus it's not overdone like other shows. |
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| damn does that mean only ledo for the next episode and NO AMY AND BELLOWS? NOOOOOOO!!!!! |
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| Really sad ep that the cptn died. Almost really cried at one point, most be because of the atmosphere and the tone that was present in this ep. Looks like their finally going into combat next ep. Also sad that ledo can't go back. Maybe a planetary carrier will come get him in the future? |
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| Damn Pinion royally fucked this up with his "city of gold treasure hunt" idea splitting the fleet. Interesting to see if they merge back together at the end after maybe a huge battle and loss vs the Whalesquids/Hidiaazu(sp?). Great episode aside from the Captains death being so quick... as in he wakes up hands over the key then dies with in seconds... Loved the faces Amy displayed while she was cooking over the conversation about Ledo. ... Haha the comments in this series threads still have yet to disappoint... Some of you need to read a bit more and expanding your thinking... or just keep posting highly comical post ^_^ |
lanfireMay 26, 2013 10:06 PM
| Welp nothing much happened this week that we didn't expect, so there's not much to talk about theorywise. The exception would be the twist that the empire is far out of reach. Although it's a very realistic outcome if you presume he was just randomly flung into space, and he happened to be thrown to Earth, it still wasn't something which I was expecting (which is kinda funny). I can see two ways for this to develop: 1) it'll stay as a story isolated from the empire 2) they will find some kinda ancient FTL drive, or a machine capable of sending high speed transmissions. Unfortunately, for me the death scene held close to no emotional impact. We barely knew the guy, so I feel dedicating an entire episode to it was a bit too much. I also think the anime-cliche of going "I am weak and I can't do everything alone, so please help me everyone" is a bit silly. Personally I'd walk out on such a leader on the spot. Yeah, it's nice to be able to trust in others and delegate jobs properly, but at least present a solid plan for the future and show that you are a capable leader after putting yourself down. Personally I'd have preferred if we were shown more interaction between the cast before they split off, instead of watching this much of the funeral procession. |
Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| So Red isn't just brainwashed. He cares about Amy and that's why he wants to fight. |
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| This was such a nicely done episode despite there being nothing much really happening. Amy and Ledo sure have gotten close with each other. =/ Those tears. I just get a bad feeling about him fighting all of those hideauze. |
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00Bubbles00 said: skudoops said: 00Bubbles00 said: If Ledo wasn't dumb as bricks, then maybe he could of convinced Ridget and others that the whale squids are a threat. All he does is ramble on about how they are bad and need to be killed, nothing beyond that. Chamber could probably give better arguements. However I don't expect Ledo to be very capable... he was bred just to push buttons inside chamber and nothing else. Funny how writers didn't make Bevel ask him some more questions about civilization in space and war with Hideaze. It would of been good for backstory. He probably doesn't know anything beyond that. I mean, judging from his conversations about them, what does he know about the hideauze other than they are a threat? Yes very likely. An ignorant hero is almost as bad as an amnesiac hero. It would be nice if Chamber gave a history lesson... like how long have they been fighting the hideaze and what the death toll on humanity has been. Frankly I am not even sure there IS anything more to know about it apart from propaganda. I mean, Alliance does not even HAVE the concept of "co-existence" and considering its an authoritarian military state, most likely 99% of stuff you can learn would be propaganda. |
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AlexGK said: PoeticJustice said: But let us look at the story that is supposed to be told here. It is not about the Gargantia, it is about a young boy who only knew war. He comes to a foreign planet and learns what it means to be "human." This is not Battleship. And besides, Ridget will have many people help her along the way, who else was the Commander supposed to nominate? Almost all of her shipmates are old as hell anyway. Fine, call it wrong setting for that kind of story then. Icebreaker93 said: SAO is sh1t compared to this. Well, lets say its just me then. Actually, I take that back now that I see the episode ratings. Its not just me then. I stand on my opinion - Greatest letdown in recent years, worse than SAO. And there was a time I didn't think anything could fail harder than SAO. 1st time for everything. There is still hope though - 4 episodes are still ahead. That and the fact that SAO was that overhyped fail. |
AlexGKMay 27, 2013 12:06 AM
00Bubbles00 said: Funny how writers didn't make Bevel ask him some more questions about civilization in space and war with Hideaze. It would of been good for backstory. Yeah! Because forced exposition is AMAZING storytelling... always a good choice... On the topic of the episode: Very well done. It was sad and mournful, but not melodramatic (tears from teenagers and mourning daughters are understandable), and also showed the development of Ledo. He is no longer only fighting just because it's his mission, he's beginning to formulate coherent reasons for his fight: he wants to protect Amy and humanity. He also shows a rebelliousness toward the Alliance propaganda when he tells Bevel that he doesn't want the utilitarian mentality to take over Gargantia. I thought the Ridget parts were well done if you understand the reasoning behind it. She is coming to terms with being a leader, and part of that was letting go of both her father-figure and letting the ships go without making a scene or causing a fuss. It did well at showcasing the more democratic side of Gargantia and was semi-realistic in the problems a young, brand new leader would face after the death of a long-time, respected leader and mentor/father figure. Amy also showed maturity near the end by not whining at Ledo as he said good-bye. People can call it boring, but I prefer story-telling that isn't afraid to take it's time and to really highlight the personal aspect of characterization. Action is all well and good, but it should ALWAYS take a back seat to good, solid story-telling. Further, this was the point of all the "boring" episodes beforehand: to introduce the humanization of Ledo and to highlight the emotions of the other characters. I don't think we were supposed to cry at the death of the Commander, or at Ledo leaving; we were just supposed to understand the feelings of the people involved, understand why Ridget is so emotionally affected, why Amy is crying, and why it means a lot that Ledo is actually THINKING about something other than his mission. The fact that Ledo discusses his younger brother with Bevel means that he's actually thought about it, and has to some degree been hurt by the memory. He is already showing cracks in his robot-soldier facade. Most shows would have skipped the character building and used the classic mistake of assuming that Tell is as good as Show in storytelling. It takes a certain kind of courage to slow down and really work at building the character in a realistic way: no huge space battles, no pseudo-intellectual rants, no over-blown action scenes to give cheap drama and exposition; just simple every day life. People in this anime have conversations they would realistically have. They do things they would realistically do. They make mistakes, they don't communicate, they doubt themselves and others, and they don't spend hours talking about shit. They work, they play, they live, they eat, they love, they lose, they grow, and when they die, they just die. No huge fanfare; no ten-minute speeches, just a peaceful death and a funeral and everyone else picking up the pieces and trying to move on. Well, haters gonna hate; armchair critics gonna expect bad tropes and worse techniques and be disappointed when they don't get them. What're ya gonna do? You can lead horses to water, but you can't make 'em drink. On a side note: Pinion dies next. Heroic sacrifice to teach Ledo the true meaning of loss and finalize his understanding of the depth of human interaction. |
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PoeticJustice said: Spiegelmeister said: Crazy theory here, but bear with me. Don't mind me :) *whistles nonchalantly* One can only hope.... You're rooting for a plot development like this, and yet two comments ago you were blaming others for not taking this as a SoL show? Seems like some of the anti-haters here are just jumping on the bandwagon. Slow episode was slow. Clash between setting and intended message from the story is evident. Emotional developments were loosely constructed. And not only was it slow, Ledo was barely present in any of it. With four episodes left, I see little potential for a satisfactory conclusion. Ledo's realization that he cannot return to the Alliance was really expected at this stage, although I now question why they didn't do this earlier. I suppose it is because Ledo's affair with the whalesquids is the last remaining vestige of his identity as a member of the Alliance, that he must deal with before becoming a permanent citizen of Earth. What is he going to do after he manages to kill all the whalesquids? Going with Gen's intended theme about finding a place in society, would it perhaps make sense if what they discover renders the Alliance's struggle against the Hideauze meaningless, or simply no longer relevant to his situation? I can't imagine otherwise. If so, that would make this a pretty weak series in terms of story and conveying of the central message. |
morrownight said: What is he going to do after he manages to kill all the whalesquids? Going with Gen's intended theme about finding a place in society, would it perhaps make sense if what they discover renders the Alliance's struggle against the Hideauze meaningless, or simply no longer relevant to his situation? I can't imagine otherwise. If so, that would make this a pretty weak series in terms of story and conveying of the central message. I doubt he will kill all the whale-squids, or even come close to doing so. And I further doubt that the Alliance's struggle will be rendered meaningless or irrelevant. It will probably be more along the lines of showing him that the Alliance is responsible for the struggle in the first place, and that the Hideauze were never the aggressors. That the continuation of utilitarianism and totalitarianism of the Alliance was ultimately the cause and the goal of the struggle. The shattering of his world-view and his purpose for existing. Thus with the death of his old self and purpose, a new self and purpose can emerge. It's been a character story all along, with overarching messages of hope and rebirth and experiencing new worlds and new things. I fail to see how even your scenario would go against any of that... |
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| Was I suppose to care for the Commander?? I just learned his name this episode though..... |
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StopDropAndBowl said: Most shows would have skipped the character building and used the classic mistake of assuming that Tell is as good as Show in storytelling. It takes a certain kind of courage to slow down and really work at building the character in a realistic way: no huge space battles, no pseudo-intellectual rants, no over-blown action scenes to give cheap drama and exposition; just simple every day life. People in this anime have conversations they would realistically have. They do things they would realistically do. They make mistakes, they don't communicate, they doubt themselves and others, and they don't spend hours talking about shit. They work, they play, they live, they eat, they love, they lose, they grow, and when they die, they just die. No huge fanfare; no ten-minute speeches, just a peaceful death and a funeral and everyone else picking up the pieces and trying to move on. On a side note: Pinion dies next. Heroic sacrifice to teach Ledo the true meaning of loss and finalize his understanding of the depth of human interaction. I basically liked everything you said :D It's like what someone said earlier on, that the emotions felt very organic. I think this anime captures the slice of life feel better than most anime that are meant to be just slice of life. Not to mention, I think they do a great job in terms of world building through these slice of life moments, and the bgm really helps a lot with the tone. But back to the realistic part. I also thought that the funeral scene was done very well because, thank goodness, we don't hear anyone wailing (not that it's not realistic but it can be too dramatic). This anime definitely is different because it "shows" and not "tells." It's quite a refreshing take, but it's too bad not everyone will appreciate or understand it. But what's that you say? Pinion will die next? o_o I can actually see that happening, it would be the best trigger for Ledo to really get out of his soldier mentality/his perspective on everything. |
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Num1dad_Asura said: Was I suppose to care for the Commander?? I just learned his name this episode though..... Look at Gargantia, Flange, his old picture with Rigit, Rigit's father and the doctor etc. His conversation with the doctor, his leadership during the pirate's attack etc. Under him, Gargantia is peaceful, people are smiling, enjoying festival. His council's look up to and respect him, he's a father figure to Rigit. While he may not have enough screen time for a lot of us to really care about him, but he is not just some random "kill him off" character. I didn't know him for too long, heck, I don't even know his name up til this episode, but I do, however, respect his character for the peace that Gargantia found/maintained under his command. |
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StopDropAndBowl said: 00Bubbles00 said: Funny how writers didn't make Bevel ask him some more questions about civilization in space and war with Hideaze. It would of been good for backstory. Yeah! Because forced exposition is AMAZING storytelling... always a good choice... On the topic of the episode: Very well done. It was sad and mournful, but not melodramatic (tears from teenagers and mourning daughters are understandable), and also showed the development of Ledo. He is no longer only fighting just because it's his mission, he's beginning to formulate coherent reasons for his fight: he wants to protect Amy and humanity. He also shows a rebelliousness toward the Alliance propaganda when he tells Bevel that he doesn't want the utilitarian mentality to take over Gargantia. I thought the Ridget parts were well done if you understand the reasoning behind it. She is coming to terms with being a leader, and part of that was letting go of both her father-figure and letting the ships go without making a scene or causing a fuss. It did well at showcasing the more democratic side of Gargantia and was semi-realistic in the problems a young, brand new leader would face after the death of a long-time, respected leader and mentor/father figure. Amy also showed maturity near the end by not whining at Ledo as he said good-bye. People can call it boring, but I prefer story-telling that isn't afraid to take it's time and to really highlight the personal aspect of characterization. Action is all well and good, but it should ALWAYS take a back seat to good, solid story-telling. Further, this was the point of all the "boring" episodes beforehand: to introduce the humanization of Ledo and to highlight the emotions of the other characters. I don't think we were supposed to cry at the death of the Commander, or at Ledo leaving; we were just supposed to understand the feelings of the people involved, understand why Ridget is so emotionally affected, why Amy is crying, and why it means a lot that Ledo is actually THINKING about something other than his mission. The fact that Ledo discusses his younger brother with Bevel means that he's actually thought about it, and has to some degree been hurt by the memory. He is already showing cracks in his robot-soldier facade. Most shows would have skipped the character building and used the classic mistake of assuming that Tell is as good as Show in storytelling. It takes a certain kind of courage to slow down and really work at building the character in a realistic way: no huge space battles, no pseudo-intellectual rants, no over-blown action scenes to give cheap drama and exposition; just simple every day life. People in this anime have conversations they would realistically have. They do things they would realistically do. They make mistakes, they don't communicate, they doubt themselves and others, and they don't spend hours talking about shit. They work, they play, they live, they eat, they love, they lose, they grow, and when they die, they just die. No huge fanfare; no ten-minute speeches, just a peaceful death and a funeral and everyone else picking up the pieces and trying to move on. Well, haters gonna hate; armchair critics gonna expect bad tropes and worse techniques and be disappointed when they don't get them. What're ya gonna do? You can lead horses to water, but you can't make 'em drink. On a side note: Pinion dies next. Heroic sacrifice to teach Ledo the true meaning of loss and finalize his understanding of the depth of human interaction. Best post here. Anyone who bitches about the lack of action should read this. |
AlexGK said: AlexGK said: PoeticJustice said: But let us look at the story that is supposed to be told here. It is not about the Gargantia, it is about a young boy who only knew war. He comes to a foreign planet and learns what it means to be "human." This is not Battleship. And besides, Ridget will have many people help her along the way, who else was the Commander supposed to nominate? Almost all of her shipmates are old as hell anyway. Fine, call it wrong setting for that kind of story then. Icebreaker93 said: SAO is sh1t compared to this. Well, lets say its just me then. Actually, I take that back now that I see the episode ratings. Its not just me then. I stand on my opinion - Greatest letdown in recent years, worse than SAO. And there was a time I didn't think anything could fail harder than SAO. 1st time for everything. There is still hope though - 4 episodes are still ahead. That and the fact that SAO was that overhyped fail. I agree on the letdown but going as far as to say it was more disappointing than SAO is going a little overboard... There might be only 4 episodes left but i feel like this is going to end on some kind of cliffhanger bait for a season 2, there is no way the story can end in a satisfactory manner in such a short amount of time ! Especially considering the slow paced progression so far, it would feel completely out of place to feed us with a chain-reaction of ass-pulls just as we near the end of the series/season. So imo there will be some major discovery(ies) and/or plot twists on the last episodes that will lead to whole new perspectives for a next season. At least that's what i'm hoping for... i would hate to see this turn into a cheesy boring "slice of life" kind of ending. |
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AlexGK said: Actually, I take that back now that I see the episode ratings. Its not just me then. I stand on my opinion - Greatest letdown in recent years, worse than SAO. And there was a time I didn't think anything could fail harder than SAO. 1st time for everything. There is still hope though - 4 episodes are still ahead. That and the fact that SAO was that overhyped fail. Comparing SAO to this is just retarded, you got baited into thinking this was an action show because you were misinformed, this is primarily a slice of life and was always meant to be. It hasn't failed at that by any means even though I'm finding this show less interesting as it goes on so far. This was never hyped anything like SAO either and frankly is a completely different genre and aimed at a different demographic. |
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| Good episode!!! Gargantia is going to take a new direction with several ships including Flange's ships are leaving. Since Pinion is aiming to acquire the treasure in Hideauze's nest then it also means that Ledo is also persuaded to come along as are aiming for the same place. Seems like Melty is also leaving the Trio and I was sure that Amy would go with Ledo but I guess she can't leave Bevel behind. I wonder if we ever get to see Gargantia again because they may just show things from Ledo's point of view from next episode. IF that is the case, I will miss seeing Bellows and the other people. Ridget seems to be building up self confidence as she vows to live up to the expectations of Commodore Fairlock to which the spirit of Gargantia still resides in a lot of people. Chamber tells Ledo that it is practically impossible to reach back to the Galactic Alliance as they need to travel at the speed of the light to which they have no means of doing. RIP to Commodore Fairlock!! Looking forward to the next episode!! 5/5 |
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| Dear haters and anti-haters: instead of taking sides and bashing each other, how's finding out where our true differences lie and avoiding any further mud-slinging? I'll try to get down to the roots here. Ledo's transformation is simply not convincing. And whenever the main message isn't getting through, every other aspect of the show, every stroke of emotional appeal that attempts to paint "character development" looks contrived and out of place. Consider the Alliance and its cause, and what place it actually has in forming Ledo's character. Many of you are quick to label the Alliance as a utilitarian military state (as if this was inherently evil) bent on taking over the universe, provoked or otherwise, and the Hideauze as a family of peace-loving creatures who just happen to be dispersed throughout space, minding their own business and doing their thing, like the snails that are constantly raiding people's backyards. Would you forsake pest control? I don't know how other people might see this, but the concept of "co-existence" that we humans champion today, is really just "Leave the ones that don't bother us alone, get rid of the ones that do, and try to keep the ones that look pretty." Yes, I am being serious. Why isn't anyone out there shouting, "Let's stop the war on HIV! They're just tiny little viruses doing their thing, if they want to take some human lives in the process, let 'em do it! We gotta give each other some space!"? Because there is no such thing as perfect coexistence, just as there is no such thing as unlimited resources. Blame evolution for giving humans the ability to rise above our animal brethren. The way people antagonize the Alliance and utilitarianism in general is deeply rooted in their belief systems, which is shaped by their political environments. This is why I compared this show to Shingeki. There are two types of people in this world: those who join the Police Corps and those who join the Recon Corps. Contrary to what it may seem, I am not advocating joining the Recon Corps. I am saying that both are perfectly reasonable and recurring states of human existence. Neither one is INHERENTLY evil; they are the result of nature . So as you can see, my distaste for this show has nothing to do with the lack of action. It is because I do not find it a satisfactory argument for world peace. It does not make an argument at all, even; it simply assumes that peace and co-existence is the correct path for humanity, which makes it impossible to justify Ledo's place in this society. And that was the whole point of the show. I am not convinced, and neither is Ledo. |
tealcactusMay 27, 2013 7:19 AM
| While the funeral was well done IMO, it was too much of the episode. I could find no emotional connection with a guy who had less than a paragraph of dialogue in 8 episodes. As someone stated earlier, I would have liked Ledo to explain more about the squids to the Gargantia people and Amy, but perhaps as someone bred just to fight, he doesn't know much other than they are the enemy. Oh well. Four episodes left? I really hope it starts to pick up fast, the first 2 episodes really had me sucked in, then all the rest of the episodes detailing the daily life of waterworld just fell flat for me. |
| 5/5 evilcyber said: but a nice eps btw~  nice art and oppai ~ I hate to see the souls of anime44 because it takes away a part of the episode, not the breasts that do not interest me, but for the portion of the show that has the whole look for! Episode that has the merit of making us see that the life of every day is not only fun and positivity. Here there is a problem of sexism, but some skepticism due to the young age of Ridgett, who would not think so? A person more expert, more reliability can show respect to a person younger even if good, then Ridgett did not show that much charisma yet. nice also the different point of view of the two protagonists both aim at the same reason, but they behave differently, even the relationships between the various characters are very valid, all prove to be personable, but do not hide propylene thoughts. The question of the master, they more than dwell on the figure itself, we should focus on context and made very well for me, feels thanks to the silences and the BGM charged atmosphere of pain and angosci for the future prossimo.Ultima thing, I'm curious to see how the relationship will evolve between Ledo and Melty! * _ * I'm liking a lot of the anime, I had already set his vision as Slice of Life and not as a shonen full of wars, the plot also gave a similar indication, then there is still categorized according part, everything is possible and nothing is excluded! |
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| @morrow you raise good points and I mostly agree with you, but you should realize that it's impossible to get a legit discussion going here. I mean someone just said that having the Gargantians ask Ledo for background info on the galactic civilization would be forced exposition... Yeah it's totally unnatural to ask the visiting alien (when you don't even have the technology to breach the stratosphere) about his origins when he's friendly. Personally I don't dislike this show, but I do have similar issues. blueyedsamurai said: Fai said: How would you react if some weirdo came into your room and started shouting that your goldfishes will eradicate humanity? If that weirdo came from the stars with technology thousands of years ahead of ours, then I would probably believe him If you want to keep your sanity, you might wanna give up now. |
Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| I find it weird that actually a lot of people got teary over the funeral of someone we barely saw... I respect him, but getting teary over him is too much... Oh by the way, it's been 8 episodes now and people still don't get Urobuchi only wrote two episodes..... |
AlexGK said: Emotional scenes wont work that well when you didn't have any attachment to the characters in question. And so far we haven't seen anything spectacular from the captain. To me he looked like loved but weak leader. Dunno, might just be me, but the show is the greatest letdown for me in recent years. Even greater than SAO, and that's saying much. Score down to 5/10 and with the 4 episodes that we have left this looks like a lost cause already. What a waste of setting, art, music and VA talent. Hmm...I could argue with you but I have this rule were I check a persons taste before I argue with them. So lets see... Anime completed = 105 Favorite anime = Toradora, Naruto: Shippuuden, Fairytale. Animes given a 10 = Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!, Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, B Gata H Kei, Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai. ....and you dare lecture others on good storytelling and taste? Come back when you have become a veteran young Padawan. Not even worth my time. |
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