Vampire Knight Chapter 93 Discussion

akatsukireunites said:

This chapter was shitty, why is everyone bothering to argue what happened and over- analyze everything?

Vesperlynd said:
So many fucking things that make no sense. Hino fucking fails


- Pregnant first time and only time she has sex with Kaname. Using Yuuki’s womb as a plot device, for shame.

- Kaname may recover his memories in the future and either die in agony or be saved and helplessly remember all the sad shit he went through.

- 89-92 meaningless filler.

- The children lose their parents. And the girl is Kaname’s daughter so she’s a pureblood and will eventually lose her brother too and live through all those painful pb issues. Like having to kill herself eventually because immortality is painful. Does Aidou and co’s ‘medicine’ resolve that issue? NOPE (EDIT: I read the whole set of raws last night andI guess she could take that medicine and become human. A huge disappointment though - when was being a pureblood a bad thing?)

And if we were going to get Zeki endgame anyway, all that bullshit Zero memory loss and Yume sex shouldn’t have been published because it’s just embarrassingly bad writing. Cut out 88-92, purebloods attack at the ball in 87 - skip straight to 93. There, fixed it for you

vkfan993 said:
Hello, readers, I have a few things I must ask that I didn't quite understand from the final chapter:

1.How come zero only lived less than 1000 years, even tho he drank the blood of multiple purebloods + he was supplied with the blood of Yuki.I mean he was basically one of the strongest characters at the time...

2.What is the canonical translation of the final scene?I mean does the girls say "MY other father" or "OUR other father"?If she is Kaname's daughter and the boy is Zero's child, why does she look older than him?I mean she's a pureblood, she should age a LOT slower than the boy.Unless the boy was born hundreds of years later, which means Zero couldn't impregnate her for centuries?IDK, it feels like he's getting less "credit" than he deserves.I mean he was the right guy for her and ends up being used as a replacement and also:

3.If the girl is Kaname's child and the boy is Zero's child, does that mean the boy is inferrior to the girl?I mean it would mean that the girl is 100% pureblood and stronger and will live forever, while the boy is probably Noble class level or something like that, so he is weaker and he will die of age and this leads me to the final point:

4.If Zero's son dies of age, Kaname's daughter will live alone forever and they probably both realize that.Doesn't that mean there's a high chance that she decide to give Kaname her blood and regain his memories and his pureblood status, so she won't have to fear being alone forever?

Arurie said:
I reeeeeally hope the daughter is from Zero. If not... I will cut someone.
Zero is happy in the end, so I'm happy... I guess. I mean, he's basically Kaname's replacement and is fine with that...
ZERO, HAVE A LITTLE SELF-WORTH. >_<
And wait... 1000 years passed? Does that mean that's how long Zero ended up living?
How is that even possible... O_o

falcone90 said:

afterall Yuuki already accept her punishment, since no matter which her choice, her thirst can't really be fullfilled until she died and lift Kaname curse to live and die as normal human. Since those children looked so much like Yuuki and Zero, it seems like those two are still alive (btw, the girl looked prettier than yuuki and their chilren might be couple,XD)

obviouslygeeky said:


I had been wondering about this myself, because you like said that they could both Zero's kids. I think though that it is more likely that the daughter is Kaname's daughter because I think that Hino wants to give both YUME and ZEKI something. I also think the translation calling Kaname the other father meaning that he is her biological father (with Zero being her other father, the one who raised her) makes more sense. But I guess this is one of those details which will probably become clearer as we get more info and better translations.

I don't understand why people are still attempting to carry on with the ships wars, I mean, both ships are canon but I think there is a final pairing. Regardless of your opinion on whether or not he is the second choice the ship that sailed in the end is clearly Zeki. When Kaname ripped his heart out and gave Zeki is blessing he left the triangle, he gave up on being a romantic option for Yuuki. Even if Yuuki still had romantic feelings for Kaname when she turned him into a human at that point in the story Yume was no longer possible. A couple can't exist when one person is dead (Yuuki) and the other person (Kaname) doesn't remember the other individual. Yume's relationship ended when he decided to leave her in Zero's care. BTW even though Yuuki isn't thought of highly by many fans, she does have free will, even though Kaname wanted Zeki together she didn't have to go along with the idea, she MADE A CHOICE, there is no way anyone forced her. Yes, what Yuuki did for Kaname in the end was beautiful moment and an act of love (romantic or otherwise depending on your bias), but it does not mean that Yume was the endgame ship.

Schwindt2011 said:
I just want to know what the kids names are, I am writing fan fiction and making sure I spell everything right, in the ending of the manga, the vampire Knight manga, in the ending, what are the kids names?, that's all I want to know, send me a message if you have a reply, I really would appreciate your answer if you have one

M00ner said:


The daughter's name is Ai Kuran and the son's name is unkown.

Redfright said:
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Both of them are female, the younger child gender have not been confirmed but most likely a female so do go round saying the child is a son. Both are daughters.

Vesperlynd said:
So many fucking things that make no sense. Hino fucking fails


- Pregnant first time and only time she has sex with Kaname. Using Yuuki’s womb as a plot device, for shame.

- Kaname may recover his memories in the future and either die in agony or be saved and helplessly remember all the sad shit he went through.

- 89-92 meaningless filler.

- The children lose their parents. And the girl is Kaname’s daughter so she’s a pureblood and will eventually lose her brother too and live through all those painful pb issues. Like having to kill herself eventually because immortality is painful. Does Aidou and co’s ‘medicine’ resolve that issue? NOPE (EDIT: I read the whole set of raws last night andI guess she could take that medicine and become human. A huge disappointment though - when was being a pureblood a bad thing?)

And if we were going to get Zeki endgame anyway, all that bullshit Zero memory loss and Yume sex shouldn’t have been published because it’s just embarrassingly bad writing. Cut out 88-92, purebloods attack at the ball in 87 - skip straight to 93. There, fixed it for you

M00ner said:


Zero and Yuki's child IS a boy. It even says it here.

Orulyon said:
So resuming:
Group hug. Zeki ending together. Kaname asleep. Yuuki has a daughter from Kaname and a son from Zero. Thousands of years pass. Zero dies. Yuuki gives her life to make Kaname human and he awakes to stay with his "children" who call him "our other dad". Who knows, Kurans like incest, so he might marry his own daughter. (Hino should have made Zero's son a female, LOOOL).

translation: http://vampire-knight.livejournal.com/1028720.html#cutid1

Well, all I have to say is...what a shitty end, as expected. Yuuki remained in love with Kaname and chose Zero because Kaname wasn't available. She has children from both, the new "kiryuu". Hino matsuri didnt have courage to leave one of the guys out.

Finally its over. It was a pleasure to debate VK with you during all these years in these threads. Bless you all, goodbye! Hope to join you in a thread of a better manga.

Lalalandzz said:
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Here's come the end of our long journey guys...The last chapter is hereeeee!!!!

Full chapter 93 [RAW]: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2346437468

Translation [This is NOT a direct Japanese-English translation!]: http://vampire-knight.livejournal.com/1028720.html

Full chapter 93 (English Translation): http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/93
(2nd pg cracked me up so hard! LOL)

Main events:
- Kaname will not die after he throws his heart into furnace. He gives his blessings to both Zero and Yuuki before he goes into deep slumber (trio hugs!). [Mostly contains YuMe moments]
- The fight between vampire and hunter is over. The building is crumbled down and all hunter weapons are shattered. (Zero, again saves our heroin's ass because well, Yuuki...is being Yuuki with her shattered Artemis *face-palm*)
- Aidou preserves Kaname's body with his ice and discovers researches on a cure that can turn vampires into humans in Kuran family library (written by Kaname). [Mostly contains ZeKi moments]
- Possibly future pairings!?: The scene captured both KaitoxYori and YagarixSeiren in one panel XD. (Oh God, the scene where Maria looks at Zero with unrequited love makes me cry! To hell with Yuuki!)
- Cross Academy is finally back to normal. The scene shows Grandma Yori is telling her grandchildren about vampires and her old days with Yuuki. It also implied ShikixRima and KainxRuka ending.
=========1,000 years have passed=========
- Yuuki ends up with Zero until his last breath.
- Yuuki bears two children; One girl and one boy. (Probably older sister is Kaname's and younger brother is Zero's or both could be Zero's; we've nothing to confirmed but the girl refers Kaname as 'my other father') [So it could be the former or the latter as many have claimed that because Yuuki is still love both Kaname and Zero, she would, no doubt, let her kids acknowledge that they have two fathers, regardless of who their 'real' father is. There's also the theory why Hino-sensei put the YuMe sex scene in the first place just for this. So, please use discretion.] and takes both of them to visit Zero's grave.
- Yuuki also takes them to where Kaname is still in his deep slumber (Despite Aidou finishing the cure, Kaname's heart, taken back from the furnace, can't withstand the effect of the cure, nor can it even wake him up) and dies THANK GOD! giving her life to turn Kaname into human and left messages for him to her children.
- Kaname wakes up and his human life begins! (with no memories?)

THE END!

obviouslygeeky said:


IA, I think cutting out those chaps would of reduced the hate towards the ending quite a bit.
Re: Kaname and his memories, looking at Yuuki's experience of being turned human you would think that turning Kaname into a human is doomed to be a bad idea eventually. But I bet that according to some magic Hino logic that it all turns ok and Kaname is happy, that was the whole point of Yuuki turning him into a human. It's illogical I know but I am sure that is what Hino intends for fans to take away from that mess.
As for the children losing their parents, well, at this stage you would assume Yuuki and Zero had lived for years and that their children have also enjoyed their parents company for a long time - parents can't live forever after all.
It's bad for Kaname's daughter as you said since she is a pureblood but perhaps she finds another pureblood to share eternity with her which reduces the loneliness. Also, I guess if Kaname does regain his memories and reverts back to being a pureblood she gets her father back lol.

koko_popk said:
Mais je ne comprend pas zero il meurt comment c'est un vampire nn et dans qu'elle chapitre !!!!!??????????

Mgst123 said:
Everything in the end was all crap. Yuuki was such a jerk and Zero was like a desperate old man. I ship Zero and Yuuki, but d#mn that was so low. Yuuki, sleeping with Kaname and bearing his child, Yori pushing Zero and Yuuki to be together, drinking each others blood, live together, and they sleep together and also bearing Zero's child, it was almost perfect but Zero died protecting Yuuki and the child and devoured Zero, then Yuuki revived Kaname into human with her life in the front of her children saying the man who he love in the world, I wonder how Ren would feel? I feel so sorry for Zero his character had so much tragic, he lost his family because of Kaname, becoming a vampire and also loving someone who loves Kaname, his rival and the root of his all suffering. He deserve better by just being a tool and a love substitute.