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Oct 12, 2007 10:54 PM
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That was a beautiful episode. I just loved how they played that children song. I can't believe the ride is almost over, looking forward to the final episode.
Oct 13, 2007 3:36 AM
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Yep, it was great indeed. I also love the song. The short version is on the OST II but I can't find the full one :/ Speaking of which, the second OST is great. Better then the first.
Looking forward to see the conclusion to this great show.

edit: Actually the full version of the song "Nahji no Uta" is on the first OST.
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Oct 13, 2007 6:31 AM
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Amazing Episode. Song fited there well.

To think it will end next week :')
Oct 13, 2007 6:51 AM
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great ep, it made me sad tho :/ one more ep then its over, wonder if we'd see balsa and tanda together as a happy end
Oct 13, 2007 10:38 AM
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Amazing episode. For a while I thought the show had only 25 episodes, so I thought it would have ended there. But I paused it before the credits and looked on my list and seen it was 26 episodes. I can't wait for the last episode... this series started out kinda boring... then turned into something amazing.
Oct 13, 2007 11:34 AM
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Agreed, this ep was pretty awesome, I lold it when Shaman Torogai poked that dead La Lunga, and how Balsa and Tanda held hand in hand to extract the egg, followed by that Nahji no Uta. Just awesome, everything was fit into place, cant wait for next episode. I cant believe it's ending soon..;_;
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Wow, so it looks like I'm in the minority when I express little more than dissapointment at this episode, which I found to be an underwhelming experience to say the least. In terms of its degree of excitement, or its emotional impact, the episode falls bellow many other episodes earlier in the series (episode 3 and episode 21 jump to mind). The production values that were so apparent much earlier in the series appeared to have jumped ship in this episode, as the fight scenes were poorly rendered and boasted an obviously low frame-rate. Much of my dislike for the animation this episode may stem from the way the claw monsters were animated - they were far too lacking in detail department to appear either threatening, or even look like a believable living creature. IG's use of CG in this show has been (thankfully) restrained to subtle touches to background animation, but when it was used for these creatures it came off looking very poor. The background art in this episode was less remarkable than it has frequently been in the past.

But I am no action-junkie, and a good story, with strong emotional themes is something I value highly. However, this episode felt sloppily written, failing entirely to bring together the escalating tension and thematic developments into something powerful or memorable. A good story should weave in a build-up in its themes and character development to deliver a strong climax, but in the case of Seirei no Moribito they meander around the series, resulting in this episode falling very flat. I feel like I've been cheated, letting all that story development go to waste on something so straightforward and uncompelling as this. Sure, we still have the epilogue in episode 26 to look forward to, but using an epilogue to pay-off a dramatic story is a very cheap trick indeed. It will have to be pretty damned fantastic to redeem this sultry affair.

I smell wated potential, and it stinks.
Mar 5, 2008 6:36 PM
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The animation quality indoubtfully went in the last few episodes, which left me puzzled.... Were they rushing it or what? Why weren't they spending more time making an high quality ending?

Anyway, a LOT of symbolism in this episode. Especially the "birth" scene, which is a rite of passage for Chagum into adulthood (kind of similar to some tribe where girls must give birth before attaining the rank of women) It is also noticeable how the three "family" members, Balsa, Tanda and Chagum assisted the birth of the egg.....

Animation fails compared to the beginning of the season (or is it just A-Kraze bad rendering for the last few episodes??) but still very good. The battles between the hunters and the La Lunga was just too simplistically animated compared to the battles of Jiguro. But the story part was really really satisfying.
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Jan 15, 2009 4:33 AM
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Good episode, the fight and struggle is over.
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This was another good episode. For some reason the use of music stuck out to me. Whether it was during the final battle with the La Lungas or anywhere else throughout the episode I thought the use and choice of music were spot on and helped accentuate the scenes they were used in.
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I think the bird who took the egg is the one Sagam freed before dying.
Jun 23, 2009 12:57 AM

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Wow it's nearly over, what an interesting way it was all conducted.
Aug 7, 2009 6:41 AM

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I could only say that it was an Awesome episode...
Dec 17, 2009 2:57 PM

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I liked it a lot too. Even though there were tentacle monsters everywhere. I also like the children's song a lot. It felt a little awkward to watch Chagum care for the egg as it was his baby or something, lol.
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lol, I thought that was weird too... he was talking to it like a proud mama.... not to mention the labor pains. XD

The fighting scenes in this ep and the previous ep weren't nearly as awesome as the earlier battles. Maybe they couldn't figure out how to smoothly animate a battle with a weird crab-like tentacle creature and combine it with the amazing martial arts that could be seen throughout the series...

Still, the emotional aspect of the show was still spot on and the music emphasized it perfectly. I love the Nahji no Uta song... ever since the first episode it's been stuck in my head. ^_^

Now the only things left to do are marry off Tanda and Balsa, put Chagum back in the palace and make sure to record these events so that the next Nyunga Ro Im will be protected the way he or she should be. No more of these false histories.

I'm really sad that it's coming to an end. TT-TT I want to see more! *runs off to watch ep 26*
Jun 15, 2010 11:10 PM
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Fionartan said:
lol, I thought that was weird too... he was talking to it like a proud mama.... not to mention the labor pains. XD


I loled at that part too. I guess childbirth even when it's a spiritual C-section is a literal pain in the ass!

Although all of this has me wonder how other Egg holders were taken care of? They said the Yakue people handled it in centuries past by themselves though in some cases it wasn't always good for the carrier.

Also I had no idea that the nahji was the species of the bird that Sagum was taking care of! Did they tell us that before or was it never revealed?
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they only told that it was the same bird, which bones are made to these charms to bless travellers. Only the opening sequence may have revealed it a bit.

And I agree it wouldn't wonder me if it really was Sagums bird.
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Great series, but that was rather anticlimactic.

Also, lol @ all eight attacking the La Lunga to no avail.... then realizing while fighting the horde "oh, if we stab it in the face it will die."
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Fionartan said:
lol, I thought that was weird too... he was talking to it like a proud mama.... not to mention the labor pains. XD


Lol yeah... a bit weird.

That said, beautiful episode. When the nahji came around, it just... fit. Everything clicked together at that moment.

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Also, lol @ all eight attacking the La Lunga to no avail.... then realizing while fighting the horde "oh, if we stab it in the face it will die."


Haha XD
Jul 15, 2010 10:38 AM
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So...That's how males give birth? O.o
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Jul 17, 2010 6:39 AM

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Amazing episode!!

I actually think I liked this part better in the anime, than in the novel.

The insert song was just perfect, it really brought out the intensity of what was happening.

It's easy to forget just how important to the world, this all was.

The extracting scenes was magical!

When Balsa ran an threw the egg into the air, and the the Naji grabbing it was so epic!!

Now, I can finally read the second novel. I wanted to wait until I watched the anime before I read it.

But, I may have to go back and re-read the first novel before I do.

Urahara Out!!
Aug 3, 2010 9:23 AM

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Chagum doesn't only hold the egg but other being as well.

The battle between the horde's of La lunga was great, but I wish the Elite force of the emperor would be part of the battle

Extracting the egg was like CS method hehe,

The Nahji looks like the pet of Prince Sagum..

8mins left till my DL for ep 26 finishes, damn I'm still in intense mode
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Sep 8, 2010 12:20 PM

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Wow, so it looks like I'm in the minority when I express little more than dissapointment at this episode, which I found to be an underwhelming experience to say the least. In terms of its degree of excitement, or its emotional impact, the episode falls bellow many other episodes earlier in the series (episode 3 and episode 21 jump to mind). The production values that were so apparent much earlier in the series appeared to have jumped ship in this episode, as the fight scenes were poorly rendered and boasted an obviously low frame-rate. Much of my dislike for the animation this episode may stem from the way the claw monsters were animated - they were far too lacking in detail department to appear either threatening, or even look like a believable living creature. IG's use of CG in this show has been (thankfully) restrained to subtle touches to background animation, but when it was used for these creatures it came off looking very poor. The background art in this episode was less remarkable than it has frequently been in the past.

Actually... I found this episode a little bit underwhelming as well. Somehow, I expected a lot more... I don't know what exactly, but it just felt like there was this huge and spectacular build up to something that couldn't match the extremely high standards of previous episodes.

I still liked the episode, no doubt about that. I still think this is a truly wonderful series. I enjoyed it. But it still felt like it was missing something.

(Um... Chagum "giving birth" to the egg was plain weird, sorry. And then talking to it like a baby. DX'' Anyway...)

Still looking forward to the next episode... XD Too bad it seems like Chagum won't be living in some secluded place with Balsa and Tanda, as Tanda proposed to Balsa a couple of episodes ago. Ohhh well... His strong sense of duty is admirable. I suppose.
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I thought it was funny when he gave birth, he sounds like a mother. Anyways, I feel sorry for that bear...
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I thought it was funny when he gave birth, he sounds like a mother. Anyways, I feel sorry for that bear...


yeah the poor bear, I hope nobody dies in the last episode
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You know, first time watching I didn't think much about how awkward the birth scene was. After reading reviews and visiting forums, watching the scene again it did feel pretty awkward. Ha, I'm glad I never read reviews before watching something.

Beautiful how the story was wrapped up. Sighed when Chagum was tearing after his baby was taken away (yes, the water spirit is officially his baby.)

I agree that the animation could've been better, they've DONE better, made me wonder as well. Usually you can see the emotion and gestures the characters have whenever they speak, but for this one episode the most epic moment was only when Balsa was throwing the egg to the nahji (yes, please, make it Sagum's nahji. I'm really that fool of a romanticist.)

Huff. Father mother and child altogether. This is just too nostalgic.
Jan 7, 2011 1:03 PM

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Great episode! But Chagum giving birth was rather disturbing XD
And i think the bird was the one that Sagum had :O
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Anyway, a LOT of symbolism in this episode. Especially the "birth" scene, which is a rite of passage for Chagum into adulthood (kind of similar to some tribe where girls must give birth before attaining the rank of women) It is also noticeable how the three "family" members, Balsa, Tanda and Chagum assisted the birth of the egg...

Not to mention that there were eight nahji ;)

Loved it, can't wait for the last episode!
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Also I had no idea that the nahji was the species of the bird that Sagum was taking care of! Did they tell us that before or was it never revealed?

I don't think they stated that. But I called it anyway right when the first mention of a nahji bird took place 8D nyah nyah.
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That entire scene with Nahji no Uta playing in the background. Just beautiful.
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Looks like the boy experienced the pain of pregnancy.
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Beautiful. I'm watching the serie for the third time (I watch it every year in the summer).

Yeah, the Nahji that took the egg was surely Sagum's. If you think back at the flashback when they were little and took the nahji at the palace, and if you also think at Sagum's death, when he let the nahji go, this scene in the 25th episode becomes way more touching.
It's like the bird being grateful for the brothers taking care of it, and also it's like Sagum is still there to take care of his little brother.
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I thought it was funny when he gave birth, he sounds like a mother. Anyways, I feel sorry for that bear...


Ohhh, if the nahji was the one he took in I would love that!

Splendid episode.

Edit: 2016 watch. Yeah I recall the ending being a bit underwhelming, story-wise. But I think the bond of Balsa and Chagum is more of my focus.
Even when they were... extracting the egg, that was a family moment right there. :)
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Loved this episode. The music just really fitted what was happening.
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Wow, that poor bear.

One more episode left!
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I wonder why Tanda asked Balsa to take out the egg? Could he not have done it himself? Poor Chagum in pain when they were extracting the egg out. I like how much Chagum cared for the egg. That last part where Balsa through the egg up in the air was amazing, like a huge sense of accomplishment and burden had just lifted. Like many people stated, the Nahji that came back and took the egg reminded me of the same one that Sagum freed. I would like to think that they are the same one. It would be kind of like the circle of life (as cheesy as that may sound), Sagum's death, and the birth of the water spirit. Oh and the part where Chagum hugs Balsa, saying that he trusted that Balsa would come, that was really touching ;_;
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Looked like he was giving birth that episode, even was all weakened but wanted to see his baby at the end of it all. Anyways this episode somewhat was slightly disappointing, feel it could have been better, however still looking forward to the last episode.
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MaxCrazy7 said:
I think the bird who took the egg is the one Sagam freed before dying.

I thought of the same thing

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Fionartan said:
lol, I thought that was weird too... he was talking to it like a proud mama.... not to mention the labor pains. XD

and this haha
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A Teenage Boy Giving Birth, First time Seeing Something like That, Well Something like That Can Happen Only In Anime LOL
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Great soundtrack. The birthing process went well. I thought there would be at least one tragic death.
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12 year old boys giving birth is a fetish of mine, it makes me happy to see it in a TV show made for children. never did I think we would progress so much as a society.
if anyone can recommend me any other anime with little pregnant boys, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Looks like everything went well, but there's still the final episode and those three archers.
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So Chagum was able to give birth to a healthy glowing,blue Nyunga Ro Chaga egg without La Runga ripping him apart.What a champ, holding it down and persevering through those terrible labour pains.It was a pity Tanda and Balsa didn't let him at least embrace the product of his labour before the Nahji came to carry it away.None the less,a lovely epsiode.Nobody died,water spirit survived so no drought and the appropriate heir to the Yogo empire will succeed his father.
Such a shame that Balsa and Chagum will be parted but i suppose she has fulfilled her promise to Chagum and her vow to Jiguro.I hope she tries to take it easy after this,maybe even start working with Tanda on making some little Tandas and Balsas of their own.She seems like she's ready to be a mom and I'm sure Tanda would be a great dad to their future kids.
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I thought it was funny when he gave birth, he sounds like a mother.
Lol I suppose it's due to him carrying the egg inside of him for a good while now and it seems that he was able to communicate with it so maybe in a sense he shared a bond of some kind with it.
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I wonder what was the point of summoning those three archers earlier and if they will serve any purpose. I doubt it assuming that next episode will be a closing episode.

The fight against the Rarunga got pretty stale. The CG all over the place didn't help either though it's expected when there's so much shit on screen to animate.

Balsa and Tanda extracting that water spirit from Chagum was a nice metaphor for labor. Heh.

I found it funny how Shuga tried to help the others but failed because he was unable to see Nayug.

Not the best climax but it was pretty good.

7.5/10 Last episode is probably going to be pretty slow-paced so I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking.

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Congratulations, Chagum, you're now a mommy!
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Wow the ending with the children's song was great(I always love those ;P)
So the journey is almost over...
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I think the bird who took the egg is the one Sagam freed before dying.
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Congrats Chagum!!

The show is really all about being an adult and especially the hardships of parenthood huh?

The birthing scene was really awkward but at the same time it looked beautiful.

Poor bear. Was it a dog or a bear? The one that was eaten by the la lunga?
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Err well that was a vaguely easy extraction, not sure how they did it. It was awkward since it looked like a boy was giving birth.

Other than that -- it was pretty cool that Prince Sagum's nahji (?) was the one that took the egg.

Happy end to the climax, glad to see no one died.
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Great episode. That was one heck of a battle.

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Looks like the boy experienced the pain of pregnancy.

Was thinking the same thing xD

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MaxCrazy7 said:
I think the bird who took the egg is the one Sagam freed before dying.

I believe so as well.
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In the beginning of the episode Tanda said he had to put a spell on the flowers for warriors to be able to use them, but then...did nothing...

Underwhelming honestly, but from the last few episodes I'm not surprised. The beginning of this series was clearly it's best and I felt it gradually becoming less interesting.

Hopefully there'll be a good final episode.
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