Otakus VS anime fans which of us are in the majority?

DateYutaka said:


after the novel and Dorama Densha otoko [ the train man in 2004-05 [ it got made in to two manga after the drama] the pubic view of otaku changed abit in Japan
for example Last time i went to T I A F there was alot of people there who were not in there element in same with hell this year Comiket

comiket is was very much hardcore only pre DO days now its bigger and better cause Casual go too ones who say pre 2006 would have never been near the big site on con day

mariosgrp said:
i just scanned the thread checking answers and profiles
the conclusion was this:

most of the people that claim to not being an otaku ARE AN OTAKU but simply deny it.


you can not possibly not be an otaku when you have 150+ days of anime watched.
most of the people that voted anime fans are "tsundere" otaku's

btw, in this reply im using the word otaku as it was explained in the first message.

wukp said:
Why should I find word Otaku offensive when I dedicated my life to animes and I am not ashamed to admit it?

3nvy said:

This guy is either a pathetic retard or a troll. Or both. I'm going with both.

wukp said:


This indeed could be the case, and I thought that something is wrong with pool results.

3nvy said:

This guy is either a pathetic retard or a troll. Or both. I'm going with both.

wukp said:


So I am a pathetic retard because I find something that I am passion t about and I want to dedicate my life to it?

Ragix said:


You're being far too optimistic with the term 'Otaku'.
Yes, they give anime(It's anime not 'animes') high priority in there life, but to an extreme. They can spend hundreds to thousands of dollars in the hobby easy and even go as far as giving up other important parts of their lives up in order for the 'hobby' or at this point obsession.

Just because people watch or read a lot of manga/anime doesn't make them an otaku. We don't have to call ourselves that just because we enjoy it more then the other guy and a lot of the things people have read/watched are accumulated over years and years and keep in mind do have lives. For example, I may not have as many days of manga/anime added up compared to others(Although I never update watching/reading until completion), but I do watch and read more then your average Joe, but keep my hobby in check, as I'm in college, work and keep my social life intact all while enjoying these things and even putting some money into it.


Like I said earlier though, people love to label themselves, so if you want to label yourself an Otaku feel free to, but as you can see, most of us here on MAL don't even consider ourselves Otaku and even gag at the thought of them, along with weeaboos.


And before DateYutaka or anyone else tries to barge in and tell me otherwise, I'm referring to how the term 'Otaku' is being used by people in the States among other countries, not Japan.

DateYutaka said:

it sould not be used in the west at all cuase they have no idea what it means cause of the fact its an word in this context that has no Translation and as a Trem it means more than Just for anime

Negative-Travis said:

Since you've essentially dedicated your life to consuming, yes.
Yes you are.

Ragix said:


I agree, when I first got into anime I did not know that the term "otaku" held much meaning aside from really liking anime, but that's thanks to how the West took that word and twisted it to mean something different. Unfortunately, most people who use the word in the West have no idea what it actually means in Japan and how it can be used for different things aside from anime, like you said so yourself.





You had me up until you said 'dedicate your life'. Nothing wrong with having a passion for your hobby, but to dedicate your life for it is pretty fucking silly. Do you know what? Go ahead, call yourself an otaku, I think you deserve the title.

As you can see though even a lot of us 'anime fans' don't think too fond of 'Otakus' or 'weeaboos'.

DateYutaka said:

Otaku does not have an S its like putting an s for animes itrs wrong

DateYutaka said:

Otaku does not have an S its like putting an s for animes itrs wrong

Ragix said:


That's another thing that some people don't get which I was pointing out.
Even in the original post the guy calls anime, 'animes' and otaku 'otakus', etc.
Which is why I put quotations around the words.

Negative-Travis said:

So's putting an R in "it's".

This has been done to death, everybody in this thread should already know better.

geek
/gēk/
Noun
1. An unfashionable or socially inept person.
2. A person with an eccentric devotion to a particular interest: "a computer geek".

Ghostony said:
Otaku is just japanese for geek

DateYutaka said:

in te west do you get idol geeks

Negative-Travis said:

So's putting an R in "it's".

This has been done to death, everybody in this thread should already know better.

Negative-Travis said:
People who dedicate themselves to following celebrities?

You bet.

jal90 said:
Mangas, animes, otakus

God damn, this is reaching the level of obsession. Can't people accept that in a casual forum certain grammar rules aren't even supposed to be applied with such academic accuracy?

jal90 said:
Mangas, animes, otakus

God damn, this is reaching the level of obsession. Can't people accept that in a casual forum certain grammar rules aren't even supposed to be applied with such academic accuracy?

Kezone said:
What's the dividing line?

Kezone said:
What's the dividing line?

Negative-Travis said:
Do you have any other hobbies?

Gorim said:
I'm an anime fan and while I certainly pity weeaboos and otaku I don't really care that much it's their life.



Yes we can.

Gorim said:


I didn't think I needed to make that any more clear. Since I've watched over 150 days and I'm not an otaku wouldn't that make your argument false? You know yourself whether you're otaku or not. Well this only can be used with a person that doesn't live in selfdeception and has certain understanding what the word otaku actually means.

As someone said before being an otaku doesn't mean you love your chinese cartoons more than someone else does.

Negative-Travis said:
I love it when threads diverge to the point that grammar takes precedence over making a point.

Gorim said:
As someone said before being an otaku doesn't mean you love your chinese cartoons more than someone else does.

jal90 said:

My bad, I was just seconding your message, not answering. Sorry for the confusion.

Hope this helps on fixing it:

Negative-Travis said:
Do you have any other hobbies?

TehBlindSamurai said:


Question! Does masturbation count as a hobby?

Negative-Travis said:

No.

wukp said:


Actually yes it does if you love something in that measure that you nearly worship it you definitely love it more than someone who just like that same thing but only as a fun hobby. You prove my theory when you called animals Chinese cartoons.

Battlechili1 said:
In the west "otaku" is often used to describe people who are anime fans.

Durbikins said:
Otaku represent! #swag

yhunata said:


I don't think anyone here is calling animals "Chinese cartoons".